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Gamers Are Being Hypocritical When Bashing "Insiders"

"Rumors aren't news...and yet, any reader who tells you they don't want to hear about rumors is lying to you."

This is what my editor told me when I first started working for the newspapers. Over time, I learned how to walk the fine line between delivering what people wanted, and what was allowed under the basic tenets of journalism.

The bottom line is that what people desire and how they believe journalists should act are often two different things. They can't stand to admit it, but it's still a fact. For instance, take the recent unpleasantness concerning game industry insider Ahsan Rasheed (aka "thuway"), which was summarized here and spilled out here. Yep, he was wrong concerning a closed-door demo of the new Uncharted and Naughty Dog even reprimanded him for the mistake.

A few things:

Of course insiders aren't always right. That should be obvious. It's why whenever we report on anything from one of these guys, it's either labeled as a rumor, or we remind the reader to take it with a grain of salt. Thing is, some of these tipsters are occasionally right, which means they're not always incorrect. This is why people are listening to them; any random dope can start saying things on social media. It doesn't make them seers and it doesn't mean anyone will pay any attention.

This leads me to my second point, and it relates to the blatant hypocrisy my editor described. The bottom line is that all those hot rumors by Rasheed and Shinobi got a lot of traction around the 'Net, which means people were clicking, and people were talking. You can't blow up forums and communities one minute, all excited about the prospect of that inside tip, and then condemn the tipster the next. Doesn't work that way, folks. If you really didn't want them to be tipping you, if you really didn't believe a word they said or wrote, you'd pay them no mind, yes?

But you do. You always do. You gave them the attention and the next time another huge tip makes headlines everywhere, bear in mind that you are responsible for generating the traffic and clicks. Especially in this industry, even the biggest real news often can't hold a candle to flaming hot rumors and tips, and that's not because sources report on them. Sources give you the straight news, too, and yet, you choose to pay the most attention to the rumors...therefore, when one of those tips is wrong, you really have no write to step on the soapbox. You really don't.

Tags: video game insiders, gaming insiders, gaming industry, gamers

6/11/2014 10:09:53 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (24 posts)

WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, June 11, 2014 @ 10:48:02 PM
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I wish people didn't read every gaming article as if their whole purpose in the world is to decide if the author did a good enough job for them to be taken seriously or if they should hate on them with all of their furor.

Discrediting your local gaming journalist because you don't like him is not proper community discussion.

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RangerofNight
Wednesday, June 11, 2014 @ 11:19:09 PM
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Well said, Ben.

While I think it's fair that Thuway was pointed out, I also think NaughtyDog should have pointed their fingers at Dualshockers, WorldsFactory and Gamepur for consistently giving the guy attention on whatever he said. The ONLY reason that guy is popular is because Dualshockers posts every word the dude says.

So while in this instance, ND was right to tell him to basically shut up already, they really should be on the case of the other sites that spread all of his junk, and sorry, but he's a straight up fanboy. He was sitting on Twitter today making a fool of himself trying to say it was only "xbox fans" yelling at him, which isn't the case.

Shinobi on the other hand has been right about literally everything he's "leaked" so far. That guy doesn't let the attention get to his head like Thuway.

I've reported on Insiders on the site I work on, but never Thuway. And I'm pretty damn sure Guissepe Nelva knows that half the shit Thuway said wasn't true, but reported on it anyways.

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Lunar_Miyuki
Wednesday, June 11, 2014 @ 11:33:47 PM
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well maybe if your gaming journalists weren't all stealing each others exact stories
you wouldn't have so much rage and hypocrisy
what i mean is 7 different sites report the same rumor then it's like telling the masses it's true no matter how you title it

this is what's fueling peoples rage so when 7 different sites that are all copying each others articles are wrong the original source is going to get bashed

then you have the balls to blame us after you ticked us off by reporting false info
ignorance is truly bliss

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Underdog15
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 12:28:51 AM

So what you're saying is that those 7 sites should all spread out rumors evenly among themselves? They should form a volunteer committee where they take new rumors, regardless of how fast the news needs to be delivered, and cast lots or discuss who should fairly get to post it? Based on what... who's turn it is? Who read the tweet first? Who clicked the "publish" button first?

Come on man... these sites are all in competition. If one posts it, the others need to look into that original source or site the source they are getting the info from and post it on their site so they can also generate traffic on the news. And no... before you start... you cannot just NOT post it. It does not work that way in today's technological age of advanced communication. There is no time to send out an investigative journalism to spend a few weeks uncovering the truth before publishing ANYTHING.

Gaming news sites aren't charity, man. They're businesses that need to earn a living and have a RESPONSIBILITY to generate revenue. Reporting this stuff HAS to happen.

Tell you what... bring this point up again once news and rumored information outside of gaming stops appearing in more than one newspaper in North America. I'm really not sure why you think gaming journalism should be held to a higher moral standard than every other form of journalism out there... The moral standard is to inform the reader that yes.... this is a rumor and came from a random guy named "proinzider24" and is not official media release. Because I, and yes, YOU, would be so damn bored of reading only media releases that come out a handful of times a quarter.

Talk about ignorance....

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 12:32:49 AM

Too stupid to reply to, sorry.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 12:59:28 AM

That's some point of view you've got my friend.

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Knightzane
Wednesday, June 11, 2014 @ 11:51:21 PM
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Well when you work where a ton of information is passed around like pizza, its hard for misinformation to spread around. It the line of work we work in.

Nothing is true, yet everything is permitted.

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trumpetmon65
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 12:26:54 AM
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good group of words.

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Beamboom
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 1:38:57 AM
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I'm sorry but you can't blame the readers for clicking on articles.

It's the publishers responsibility to check and consider the content they publish. It's *not* the readers responsibility to do so. We are (supposed to) trust the publisher on this.

It's the publisher who is responsible for generating traffic on their site, and unfortunately, sometimes that counts as more important than to check facts and do proper research.


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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 9:33:00 AM

I don't think it gets any clearer than putting "Rumor:" in the title. It's the dummy readers who choose to gloss over that word.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 9:35:56 AM

It is the reader's responsibility to select what they will to read, and what they will to write about in forums and communities. This has absolutely nothing to do with sources.

You're going to have to grasp the fact that the only way things happen in mass amounts is if the mass audience makes it happen. The publishers and journalists aren't "making" anything happen. In point of fact, they can't.

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Underdog15
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 11:22:21 AM

If you tell me it's a rumor and not an official announcement, that's all I need to know. I want to know what is being breathed throughout the industry I'm invested in.

As an active investor, I can tell you that what you are asking for, Beam, does NOT happen in any other industry nor does anyone with half a brain want that to be the case for industries they invest in. I can tell you right now... many investors would be extremely late to the punch if they only read official statements and news reports directly from the horses mouths.

It's just not realistic, and it's time to stop living in fantasy land. I know we're gamers, but come on... reality does exist. I promise.

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Lunar_Miyuki
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 5:28:46 AM
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you know there wouldn't be any rage if these buisnesses actual looked into the articles there copying and actually had the facts instead of just copying for hits on there site
oh wait that would take to much time and money to actually do but what can you expect from dishonest journalists

just like your castlevania LOS2 review you admitted you never finished the game in a later article so that tells me you copied and added your thoughts to somebody elses review

it's sad really and reviewers are supposed to finish a game before they make an opinion so all i see here is a guy that takes out his anger on readers and gives incomplete reviews and Copies other peoples articles

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 9:35:53 AM

Perhaps you could point us to all the great sites out there who do play all their games to completion before they review them?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 9:45:03 AM

"just like your castlevania LOS2 review you admitted you never finished the game in a later article so that tells me you copied and added your thoughts to somebody elses review"

That right there is what did it. The rest of your idiotic notions are your own; I can't stop you from being stupid. It's a free country.

I can, however, react to direct insults against me and this site. The fact that you even believe that makes me wonder why you come here at all; hence, I doubt you'll care that you're banned now.

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Underdog15
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 11:23:11 AM

oh man.... show me where I can find that 42 hour-a-day clock that would allow that to be possible...

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Temjin001
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 10:34:48 AM
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there's a reason grocery stores have racks of full color gossip mags and tabloids and stuff in every isle while legitimate news gets cheap b&w print constrained to a lone vending box.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 11:09:58 AM

I loved the half bat little boy

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KidPresentable
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 11:15:33 AM

I think thats because its easier to pick up a magazine, flip, and then put it back then having people unfolding newspapers and having ads fall out all over the place. Who knows, maybe you're on to something.

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KidPresentable
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 11:00:50 AM
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Why does blame need to be laid at the feet of either journalist or reader in this situation? Entertainment media and news always has had its share of rumors. We all want to know something before we are officially "supposed" to. Especially in movies. Casting, unannounced projects. But even if you read the article and write "it's probably not be true but it would be great if some of it was", as pretty much ALL of the readership here did,(kudos for not running rampant even amongst the most diehard) is that tantamount to a contract stating that we cant call bs when all supposed tips end up being complete BS? I dont get it

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Underdog15
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 3:41:26 PM

I think that's the point of the article, though... Don't blame anyone. The idea being that if you're going to get mad at news sources for writing about it, then don't feed the monster.

It's like complaining about your local politician only to then continue to vote for them anyways. Why would things change when we keep coming back for more?

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Mdash0009
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 1:27:42 PM
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I think the work you were looking for is "Hypercritical" =P

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Underdog15
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 3:39:11 PM

How so?

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PlatformGamerNZ
Thursday, June 12, 2014 @ 8:34:46 PM
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i'd like to say just for the record that this is not me i don't act like that and if i did then would feel really stupid so yeah. i take the rumour and say this would be cool but it isn't fact so untill it's confirmed it's nothing more than a grain of salt like you say thats all if it a grain of salt that might be nice for sec but it is not fact solid like a rock or something like that yeah.

happy gaming =)

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