Could Late PS3 Games Compete Visually With Xbox 720 Titles?
The Last Of UsStraddling game generations is always interesting from a software standpoint.
For example, let's say for the sake of argument that the Xbox 720 comes out well before the PlayStation 4 (which at this point doesn't seem out of the realm of possibility). Might it be possible that late-generation PS3 titles will compete graphically with the new Xbox games?
Of course, we have no idea how powerful Microsoft's new machine might be, so this question could be absurd. But for the time being, I think it's quite obvious that the PS3 is head-and-shoulders above the 360 in terms of exhibited graphics potential. Nothing on the 360 (and I've played the best that system has to offer) can even come close to competing with the last two Uncharteds, for instance, and I think games like God of War III and Heavy Rain have helped set the current generation bar as well. I think that's a given.
And in the future, we have the amazing-looking God of War: Ascension, Beyond: Two Souls, and The Last Of Us, the latter of which easily blows away anything on the 360 at this point. Then we might see more impressive graphical productions in other PS3 exclusives like Killzone 4, Gran Turismo 6, and Metal Gear Solid 5. All of that is only speculation, of course, but if they all came out for the PS3 when the Xbox 720 was on store shelves...I mean, would it be totally out of bounds to make the comparison? Or will the new Xbox just be that much more powerful than the PS3?
Let's not forget that late-gen PS2 games made launch titles for that system look like crap; Final Fantasy XII, Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater and God of War II were damn impressive; I often wonder how much more developers could've gotten out of the PS2...
Tags: ps3, playstation 3, new xbox, xbox 720, ps3 games, next gen
8/21/2012 9:04:08 PM Ben Dutka
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 @ 11:04:46 PM
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Neo_Aeon666
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 8:10:34 AM
I do not think even the latest PS3 titles will compete with the 720 in terms of screen and texture resolution but, I am pretty sure the effects, the mood, the animation, the art direction and modelisation of key characters in games like Beyond and The Last of Us will still be on par or way superior to the first few efforts that will release on the 720. A quality production remains quality even if the competition released stronger hardware. Look at the Wii. Somehow their way *graphically underwhelming games* still get 9s and up in the graphics category lol. That is because of the art direction and how you feel when you play it.
Any1 agree?
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 8:27:48 AM
Mood, art direction and stuff like that has very little to do with technology, that's artistry. Just look at Limbo... It could have been a game played on your mobile, yet it's one of the most atmospheric games I've played in quite a while.
So from an artistic point of view there's plenty of games on the PS3 that will beat many titles that will come out for the PS4. Just like earlier generations.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 8:39:27 AM
Any 720 actual exclusives wouldn't yet be taking full advantage of the hardware. So 2+2=4.
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wiiplay
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 10:19:53 AM
However, that would greatly limit the PS3 to rendering a single area of the game at next gen quality, which would, in turn, greatly reduce the graphical detail to the other in-game objects, most specifically the textures that the game uses.
So, even though the PS3 is capable of matching next generation quality graphics, developers would be required to focus on one specific detail of the game, in one specific rendering area, thus reducing the graphical balance. In the end, applying next generation graphics to a current generation machine is, although technically possible in certain areas of development, no way a wise developmental decision, and would result in reduced detail to other aspects of the game, such as the game worlds or character models.
However, that isn't to say that comparing current generation technologies with the next generation isn't going to be fair. Early game engines for new hardware and configurations tend to borrow heavily from last generation code, as to avoid a complete rewrite of the engine for the new hardware.
Therefore, if the developers are lazy, and not much time was put into the next generation engines, it is quite possible that the next generation graphics of early launch titles could in fact look very similar to current generation video games. Although I highly doubt Microsoft would allow this kind of lazy design, especially not for a brand new next generation console, the possibility is still, technically, there.
Anyways, good article Ben. I love reading about this kind of stuff. :)
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:24:42 PM
It's like me claiming that my drawings are photo realistic just because I'm good at drawing realistic eyebrows. That doesn't make my entire drawing equal to a photograph.
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wiiplay
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 2:56:12 PM
Producing realistic next-gen quality character models that are 'true to life' would take up a large amount of the processing capabilities of the PlayStation 3, therefore, it would only be able to render certain elements at a time without any kind of serious performance problems.
So, although your eyebrow analogy is, more or less, accurate, you seemed to miss the initial point, which was, quite simply, if the PS3 were to render a certain aspect of the game at next-generation quality graphics, the other aspects of the game would have to be greatly limited, as to maintain stable performances.
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YashaZz
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 5:17:09 PM
But the fact that PS3 is the colossus of it's time would make the future 2013 releases look like next gen titles.
There is chance they will look AS GOOD as 720, if not better.
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xenris
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 5:26:07 PM
Remember how awesome the Final Fantasy Agni engine looks? That is in game real time, I saw the video where they paused, moved the camera fiddled with things etc.
If the games coming out on the 720 look even close to that then they already have the PS3 beat.
The question is, are launch titles going to be this visually impressive? I think they have to, otherwise why will people buy a new console? There has to be a selling point, and I think insane graphics is going to be part of it.
Just my two cents
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DIsmael85
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 @ 10:12:53 PM
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Temjin001
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 @ 10:35:53 PM
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x86 AMD CPU (custom Windows 8 OS)
AMD GPU
4 GB Ram
Hi capacity memory stick storage for games, similar to Vita.
No optical drive
Kinect with every box
I believe MS is looking to encroach on Nintendo's turf by bundling a Kinect with every Xbox, but leveraging the value of "family" entertainment that comes in more forms than just games, Xbox LIVE content services. I also see MS making it powerful enough to please their hardcore base.
PS4
PPC cpu
Nvidia GPU with massive CUDA cores
4GB+ of ram
Blu Ray
BD Media
I predict the PS4 will trump the next Xbox from a power stand point. I believe Sony is well aware that much of their PS3 base recognizes the PS3 as a higher powered machine, capable of more premium products. I don't think they'll let go of this ethos and will want to transition as many PS3 owners smoothly to the PS4 and continue to grow an eco-system of franchises that will promise strong returns in sales, making them less contigent on 3rd party partners.
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Ludakriss
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 8:11:33 AM
Otherwise. Machines of such power, evidently won't even come close to running the Unreal 4 Engine but, will be pretty entertaining.
I have to say though. A lot of more mature players, by the sound of it, you are one of them. They mostly make Sony sound like it's the elder brother of games, you know?
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Highlander
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 @ 10:47:04 PM
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Temjin001
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 @ 11:17:52 PM
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Kevin555
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:53:08 AM
I agree with what you say here. Most of the time launch line-ups are fairly standard anyway. I mean, both PS3 & 360 didn't have very enticing launch games at all that would justify the quick purchase & if the PS3 can capitalize on this with some end-console cycle PS3 exclusives of their own before they let their new model out of the door then that would be a very good start for them coming into the new gen.
As you say, it's a chance. & when we're seeing games like God of War Ascension, Beyond, The Last of Us & *maybe, hopefully* The Last Guardian (if it still exists) in 2013, it is a very realistic possibility that this could happen. It would be a very smart move by SONY to do this.
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 2:32:48 AM
But if the rumored architectural change is true then I don't see how that could be realistically done.
Unfortunately!
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stay3r1337
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 7:50:48 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 8:41:18 AM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 9:21:20 AM
Unless that's way beyond the learning capability of your brain.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 12:07:14 PM
Either way, here's a warning and shut up.
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Leafs25
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 @ 10:52:44 PM
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This gen wont compare to next gen in terms of graphics.
And really. just think about it. I know we all love our ps3, but to even suggest that games might look as good as compared to the 720 is 100% Fanboy. Even though we don't know the specs yet.
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Highlander
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 4:22:28 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 10:08:37 AM
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kay Oss
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 11:04:02 AM
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Kiryu
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 @ 11:02:42 PM
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Could Xbox 360 games compete aganist early PS Vita titles.
Seeing how it went.I'm sure late PS3 titles can surely outbeat early next gen games.
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Temjin001
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 @ 11:19:50 PM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 2:46:43 AM
Could x360 games compete with PS#? Obviously, yes.
Could x360 games compete against Vita titles? Uhm... Dude?
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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 10:41:55 AM
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Highlander
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 12:52:24 PM
On the other hand, the Vita, as amazing as it is doesn;t have the hardware to compete with the 360. But...it's a closer match than you think simply because the core designs in the Vita are 7 years more advanced than the 360's hardware. Quad core CPU vs tri-core CPU. 360 has higher clock, but quad arms are more efficient per clock cycle, the 360 is still faster, but not by as much as you expect. The quad core GPU in the Vita is a compeltelty different animal to that in the 360, I'm not aware of a way to compare their hardware and/or performance directly. However, each of the GPU cores in vita has multiple units on board. Much like the CPU comparison, I suspect that the 360 still has it beat, but not by as much as you think. The Vita and 360 have similar amounts of RAM, so that's a wash.
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Leafs25
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:49:06 PM
We all know the ps3 has the edge in terms of graphics, but heads and shoulders is a big over statement.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:56:39 PM
None of that has anything to do with bias. I can see. I have eyes.
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sirbob6
Tuesday, August 21, 2012 @ 11:36:14 PM
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matt99
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 3:19:41 AM
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kraygen
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 12:20:17 AM
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Even if the new specs are fantastic you have to consider that games will probably still be on dvd which means any spectacular graphics would require either pc like installs or more discs than Microsoft is willing to allow.
Plus you have to consider that most consoles launch titles aren't graphically that much better than the previous gen's late titles.
Therefore considering 360's graphics have been maxed out for years devs multi-platform games will probably play on ps3 if the 720 comes out first. As for exclusives who cares how good halo for 720 looks.
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 12:57:54 AM
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kraygen
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:41:49 PM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 3:20:17 PM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 12:45:54 AM
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But the X720 will be able to play games like Battlefield 4 and Crysis 3 in a quality the PS3 will never be able to even think about doing. That's what matters here.
I believe the latest screenshots from the next GTA was an indicator of what kind of a leap we can expect - and that even from a game who traditionally can't be a graphics showcase, due to its size. It would not surprise me the slightest if GTA5 were a launch title with the X720.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 10:09:39 AM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:30:55 PM
If we assume that the next consoles has a performance that at least has a performance that is *comparable* with high end PCs on launch day - and I really, really hope they will be - then we already know the gap between Battlefield 3 on consoles compared to the PC footage we had seen.
Now, have you seen that latest ingame video snippet from Crysis 3, with the protagonist appearing over the hill? If that is, as they claim, realtime rendered then I believe we've already seen what we can expect at the start of the next hardware cycle. I can guarantee you that Crytek are working on their engine for the next gen consoles as we speak.
Add to that the GTA5 screens who obviously are rendered on current technology and we got two examples of titles that in each their way represent the level of technology *today*. Is the PS4/X720 even in production yet?
So no, I don't think I've put too much stock in what we will see at the start for the next console generation at all! I expect Crysis 3 / GTA 5 quality to be where we begin with the AAA titles on next gen.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:55:20 PM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 3:04:21 PM
Do you think that the PS4 version of GTA5 (if there will be one, of course) will not look as good as the PC version? Or if Crysis 3 are released for the PS4, do you think it will then look and play worse than the PC version we see video from today?
If the PS4 versions looks like something that could just as well have been released on the PS3 I have to say I will be very disappointed...!
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Underdog15
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 9:18:12 PM
Some of the late PS1 stuff was way better than anything PS2 offered in it's first year. Same with PS1 and the SNES or Genesis before it. And the PS3's first year was very slow as well (although Resistance: Fall of Man seems to be an exception).
Clearly, the 720 will be a better all-around spec. system than the PS3 (At least it sure as hell better be), but I don't think it should be surprising to anyone for the better late PS3 games to look and play better than the early games of the next gen. Late XBOX games looked better than early 360 games too, ya know. Each gen seems to have an initial year FULL of "meh". PSP was the same, and the VITA is doing that too. PSP turned out to be pretty impressive for it's time, and the VITA will likely do the same.
SO far, nothing that's happened is all that surprising, and I wouldn't be surprised if that trend continued with this gen just as it has all past gens.
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Beamboom
Thursday, August 23, 2012 @ 5:34:50 AM
And please notice, I do not in any way say that what we see at first of the next generation will be anything like how the games will be on those platforms a few years later.
All I am saying is that GTA5 and Crysis 3 both shows what current hardware *today* can do. And if the next consoles are roughly based on todays technology then it should be pretty safe to assume that those mentioned titles will look like what we've seen today. And that is a *significant* improvement from the current consoles. Especially Crysis 3. That videoclip I refer to here (I posted it on the forums a while back) is simply mindblowing.
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Ultimadream
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 2:20:24 AM
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Even if XBOX does start of early, look at the PS3 now, it is a far more powerful and of course has the Blu-ray!
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matt99
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 3:24:11 AM
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___________
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 5:47:02 AM
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freaking resistance had better graphical effects than GOW2!
obviously depends on how much of a leap next gen systems are, and how much time developers get to work on the games, and also more importantly if there alien tech like usual $ony systems or more conventional.
however that said ill eat my hat if ps4 launch games look worse than ps3 late games!
especially if uncharted 4 releases as a launch title!
the last of us looks amazing, so imagine what ND could do with a new system!
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slugga_status
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 7:37:10 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 8:45:24 AM
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DIsmael85
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 9:20:34 AM
Persona 4 was one of the PS2's last rpg's and to this day I still play it because it has way more content and a better story than most of all the RPG's that have been released this gen. If Sony can keep busting out unique and awesome games, graphics will not matter much as the content and what we get from the game. This will be their saving grace until they release the inevitable PS4. Just my 2 cents.
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 9:44:07 AM
Since the X720 share architecture with the PC, it gets a head start right from the get go. The developers can continue with the experience they've already gathered during development for the PC the last years.
This is why also the X360 owners were able to enjoy software that used the hardware potential so much sooner than we could on the PS3 (something that I personally with no reservation find to be solely a Good Thing).
This is yet another good argument for using a more standardized architecture. It simply gives better software faster!
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 10:12:19 AM
We also have no idea what the 720 specs will be like. It's very possible they could go more casual; MS WOULD do that considering they want the biggest market possible.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 11:32:40 AM
And just because MS is grinding out titles as fast as they can from their minute number of internal studios won't make them graphics powerhouses.
I expect they will have an edge visually, but that doesn't mean there's no competition from the other side. We should all remember that the final big budget games on Sony hardware are always quite stunning and usually look a full generation better than the launch titles.
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Highlander
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:02:36 PM
On a broader note, MS is veering away from the PC with Windows 8. During the 360 generation, multi-platform devs had the 360 Dev kits which mirrored the more closed and proprietary Windows dev environments to a large extent, making it easier for devs to work on 360 if they had Windows experience, and easier for them to port resources back and forth. The PS3 is based on completely different and more open standards approach to APIs and Dev tools. That was part of the reason for the poor start for Ps3 multi-platform versions and the slow increase in quality.
However Windows 8 is currently looking like a drastic change in direction from Microsoft. It's heavily tablet focused, and even business users are beginning to get antsy about it. Some haven't switched to Windows 7 from XP yet, and to them Windows 8 is a completely foreign environment. However that focus on tablets (Microsoft wants to make their own) and what looks like MS trying to emulate Apple with a more closed environment in general, looks like it will orphan current PC gamers with Windows 7 and not a lot beyond - except the NextBox. The point being that there won't be developers that are heavily involved in Windows/PC games that can easily transition to the NextBox.
I'd say that the next generation of gaming will move further away from hardcore PC gaming towards casual gaming on touch devices with shovel-ware or flash based games that adopt the freemium approach of micro-transactions every time you fart. At the same time as that, there will be a more hardcore, premium gaming market based on dedicated gaming devices that will focus on traditional gamers and casual gamers alike. These next consoles will be more than capable of playing the stuff that tables can do, but the tablets will be poor substitutes for consoles with the more hardcore games.
I think that in this potential future, some of the advantage that MS had with the 360 is gone because of MS' own movement away from traditional PCs. I expect that they will use more and more bribery to obtain exclusivity in the future.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:16:39 PM
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DIsmael85
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:43:46 PM
Fast forward to today, where Blu-ray prices have leveled out and it's no longer a wallet breaking expense to own them. Best time for the console tech to advance. Sony will have to bring out PS4 to compete it's only normal. Putting down MS's first party studios for experimenting back when the 360 launched is pretty low, because if you look at them now they have advanced. If they keep the PC architect and use blu-ray as their medium and their games will look a hell of a lot better than anything out. Though like a lot of you have stated, we don't know the specs of the system we can only guess and debate from what is available via rumors and speculation. Maybe Microsoft will drop the ball really hard, but to deny the competition really won't help any game dev or anyone advance. We'll just end up with the same crap anyway.
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Beamboom
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 2:02:18 PM
But I seriously doubt they will make their X-box more casual. I think it's *much* more likely that they try to make their own tablet, "Surface", their mainstream gaming platform.
No, you should all expect the Xbox to be a formidable competitor to Sony also in the next generation.
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Highlander
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 6:02:48 PM
I'd say that the next generation of gaming will move further away from hardcore PC gaming towards casual gaming on *touch devices* with shovel-ware or flash based games that adopt the freemium approach of micro-transactions every time you fart. At the same time as that, there will be a more hardcore, premium gaming market based on *dedicated gaming devices* that will focus on traditional gamers and casual gamers alike. These next consoles will be more than capable of playing the stuff that tables can do, but the tablets will be poor substitutes for consoles with the more hardcore games.
Tablets will be the primary form factor for casual gaming, and I would include the Vita in that since it is a touch device and essentially a small tablet with game controls. Home consoles - aka the nextBox and PS4 will be more focused on games and traditional gamers than the touch devices, but that new casual gaming segment is increasingly important and both major console makers will address that market with their next console in addition to the traditional gamers.
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jimmyhandsome
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 10:02:40 AM
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1) MS would've really f***ed up (as others have said) if late gen PS3 titles look as good as Xbox 720 launch titles
2) I will be very disappointed in the next gen (at least WiiU and Xbox 720) if the launch titles for both consoles don't seperate themselves from this gen
3) I will be hesitant to even purchase a PS4 any time early in it's life, if titles that are made for both PS4 and Xbox720 look like "The Last of Us"
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Fane1024
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 10:13:37 PM
If the PS4 and 720 aren't *greatly* superior to the WiiU, then there is no next generation.
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wackazoa
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 10:45:14 AM
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But I wish this stuff would quit ! All this speculation is tiresome. Why cant Microsoft and Sony just admit the new systems are here, give us the specs, then give some date for when they are to hit the shelves. This crap where they dont confirm the existence of these systems are real, it's like they are school yard children waiting to show up the other "mean" kid.
It would be nice to know what each side is giving us so we can have true debates on which system is better (I dont really care about hardware so much as the games themselves). Dammit just let us know what we already know to be true !
And tell me when the next Killzone is coming out...... please.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 12:09:09 PM
I don't see why Sony or Microsoft should say anything if the systems are literally years away. On the other hand, if they're coming out in 6 months and we still haven't heard anything, I'd have a problem with that. But I seriously doubt that's the case.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:18:54 PM
I understand your eagerness though.
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wackazoa
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 1:41:45 PM
Plus not to mention the price increase of the system, games (if we go by precedent from the last 2 systems) and peripherals. In a bad enconomy I have to seriously save to get a next gen. (I know I dont matter much in the grand scheme) But just look at the Vita, besides what they say I dont think it has done as well as they want and its maybe half the price of a next gen system.
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Ignitus
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 3:25:44 PM
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Naughty Dog can produce that kind of games with Sony's time and money and are the exception rather than the rule. Also, the visual diferences are not that great or stunning, the diference is marginal.
The rest of the PS3 games even struggle to match the performance of the xbox 360 versions. What makes you think they can outperform the even more powerful 720, which also happens to have a better development tools and enviroment?
This is just wishfull thinking for not to say pure fanboyism.
I'm more interested in how the PS4/720 will fare relative to each other.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 7:38:42 PM
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Knightzane
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 3:44:36 PM
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Now i really don't care if im called a fanboy because when you come to a damn PS oriented website, expect to run into people who love PS over xbox. Theres a reason for that and its ridiculous that people would actually start a damn console war over the topic. I think it would. Why? well look at the damn games that are coming out for the ps3 now. When i saw GOW Ascension i thought it was a CGI cutscene until he started killing people. So to the 360 fanboys, please for the love of god go to a 360 website devoted 100% to your MS needs and allow the people who love their PS3 enjoy a simple article without having to read "The 360 is better" Its like reading a damn comment section of a youtube video.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 4:04:59 PM
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xenris
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 5:49:29 PM
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I'm not a PC elitist, but there are some PC games that when cranked look absolutely amazing, and while they don't blow the PS3 out of the water they stand well above it. The Witcher 2, Crysis 1, Metro 2033, and Battlefield 3 all look really really amazing when you can handle having them maxed out. It isn't light and day like it was going from the PS2 to the PS3 but still it is really noticeable.
I also assume the new engines will be ready by then, and if games launch using Unreal engine 4, the new cryengine, and whatever the engine is called that was powering Final Fantasy agni, well then we're going to get games that do actually blow PS3 games out of the water.
PS3 games MIGHT compete with some of the launch titles, but I think it wont be long before we start seeing ridiculous looking games built on the new engines I mentioned.
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homura
Wednesday, August 22, 2012 @ 8:23:20 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
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Tuesday, August 21, 2012 @ 9:34:18 PM