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Actress Ellen Page: Naughty Dog "Ripped Off" My Likeness

Naughty Dog said they "just didn't see it" when they created the character of Ellie for their new highly acclaimed video game, The Last Of Us.

They were referring to the likeness between Ellie and actress Ellen Page. Oddly, just about everyone saw that similarity when the teaser trailer debuted, which resulted in plenty of rumors that Page was indeed the actress who plays Ellie.

However, as we know now, Page is not the actress; it's Ashley Johnson, who did an amazing job. The developers even said they altered Ellie's face to reflect more of Johnson. But Page still thinks Naughty Dog "ripped off" her likeness, as she said on Reddit:

"I guess I should be flattered that they ripped off my likeness, but I am actually acting in a video game called Beyond Two Souls, so it was not appreciated."

Page is indeed the lead actress in Quantic Dream's upcoming title, Beyond: Two Souls, which is slated to launch October 8 exclusively on the PlayStation 3. She plays Jodie Holmes and the virtual character looks a lot like her. As for Naughty Dog, creative director Neil Druckmann posted the following clarification on Twitter:

"Ellie from The Last of Us was perfectly played by @TheVulcanSalute. No one could've done a better job. Please go follow her and retweet."

If I look closely at Ellie, I'm not really seeing Page. I think they made enough alterations to the character to make those differences plain. So, we're hoping Page isn't too annoyed.

Related Game(s): The Last Of Us

Tags: the last of us, ellen page, ellie, ashley johnson, naughty dog

6/24/2013 11:32:03 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (103 posts)

Saber1989
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 11:52:13 AM
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There are some small differences but all white people look the same...

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newchef
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 11:59:41 AM

yea we do especially white women around that age

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 4:39:40 PM

lol

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Tim Speed24
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 5:20:59 PM

Whoa,whoa,whoa......

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Akuma07
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 7:53:58 PM

You know, I wasn't impressed when they used my likeness to make Kratos.

But I got over it.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 9:49:24 PM

You need to get more sun. :)

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CrusaderForever
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 12:04:19 PM
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This is so funny! You can argue that every person has a double. Also every game made to date with real life characters, not anime, has characters that look like someone in the world. Disappointed in her for thinking like this.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 12:14:09 PM
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I dont think she looks like Page much either. I think Page spoke out of order here, and probably shouldnt have spoken publicly about it. This makes her look egotistical, like shes doing something above The Last of Us somehow.


Ellie really has her own identity here, she doesnt have Page's wide face, and has little traits from Johnson as well. In game Ellie really does have an identity of her own.

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KidPresentable
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 12:26:05 PM

Ellie looks more like Ellen Page than she does Ashley Johnson. Also, she doesn't seem egotistical at all. Just pointing out that she actually worked hard on another video game that's also being released. One that will be a better game, in my opinion.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 12:59:12 PM

Well I guess first of all, I dont care who she looks like more of. I personally dont think she looks like either that much for us or anyone else to argue about. But Pages wide face really shows that Ellies physique was based more on Ashley Johnsons. Maybe earlier on she looked more like Page than now, but again some traits from both but not enough for Page to say what she did.

I do understand how it could come off like you put it, and im certainly not debating how hard she worked or is working on Beyond, but it was egotistical for her, to me, to come out in public like she did and to say they "ripped off" her likeness. She had no place to say that. She said it bcause shes in the public eye.

And I have no idea why yoy brought up Beyond being better. But if you want my opinion it wont be better. It will be great, it will be genre defining, and it certainly is now on top of my most anticipated list, but it will not accomplish what The Last of Us has.

So there! ;)

Funny how opinions work huh?!

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:14:41 PM

I know I'm gunna come across as an as*hole by saying this, and I might well be wrong, but I think you just watched a walkthrough of TLOU on youtube. The way you talk about the game, it's the only thing that makes sense in my mind. Sorry.

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KidPresentable
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 2:20:01 PM

Liam, you don't come across like an a-hole. Just the typical person who can't respect someone having a difference of opinion about a game. The Last of Us has not one single gameplay element that hasn't been seen in a game before it. It's been said and no one can dispute it because it's true. I can't exalt a game, no matter how well done, when the gameplay isn't taking anything to the next level. This is a survival game that you can carry 8 weapons at a time in. Huh? Where even guys with body armor can be punched out exactly the same as people with none. Huh? I've blown a guy's head off and his partner will still search for me in the other room. Dat AI, son. It is a game streamlined and catered to casuals. I can see why it's so appealing to some...

BigRailer, you're definitely welcome to your opinion on Beyond: Two Souls vs. Last of Us. I encourage it! I won't get mad or offended if someone doesn't like something as I do. Not sure why that's an issue for others....

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 2:35:56 PM

You got my point then, that opinions are just that and everyone has one.

But you truly are missing the large part of why The Last of Us is so good and being considered as great as it is. You keep referring to gameplay and quite honestly thats an easy thing to dispute. But nonetheless the gameplay is super solid even if it is nothing new. But the game is built upon superb mechanics, gameplay, sound and control, and the end result delivers an impactful experience. An experience you just dont get anywhere else.Its more than playing a masterpiece, this game is surreal. If you dont see that, its easy to understand why you praise games like Wolverine and Deadpool that dont even come close to standing up to a game like The Last of Us.

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matt99
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 2:39:19 PM

@KidPresentable, Sure TLOU didn't usher in new gameplay but what game in the last few years has? Also it did bring gaming to a whole new level in terms of storytelling and characters, and solidified gaming as a legitimate avenue for literary expression.

Also how can you say a game will be better when you haven't even played it yet? I agree that based on what we've seen it has the potential to give TLOU a run for it's money for GOTY.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 3:14:41 PM

If "revolutionary" was a requirement to warrent a perfect score then no games would get perfect scores. The Last of Us nailed what it set out to do so that's why it got 74 perfect scores out of 108 reviews.

Annd, if Beyond is anything like Heavy Rain(glitches and screen tearing aside) it will be a good game but better than The Last of Us it will not.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 3:49:27 PM

I'd respect your opinion if it made sense.

"The Last of Us has not one single gameplay element that hasn't been seen in a game before it."

I don't get this! Who goes into THIS game and comes out with THAT reaction!? Anyway, what did you think of the crafting system? How slickly they used UI so you do it in real-time, and you get a real sense of tension when you need something. Never felt that in a game before.

"This is a survival game that you can carry 8 weapons at a time in. Huh? Where even guys with body armor can be punched out exactly the same as people with none. Huh? I've blown a guy's head off and his partner will still search for me in the other room."

Seriously!? Was this your first reaction "OMG I can carry 8 weapons how lame". I can tell if you could only carry two weapons you'd be the one of the first to complain how unrealistic it is/ how it restricts the gameplay. And the A.I situation you speak of, without context, just sounds like a glitch. Weird *hit happend to me as well - but I just do not get how you can get such...negative points from the game.

I get the concept of having an opinion, but I truly can't understand yours; I was in awe of every second of my experiance.

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Underdog15
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 4:23:13 PM

I didn't see anything in Liam's first response to indicate he's a guy who can't respect another's opinion.

I mean... Kid, he's got a point. You try to justify your point of view by listing things that just... aren't really true. I'm playing my first playthrough on hard, and I gotta tell you... there's not much room for error. I can only imagine what the next difficulty will be like when it unlocks!

Sure, by end game you carry 8 weapons, but your melee weapons break -OFTEN-... and even though you have a variety of guns... you -REALLY- need to make every.... bullet... count. Miss 2 or 3 shots and you're out of ammo with a clicker about to rip out your jugular.

You make it sound like you're freaking Rambo, which couldn't be further from the truth. I have to echo Liam... it genuinely just sounds like you're watching a youtube playthrough on Easy mode.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 4:27:59 PM

Kid, you've said The Last Of Us doesn't do anything revolutionary about a dozen times. Xbox bias gettin' to you, or can you not help yourself? This news piece warranted no opinion on the game itself, did it?

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KidPresentable
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 5:00:17 PM

Ben- yes it's.my overwhelming Xbox bias. I'm taking pulls for that. But, honestly,I shouldn't have said that Beyond was going to be better than Last of Us.I should have stayed on topic. I apologize for that.

Liam- if I could only carry one weapon in the game, it would have been awesome. I've been clear before that I feel that ND didn't go far enough to make it feel like I was trying to survive and fight for my life. I wish they had done more.

BigRailer- I never heaped praise on Wolverine or Deadpool. I said they were good games. Nothing fancy, just good. I also pointed out that they weren't on the level of a extraordinary game, Arkham Asylum.. So, because of games I love like Heavy Rain and Red Dead, that means I can't enjoy anything else?

Underdog- you say nothing I say is true. Is it true that there is no distinction between punching a guy with body armor and a helmet and a normally clothed guy. Yes that's true. And you've already confirmed that you can carry 8 weapons, just like I said. So, come back when you got something, ok? As far as the game being hard on hard mode....wow I don't think that had happened in any other game ever. Try Vanquish on God Hard, then you'll know what it's like to have to make every bullet count, even when you have a thousand.



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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 9:17:55 PM

Kid-

I didnt say you couldnt like anything else, not even close in fact. What I said and more importantly meant was that if those are the types of games you enjoy I can see why you wouldnt get what makes The Last of Us special because they are worlds apart.

The reason I say you praised those games is because when you spoke (typed) about them you had more to say about the great things they had going for them in one paragraph then you ever have for The Last of Us. You didnt say one negative and any thing that could be considered you covered it up with something else. The Last of Us anything good theres always a bad when you talk about it.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 9:52:01 PM

He's the king of straw men and putting words in people's mouths Big.

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KidPresentable
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:44:35 PM

BR
That actually makes it worse. lol. I don't understand how you could come to that conclusion considering, I've already said before that Heavy Rain is my favorite game this generation,, and Shadow of the Colossus is my favorite game of all time. Those two are polar opposites of Wolverine and Deadpool. I'm not cursed with that affliction that I can only get enjoyment out of one type of game. Whatever mood strikes, that's what I play. You know what I played after I finished Last of Us? Rumble Roses XX. No rhyme or reason to it. I looked on the shelf and I decided to play it. So, I understand the Last of Us was aiming for. A sense of dread hopelessness, and fighting and clawing to make sense in a dying world. I get it. I really do. And if it were a movie or a novel, it would have done its job well. But a game needs gameplay, and it should match that narrative as close as it possibly can. TLoU didn't do that, in my opinion.

If you want to me to criticize Deadpool to make you feel like I'm being fair to Last o of Us, ok. But, honestly, saying it's not on the level Arkham Asylum implies there are issues. Those issues being it's a bit too short, gameplay is standard fare, the voice acting is pretty mediocre, besides Nolan North, and the graphics leave a lot to be desired. Still, it's an entertaining game. Does that suit you?

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KidPresentable
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:52:23 PM

Jawknee
The other day you told me not to respond to you. Now you can't get enough of me. Someone got a lil crush? Can't blame you. Me being a king and all....

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 11:04:38 PM

Just informing my good friend here what a waste of time it is trying to reason with someone who just can't get enough of his straw men. You have a whole field of them to knock down, now GO!

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KidPresentable
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 11:36:34 PM

Actually, I think Railer and I were having a pretty cordial back and forth until you butted in.

Your first comment on this little thread was revolutionary this and perfect scores that when no one had even said the game didn't deserve its accolades. Or when you labeled me as MS shill with no true knowledge(kind of like your game discussions) when we were just talking about online passes. If anyone is truly familiar with straw men, it's you, you hypocrite. You're telling blank guy that he's negative and you're the most rude, hateful poster around, disparaging games and systems you've never really played. So quit embarrassing yourself, stop being such hypocrite, leave me alone, and get a life. I mean that, like stop reading this, and go get one.. .

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 11:54:22 PM

Stooooop. Jawknee, Kid, give it a rest.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 5:50:54 PM

Yeah... I don't get how someone could miss what I said so badly.

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coverton341
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 12:21:05 PM
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I thought Ellie looked like Ellen Page, and if you were bored enough you can find an article where I said as much around the time LoU was announced here on PSX. The character sounds like Ellen Page and has the same kind of dialogue as characters she has played in film.

Earlier character designs look even more like Ellen Page whereas the Ellie that made it into the game looks like they did try to alter her enough to pull the "not intentional" card.

I will go on record as saying I absolutely love The Last of Us, probably one of my all time favourites and definitely in the top three of this generation. That said, I am betting that the character was inspired and maybe even written with Ellen Page in mind, heck maybe even written for her. Beyond wasn't announced yet and seeing as how both QD and ND are under Sony, they may have heard through the rumour mill that Ellen Page would be working on an in-house production and assumed it would be theirs.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:11:22 PM

Ashley Johnson was cast very early in the production of TLOU, and it started production just post-Uncharted 2.

I know you're not trying to be against TLOU, but Naughty Dog don't write dialouge for a particular person; they don't work that way. They have a mindset to create wholesomely original characters, because they have incredibly talented people/artists.

As for the 'remodel', I think that's because making video games is an iterative process. Naughty Dog even say it themselves, nothing comes together until the game is in its final stages.

Annnnd, if you've played the game, Ellie shares ZERO likeliness with Ellen Paige; she is very much inspired by her actor. This accusation that she has been 'ripped off', massively undermines Ashley's performance in TLOU, which was incredible. As someone else said, pretty disappointed.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:16:28 PM

Yea, unfortunately for Ashley her performance is being diminished with this response. Luckily ND realized that based on their response in the article and pointed out how great Ashley was, which was fantastic.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:44:00 PM

I like Ashley quite a bit. She hasn't acted in much lately(small roll in the Avengers was the last that I know of) but she's a great entrepreneur and musician.

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ethird1
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 12:30:04 PM
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There was an article months ago about one of the companies having to change the appearance of their characters because it looked so much like Page. If I am correct ..... it was Naughty Dog.

End of line.

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TheAgingHipster
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 12:30:05 PM
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I don't really see it either, at least not beyond the very average appearance of both.

I mean, isn't that how Ellen Page has made her career? By looking very much like an average, every day, girl-next-door type? If so, and she's a sort of "everywoman" in appearance, isn't it plausible that it's just a coincidence, or at least an unconscious decision on NG's part because maybe they saw her in a movie just before designing Ellie, and it just happened to fall out that way?

I dunno. Either way, not the classiest of responses on her part, in my opinion.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:14:09 PM

That was kind of my point, that regardless, her response was very snobbish. Like shes trying to say, who do they think they are... although of course thats not what she said. It just came off that way.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:56:39 PM

She made her career by playing a bratty teenager who got knocked up by that unfunny kid who looks like a bird.

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Xombito
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 3:07:36 PM

A bird! Lol.

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Underdog15
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 4:25:40 PM

Michael Cera is hilarious.

Ever seen Arrested Development? Or Superbad? Or Scott Pilgrim? Yeah, he's typecast, but he's perfect in that type of role.

Besides... with all the Canadians in that movie, you know I gotta stick up for it. :p

Plus, Page is from the same area as me. Born in the same hospital, in fact.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 5:40:05 PM

Yes, and they're all unfunny, easily forgettable rolls. Playing the same insecure teenager who's afraid of girls doesn't exactly register on the hilarity scale. It was kinda funny in Arrested Development but got old by the second season.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 5:53:23 PM

It's definitely usually an over-the-top character, but all the characters in those are less "real" characters and more representations of very specific human conditions. So long as it fits the mood of the production, which they do, I can accept it and exist within the absurd worlds created.

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Shams
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 12:55:39 PM
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She not only looks like her, but she's named after her ("Ellie" from "Ellen"), and the earlier version of "Ellie" even looked more like Ellen, until they made her look a bit younger (i believe there was a psxextreme article on that). My guess is they were hoping to recruit her for the role, until Quantic Dreams scooped her up for their project.

People who can't see the obvious similarity either have impaired facial-recognition mental faculty, or are just playing dumb.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:01:23 PM

I just dont see it like a lot of people do. However its hard to ignore the traits, but I still see traits of Johnson as well. But I just dont see it being some how a replicate which it seems people are making it out to be. Now whether or not Ellie really is based of Ellen we probably will never really know.

However I stand by my point that Ellie does have her own identity in game and thats whats really clear to me.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:32:29 PM

The original version in the reveal trailer arguably looked like her but not the final version that made it into the game. But since I don't agree with you I must be retarded or dumb or something....

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:45:37 PM

Jawknee -

You have what is called "impaired facial-recognition mental faculty".

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FatherSun
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 2:34:19 PM

Brad Pitt Syndrome? Can't recognize faces. It's a thing. Look it up!

No matter what Ms Page could've handled this better. Especially within the walls of PlayStation Exclusives this should have been contained. Not a major issue. Just an actress practicing her divaness. Even if it is only to a slight degree.

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Shams
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 7:09:57 PM

Sorry to hurt your feelings boys. I guess my remark was unnecessarily harsh.

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Shams
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 7:18:49 PM

The community has gotten bit snarky here, though, in the past couple years. Not quite sure why that is. Getting old and grouchy, I guess?

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DIsmael85
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:35:37 PM

You aren't the only one who's noticed. Everyone is acting so butt hurt over Ellen Page's comment. It's pretty childish.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:40:23 PM

No one is "butt hurt", she made the comment, expect people to react.

Im reacting by saying shes acting childish, amd snobbish. Im not somehow upset or affected by it. Just thing it was uncalled for.

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DIsmael85
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:47:34 PM

Big, have you read the reddit post? Or are you just going by what was posted here on psx? In no way was her comment directed negatively toward the Last of Us, Neil or Ashley. Folks are acting "childish" by calling her a snob. Reading comprehension, sometimes we can't tell how a person really feels or is coming off as based on text alone, but we should all know by now what type of character she is. Take a look at all her Beyond interviews and well most of the characters she plays.

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VampDeLeon
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 11:09:36 PM

Well, it is PSXExtreme for a reason.

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DIsmael85
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 11:21:21 PM

Lol, it's "EXTREME"!!!! :P

Skip to 1:35: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysB2botA3B8

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PANICinc
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:10:08 PM
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She looks like a brunette version of my daughter more than she looks like Miss Page.

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photo K
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:23:05 PM
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i honestly thought she looked kind of like Page and sounded a little like her. But she really is just a young teenage girl, which can easily look and sound like a thousand other teenage girls.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:26:28 PM
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Whatever. She's a snob. She's showed her true colors with that bratty statement.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:31:45 PM

Glad you see it too.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:33:03 PM

A humble person doesn't have that reaction. She sounds pissed she's not getting royalties or something.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:42:03 PM

Im actually annoyed by her statement. You are right she just comes off snobbish.

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Underdog15
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 4:29:49 PM

If it was truly in her likeness, she should be concerned as a professional who is trying to promote this OTHER game on PS3. People already confuse this game as having been done by her, as opposed to Beyond: Two Souls. Maybe not on gaming sites like this where we're in the know, but I've definitely heard it.

Even my wife watching me play said, "Oh, this is that game Ellen Page was gonna be in!"

So I get it. I'm surprised you don't, Jawk. Aren't you a performing artist yourself?

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 5:47:51 PM

So a design that was revealed way before Beyond and that didn't even make it into the final game, let alone a second trailer gives her reason to worry about her likeness being "ripped off"? And instead of being flattered and humbled by it she decides to act like a spoiled snob?

Yea, I don't get it.

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Kryten1029a
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:44:23 PM

Ellen Page has had well-deserved success but that statement does come off a bit strong.

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Simcoe
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 11:25:50 PM

Jawknee why does this bug you so much? No one else, not even bigrailer, is as bothered by that comment as much as you are. While I don't think what Ms. Page said was the smartest thing to write on the internet given the permanence of the internet, I will say that it's really hard to tell if someone is actually being serious, sarcastic, mischievous, ect., on the internet. Especially after reading the reddit thread in question, Ms. Page is obviously trying to mix in some humour with some of her answers, eg. I really doubt that her favourite juice is "tequila". Plus she doesn't react angrily and ask for compensation when someone invites her to be in their band called "Ellen Page and the Argonauts". Even before the reddit quote she responds to a twitter commenter, who mistaken's her for playing Ellie, to send their praise to Ms. Johnson.
https://twitter.com/EllenPage/status/348913069625327616
We don't know how many times she's had to clarify peoples misunderstandings previously, perhaps she was gracious in all those too, we don't know, because that's not scandalous, that doesn't drive traffic to the website that finds the quote and breaks the story (IGN).

I like it better when we talk about games, rather than drama surrounding games, makes it seem like were on a celebrity gossip site.

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Jalex
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:49:32 PM
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Ellen, you're flattering yourself. Personally, I never saw it until I looked for it after reading so many comments making the comparison.
Looking at the source of her comment, the question posed to her was really one-sided, but I think she should have answered with a bit more diplomacy regardless. Especially since 'Beyond: Two Souls' seems like one of the few titles that could actually top 'The Last of Us.'

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 1:55:34 PM
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What's so absurd about her whining is her point is moot considering the reveal trailer version that resembled her didn't even make it into the final game. Whining whiners are gonna whine I guess.

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Dreno
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 2:21:01 PM
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In complete honewtness and respect to peoples opinions who dont see the likeness, as soon as I was introduced to ellie in the last of us, i thought " woe this girl looks like the chick that played in juno".

Now not knowing that was ellen page i didnt think anything of it until i came across todays topic. And now that i know who ellen page is (turns out its juno, surprise right?) I think the likeness is still uncanny even if they did alter the appearance of elli.

Either way, ellen page should be flattered. Maybe someonebin ND just thought she had a look that would fit into tlou atmosphere or something.

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shadowscorpio
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 2:27:05 PM
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Would Page be saying this if Ellie was a blonde with a slightly higher pitched voice, with demeanorkept the same?

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mk ultra
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 2:28:53 PM
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My friend was so convinced it was Page a couple weeks ago we made a bet and looked it up. He's really good at faces too, so there's got to be some resemblance.

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FatherSun
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 2:44:54 PM
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No one is disputing the resemblance of "Ellie" to Ellen Page. Well, not everyone anyway, but as many have stated Ms Page is NOT very unique looking. Ellies character resembles her but also resembles the voice actress that portrays her Ashley Johnson. "Ripped off" is too strong a statement to describe what has transpired.

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wambo
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 3:52:59 PM
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In the early stages of develppment in TLOU I say ellie had resemblence to ellen page, I don't see it now I've played the game tho.

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Temjin001
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 4:02:01 PM
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Wait. Way back wasn't Naughty Dog asked to change the likeness of Ellen Page because she was already a main in Beyond? Maybe that was misinformation idk. But I do remember the initial artwork revealed for TLoS made myself and many others think that Ellie was being acted by Ellen Page.

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Underdog15
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 4:32:00 PM

Early on when TLOU and B:TS were -just- announced, I confused the two games regularly over the Ellen Page piece.

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Ludicrous_Liam
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 5:21:04 PM

I remember getting confused by gaming websites getting confused lol. I think that contributed to it. Some websites did wrongly say Ellen Paige was working on it.

Anyone else slightly annoyed that we're having to talk about this, rather than how freakin awesome the game is?

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daus26
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 @ 5:37:11 AM

Not only that, almost everyone kept repeating and mentioning Ellen Page, even here. It made me google the name and I honestly had to agree. There was definitely change in the final version though.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 4:41:23 PM
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It was kind of hard not to notice especially with the name "Ellie"

I just got the game in the mail!

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 6:18:18 PM

Enjoy. The stealth gameplay is much more enjoyable with Listen Mode turned off.

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Yukian
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 6:39:11 PM

If you're gonna play The Last of Us, you're gonna have a great time. :p

I'm pretty ashamed to say that I rented the game instead of buying it... I finished it in 5 days, but I really wanted to try Survivor mode... been quite a while since I've wanted to play a game twice in a row :D

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:00:18 PM

World- play on hard, and take it all in! Pretty amazing.

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booze925
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 5:47:40 PM
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Its shit like this that irks me about actors. They think they have exclusive rights to their specific facial structure and skin tone because they are "stars".
What these people don't understand is that, like us regular people, they are people. People look like other people, fictional or not, all the damn time. As rich as they might be, all of the rest of us have faces to.
Ego showing miss Page?
People like that man... If I resembled a character in "The Last of Us", I'd be thrilled!

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JROD0823
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 5:50:20 PM
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I thought she looked quite a lot like Ellen Page when the first bits of press started rolling out for The Last of Us, but after having played the final product, (AMAZING game, btw) I did notice that a lot more Ellie's facial feature more closely resembled Ashley Johnson more so than Ellen Page.

I think Naughty Dog did a fantastic job of mitigating the Ellen Page talk as much as they could with the changes they made, and without having to completely change their original vision.

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PC_Max
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 6:03:58 PM
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I think she does have the look of Ellen Page as well as the dialogue in game is similar to how she delivers it. Naughty Dog, if they altered the character model then its subtle. Whether they did or not the eyes are very much not Ellens but Snowdens.

Anyway, makes for good publicity for both the game and Ellen Page.

Keep Playing!

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 6:38:01 PM
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Maybe Nathan Fillion should be upset with Naughty Dog too. Yunno, for "ripping off his likeness" and all. He and Drake look awefully similar! Or perhaps he has more class than Ms. Page.

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DIsmael85
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 6:52:03 PM

I don't think Drake looks that much like Nathan Fillion at all. Way to out there sir.

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 7:03:36 PM

Actually it's not considering everyone and their mother was pulling for him to play Drake in a possible movie.

F-

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DIsmael85
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 8:16:20 PM

He has a good personality no doubt, but as far as looks and what not go I'd go with the guy from Hangover Bradley Cooper. He sounds uncanny like Nathan Drake.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 9:00:40 PM

Bradley Cooper would be a terrible Drake. Its Fillion all the way. Fire Fly Fillion FTW!

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Jawknee
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 9:50:55 PM

HA, yea, pretty boy Bradlly Cooper doesn't exactly strike me and the get yours hands dirty type of guy.

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DIsmael85
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:15:20 PM

Well it is all down to personal preference I suppose, Mr. Fillion just doesn't strike me as a Nathan Drake, though if there movie was done right I wouldn't care if he was cast as long as it was good. (By the way, imo, Firefly was a terrible series, I just had to get that out there.)

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 @ 1:28:04 AM

The only thing terrible about Firefly was Fox canceling it.

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Underdog15
Wednesday, June 26, 2013 @ 5:57:34 PM

DIsmael

BLASPHEMY!!!

Firefly is incredible. SO good. The only thing bad was it being cancelled, as it's already been said.

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tes37
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 6:49:30 PM
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I thought there was a slight resemblance when Naughty Dog first started showing The Last of Us. Since the changes, I don't think they look alike at all.

I'm a bigger fan of ND, so I hope she doesn't make a big deal out of this.

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DIsmael85
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 6:51:23 PM
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You know when I first saw the earlier trailer for The Last of Us I originally thought it was Ellen Page. I can see why some folks would make the assumption that it'd be her. I've watched a ton of her (Ellen Page) films and I love Ashley Johnson as well, she was awesome in the series The Killing, however, there is no doubt in my mind that she had/has to be a fan of Ellen Page as well, the similarities in characters are there whether some wish to believe it is or not. I respect both actresses as they both are very good at what they do. I honestly don't believe Ellen Page meant this in a snobbish way to get a backlash from rabid fanboys. I think she wants to clear up the assumption that folks have that she is in The Last of Us. Yes they sort of did rip off her likeness, not solely looks, but personality. Whether this was intentional or not is in the air, but some folks need to get off the hateraid and stop downing this actress. She has a right to say what she wants, just as Neil Druckmann has a right to tweet about it. :)

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dmiitrie
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 7:17:38 PM
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I don't understand all the flak being directed towards Page. If anyone doesn't see the resemblence, then fair enough, but I'd think that enough people have commented on it (more so before the alterations, obviously) that even if any particular person doesn't see it, that they'd have to admit that it's a thing. And for someone who makes her livelihood, in part, based on her appearance, it seems reasonable to me that she'd be miffed about it. Especially since she's involved with a competing product.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 9:11:00 PM

For one the competing product is from SCE, there should be more hush, hush on her part because of this.

Next wether Ellie and Page look alike or not, she went about it wrong and came off like a snob.

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dmiitrie
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 11:56:34 PM

Though they are both first party studios, ND and QD are separate developers: by definition, that makes them competitors. I wouldn't be surprised if David Cage and the guys from ND are on friendly terms, but that doesn't change the realities of their business.

If you want to call her a snob, or classless, or any of the other perjoratives that have been used here, more power to you. But please understand that people tend to take this stuff pretty seriously. EA had to obtain the rights from the various sport's leagues' Player's Associations to use the names and likenesses for their sports titles. They are also being sued currently by former college athletes for not having done the same for their college-based games. People on this very thread have either mistaken TLoU with B:TS because of the resemblance, or know people that have. You say that B:TS won't lose any sales, and you're probably right, but the potential for lost sales is hard to argue with.

Being snarky on the Internet may not have been the best way for Page to have handled things, as you've said, but, to reiterate, it comes off to me as though her complaint isn't entirely without merit. And since I don't think anybody here believes that ND did this intentionally or with malice, this is hardly the worst thing that could come of the situation.

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 @ 1:33:52 AM

EA did that to make money and paid a lot for it no other reason. Page said this because shes got eyes on her, no other reason. Shes accusing ND of something they never made her a part of.

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Gamer46
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 9:41:39 PM
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First thought I had when I saw this was snob. But I do wish from the beginning that Ellie's character model from the beginning had been what it is now because the final design doesn't have much resemblance to Page and Ashley Johnson would be getting all the credit she deserves for her excellent performance.

Still, there shouldn't be any of this silly controversy. I could understand if Naughty Dog hadn't changed the character design but they did and it's not like this is going to effect the sales of Beyond: Two Souls by the time it comes out. Page should've said nothing but that's not the way of most people in Hollywood.

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DIsmael85
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:18:52 PM

Page was on an AMA on reddit, and she answered how she felt. Everyone up in arms about her comment is honestly taking what she said way to serious. Her comment never stuck me as a jab toward our holy beloved Naughty Dog. She strikes me as a sarcastic person, not just in films, so it should be no surprise to anyone that she'd give a sarcastic joke about taking her likeness. Seriously folks, stop reading to deeply into this. Leave it to the "GAMERS" to take things one step too far.

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bigrailer19
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:42:10 PM

Not a jab at ND? Shes quite bluntly saying they "ripped off" her likeness.

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DIsmael85
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:52:05 PM

Again, Big, go read the reddit post and comments. Also, please folks go take a look at the original image for Ellie when it first appeared. Google that sucker. I've had friends and family both ask if that was Ellen Page (or the girl from Juno) when I was showing them The Last of Us. Not everyone is "elite" to be on the internet getting all the juicy details.

Also, the ripped off thing was her opinion. Is she seeking legal action against ND? Is she suing them? Answer those questions. Someone who makes a living off of their face can say this because it does look a little like her. Since she isn't going after them, it's no big deal. She'll probably end up playing the game and loving the hell out of it like everyone else.

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Gamer46
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 @ 12:36:00 AM

Just like she's entitled to her opinion and you're entitled to yours, I'm forutnately allowed to have mine as well and I think this was a snob move. Again, did the earlier character design look similar? Yes. Did Naughty Dog change it? Yes. Did they have Ashley Johnson out there for lots of interviews about her role and to help promote the game? Yes. It's not ND's fault people still make the connection. Now because of these comments all the hardwork that went into the game is completely discredited and it disgusts me. Instead of being known as an awesome game it's now 'that game that ripped off Ellen Page.' Butthurt? If you wanna say that go ahead, but I don't think there's anything wrong with wanting to see a developer and the people who worked hard to bring these characters to life get credit for an fantastic final product.

And because I'm a fair person, I don't even put all of this on Ellen Page. Where the heck was Sony's PR team? Surely somebody could've told right at the start there would be a problem. I forget exactly when each game was revealed, but something should've been done not too long after both games were known about. Now we have this mess that there is no way to damage control. I don't know if it will have an adverse effect on The Last of Us' sales, I think most who want it probably already bought it, but unfortunately it's damaged in the sense that again, those who know it's an awesome game will be drowned out in the sea of Ellen Page fans, who will never play it, but will certainly slam it. That does bother me.

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, June 25, 2013 @ 1:30:35 AM

If she was suing over this that would make her 5 times the snob she came off as. So im glad shes not cus that would be dumb.

The world is going to explode if we keep arguing about this.

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Kryten1029a
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 10:42:29 PM
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If you look at pictures of Ashley Johnson from about 1990-1995 then she did look a bit like Ellie.

http://www.listal.com/list/evolution-ashley-johnson

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TheCanadianGuy
Monday, June 24, 2013 @ 11:51:08 PM
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i think they altered the look enough so it doesn't look as much like her as it originally did. really i can only see a vague resemblance.

but at first glance it does kind'a for example my dad knows nothing about gaming but i told him one of the games i'm buying this year stars ellen page and the other day i get home with my copy of The Last of Us toss it on the table he looks at it and he's like. "oh so this is the one with ellen page its amazing how much they get it to look just like her!" lol i told him its not but.. yea so i see why alot of people could see it at first glance.

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Godslim
Thursday, June 27, 2013 @ 12:08:52 PM
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in her defense i did actually think the character was biased on her for a while till i found out it was not

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