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Nobody likes Mondays. They suck. So this is a fitting editorial, wouldn't you say?

What's the one video game franchise you just detest? Which is the one that actually makes you livid just to think about? Which do you abhor with every fiber of your being, even if a little of that hate is irrational?

Yeah, I know a lot of people will say Call of Duty. But I suspect the majority of that hate stems from general principle, in that the hardcore see CoD as a representation of what the industry has become: A mainstream industry driven by the masses that will always be satisfied with the same ol' same ol'. The games themselves aren't the greatest in the world, but they hardly qualify as bad.

Me, I don't have one particular series that I can't stand. But I have to admit, I cannot abide the RTS genre. I never could. I still remember seeing Command & Conquer for the first time, and just couldn't fathom my friend's fascination. It was one of those times when you're just plain confused; you can't see how any of that is entertaining. Of course, that's entirely subjective as there are millions who swear by the likes of Age of Empires, Civilization, etc. I just never understood the appeal.

So how about you?

Tags: worst games, hated games, worst video games, gaming culture

4/28/2013 10:00:42 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (88 posts)

Rogueagent01
Sunday, April 28, 2013 @ 10:32:43 PM
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Sports! Anything related to sports. I used to be big into them back in the 90s and now I look back and can't believe I wasted the amount of time I did on them. They are the slowest moving genre in the industry even outshadowing the CoD franchise by a long shot in my opinion. I lost a lot of time to those games which could have been spent playing better games or doing anything else entirely.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, April 28, 2013 @ 10:38:07 PM

yeah those suck

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rjmacready
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 12:00:20 AM

Rogue, have you played MLB The Show? One of the best gaming franchises of ANY type. I gladly "waste" my time with that game every day.

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firesoul453
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 11:56:39 AM

I would hate to be a developer for a sports game. A year or two after its released, its in the $5 bin.

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H0TSHELLZ
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 2:07:30 PM

"slowest moving genre" ???
I guess you haven' seen the sells figures for Fifa, Madden, and 2k13. i bet Fifa alone sold more than any game Genre you favor.

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Rogueagent01
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 5:43:44 PM

@RJ

No I have not played it and absolutely never will. You happened to pick the one sport I hate over all other sports. I have never heard anything bad about them from the people that play them, I just hate baseball.

When I was little(4-7) I played t-ball and my dad was the coach. He would give me tests for upto 3 hours a night about the fundamentals. Now I'll give him a little credit we got to the championship every year with a team that had more than 50% girls, while the opposing teams would have maybe 1 or 2. So no doubt he could coach, but I have warned him and so has the rest of my family that he is to have no interaction with kids and baseball ever again. He nearly went pro and because of this he is well versed in baseball, but he strips any kind of fun out of it hence the reason we won't let him teach kids about it anymore.

@Hotshells

I wasn't referring to sales figures at all, I don't know how you even came to that conclusion. I was referring to the development of the games themselves, they move at a snails pace. The only thing that has really changed over the years was graphics up until a couple years ago where they actually started to improve the AI and mechanics of the games. I mean people hate CoD for not putting money back into the games where I find sports games abuse this far worse than CoD ever could.

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fatelementality
Sunday, April 28, 2013 @ 10:33:51 PM
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I so loved Command & Conquer. I miss Red Alert Retaliation the most though. Is there a newer C&C that is very close to the old school gameplay of RAR? As far as my most hated games go, I would have to hand the award to the Fallout games. Whoa, I just felt a lot of evil eyes gazing upon me after typing that. I never understood the appeal of trudging through a bunch of mostly empty wasteland trying to fashion weapons out of whatever. I played Fallout 3 most of the way through and just lost interest. I honestly think that the story didn't appeal to me. Never been a Mad Max fan either. I did, however, enjoy Rage. Go figure. I even used to watch a friend play New Vegas. It made me sleepy. I love Morrowind, Oblivion, & Skyrim though. Just wish Fallout would go away. Didn't care for the Bioshock or Mass Effect games that much either. Yes, I have also seen or played those too. Different strokes is all I can chalk it up to. As far as pure HATRED though. Guitar Hero all the way and then some. Ugh, leave it to the professionals. No one want's to year your stupid ass mash buttons and pretend you're pretending to be a famous rock star.

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EddPm6
Sunday, April 28, 2013 @ 10:44:57 PM
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Personally my problem is the studio/dev and or publisher attitude about their particular game. I can't stand Turn 10 studio due to their smugness and blatant lies about "how much better" their product is than anyone elses. Its one thing to be confident about your abilities but its another when you truly think you are the best, anything else is crap, and everyone else is wrong.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, April 28, 2013 @ 10:49:30 PM
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Let's see, ummm, besides CoD for brainwashing a generation of youth...

I don't like Assassin's Creed; hate it. You can't do anything without pissing off the guards, you can't even walk around peacefully without them trying to murder you. And they try to murder you for sneezing. The battles are crap and the stealth isn't satisfying even on the rare occasions it works.

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xenris
Sunday, April 28, 2013 @ 11:02:43 PM

I actually agree with you I think the AC series is kind of busted really. IT just feels so unpolished to me in so many ways, and the stealth aspect of the game is really a let down.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, April 28, 2013 @ 11:37:16 PM

Still not sure what you've always been doing wrong. The combat is as fluid as can be, and I never alert the guards. They're suspicious if you're on rooftops but that's about it.

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Yukian
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:50:31 AM

One of the few aspects that I loved about Revelations: getting stalked by assassins and they attempting to murder me! I was so shocked the first time that they did stab me! Shame they cut it off from ACIII :/

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___________
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 5:39:24 AM

its not what you do, its where you do it.
if your in a restricted area, of course the guards are going to start chasing you!
thats why you need to keep some spare cash on ya and toss a few coins whenever they get a little too nosy.
or use the courtesans, thieves, soldiers.
or in revelations use the bombs.
the combat is a bit stupid, each guard kindly waiting his turn.

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Akuma07
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 8:01:12 AM

Actually, I agree with you about the guards World, but only in ACIII.

That game really pissed me off with the guards. There was entire sections of the cities that were apparently off limits, with NO warning at all. I'd be walking down the street, then all of a sudden all guards in the area just randomly pounce on me. I just figured that it was because I was native american..... racist punks.

But everything else was epic.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 8:33:48 AM

It made no sense, there were always others milling about in those restricted areas. And why is it a crime to be on the rooftops if nobody can see me? It's supposed to be stealth, out of sight out of mind. Instead when I get up on a rooftop, out of sight, suddenly they know where I am like they have ESP

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xenris
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:10:05 AM

I think what world is trying to say is that the stealth aspects in AC aren't like they are in other games, like tenchu or MGS or splinter cell or probably in his case dishonored.

In AC it does seem like you are getting alerted for no real good reason sometimes. I remember some of the 100% syncs in AC3 requiring no detection and it wasn't from lack of skill but sometimes the guards just saw you when they shouldn't have or a double stealth kill didn't work.

The combat is fluid, but mostly feels automated to me. The parry window is huge when compared to something like Dark Souls, and at a basic level it feels mashy. Dark souls is a game I compare all sword play combat games too, and nothing has come close to being as satisfying to me as that game in terms of how well it handles sword play. Of course that is my opinion, because lots of people like the more fluid, action based, forgiving combat of AC. Its simply taste.

But yeah, World was just talking about the stealth aspects I think. And to that I have to agree at least in AC3 the stealth felt a little weird. This is coming from me a fan of stealth games since their conception.

What would have been nice, is if they had put in vision cones for the enemy AI, had treated line of sight more carefully, and maybe even implemented a shadow system. Basically if they had have put in some of the stealth systems that Splinter Cell has in it.

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Temjin001
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:21:50 AM

AC3 really messed some stuff up with the combat. The whole system needs a complete overhaul. I'm hoping it happens for the next-gen.

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VampDeLeon
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:51:07 AM

Even as an AC series fanatic (main reason I upgraded to PS3), your points are valid in AC3. They went backwards on the whole system in that entry. Apparently, if you don't wear a specific town outfit the guards pick up on this and will chase you down even if you walk and not cause trouble.

So you will have to run to the nearest shop to change in every town you walk in if you don't want this to happen.. which is crazily stupid since they use to allow you in the other games to change your look in the start menu.



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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 11:11:43 AM

The problem is that I wouldn't call Assassin's Creed "stealth," and it isn't classified as such, either. It's an open-world action game with stealthy approaches as an option, but it's not "stealth" at its core.

I did have an issue with the guards suddenly going on alert for no reason in ACIII. That really wasn't present in any of the previous titles, though. There were also more guards on rooftops in ACIII, and fewer rooftops in general because it wasn't built like Rome or something.

That really was much more frustrating. The combat, however, was absolutely better in every sense of the word. And I still say too many people simply didn't play the game correctly. Most never even use their Assassins, for instance, when they're a crucial part of the game and add an entirely new dimension. Plus, I've known people who played it without ever having any idea that guards were cautious. Only being FULLY incognito can you operate freely, and if the guards are warned and you don't do something to bring yourself back to Incog status (tear a wanted poster down, bribe a town crier, etc.), you'll always be wanted.

Plus, there were WAY more skills available via the Assassins in ACIII, and far more combat options and versatility. The issue really involves people not fully experimenting with every facet of a very deep game; i.e., going into every battle and doing the same thing with the same weapons, never using the Assassins, not understanding how caution and Incognito work, etc.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 11:19:48 AM

Yeah I sorta summed up my opinions across the series, though I freely admit I didn't even try Brotherhood or Revelations. I tried with sustained effort to get into 1, 2, and 3 though.

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Temjin001
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:29:37 PM

World, did you try scaring off money beggars by equipping your sword in hand? They run off in fear because they think you may attack them. But you don't then you just put the sword away. Imagination is the real key in Assassin's Creed games ;)

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Temjin001
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 3:46:23 PM

http://kotaku.com/5958941/how-has-assassins-creed-iii-disappointed-me-let-me-count-the-ways

Here's a thorough explanation of some of what's wrong with AC3.

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Akuma07
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:10:47 PM

Wait, are you saying that wearing a specific town outfit will let you be more undetectable by guards? Seruiously? that's cool I guess, I just never knew.

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xenris
Sunday, April 28, 2013 @ 11:00:15 PM
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CoD, for making billions of dollars for being a mediocre shooter with decent production values and an terribly unbalance, broken, buggy, technically flawed multiplayer experience.

No dedicated servers, no fixes to the lag compensation system, no fixes for interp, no fixes to the busted prone shooting, no fixes for the hit boxes and the lag that exacerbates them, and no real effort to balance the weapons, quick scoping, and the worst spawn system ever conceived that they say they fix but actually haven't ever changed.

Top this all off with a zombie mode that has had issues since world at war that still haven't been fixed. Zombies swinging once but hitting you twice, crawler zombies blocking you like they are full grown, getting fully stopped on a corner of a bench, zombie hitboxes getting screwed up when they swing at you etc.

Its like they haven't tried to FIX any of the problems with zombies or the competitive multiplayer and instead just reskin the guns tweak the states and make new maps and perhaps a couple kill streaks. Other than that they don't try to fix any core flaws because they don't have to because people are stupid and keep buying this broken crap.

That is why CoD is my most hated franchise ever.

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Akuma07
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 8:08:53 AM

MW1 was awesome.

Every one since then has just become a crap fest. Non stop noobs-who-become-pros-instantly action. Pisses me off, I tend to be a careful player in FPS games, but MW3 turned me into a run and gun player, and now I suck at FPS games......

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xenris
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:00:41 AM

Oh absolutely I loved MW1. Actually because it had dedicated servers on the PC a lot of the latency issues that plagued the console versions are gone. I actually still play it on occasion :)

I agree with the direction the series went. It just became an over the top, run and gun pat on the back reward for doing everything unbalanced mess of a game.

Some run and gun games are great, watch a professional match of Quake 3 arena or Tribes 2. These people pretty much don't stop moving at all and get mid air projectile shots, prefire gibs and do the most insane rocket bounce dodges you could ever imagine.

As far as shooters that use modern guns go, I still think Counter-Strike has the best balance and gun feel, although that game can be hard for people to get into because when you die you have to wait until the next round :P

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Akuma07
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:12:51 PM

Speaking of that, I jumped back into Counter-Strike: Source a few weeks ago to try it again.

I sucked so bad. I felt like everyone I was shooting at had hacks on haha, I would sit there shooting them but they wouldn't die!!

Used to play it all the time, then everyone started using Aim-bots and crap. I think it's much better now though.

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pavlovic
Sunday, April 28, 2013 @ 11:06:13 PM
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Halo. I know what it meant for consoles FPS, but it have a bad story, bad enemy design and is as colorful as rainbow brite.

I played every Halo entry except 4, and never found anything surprising

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chilker
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:52:41 AM

I actually kind of like that it's colorful. I get tired of brown and grey. I've only played the first Halo all the way through, though, as I never had an XBOX. I just played Halo 1 for PC.

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Banky A
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 3:03:11 AM

halo games are great. theyre the xboxs best

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Douchebaguette
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:04:58 PM

I'll have to agree with Pav. However this is probably due to what Halo fans deem it, and how they do it. Unfortunately a large percentage of my own friends fall within this category.

Firstly, I do reckon it's mainly a move on from teh nostalgia of "wow, a warthhog. WOW! A ROCKET LAUNCHER. MASTER CHIEEIIFFFFFF###!~!"

Notice how all these features are miniscule, yet for some reason even my own friends jizz over it like the latest rad in the toy store. I've never really fallen prey to this phenomenon. Master Chief is also quite a badly designed character. No depth; practically a mask, which is fine - that is what the intended. However this is where I dislike the franchise:

My own friends have gotten into the novels and other adaptions, which basically bring about more depth to the Cheif and Halo universe. But that's exactly the problem. These add ones merely prove how lacking in depth the original Halo installments are (this is somewhat expected, they are FPS games after all). But seriously, the story in Halo 2 and 3 are quite...disappointing.

Also, Halo 4 is beyond me. It is milking from Microsoft in their desperate attempts to keep their no.1 franchise alive in pure form. Halo 4's story is to me, laughable in that sense.

Oh wait. I still bought it. Because my friends forced me to.

Right before they stopped playing that plasticy filled haribo world of a game. Because every game I have doubts with against their argument, no offense to them, I'm usually right.

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Killa Tequilla
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 12:35:12 AM
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I absolutely hate fighting games. I hate getting my butt kicked hard. Two online games I played on Mortal Kombat, got my butt kicked and they got perfect. I hate it.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:50:46 AM

yeah there's no point in playing fighters online unless you are like a professional competitor or know all the exploits (cheats).

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Akuma07
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:14:24 PM

I remember playing Budokai 3 online on the PS2. I got ma asssss kicked! The lag was horrendous.

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Beamboom
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 12:44:18 AM
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Any race simulator:
No strike that. Any simulator, period. They are just annoying. Sitting there with a tiny stick in my hand trying to navigate a car, bike, plane, whatever... That would be next to impossible in real life unless you are very experienced in remote control manoeuvring so how can anyone believe the simulator would do real life driving *any* justice whatsoever. The whole deal just annoys me.

Final Fantasy:
After the huge disappointment that was FF14 (my first FF) I really have to say that I am extremely sceptical of ever touching anything FF again. That people could even call it a RPG in the first place was, to me, completely incomprehensible and still is.
It was just... A kind of a 2.5D action game where you walked along a small catwalk (hence 2.5d) attacking lined up beasts? Wtf?!

Battlefield:
Or really, *any* team-based multiplayer of a certain strategic level. Games where the outcome of my team depends too much on my contribution, oh man I hate that. I hate it because I suck, of course. I'm typically the jumbo guy who spoils it for the rest of the team. Not Fun. :(

Fighting games:
One could suggest that I'm simply too old to learn - or enjoy - memorizing a zillion complex button combinations. But it's not my age cause I've never enjoyed them, ever. It is no fun at all. It can be slightly amusing to take a glance at the often gorgeous visuals and fancy animations, but that's where it ends for me.


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Killa Tequilla
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:47:23 AM

Gran Turismo actually gave me more confidence in the way I drive in real life when I was leaning how to drive. Had no problems what so ever, no stupid mistakes.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 4:00:36 AM

You are skeptical over the Final Fantasy series from playing Final Fantasy XIV? FF14 is the online counterpart of the series - In my opinion it shouldn't even bare the numeral. So i wouldn't judge it to harshly over that, that's like judging Dead Space 2 as a whole for its online. The actual series it self is so much more than the 2 online games.

If you can withstand older graphics I cannot recommend VII, VIII, or IX enough, take a brief look at them online and just go with which ever one seems most appealing to you. If not I would recommend waiting for the Final Fantasy X HD collection being released later this year.

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daus26
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 4:32:41 AM

There are a bunch of noobs in real life driving Lambos and crashing them. If they had play GT5 with all the assists off and drive a Lambo like the Murcielago in the game, they probably wouldn't think twice about buying it in real life lol.

Anyway, it's best to play the game with a steering wheel anyway. Even with the remote control, you can get the sense of throttle application, where-as arcade games you'd be flooring the throttle through corners, which is suicide in real life. GTAcademy I guess is a good indication of how the game can apply to real life.

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Beamboom
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 5:03:54 AM

@ultima: I know, it's not fair at all. But still, it is how it is. FF14 was a game with a very high metascore. If nothing else I should at least understand why the score - even if it was not my cup of tea. But I can't. Ergo, I will not in any way trust an eventual high metascore of a FF game in the future one bit. I'm burnt.

@Daus: Oh of course. The simulators are obviously closer to reality.
But I can't stand the realism in simulators. If they had actually given me the sensation of driving a car in real life then it could be fun. But as it stands today it just takes the fun out of it for me. I'd much rather take a spin in Burnout with trippel barrel rolls any day of the week. :)

One thing is true though; any racing game should be played with a good steering wheel. Yes sir. There's no substitute for that.


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afelhofer
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 8:21:33 AM

You need to play some of the older Final Fantasys. My favorite FF game has to be 6, that was the end of the sprite characters. 7 and 8 are both great in their own ways too. Don't let 14 ruin the franchise for you, it was a horrible game.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:53:29 AM

Are you sure you don't mean FF13? Either way, if you want to have a stiffy over an FF game like everybody else used to then get the FFX HD collection when it comes out.

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Beamboom
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:55:58 AM

Ah yes - FF13 of course. That wall of Roman numerals always confuse me.
I've never tried FF14.

I have tried an old FF once, I think I bought it on PSN and could run both on the PS3 and the Vita. But it was way too old for me, it looked like a rather poor mobile game with what appeared to be just random events happening with no reason, warning or logic.

I'm pretty sure you had to be there at the time in order to appreciate the oldest titles - as we do with most very old games.

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broox9
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:16:22 AM
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1. The Tekken Series - not a huge fighting game fan, but this one is by far the least fun for me. I don't like the way they move, play, or the character design.

2. Tower defense games - which eliminates like 25% of all mobile games (anecdotal guess)

3. RTS games/Empire building games (except for Civ & Sim City)

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AcHiLLiA
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:21:36 AM
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COD more because the devs don't patch their games correctly, hackers/modders are taking over..And their making tons of f*****' money and don't care one bit. RIP W@W MP

MW1 is still the best of them all. Make a game that out shines COD4 hopefully you got a winner again.

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Buckeyestar
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:37:49 AM
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First person shooters, I hate the whole genre. I like to see my character, I can't connect otherwise.

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Dukemz_UK
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 2:37:25 AM
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FIFA soccer / football. The same old bug ridden crap every year, with very tiny and unnecessary changes. Big marketing campaign. Sells at full price until the end of the football season. Rinse and repeat next season.

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Snaaaake
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 3:02:18 AM
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Franchises by Bethesda, buggy all generation long.

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firesoul453
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 7:49:57 PM

I love their games and the game play of them especially but what really bugs me is that complete lack of support and testing.

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Banky A
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 3:04:50 AM
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i dont really have one

>defeats point of commenting

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Mog
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 4:12:24 AM

Me neither


>defeats point of replying

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MeXiCaNFiGhTe12
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 3:38:57 AM
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Assassins Creed hands down.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:53:49 AM

I'm thumbing up both your posts.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 4:16:26 AM
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My biggest problem with a series this gen would go to Dark/Demon Souls. A series which thrives off being difficult - which even if it was that simple is not a selling point for me. But experience with the game I ended up feeling so alienated from it.

I began the game and I had to create my character - So I already new my character wouldn't have much impact on the story. So I started editing this avatar and his skills. The problem was that the game gave you no clue on to what class does what specifically - It would involve plenty of testing to find which class of character I would like and I didn't feel like starting the game over and over just to do that. So I just ended up choosing which one sounded most appealing - I shouldn't have to go online and read up to an hours worth of a walkthrough just to see which class is best suited.

Once beginning the game, I got a dreary history lesson then it began. My character had a a lance and some magic power. The lance is one of the most useless weapons I have ever controlled within a game. You have to lunge forward with it and if you axis is just slightly off you will lunge forward to the side of the enemy leaving you exposed and pretty much dead. This is not praise due to the difficulty of the game, it's purely poor gameplay mechanics. I don't know if the other classes perform just as poorly, nor did I give it my time.

Now what usually comes next is the outstanding arrogance of fans, claiming I am just rubbish at the game - which is usually hailed with the word 'noob' and some curse words. But with such a vague character creation and class system the game is just not welcoming nor for the hour I did give it did much happen.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:56:40 AM

Felt the same way, sold that trash, I won't even add it to my free PSPlus game download list because it isn't worth the effort. The only payoff for mastering it is the satisfaction that you've done something unreasonably difficult, which isn't the reason I play games anymore.

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xenris
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:28:15 AM

This is probably one of the only games where I disagree with World and the people who hate on it because of it appearing unfair.

Unfair was playing contra 3 on the SNES, unfair was having to go back through the levels in Super Ghouls and Ghosts, unfair was playing Gradius 3. Compared to those titles Dark Souls was a walk in the park.

First ultima I want to say that your description of the lance is either off or you weren't using a lance. The spear is one of if not the best weapon in the game. You can keep your shield up while poking at the enemy.

I have trained combat arts for the better part of my life, and nothing about the design of how the weapons handle is poor in dark souls. In fact it is one of the best gaming representations of how you would actually be fighting if you were using a weapon in real life, in a full suit of armor. Mount and Blade is pretty good for this as well.

So while I'm not going to call you a noob, I will say that the classes don't mean anything, if you read the manual it tells you that it is just your starting stats and equipment. Remember back in the day when you used to read manual? Second the gameplay mechanics are not poor they are strategic and intentional. If you missed hitting someone with a spear in a real life fight that person would see that as an opportunity and punish you. Much like in the souls series you are punished for being reckless. Also the fact that you missed means that you didn't read the tutorials on the ground that teach you how to lock on to an enemy. If you are locked on you will never miss an enemy unless it is a boss and they go into a huge leap move.

The souls combat is one of the best systems ever put into a game. While it could be a bit more responsive(something they addressed in patches) it is really a game about patience, timing and LEARNING. The key word here is learning. This isn't an anime inspired action RPG where a tiny little girl can wield a big sword with one hand. No it is a game that takes weight, angles, timing and stamina into consideration.

So here is what you did "wrong" with the game. You didn't managed your green stamina bar properly, you didn't learn the controls to the game, you didn't take a couple minutes to flip through the manual, and you played it like God of War most likely.

I am not trying to be a jerk or elitist or arrogant but the souls games are really not that hard. There are way harder games how there. The only thing that makes Dark Souls hard is impatience. If you mash you die, if you run into a room without a shield you die, if you don't play cautiously and patiently you die.

People often blame the game for being unfair but once you learn it, the actually gameplay, the enemies and the bosses(safe a few) aren't actually hard. The game boils down into monitoring the stamina bar and not over extending yourself in combat.

All this aside I can totally see how people don't like the combat or don't like the games. But where I disagree with people is when they say that the design is poor. It isn't it is exactly how Miyazaki wanted it, and it works incredibly well. Its just very different than anything else on the market right now.

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Temjin001
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 6:02:13 PM

Yah, Xenris that's pretty close to how my brother summed it up. It really comes down to your aptitude with these types. It's hard similar to how some view Ninja Gaiden hard. Some people get it. Others don't.

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Jed
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 4:25:18 AM
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I was never into RTS games, so I can't say I hate them, but I don't like them.

The thing I really hate is how single player campaigns are being thrown aside for multiplayer crap. COD is the absolute worst in this category. MW1 had some really cool SP missions ie: the sniper mission and the C-130 gunship level. But now they just focus so hard on multiplayer and all the money they can make on DLC the SP campaigns just suffer and die. That Pisses Me Off!

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daus26
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 4:44:54 AM
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I don't like CoD, but not because I think it's necessarily a horrible game, but with how successful it is, I expect better production value and innovation or pushing through boundaries and certainly no DLC ripoffs. I just feel like they don't deserve it as I see others that do deserve it more. If there's one thing I hate, it is companies that ride on their success without really appreciating it. Instead it's the opposite and that's taking advantage. It doesn't help that a lot of games are influenced by their success which leads to identity crisis on a lot of our old favorites.

Other than that, I don't personally have a game that I consider hating the most. Hate is a strong word, and the worst games I've played would only be described as unfavorable. That's it.

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___________
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 5:48:38 AM
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genre, have to go with RTS ive always hated anything turn based.
whole point of a game is to PLAY the game, for you to be in control!
so moving the mouse to select a group of characters, than clicking for them to go to x marks the spot is just stupid.
turn based like pokemon too, its far too stats based and even when you have higher specs allot of the times things dont happen as they should.
again i want to be playing the game, not select a move than the game does the rest for me.
how fun would mortal kombat be if you just selected which combo you wanted and the game issued it out for you?

series though i have to go with assassins creed.
THE best franchise created this gen and one of the best franchises EVER created!
1 was such a ambitious title, yea it was VERY repetitive but at least it had such a complex story, a very different unique combat system, addictive and now iconic parkour system.
2 refined it even more and added much needed variety.
brotherhood was a slight update with the expansion of assassin recruits.
revelations added the bomb mechanics and a change in local, god Constantinople was beautiful!!!!!!!!
3 though, WHAT THE &^%$ WAS THAT!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
honestly remove the letters AC, and the number 3, and you would have no idea its even a assassins creed game!
AC3 was a bigger slap in the face to fans than RE5 and FFXIII were put together!
and DS3 would be a close second, god i hate EA!!!!!

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dmiitrie
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 5:54:54 AM

You do realize that RTS stands for Real Time Strategy, which is the exact opposite of turn-based, right?

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___________
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:53:19 AM

its not the exact opposite.
RTS you select your troops, select what you want them to do and they execute it.
turn based you select your troops, select what you want them to do and they execute it.
seems pretty identical to me.

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xenris
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 12:05:27 PM

Underscore turn based and RTS are completely different systems.

RTS means that when you are issuing commands to your troops the enemy is doing the same thing at the same time and there is no pause to the action.

Turn based means you and the enemy team take turns issuing commands and making your moves.

They are completely different systems and your example was just terribly ignorant.

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Rogueagent01
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 6:26:58 PM

I wonder sometimes if you even play games or just look them up on the internet and then use that info to bash/praise them. How could you not understand the difference between RTS and Turn-Based? This would be considered Gaming101.

Unrelated:

I have noticed over the last say month that you get a thumbs up for every single post you put up, are you seriously thumbing yourself up? I really hope not as that would really say a lot about you as a person.

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dmiitrie
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 5:53:30 AM
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I remember hating Wanderers From Ys III so much when I was younger that it I developed a pretty intense hatred for the whole Ys series. But that was a long time ago and I just can't stay mad about something so trivial for so long.

I'm also a little bitter over Final Fantasy and there is a small part of me that would like the next few games in the series to fail in the (probably futile) hope that it'll cause SE to start making games that I like again. But thats probably a little petty. Even I'd I never enjoy another FF, I'll live. It's not as though there aren't plenty of other great games to play.

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cLoudou
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 6:31:11 AM
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COD because I'm just a hater with no reasoning at all.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:57:09 AM

eh, that's good enough

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SirLoin of Beef
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 7:34:48 AM
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Any game that relies too heavily on QTEs gets my wrath. Plus, I'm not a fan of the later CoD games because of the lack of quality control that seems to be present. Way too many hackers and modders make playing MP a worthless endeavor. If I'm going to get my face shot off, I'd rather it be done by someone who's good at the game and not by someone who's so deficient at it that they need cheats to succeed.

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Akuma07
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 8:05:30 AM
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Game franchise: Grand Theft Auto.

Seriously, can't stand it anymore. Everyone like goes ballistic for this franchise, but I just don't get it.

I played Vice City, but I have since moved on. I played GTAIV a few times, but only to play multiplayer with my mates. I think I spent 90% of my time in both those games blowing things up, and causing huge traffic jams, just to blow all the cars up.

Genre: Musical instrument games.

Effing hated the Guitar Quero games, and every single other one released since then. If I want to learn how to play a guitar, I will go and learn, not go and play a video game, because THAT's realistic.

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afelhofer
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 8:24:15 AM
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Many people may detest me for this but I can't stand Gears of War. I don't understand the fascination with it. I think the controls of clunky and I prefer the storyline to be a little more real world type shooter like Medal of Honor.

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DrRockso87
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:25:10 AM
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Final Fantasy XIII.

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Sir Dan
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:34:11 AM
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Mario. It just bugs me one game has been milked for so long and a game system in general has been surviving off the money of the people who keep buying it with little effort to establish anything else.

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PoopsMcGee
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:36:05 PM

I agree. The characters, world and story(?) have been dated since the early 90's.

Gameplay is good but everything else is completely lame.

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Rogueagent01
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 6:22:49 PM

I always forget about Mario. That is without a doubt the most overabused character in the history of gaming. The Mario character has been in well over 200 games, talk about milking a franchise to death. When Mario finally dies off I believe that will be a glorious day. And please people don't take this as straight bashing as I did love 1-3.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:00:04 AM
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Unrelated, but I hate Harry Potter. I know 2 girls with HP tattoos! That crap has messed people up. Yes I love fantasy movies and books, no I haven't watched or read Potter stuff, I refuse to!

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VampDeLeon
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:41:12 AM

I felt the same way, until I finally read the book (the movies are meh compared). Though in your case, you could just have been older than the target audience to find any relatable connection (versus someone under 11) to even get started in the series when it came out..

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 11:18:02 AM

It's still a kid flyin a broom.

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Cabalavatar1
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:12:21 PM

I thought I'd rather just watch LotR again instead of watching the Harry Potter movies. Now, the first three are pretty bad. Bad child acting, really silly stories, etc. But the latter ones build characters, have rather entertaining plots, and bring in some heavy hitting actors. The romance end is still entirely bogus, though...

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Akuma07
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:22:33 PM

I watched the later ones for Emma Watson....

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Temjin001
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:25:28 AM
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I dunno. Other than thinking Catherine is a preverted-lonely man game I can't think of much I actually hate.

I will say I'm trying to understand the appeal of Dynasty Warriors or Warriors Orochi.
They're games I want to like but every time I try a demo I feel it feels directionaless, button-mashy, and the land is too flat to seem real. I dig the decorated outfits and heavy metal guitar solo music and very japanese feel of it all I just wish it didn't seem so... I dunno. Maybe I should just get Warrior's Orochi 3 and really try to understand what the heck it's all about.

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xenris
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:32:15 AM

I hear the appeal of the Warriors games come from playing it in the hardest difficulty. It apparently becomes more about strategy and speed than just mashing. You take more damage, you have to monitor your health and mousu(spell check?) metre and in general it is way better.

But on the normal difficulty they come off as mashy. I am not in to them per say but that is the defense given by fans of the series.

I actually want to find one for cheap that has local and online co op and just skill the game in the hardest mode :D

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Temjin001
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 6:16:28 PM

Cool. yah, I'll try to get to Warrior's Orochi 3 some day.

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gamer4lifexxx
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 11:03:37 AM
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Most hated game franchise? it's a tie between COD and pretty much any broken, glitch heavy game Bethesda develops

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PC_Max
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 11:57:43 AM
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Can't say I hate CoD only that it and other iterations like it have taken the limelight in this gen and really do not add anything innovative to the game industry other than on the financial success side of things, which one may or may not feel is the most important thing here.

Not sure I hate any game series or game specifically. To each their own and hopefully the industry continues to produce a variety of decent games for everyones tastes.

BUT.... if I was to say to single out a game or games that I would not say I hate but find incredible boring and annoying when others (friends) try to convince to enjoy them... it would have to the Angry Bird games which are neither original or fun after the first 5 minutes or less, BUT what the heck is it with Minecraft? I spent less that 10 minutes.. TRYING to like it but thought to myself after a while that my brain was hurting... I think starving for something... fun? It possibly could be a great time waster but I do not have that kind of time to waste, I am not brain dead... not yet. :/

If you enjoy and maybe even love those games, then I will reiterate what I said before. As long as the industry continues to make diverse selection of genre of games to cater to everyones tastes, then I am... cool with that and those who enjoy... Angry Birds. :/

Keep Playing!

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Cabalavatar1
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 1:21:07 PM
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Either Halo or CoD. They're both broken for story/campaign, and they augur the end of gaming as I prefer it. Mindcraft, too, for the same reason.

But I have a special hatred for what happened this generation to Final Fantasy. It used to be my most beloved franchise, the perfect go-to always-quality jRPG. Now it's little more than a ghoul of its former self, dead and yet alive. That is to say, it's a rotten zombie that only tenuously looks like its former self.

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firesoul453
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 7:51:47 PM

The thing that bugged me about halo (halo 1 for sure), is that the story was so obviously a complete rip off of starcraft and yet people praised it for having a great story.

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clockwyzebkny
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 5:19:22 PM
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My most hated game franchise is Kane and Lynch My friend abhors the Uncharted series

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coldbore
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 9:15:45 PM
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hands down any team sports game (excluding extreme sports like snowboarding, skateboarding, motocross, that stuff). also, never been a big rpg fan, the only rpg's i ever really got into was fallout and pokemon (which honestly i must have put over a thousand hours into the both of them), even elder scrolls didnt interest me too much. operation red flag sucked too. and the world of warcraft series, for whatever reason i hate that as well...

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PharaohJR
Monday, April 29, 2013 @ 10:00:11 PM
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cant say i got hate for a game or series yet but this generation i was disappointed with NFS games....

NFS Carbon was koo.... I didnt expect it to be underground or most wanted but overall it delivered enough for me to invest time......

NFS Prostreet.......... suprised me with the option of a clutch available in manual & driving physics attempt on realism was decent... damage was best i seen in any NFS series but environment & story lacked... koo concept just not executed right in my eyes.

rest of NFS titles released cant mention cause the previews & demos couldnt move me take time to play.... thats bad coming from a man who been running with the series since 1st drop to Porsche Unleashed to Hot Pursuits & Undeground....

note to EA... get ya mind right these last years this gen & for sake of next gen.

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