Analyst: New Generation In Two Years
Eventually, we're going to have to stop calling the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and Wii "next-generation consoles" because before too long, a whole new generation will be upon us (time travels fast, friends). And according to GameSpot and Pacific Coast Securities' Evan Wilson, we can expect that next generation to kick off in 2010.
Wilson was talking about EA's ambitious revenue predictions, and then he moved into his expectations for the new set of consoles that will become available in due time. He thinks Nintendo will launch theirs first (presumably, in 2010), followed by Microsoft a year later...but interestingly enough, Wilson made no mention of a PlayStation 4. He moved on to say the next set of Nintendo and Sony portables will drop in 2010 as well, although he didn't specify whether he was talking about whole new systems or just new versions of the DS and PSP. But getting back to the consoles, does it strike anyone else as a little strange that Wilson picked 2010? That's only two years off, after all, and perhaps the reason he didn't mention the PS4 is because Sony keeps saying the PS3 is at the start of a 10-year life cycle.
So if he's correct, it means we'll see something like the Xbox 720 or the Wii2 in a couple years time, and the PS3 will just continue along for another six years? Wouldn't Sony be more inclined to produce another competing system earlier? Well, we know the PS3 hasn't fully realized its exceedingly high potential, so perhaps the PS3 is capable of producing software on par with Xbox 720 titles. Oh well, we'll have to see what transpires over the next few years...and the waiting is half the fun.
5/9/2008 Ben Dutka
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SHADOW [Moderator]
Friday, May 09, 2008 @ 11:03:56 PM
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I think a new portable generatin starting in about 2010 (maybe even 09) sounds about right.
ThePoetRazel
Friday, May 09, 2008 @ 11:07:39 PM
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Tatsujin
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 1:00:44 AM
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Just look how long it took for games to go from PS2/Xbox 1 material to PS3/XBox360 material... And well, NES didnt really make a diffrence if you ask me...
Ed_Wayne
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 7:03:42 AM
I wouldn't doubt it if Microsoft had a new system out in November 2010.
PS4 will come no later than November 2012. 6 year cycle has worked so far.
And as for Nintendo, I couldn't give a rats ass. The last thing they put out that I liked was SNES. Now, if I want a Nintendo system I have to play it by wacking off a Wiimote while playing some uninspired shovelware mini-game collection complete with graphics that were state of the art in 2001.
Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:08:53 AM
Fabi
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 2:12:19 AM
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Games are extremely expensive to make nowadays, and take between 2-4 years to be made. The really good ones seem to take about 3-4.
If they take that long to make in this generation, imagine how long they would take in the next, and how expensive they would be to make. It's way too early to dump the current consoles, at least for the PS3 and 360.
Minishmaru
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 8:21:24 AM
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orangpelupa
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 9:19:35 AM
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The next next-gen really need some new idea. Some revolution.
Like controlling game with your movement or just like in .hack series or YUREKA / ID_ENTITY.
If the next next-gen only boast better graphic, sound. . .
PC already surpass that.
PC graphic, sound, etc already surpass console many levels.
The next next-gen gaming console need new idea. Revolution.
Not just nintento revolution (wii) but a REAL revolution.
ThePoetRazel
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 2:07:38 PM
I bought my PS3 before the first price cuts, and yet my middle range PC cost more. If i wanted to play the latest PC games i would have to shell out enough cash to buy all 3 consoles easily. And then again a couple of years later.
When a PC games developer makes a game they have to decide on the minimum PC requirements. Too low and the game is not good enough quality to sell, too high and not enough people will be able to play it for it to sell.
Consoles on the other hand have identical specs (at least, in relation to requirements for playing games) and so i only need buy a single console of a type.
As for revolution. I don't think we don't need some fancy new gadget or big change. I think we just want the best gaming experience that current tech offers. If there is no new thing that gives me a better gaming experience, then i'll take enhanced graphics, audio and gameplay over flashy bells and whistles any day.
Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:11:47 AM
Cavan
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 9:50:22 AM
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Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:13:09 AM
Arnon
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 5:20:54 PM
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As for the PS3's side. I highly doubt they're considering making a new console anytime soon. The PS3's hardly been out. Not only that, but the developers haven't even made the games they've wanted to yet for it. Sony would only look at a money loss if they considered releasing a system in the next few years.
Nintendo I can see releasing a system quite easily. The Wii has been great but, I see them wanting to jump ahead and start competing with the 360 and the PS3.
Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:14:07 AM
Arnon
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 5:44:22 PM
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Most of the people today actually build their PC's. Which is an extreme price cut from just buying one.
The end result of this is, most PC's out there outperform the gaming consoles.
Reccaman18
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 6:47:54 PM
Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:15:09 AM
Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:15:39 AM
chinchillables
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 3:06:09 PM
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Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 10:17:11 PM
Gotta understand people, video game development is a lot harder, needs more work, needs more time and is now one of the leading entertainment, which means that most developers are turning to Quality over Quantity.(Not EA though, They still the same)
Asking developers to produce games at a much faster rate than it is now, impossible. Once agian, video game development is not what it use to be.
And saying this generation will end 2011-2012 is false.
Look at it this way, Consoles have just broke through into a new era, the HD. To say that the consoles after X360, Ps3 and Wii are "next-gen" Is just stupid, because there will be absalutly no diffrence in terms of performance, grahics, development and video games themselves. Everything will pretty much, be the same.
So when you say Next-Gen, your saying something that is break-through (Which all the big 3 have done) And believe me... we arn't having another major break-through in major technologies in a long time...
And, let's say MS and NES do release 2 other systems, the chances of them beasting the PS3 is lit. 1%, because MS and Wii would have to
A) Match up with PS3
B) Have everything a PS3 has (Blu-Ray, Processing power etc...)
C)Be cheap (Impossible if they want to beast PS3)
and D) Make sure they provide some hard, nice new features and graphics, something that will make someone say "Oh, wow" not "Hey... This is the same as the last console"
I think ive talked enough, theres more to this but I need to do my HW now :(
SadSadSamus
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 1:31:51 AM
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dont be retarded. lit. 1% What!?
OBVIOUSLY the next box is gonna kick the shiza out of the ps3, in terms of power.
Do you not understand the whole concept of next-gen?
Sure, great, the ps3 is the dogs bollucks... ok... get over it.
Do you really think 256 vid and 256 system ram is going to hold up forever? gddr3... whatever... it's just not gonna hold a candle to the, most likely, 2gigs, or so, of nextbox ram. Be serious. Do you really think Macro is retarded enough to develop their next system to not STOMP?
Thats what these guys do.
Dont you remember when the current gen was ludicrous to us all? Do you really think it wont happen again?
Cost isnt even a factor here. its NEXT-GEN, man!
By the cost logic you could argue that the ps2 is competeing with the 360...
it isnt... it cant... only to the broke is that even a question. And even to them its a stupid question. I know. I am one of them.
Anyways, quit being a fanboy. It's SONY. a MASSIVE corporation. Good, you like their wares. I like games to. Thats why i have an xbox. I still don't hold alegance to Macro. Why would I? They just want my money. Like Sony. They have games for their system. Like Sony. Awesome. They get some money. I get GTA4 n such. Happy days. They still dont give a crap about me. Just like Sony does not give a crap about you, save your wallet.
Welcome to business.
You wouldent pledge allegence to a record company just because they put out music you like. Why is this any different?
I know... 'Lets all jizz over videogames! Lets all diss the competators of the console we prefer/have the money to buy! Lets all talk about how our chosen console is superior for xy and z reasons! Mine is more powerful! I am not a programmer and don't know what im talking about!'
Forget that crap. I'm not 9, anymore.
Sega Genesis was so 1992.
Not that I dont like some games for it, though.
Sega is sweet.
Anyways, theres my rant. Dont be a fanboy of corporations.
Enjoy the fruits of their, the workers, labors and be glad that capitalism has afforded us the competition so that companies always have to 1up each other.
Just dont be a sheep about it.
By the way, I am a fan of the DEVELOPERS. You know, the little man getting paid to produce this stuff. The actual people who just might care about you, as a person, because they are not a faceless brand name.
God bless 'em!
Now... get to work on my extra GTA content!
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 4:11:15 PM
And yea, Everyone wants to buy an Xbox everyother 3-4 years, I love spending my money that way :)
I didn't even bother to read all the shit you posted.. because most of it is shit. I skimmed through most of it though, and I want you to know that im happy for you... I wish I can jizz all over my video games...You must be a strong man :( Allz I got is this nice lady to jizz over, man.. you must be the luckiest guy on earth :*(
And... Nothing of what you just said makes sense... Your a fanboy hun, not me... Ive fucked both systems, if thats how you call playing... (Obviously, you jizz on your CD's =/ ) And I find the PS3 stronger, better and more worth my dollar than the X360.
And enjoy that exclusive content babe :) You honestly think R* would leave a growing user database such as the PS3's? I don't think so :)
All about the money.
And Honestly, I have no fucking idea where you get the impression that I think Sony cares about us, because I never even talked about it... But sense you brought it up...
Well, Sony does provide nice service for us, Geez... I wonder if ill ever get my Xbox 360 back after I sent it in to M$ for repair after the RRoD, Oh wait... I have to buy a new one, it's unreparable :*(
You know... Everything you said was just flat-out stupid... I don't even wanna defend myself agianst you, I can't... No seriously, I can't argue with such an idiotic person :( Sorry mate.
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 4:36:39 PM
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 4:42:16 PM
So with that said, A Wii is for more of those "lets just have fun" typ of people. Which is everyone... And A PS3 is for those "GOD DAMIT, I SHOT HIM I TELL YOU! HE LAGGED!" Typ of people, with some Blu-Ray on the side haha.
NetheRealm
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 8:45:42 AM
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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 4:45:25 PM
Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:06:02 PM
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It's a fact, that the next set of consoles will be better than these... otherwise they wouldn't make them.
There's already tech out there far superior to the current consoles that are out.
Disc drives that have discs holding up to 50 Terabytes... Processors that have well over 8 cores... considering a computer can have as many cores as it wants to.
The next gen consoles will be, in no way, the same. They will blow these out of the water.
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:56:46 PM
And if im not mistaking, The PS3 is the first, and only form of computing power to hold 8 total cores. Do your homework hun, you won't get no where in life like this :)
And yes, the next-gen WILL blow these systems out of the water, but it wont happen anytime soon, and that's including 2010, 2012 (Maybe) but I doubt it, 2014-2016 sounds about right.
Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:11:37 PM
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R* is a money driven company... they don't care about which system their game is on, as long as they can obtain a profit.
If Sony is gonna get exclusive content, they're gonna have to pay probably the same amount as MS did.
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:43:57 PM
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:46:17 PM
Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:14:31 PM
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Most likely $2000. I don't believe that you're teacher brought a $2000 PS3 to school to show you the inside of a planet rofl.
Scientists do use the PS3's >MOTHERBOARD< for stuff... they switch around components and etc. etc... but in no way use the PS3 itself for scientific research.
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:50:28 PM
And for your info, It cost my teacher a total of $800 dollars. I said it was an emulation of the view or "feel" inside other planets, not a god damn emulation of how the universe started from day one.
And modifing a PS3 to do diffrent things is much diffrent than using the PS3's components for differnt systems.
I think now, we know who is really talking out of their ass, don't we? :)
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:04:10 PM
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:49:39 PM
Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:22:52 PM
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What people have stated is fact. You have stated opinion because I doubt you've even looked at what's in store in the next few years.
The PS3 is by far nothing new. Same with the 360, and Wii... look it up, and stop talking out of your ass.
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:47:26 PM
evilweasl55
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:07:17 PM
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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:11:54 PM
Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:07:34 PM
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The tech in the next gen systems is NOTHING... literally NOTHING new.
It only looks new because they're in a completely different console. Laa dee daa.
And yes... you do blow people off... you're never nice to anyone who has an opinion, and you make them look immature. I already know you're like "That's cause they are!" But no, they're not. The fact that you call people names is pretty sad. You're like what... 17? Same age as me, and yet, I've stated harder facts than you have in both of these arguments.
Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:13:11 PM
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The fact that there's already discs in dev. that can hold that much is insane, it throws blu-ray away.
There's already RAM that has up to 1 TB or more.
Not only that but then there's the graphics card NVIDIA dual 8800x which is by far more superior than the ones in the current consoles.
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:34:15 PM
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And no one said anything about the sun exploding :P.
And for the Terabytes, for Discs to hold TB, ive never heard of it, theoretcially I have, but not in reality. And yes, Ram is very likly to reach 1 TB within the next few years, I dont doubt that at all. But to say that there are discs that can hold 50 TB is outragouse, especially after Blu-Ray is taking over as the official Format (sorry DVD)
Now, You have states some good facts, but I also have stated some good facts. The only way to see what happens is to wait untill the water boils down to the end.
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:51:21 PM
But im just trying to point out that Blu-Ray is the next solid format just as DVD was, and HVD and PCD would also have to go through all the work that Blu-Ray went through to claim perfection (A very, very long time Sony's been working on it) And it would also be very, very expenisve for the public ATM, Just look at a BR players -_-'
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 7:25:26 PM
Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 7:43:02 PM
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It had more capacity
and It was more flexible (In terms of programing such as BD Live etc...) than HD-DVD
Plus, People just loved it.
The idea of having DVD in the name, like Toshiba did (HD-DVD) was a nice idea b/c people will say, Hey, DVD... I know this one. To where as What? Blu-Ray? Never heard of it.
But still, Blu-Ray beasted HD-DVD. And HD-DVD and Blu-Ray where in production for quit a loooong time.
Jdogtoocool
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 @ 10:08:47 PM
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Tatsujin
Thursday, May 15, 2008 @ 10:03:30 PM
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