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We Have To Do Something, Or Ni No Kuni Will Get Overlooked

Fellow role-playing fans, we must come together in this time of need, in the face of a potential injustice.

Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch launches in North America on January 22 and I've just realized that it's in a perfect position to be lost into the black abyss of nothingness.

Not only has the popular RPG trend focused squarely on Western trends and styles this generation (due in part to a decline in general quality of my beloved Japanese RPGs), but the timing for Level-5's latest could be problematic. It's always tough to make a sale in January; the post-holiday doldrums hit just about everyone who goes nuts with the spending during the Christmas months. On top of which, the competition may be a whole lot stiffer than we thought.

The Devil May Cry reboot comes out the week before, and that's hardly the only big title hitting in the first quarter of 2013. Bioshock Infinite and Tomb Raider are also slated to drop during the first three months, along with a host of other promising titles, most all of which are primed to appeal to a wider audience than Ni no Kuni. Worse, high review scores probably won't save it, as it's still only catering to that niche demographic, which seems to be getting smaller with every passing year.

Then again, maybe that's a good thing...maybe the small, loyal JRPG fan base will save it, if only because it's the only title they really want during that three-month span. How often do we even see anything like Wrath of the White Witch anymore? So that's a good thought. But I still think everyone should just band together and make fan sites, yell it from the rooftops, and in general, just make anybody who's even remotely interested aware that Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch launches on January 22. Don't forget, damnit.

Related Game(s): Ni no Kuni: Wrath of the White Witch

Tags: ni no kuni wrath of the white witch, ni no kuni, rpgs, role playing games, rpg gamers

8/12/2012 9:15:24 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (68 posts)

cLoudou
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 9:40:53 PM
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I don't really care as long as I get to enjoy it. It won't make the game any more or less enjoyable by the amount of people playing it.

Of course that's just me, but I'm sure Level-5 would appreciate the push for sales. JRPG fans would also like this game to do well so other devs can take notice and create more for the genre.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:09:17 PM

Well if you want to see more games like it I think you should care about the final sales. Lets be honest, the RPG genre has been abysmal this generation of gaming.

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cLoudou
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 11:03:26 PM

I agree I should care but I don't. All I can do is my part by buying the game.

Also agree that the genre has been disappointing that is why this gen has been such a disappointment to me despite the amount of great games. Not enough in the JRPG department.

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chilker
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 9:55:06 PM
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I am so excited about this game. For financial reasons, I generally wait until the games I want have dropped in price, but I just might have to get this one on its release date. It's just such brilliant team-up!
I wish that more people would get excited about such things so that more top-notch JRPGS would get made and released State-side. I'll definitely be letting more people know about it!

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DazeOfWar
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:02:13 PM
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All I can say is I'm buying it.

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Rogueagent01
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:07:28 PM
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I can't wait for the game myself but I won't lie the name is what has given me reservations about it. I hate the name Ni No Kuni, I wish they would just drop that part and use the "Wrath of the White Witch" part stateside. I have talked to a bunch of people and many of them think the same, they have heard the name and said I am not interested. Then after they seen the videos they changed their minds and said that looks interesting.

I know most RPG fans could care less about the name, but it is the rest of the gaming market we are talking about here and they are the ones that seem to look right past it because of something as simple as the name, I even did at first and I love RPGs.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:25:24 PM

It is a weird name, it's nice to have the original title so there's no clear pandering but I prefer more traditional JRPG names that tend to be filled with wonder themselves.

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Lawless SXE
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 4:13:30 AM

Maybe if they translated the Ni No Kuni part of the title as they did with the subtitle. On the other hand, The Another Land just seems grammatically incorrect, and I for one would raise an eyebrow and be more willing to pass on it if that were the case.

I just think that Ni No Kuni is simply an integral part of the title, considering that it is the realm in which most of the game takes place. Wrath of the White Witch just sounds generic and boring.

I do get where you're coming from though. Ni No Kuni isn't really a name that the mainstream audience would be able to attach themselves to. It's a pretty unique situation in my mind.

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Rogueagent01
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 1:11:00 AM

Yeah I only had an issue with the name when I didn't know anything about the game i.e screenshots/videos. I changed my mind really fast once I seen it.

If that is the correct translation then dropping the "The" would make it a good western title in my opinion " Another Land: Wrath of the White Witch" actually really sounds interesting to me. And not to start a fight with the rest of the western world but generic and boring are really what seems to sell well here :)

I just hope that the rest of the gamers out there can get past the title. Me being into japanese culture is one of the reasons I didn't write it off as soon as I seen the name .

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:09:46 PM
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I'm buying it (of course) and plan on talking it up among friends in hopes they will give it a try/purchase.

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Pandacastro
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:21:02 PM
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I case any of you haven't heard, Namco Bandai is also planning to localize Toki to Towa another jrpg.
http://gematsu.com/2012/08/toki-to-towa-set-for-english-release

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bebestorm
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 10:19:42 AM

I read about that yesterday Im excited their localizing it with no begging involved. Hopefully NB will start localizing Xillia 2 when it releases in japan.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 11:29:15 AM

Thanks for that link Panda, I'm putting that on my Gamewatch list now.

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bebestorm
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:22:29 PM
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Ive already preordered the Wizard Edition! Unfortunately gamers I know aren't into rpgs.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:32:10 PM
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It will be mine, but damn I want all those games. We will see where the money hammer falls on when I get each of them Infinite must be day 1 but DmC and TR can kind of wait.

Sadly I'm too old and tired to set up fan sites anymore and I can almost guarantee it will get NO publicity.

I think JRPGs have declined largely because gritty realism is finally attainable and attention spans have shrunk to zero. I'll always have hope that this genre will rise again, but here we are; we live in a strange new world of gaming where globe trotting adventures of epic proportions in creative style have fizzled right when we had the hardware to make them the best they ever could have been.

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Metal Head
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:49:07 PM
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Buying the game because I love Level 5 games. I wish they become part of the Playstation family.

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tyvinsan
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 10:58:27 PM
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With Respect, I'll do no such thing. the folks who made this game were responsible for White Knight Chronicles 2, which they ran into the ground with their uncaring attitude and lack of attention to the community.

I can only assume they will give this game the same attention they did WKC2. I would be better off passing on the game entirely.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 11:03:02 PM

...uh, Level-5 has done other things.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, August 12, 2012 @ 11:50:54 PM

I don't think Ni No Kuni will have online, so be calm.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 2:52:58 AM

Have you seen Ni No Kuni, it looks and plays nothing like White Knight Chronicles, don't disregard it so easily.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 8:37:30 AM

So you're going to base your opinion of a future game (that's already received great reviews) on one game that you didn't care for made by a company that's already made over a dozen excellent games.


Smart!

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Beamboom
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 9:24:57 AM

I believe what he refers to is the lack of support after release (outside Japan) more than the game itself.
Highlander has expressed similar opinions.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 9:33:46 AM

So he's basing his opinion of a single player JRPG on the multiplayer portion of another JRPG...

Smarter!

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Beamboom
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 9:51:38 AM

It's the developer/distributor and not the games they bash.

But hey, I'm backing out of this discussion now. Slowly, carefully. ;)


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Jawknee
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 10:58:07 AM

Level 5 is also responsible for Dragon Quest VIII. One of the best JRPG's of last gen.

Lol, your comment is full of fail.

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xenris
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 11:12:02 AM

Dragon Quest 8 is my top JRPG of all time, Dark Cloud games were good too. Level 5 is responsible for some of the best JRPGs in the last little while.

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Temjin001
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 2:09:40 PM

hehe THUMBS DOWN for you mr. T
=)

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 12:12:10 AM

Spot on Beamboom. It's not the games it's the developer AND publisher. D3 is Namco. D3 published WKC2 in the US/NA market. L5 is the developer of both. Neither company has show much regard at all for their paying customers with WHKC2, so why in hell would anyone want to support them in the future. The publisher and developer have show through both their conduct and their attitude towards their paying customers that they do not give a crap about paying customers. Pretty bloody stupid considering JRPGs are such a niche interest.

Regardless of their past glory, Level 5 and their publishing partners have not covered themselves with glory recently. They completely screwed over their NA and EU based customers when compared to those in Japan. It's not about whether L5 is a good developer, or whether their games are any good, it's about the after sales service.

Why should I or anyone give L5 or Namco a 'pass' based on previous performance? Square Enix is responsible for some awesome games in the past as well, I don't see anyone giving them a ffree pass today because FFVIII was so freaking good.

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Ludakriss
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 4:19:02 AM

Sorry, HighLander but, a dead argument you have.

Yeah partly may apply because of the shit concept we now call, DLC. But if we are to see that WKC was a single player campaign then you've very little to complain about.

Well, other than a game being poo. That being, your opinion by the way.

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Highlander
Wednesday, August 15, 2012 @ 12:48:31 PM

Not sure what you're saying Ludakriss, but it sounds like you're basically telling me I'm talking shit. Ironically the point about WKC2 is regarding the publisher and developer support for the multi-player elements of the game. Which you appear to be dismissing. Referring to the game as poo doesn't help you BTW.

Ni No Kuni might be single player, but continuing support by the developer and publisher in the form of DLC and pacthes is still an important element of a game today. based on my experience with both L5 and Namco as a partnership, they simply don't care unless you live in Japan. That's an issue, no matter how much you try to tell me it's not.

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ZettaiSeigi
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 12:41:50 AM
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Between Ni no Kuni and the new DMC installment, the former will have my money and my recommendation. I sure hope all RPG fans would buy their copy of the game once it comes out. This at least doesn't have its story written with DLCs so we need not wait for a GOTY version.

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Snaaaake
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 12:43:24 AM
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I think the reason is that there's nothing special or something that made it stood out as an JRPG.
Yes the graphic is slick and nice, yes Level-5 is awesome but that's it.
Besides, after WKC and WKC2, most who never played the game but looked at the score would go "This is the same team that made WKC? LAME!!"

It's sad, but it's reality.

I for one ain't getting this day one or anytime soon after release but I will get this eventually.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 1:11:32 AM

Whaddaya mean? It's got Studio Ghibli on board. That should at least attract some anime fans.

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Snaaaake
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 2:36:45 AM

Well I fail to see how Studio Ghibli can affect the sales that much.
Not hating for the game but that's how I see it.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 2:56:18 AM

Studio Ghibli is essentially the Japanese Disney (Just not always so child-friendly) - it is massive! and look how people responded to Kingdom Hearts or Dragon Quest which has the artist from Dragon Ball Z attached to the project. I think having Studio Ghibli will definitely boost sales and I can see why the art direction looks gorgeous.

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 12:16:17 AM

Agreed Snake, Ghibli being involved might have some cache in Japan, but very little outside of Japan. If anything there are more fans of something like Idolm@ster than specifically for Ghibli. But you don't see a localized Idolm@ster game here do you?

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 3:13:07 AM
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I can certainly share the sense of urgency on the success of No Ni Kuni, the JRPG market has vanished this gen. Something which I think is just a damn shame. I look at my library of PS2 games, at least 20% of them are JRPG's. on my PS3 shelf I have barely 5. Most not even close to the quality of the PS2 titles.

I know I'll be buying this day one, It looks just the kind of game we've all been waiting for. It seems to have a similar world map system to Dragon Quest IX (A detailed world map with creatures that run into you for a battle transition.) which I love! the battle system seems like Pokemon, but more active. I might be going to expogamer (a UK gaming festival) which has this title available to play it'll definitely be one of the highlights of the day.

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Lawless SXE
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 4:20:48 AM
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I do agree that more attention should be being paid to Ni No Kuni. It just seems like such a unique title, and really does seem to hark back to the glory days of the RPG that it absolutely deserves to be rewarded. The art style is gorgeous and, for what it's worth, I enjoyed what I've played of WKC2 thus far, so I'm more than willing to take a look at anything new from Level-5.

My problem is that I can't support it. If I could, you'd better believe that I'd be picking it up as soon as possible after it's release, but it comes out the day after I'm all set to pack up my car and go trundling about the country. A real shame, I must say but I guess I'll have to be content with DmC the week prior.

That being said, I'll do what I can to spread the word (may not be much, but at least it's an effort).

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Aerifale
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 6:43:25 AM
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Yeah I'm pretty much buying this one for the studio Ghibli art style. Sooooo Pwwwety 0_0

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Lotusflow3r
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 7:19:18 AM
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Can't say i disagree.

I thought the same about DQVlll and lX, though and they sold extremely well. What Ni No Kuni needs is strong promotion like the former games received.

I think it'll be bigger than expectations due to word of mouth and reviews.

We'll just have to wait and see, but as most know, i'm already doing what i can.

Last thing to note, L5 have already said that they intend to turn Ni No Kuni into a franchise, but low international sales could hinder that idea.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 9:43:39 AM

At least people have heard of Dragon Quest.

"Ni no Kuni" just sounds SO Japanese, and in a market that doesn't seem to care much about Japanese products anymore...

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 12:25:21 PM

I can certainly see why the name comes across as unappealing here. One of my big concerns for it too.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 6:40:52 PM

I have to say it in my head like 3 times until I get it right..

"No Kunini", "new nokuni", etc. :P

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cadpig
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 8:01:00 AM
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All i can do is buy the game and show it to my friends. I know it's a niche market, but i think it's up to Sony to push and advertise the game.

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xenris
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 8:31:38 AM
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I'm buying the collectors edition to get that awesome looking book. So I am doing my part by essentially buying the game twice :P

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 8:39:29 AM
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Anyone that bashes this game or the point Ben's trying to make should just stick with their WRPGs and continue to enjoy the erosion of the RPG genre.

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gumbi
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 9:31:26 AM
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I resolved to buy this game the moment I learned it was in production. A JRPG with Studio Ghibli art direction? SOLD!

Yes, I'm excited for Tomb Raider and DMC, but they'll be taking a back seat to Ni no Kuni.

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Looking Glass
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 9:50:10 AM
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The game might not be in as much trouble as one may think. Studio Ghibli does have a significant number of fans in the west.

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Temjin001
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 10:48:21 AM
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I've liked the look of this since early shots surfaced some many months ago. I hope it is well received.

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Jawknee
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 10:58:20 AM
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Already preordered my copy.

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xenris
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 11:12:57 AM

You getting the collectors? I really got excited when they announced the hardcover book with it.

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Jawknee
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 12:11:21 PM

No, I was going too but I splurged on too many collectors editions last year already. I'm tempted to change my order though. :)

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Temjin001
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 12:16:57 PM

just cancel your Wii U reserve Jawknee and everything will be alight ;)

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xenris
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 4:16:47 PM

DOOOOO it. You know you want that 300 page hard bound book and plushie :P

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Jawknee
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 7:08:49 PM

@Temji, Not.A.Chance. haha

@Xenris, ugh, k I'll do it. Haha

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xenris
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 8:03:03 PM

Whooooo! It was the plushie that pushed you over wasn't it ;)

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Thinker
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 11:17:36 AM
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A couple of months back, I already pre-ordered the Collector's Edition from the Namco Bandai website :)

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tyvinsan
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 7:21:54 PM
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In regard to some of the posts above, maybe L5 does have a lot of first rate games. If so, I didn't play any of them, I played WKC 2 and was dissapointed in their lack of effort and overall interest in the community.

Its not just the lack of dlc content, its their lack attention being given to the boards, its more or less lawless territory, or was the last time I checked. (imagine any 13 yr old being allowed to make rape jokes/threats..that's how bad it is).

There is a lot of bugs with WKC 2 that haven't been cleared up with patches. I expect to see similar things with this game. There was no effort to release any kind of patch to fix anything that was broken since its release.

The impression most of us got from the WKC 2 community is that L5 was mostly concerned with their japanese customers, and america/europe was mostly an afterthought. I look at the title 'ni no kuni' and can't help but notice its going to be the same thing over again.

Again, L5 may have released a ton of good games. This was the first one I bought, and it was bad, and I formed my opinion based on that experience. I seriously doubt that most of you buy a game from a developer and say 'wow that was awful, I think i'll buy 4 or 5 more games though..just to be sure'.

I like studio ghibli alot, and I would be upset to play a game featuring their art, just to have the game suck.

6 months after release, and a ton of stellar reviews, sure i might give L5 another try. But studio Ghibli's contributions is not enough to make me look past my previous experience with this developer.

Sorry for long post, wanted to clarify my position a bit and explain why I stated what I did and not just seem like a dude spamming hate posts.


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xenris
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 8:05:53 PM

Publisher has a lot to do with this sort of stuff too. I don't think Ni No Kuni will need the patching that WKC2 needed because its not online. It is a lot harder to patch for a console game than it is for say the PC. So there might be issues going on there with Sony and Namco.

I have also heard/seen really good things from people who played the japanese version, although I promptly stopped watching as I didn't watch spoilers.

Look up japanese videos on it and see if its your style.

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 12:13:20 AM

Xenris, you are either missing or ignoring the point of the post.

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xenris
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 9:03:15 AM

I don't get what I'm overlooking. WKC2 didn't get support it deserved in NA, but that was only for the Multiplayer portion. He is basing his opinions of this purely single player game on the lack of patches for an MMO light experience in WKC2. I get why he is upset about WKC2, but how are they going to screw their customers with Ni No Kuni?

I just see them as different games. Not to mention WKC2 sold poorly so maybe it wasn't financially viable for them to support it over here?

I'm not defending them not patching the game, but I beat WKC1 and played a decent amount of WKC2 with a friend, only single player and had no problems with it. Meaning I didn't encounter anything game breaking...I mean other than design issues like Greatswords being almost useless compared to Axes.

Explain the point of his post because all I got from it was, I had one bad experience with a game and wont buy another game by them that is completely different than the game that I had a bad experience with.

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Highlander
Wednesday, August 15, 2012 @ 12:43:19 PM

You are missing the point either intentionally or through ignorance. WKC2 outside japan sold very nearly as well as WKC2 in Japan, so the BS about not selling well enough doesn't quite fly. The viability of supporting the game in the West is more or less identical to the viability in Japan. Actually in the west, it might be even more viable since the costs are more limited here since the development work on the additional elements was already done ,all that remains is simple translation work on the text involved.

Your condescending or patronizing words about it being MMO lite and the rest are just annoying and insulting to anyone that likes the game. actually the tone of your entire post is.

Just because you have no interest in the multi-player element of WKC2 does not make it any less compelling for those that do. One bad experience out of how many games this generation from L5? Support for WKC1 was patchy at best and support for WKC2 has been quite poor overall. You don't see that, but then you don't play the game online at all, so how would you?

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homura
Monday, August 13, 2012 @ 8:29:45 PM
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I will buy it brand new.

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 12:21:45 AM
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Ben, before you jump on my post, please read it. You have fairly reviewed WKC2 and WKC in the past, I know you will do the same for this game. But the comments that people have made regarding L5 and D3(wholly owned by Namco) and their terrible post sales support ignore the point. Honestly I am disappointed that someone in position to report news and dig at things glosses over something like the bloody awful post sales support that WKC2 has received. I'm not suggesting that you should somehow be aware of the problem or investigate, but I am disappointed that you effectively dismiss it as an issue.

Level 5 and D3/Namco have show that they simply do not give a crap about customers outside Japan. D3 acts like they regret even publishing WKC2, and L5 acts like the versions outside Japan are simply not even worth their consideration (and that is the *most* polite way I could but that). Just a question, but would that not constitute a decent news story?

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xenris
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 9:05:20 AM

Did you ever think they dont care because it sold like garbage? I'm not saying that gives them a right but maybe that is part of their motive behind it.

You also keep mentioning WKC2, why did one game make you hate this company so much? It sounds like they murdered a family pet of yours. Further more do you buy Bioware games? Because what EA and Bioware do seems far worse to me than WKC2 not getting some patches. Just my two cents.

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Highlander
Wednesday, August 15, 2012 @ 12:35:53 PM

Xenris, I mean really? Sold like garbage? Tell you what go look at the sales of all JRPG franchises this generation on PS3, outside of FFXIII, guess what the best selling franchise is? The point isn't whether the game could have sold better, or been reviewed better, the point is that they are treating those that did fork out money on the game like second class citizens if they don't live in Japan. The sales numbers for the game outside Japan nearly match those in Japan, so it sure seems like they could have done more.

I keep mentioning WKC2 because that game was published by Namco (D3) and developed by L5, just like Ni No Kuni. Since that due has treated customers poorly on their last venture, why should I trust them on this new one? But hey, whatever let's try this another way, let's say you like eating cheese burgers and you buy what was supposed to be a great burger from a place. Let's say that this place serves up a cold burger with no cheese to you and your friends, while the same franchise food place elsewhere is serving up perfect, fresh cheese burgers with extra toppings. When you ask your local place, they say "Those toppings are only intended for that other branch, you get nothing." How likely are you to continue buying cheese burgers from that food joint? Not at all right? So why would I continue buying games developed by L5 and published by Namco when they'd done exactly that to all the western consumers that paid good money for WKC2?

Apart from anything else, if you want to make me defensive, you're doing a damned good job of it. Why am I so annoyed, Oh, I don't know... Maybe it's because my favorite game of this console generation comes with a total lack of publisher commitment or support from the developer?

If you're so concerned about sales you should start buying only Activision games, I hear that's their sole performance criteria.



Last edited by Highlander on 8/15/2012 12:38:32 PM

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Highlander
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 12:23:40 AM
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This was a day 1 purchase, it's no longer on any purchase list what so ever. If Level 5 and their partners finally see the light, and treat their customers like customers instead of annoying ticks I might reconsider. But until that time, this game gets firmly burried under a stack of other games.

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Ludakriss
Tuesday, August 14, 2012 @ 4:15:45 AM
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All this...

I'm exhausted by shit creativity from the people who now fear innovation because of non-compensation. NOT, talkiin bout Lvl5. Just people.

Fair, but shit.

So I am buying the game but you may expect no adverts from me.

Peace!

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