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Students Flipping Out Over Destiny: You're In School, Yes?

So, the situation is as follows:

Due to network problems, some college students can't play the newly released Destiny. Bungie has acknowledged the issue but for most, that's not enough.

The "Centipede Error" occurs when college networks block access to servers, and students are basically losing their sh** over the conundrum. The backlash on Twitter is borderline disgusting as far as I'm concerned, but then again, it's indicative of the quality of university educations in the US these days, anyway. Now, I'm not saying they don't have a right to be upset. After all, they paid for a product and they want it to work.

But they're in school, right? They are currently attending institutions of higher learning, correct? This is supposed to be for the benefit of their future, right? It's not so their parents can pay fifty, sixty, seventy grand so the students can party and goof off for four years...? Hell, you can do that at home for free. There has got to be more pressing matters in your life right now, I would assume. Perhaps that's a bad assumption, though.

Hey, I understand; I went to college. There's not as much work to do during the first weeks of any given semester. But last I checked, even if you don't plan on doing any schoolwork, college is supposed to be a social experience, and there's nothing "social" about playing a video game online with strangers. Sorry, there just isn't. And if you've got nothing better to do than freak out and bitch about a video game that doesn't work, and you're sitting in a dorm room, you need to grow an imagination and get a life.

Tags: destiny, destiny college students, bungie

9/10/2014 9:26:00 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (53 posts)

Killa Tequilla
Wednesday, September 10, 2014 @ 10:40:18 PM
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"and there's nothing "social" about playing a video game online with strangers"

Uuhh... Sorry Ben. Destiny is a social experience.

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souljah92
Wednesday, September 10, 2014 @ 10:47:54 PM

If you have no life outside of a video game then maybe it is

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Killa Tequilla
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 12:35:44 AM

Doesn't change the fact

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 1:04:32 AM

No, it isn't.

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FatherSun
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 2:21:46 AM

Define "SOCIAL".

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 3:29:31 AM

Well it seems the word 'Social' has been abused in the last few years, I fear it every time I hear it, much like whenever I hear the word innovation in context to gaming - which usually leads to some gimmick I don't approve of. But yes, it seems social these days stands for a method of marketing where companies are deceptive and appear to be level with the consumer on a personal level, so they can form a bond and steal personal data from them. I love technology, but ever since it has become 'Social' I have had tremendous reservations.

But most of my experiences of MMO's are just people running around the world on their own completing quests as if they're on a leash - That was my experience with the Final Fantasy XIV beta. I'd say it is a more isolating experience than single-player games.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 8:59:55 AM

Even Skyrim was a social experience for me, i was able to make new friends in class who were talking about it and I spent more time with my best friend teaching him tricks and talking about our quests even though it wasn't multiplayer. With Destiny you can talk real time of course. Very social.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, September 10, 2014 @ 11:22:06 PM
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Playing with classmates is social cuz it gives you awesomeness to talk about.

Anywho, it is kind of funny. Living at college is a stupid idea in all cases anyway. Leads to bad things in every single case.

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JackieBoy
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 4:03:08 AM

You are so wrong man. It was one of the best times of my life.
Iguess you want to live with your mama untill end of your days.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 8:58:22 AM

You can have a house off campus. Collecting people in those dorms creates all that conflict, thievery, the alcohol poisoning and the rape.

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JackieBoy
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 10:25:54 AM

Ok that might be true for some coutries but where I lived and studied, there was no such thing like you mentioned. Guess the West influence didn't reach us yet.

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SaiyanSenpai
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 2:07:20 PM

World, I think your getting frat houses confused with dorms.

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matt99
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 5:46:40 PM

Living on campus was awesome, I met so many people and where I went it was a very safe campus (campus security would escort you anywhere on campus at night if you wanted). In my year there nothing bad came of it, in fact quite the opposite and I would say it is an essential part of the college/university experience and would highly recommend it to anyone. I I find it's off campus living that is more dangerous as those parties are unregulated and there is no campus security on your walk home.

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Deleted User
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 12:45:17 AM
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Old Man Dutka on another anti tech rant. Alright, people pull out your rolling hoops and whirly gigs. Seriously though, at the end of the day, no matter who purchased the game, it should have worked for them. Acti and Bungie crow about sales, they need to make sure everyone can experience their overhyped and destined ( pun intended) to be overrated offering.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 1:05:26 AM

There's nothing "anti-tech" about it.

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Underdog15
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 11:32:56 AM

lol

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Temjin001
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 1:42:53 AM
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Jeesh, Ben, you'd make for one strict crusty old college Dean =p

my university says videogame obsessions are the number one reason why students underperform or fail classes in our school. I suppose if students can't have their Destiny they'll just have to fail their classes with League of Legends... as they are already.

anyway, I'm looking at this nice 900 page textbook that arrived in the mail today for one of my courses that begins in a couple weeks. It's like the bible of OpenGL programming. One thing is for sure. Once I'm done with a long day of studying I'll look forward to the excitement of playing some Destiny before I call it night.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 11:33:10 AM

"my university says videogame obsessions are the number one reason why students underperform or fail classes in our school."

Unfortunately, that doesn't surprise me at all, but I'd be hesitant to use the word "obsessions."

And if it's considered "strict" to expect students to go to school when they're in school, we're all in very, very big trouble. ;)

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Banky A
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 2:11:49 AM
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Ya it's not social until you get a community together and play the people in person. That's where the magic happens.

Big reason I'm obsessed with the fighting scene.

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 3:30:43 AM
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I remember when I was at Uni I was blocked from playing my Playstation 3 online in the same manner. Though the only game I missed out on really was Little Big Planet, which I wasn't to fond of anyway to be fair.

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kraygen
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 3:58:55 AM
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Dear people of the world, when you buy something that must be played online, you should have figured out by now that it will often not work.

How many times have we seen games that had to be always online not working due to some kind of network issue, almost all of them, that's how many. Nothing new here.

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JackieBoy
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 4:01:14 AM
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So like what Ben? If you're in a college/school you are not allowed to play because you need to learn 24/7 "for your future"? Please. Sometimes I so much disagree with your text, that I want to smack ya :P

(Yeah I was playing extensively since I was 15y old, got thru all my economics studies, finished them 10y ago, have a full time job, wife and still playing extensively. No, not Destiny but loads of other games)

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Banky A
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 5:15:20 AM

Liiiar! You live in your car.

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JackieBoy
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 6:23:49 AM

There, there... (pating his back)

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Banky A
Friday, September 12, 2014 @ 4:56:12 PM

Innocent joke, never again.

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trumpetmon65
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 6:33:20 AM
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There are a lot of students out there and not all of those students need to study at the same time. As far as social interaction, playing a brand new game in your dorm with the door open will get a lot of onlookers and start conversations. I know this from experience. Then you have to remember that Thursdays and Fridays are the big party days (I use "party" as an all inclusive term for hanging out). The game hasn't even seen its first Thursday. So no worries Ben.

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Beamboom
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 8:08:42 AM
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Oh boy how old you sound on these rants, Ben. My granddad would nod in approval.

Even I, who need to go more than 20 years back in time to reach my student years, understand that students want to be able to do some gaming after school. Heck, what did I do those years myself? I gamed on my Amiga, of course!

I'd even go as far as saying "do it while you can, kids". When you get married with children you are darn lucky if you get like one hour gaming a week.


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JackieBoy
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 8:20:24 AM

Exactly my words!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 11:34:27 AM

Never said otherwise. I played a ton of games in college.

I said people REACTING like the world was ending is worrisome, because it sounds like their priorities are completely out of whack. Of course, college is great for screwing up a person's priorities for life, but whatever.

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SaiyanSenpai
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 2:17:20 PM

I played games while in college but I also missed out on a lot of games. I graduated in Aerospace Engineering and had to study. A LOT.

I would say Beam, that college is not the place to slack off, but also, all work and no play...well, you know the saying.

In Grade School, I had time but no money.
In college, I had no time and no money.
Now I have money but no time.

It's always something...

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MRSUCCESS
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 9:40:38 AM
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While I do understand what Ben is saying about Destiny or video games not being social -- we live in a social media age -- Instagram, online games, Facebook etc. -- a lot of us (not all) are trying to find friends through a screen whether it's a cell phone, computer or TV.

People and gamers alike find it EASIER to enjoy and share the things they like to do with other people when they necessarily don't have to see their face. I'm not defending the kids or college kids for what they're doing. I already graduated college and I'm not buying Destiny either, but this is the world we live in now.

The way I see it, this article is a way for Ben to vent and that's perfectly fine with me. Better than keeping that frustration inside.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 10:01:12 AM

I too think it's good to have the writer's personality come through, Ben also put his informed thoughts about fitness into a mental approach to the PS Move, which nobody else did.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 11:37:44 AM

That which is "easier" is not always "better." In fact, it's almost never better.

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Link_Jr
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 10:22:32 AM
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Ben, I have to totally disagree with you, for several reasons, some of which others have mentioned.

First, as previously mentioned, they paid the same price and you and I; therefore, they should have the same game with all access that we have. Secondly, yes, they are in school to learn, but are they not also allowed to relax and have some decompression time? I have two children in college and my instructions to them is that college is your job. I look at this as a time when they are developing the core traits of becoming responsible for themselves. I and their mother are no longer telling them what to do when; although, we will act as a silent partner and only step in if their choices get way out of bounds. So, to say that they are only at college to study and that's what they should be doing 24/7 is absurd. My son is an avid gamer, has been all of his life. Yet he balances this with his studies and social life and he has a 3.98 at a top five engineering university in the world. To not allow them the opportunity to figure out how to balance all of this now sets them up for failure in the future and does not treat them as adults, which they are or are developing into. Lastly, applying your theory to others not in school, one could say my job is what I should be focused on and I should not be playing games as it distracts from my job. Again, totally crazy.

Admittedly, many people have problems balancing this and it become obsessive to the point where it impacts their school/job and social life. These are the people that haven't mastered self discipline and self control. This is a learned skill and if not given the opportunity to learn at an early age when parents and other role models can influence this, the individual will struggle later in life to master it.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 11:36:38 AM

Nobody ever said they should be studying 24/7. I never even hinted at such a ridiculous notion.

Read my reply to Beamboom. And by the way, if you think people should learn self-discipline and self-control early on, that won't happen sitting in a room playing a video game for hours on end. I know that from experience.

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telly
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 10:32:00 AM
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There's no question college was the one brief (four years, give or take) window where I didn't keep up with the video game joneses nearly as much as I did before or since. I played, of course, but I in fact made a point to not even bring a TV with me to the dorm freshman year to make sure a) I was wholly undistracted as I got started hitting the books full force and b) would not be tempted to stay in with video games instead of socialize, do campus activities, etc. And it worked great! I did well my first semester, made some good friends, got a big role in a school play, partied in my free time and studied hard.

I think it was either toward the end of the semester or maybe at the end, near Christmas, when I finally felt comfortable getting a TV and bringing down my brand new Dreamcast (this dates me a bit, doesn't it :) And you know what? Soul Calibur was freaking awesome. Resident Evil: Code Veronica is one of the better RE games, scary as hell. But there's no question I didn't have nearly as much fun second semester as I did during the first. Grades were fine, but the social life took a hit.

That's the thing about college: you simultaneously have a TON of free time, probably more than you'll have at any point in your life until retirement. But if you're serious about your studies (and taking real classes and not just coasting) you need to spend nearly all of it hitting the books. Then you have a choice -- do you want to make friends, meet potential romantic partners, make memories that will last a lifetime in this once in a lifetime experience? Or do you want to sit in a tiny room staring at a screen playing games that will absolutely still be there over winter vacation, summer break, and after you graduate? In my experience, there's not time to do it all. And frankly, if I could do it again? I'd get out and socialize MUCH more and leave the games for later.

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Underdog15
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 11:38:16 AM
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Our university tried to block online gaming by making everyone's NAT restrictions tight. Prevented all P2P anything though.... even if we wanted to share assignments through the network. (IT there sucked) I ran the website for the university school paper and had access to updating links on the school website... got lucky by testing it out and finding that it was the same user name and password for the network admin, so I changed my dorm's NAT settings to open and played away! lol!

That was the PS2 days, so there wasn't really good online console gaming on PS, but we did play a lot of Halo and some PC games. I found it annoying that they would block me from playing at nighttime even... that's my time.

Of course, undergrad work is a joke, anyways. As long as you do the work and go to class, you'll be fine. I never did much work, and I'm lucky enough that I can memorize most stuff by seeing it and hearing it at the same time. So I got all B's and A's just by going to class and doing assignments. Never really had to study for exams.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 11:39:58 AM
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The lack of reading comprehension or perhaps the ridiculous assumptions made by readers of this article is a little concerning.

Nowhere did I say they should be studying 24/7. How does, "you're in school so maybe you shouldn't be threatening to kill yourself because a video game doesn't work" come across as anything besides common sense and logic?

Why are you defending something that was never attacked in the first place?

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souljah92
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 2:25:11 PM

Maybe you should realize people like to vent about little things and how they feel on these social networks kind of like you do in some of these articles

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Shauneepeak
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 2:38:06 PM
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That is a VERY bad assumption. Most people I know myself included are paying for our OWN college/Uni and we usually only have Homework/Essays once or twice a week and besides midterms and finals you usually don't get tests so there isn't much studying to do. So what else are they gonna do with all that free time if they don't have Destiny they'll probably just do stupid stuff.

Also nothing social about Destiny? You realise how many people Bought Destiny right? There are probably 100+ people in a single Dorm building with it so maybe they aren't all playing with strangers?



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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 3:01:32 PM

I agree that playing a game is indeed a much safer and even more productive way to spend your time in college, as opposed to drinking and doing drugs and in general, acting like a moron. I'm with that.

But it was hardly the point of the article.

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souljah92
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 5:52:59 PM

Not everyone that drinks and smokes weed acts like a moron, hell i do that with my friends weekly but it doesn't mean i don't prioritize my assignments, it's all about self control unless you're one of those losers that just watch the "cool kids" have fun and judge them behind closed doors

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 9:28:44 PM

If you drink and smoke pot weekly, I reserve the right to call you a moron. Yes, I do.

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souljah92
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 10:01:47 PM

That's your opinion, whatever helps you sleep at night loser

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Link_Jr
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 3:54:55 PM
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"And by the way, if you think people should learn self-discipline and self-control early on, that won't happen sitting in a room playing a video game for hours on end. I know that from experience. "

Sure they will, albeit the hard way. ;)

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DemonNeno
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 4:27:33 PM
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I'm confused here... Why is it Bungie at fault for a school's limited access to the net? Maybe they don't want their bandwidth hogged by gamers so that others can use it for school related matters?

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Shauneepeak
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 4:53:15 PM

It isn't Bungie's fault but the fact is Dorm internet is paid for by EACH student to do with as they please, long as it is legal. Students on my campus pay $200 EACH for Dorm internet per semester and should be able to play games.

There are other areas with already limited net like the Library the campus center and we even have an old Colonial house on campus which is a quiet study area.

If students weren't paying out the ass for their dorms I would say fine but as it is now Dorms cost about twice as much as a nice apartment.

My college JUST started doing this limited internet for game consoles so you can understand why people would be PISSED seeing as the students themselves are paying for it.

Again if the internet was free I would say tough luck but paying your own money is another thing.

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matt99
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 5:52:09 PM
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Oh come on, video games can be social. Hasn't anyone played the mario kart drinking game? We had tournaments at my Uni.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 9:29:38 PM

Ah, but that's hardly the same thing. Playing games with other people ACTUALLY THERE is entirely different from sitting alone in a room and communicating via headset.

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Axe99
Thursday, September 11, 2014 @ 9:52:50 PM
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I'm not sure about this one. Students should study, sure, but it's not like studying means you lose all your rights to free time and hobbies. I studied plenty, socialised plenty, played a good amount of sport _and_ squeezed in some gaming when I was at Uni (College in Australia). Í don't think students should be allowed to play games on uni internet, but by the sound of it, they're being refused access to a game they're playing in their free time on internet they've paid for. If that's not Big Brother coming down hard on students nothing is.

Of course, they should keep it in perspective, first world problems and all that, but I'd say they have a right to be disappointed at the very least.

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Rachet_JC_FTW
Friday, September 12, 2014 @ 12:23:20 AM
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yeah thatey sud get out more if they are staying asight i mean got see a movie or get soe food witha group of friends but if u have to play games atleast do it with other people and not in ur room thats for after tha day is over and ur chill at night time for that.

happy gaming

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Rachet_JC_FTW
Friday, September 12, 2014 @ 12:26:49 AM
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i mean i'm in the process of finishing my uni/coloege engineering degree atm and its certainly no all fun and games more work than play i usually only get to play 1 or 2hrs if i'm lucky a day which sucks but i working towards a better future so yeah i get u want the thing to work but u got more improtant things to work about i know this cos i sat out the design launch i mean i didn't have to but it was for the better and the other side is my dad would have flipped out if i did i'm still at home cos i am at uni near my place 3omin dirve so that is y i'm bringing the parents into it but come on get on with ur study thats what ur there for seriously

anyways rant over

happy gaming

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surfer
Saturday, September 13, 2014 @ 9:04:29 AM
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Nothing wrong with playing video games. It is all about managing time and priorities...a vital life skill that college kids need to learn.

Life is about choices.

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