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Analyst: New Generation In Two Years

Eventually, we're going to have to stop calling the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and Wii "next-generation consoles" because before too long, a whole new generation will be upon us (time travels fast, friends). And according to GameSpot and Pacific Coast Securities' Evan Wilson, we can expect that next generation to kick off in 2010.

Wilson was talking about EA's ambitious revenue predictions, and then he moved into his expectations for the new set of consoles that will become available in due time. He thinks Nintendo will launch theirs first (presumably, in 2010), followed by Microsoft a year later...but interestingly enough, Wilson made no mention of a PlayStation 4. He moved on to say the next set of Nintendo and Sony portables will drop in 2010 as well, although he didn't specify whether he was talking about whole new systems or just new versions of the DS and PSP. But getting back to the consoles, does it strike anyone else as a little strange that Wilson picked 2010? That's only two years off, after all, and perhaps the reason he didn't mention the PS4 is because Sony keeps saying the PS3 is at the start of a 10-year life cycle.

So if he's correct, it means we'll see something like the Xbox 720 or the Wii2 in a couple years time, and the PS3 will just continue along for another six years? Wouldn't Sony be more inclined to produce another competing system earlier? Well, we know the PS3 hasn't fully realized its exceedingly high potential, so perhaps the PS3 is capable of producing software on par with Xbox 720 titles. Oh well, we'll have to see what transpires over the next few years...and the waiting is half the fun.

5/9/2008 Ben Dutka

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Comments (64 posts)

WaR_HaWk
Friday, May 09, 2008 @ 10:20:08 PM
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there will be a ps4 probably, but it would be expensive, and right now the US economy is falling apart so not everyone is going to have money for a new system which will cost probably 400-1000 $

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Friday, May 09, 2008 @ 11:03:56 PM
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In theory the new generation should start in 2011 or 2012. That would be 5 or 6 years after this one started. But this generation is strange. There are no real losers. All three companies are making money (even Sony now I believe). This in theory should extend this generation because nobody has a major monetary incentive to jump to a new console. But you also have the Wii situation. The Wii is incredibly popular with the casual community but is quickly fallin further and further out of style with the hard core crowd. I can fully see Nintendo releasing a second console not neccessarily to replace the Wii but to compete more fully with the PS3 and 360.
I think a new portable generatin starting in about 2010 (maybe even 09) sounds about right.

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ThePoetRazel
Friday, May 09, 2008 @ 11:07:39 PM
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I think the PS4 will drop at about 3/4 of the PS3's lifetime. The other console maker's economic strategy seems to be more on getting a new product out as soon as possible and take advantage of the fans of the current system. But Sony's seems more to be the "take care of your customers and they'll take care of you" approach. Which is why i prefer Sony to the others by far.

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Tatsujin
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 1:00:44 AM
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Well, This is all wrong here folks... First off, a new generation would have to boast so many improved things such as visuals etc... And guys... The "Next-Gen" Has just begun... So to say that the "Other Next-Gen" is just around the corner is ridiculouse. If you ask me, sure Xbox and NES will release new systems..BUT! They will not be classified as next Gen. I believe the true 'Next'Next-Gen is around 2014-2016 in between.

Just look how long it took for games to go from PS2/Xbox 1 material to PS3/XBox360 material... And well, NES didnt really make a diffrence if you ask me...

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Ed_Wayne
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 7:03:42 AM

The next generation won't start in 2014-2016. Microsoft put out Xbox in 2001. Xbox 360 came out in 2005. 360 is considered next gen. Catch my drift?

I wouldn't doubt it if Microsoft had a new system out in November 2010.

PS4 will come no later than November 2012. 6 year cycle has worked so far.

And as for Nintendo, I couldn't give a rats ass. The last thing they put out that I liked was SNES. Now, if I want a Nintendo system I have to play it by wacking off a Wiimote while playing some uninspired shovelware mini-game collection complete with graphics that were state of the art in 2001.

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Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:08:53 AM

Alright... Is it just me or is it too early for a Next-Gen? I mean, how good could the graphics look from this Gen? I mean new features yes... But, how diffrent could one system be from a system that just broke into a whole new era? You know? If you ask me, the next set of consoles wont be next-gen at all... Theyll just be an improved console from their previouse consoles. X720 wont be no diffrent than X360, and Ps3 wont be no diffrent from Ps4. Improvements yes, new features yes... But major improvments (Ex. PS2 to PS3) No way. Look how long it took Sony to get PS3 out... MS probably isnt going to do the same stupid mistake and release another Xbox too early because hell, itll just kill the console.

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Fabi
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 2:12:19 AM
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I dunno, things have changed so much. It's not like before when devs could easily make a game for a single console and make money.

Games are extremely expensive to make nowadays, and take between 2-4 years to be made. The really good ones seem to take about 3-4.

If they take that long to make in this generation, imagine how long they would take in the next, and how expensive they would be to make. It's way too early to dump the current consoles, at least for the PS3 and 360.

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Minishmaru
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 8:21:24 AM
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Lol are you kidding me?!? With how much effort/money it took them to get to where they are now and to ditch their current systems to offer a new one...ridiculous! It cost alot for the 360 and the PS3...why would they bring out a replacement in that short of time? I know I'm not ready to shell out another $600 bucks or more for a PS4. The only one I see being plausible is Nintendo since they are known for new models every year or something to that degree. Maybe Microsoft is going to abandon their console again just to get ahead with a "next-gen" console...they did that before with the xbox wouldn't shock me.

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orangpelupa
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 9:19:35 AM
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Gaming console is the same for all these generation.

The next next-gen really need some new idea. Some revolution.
Like controlling game with your movement or just like in .hack series or YUREKA / ID_ENTITY.

If the next next-gen only boast better graphic, sound. . .

PC already surpass that.
PC graphic, sound, etc already surpass console many levels.

The next next-gen gaming console need new idea. Revolution.

Not just nintento revolution (wii) but a REAL revolution.

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ThePoetRazel
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 2:07:38 PM

PC's don't have better graphics and audio. Top of the range PC's do. And how many people do you think have a PC capable of playing the latest games to their full potential? Not many.
I bought my PS3 before the first price cuts, and yet my middle range PC cost more. If i wanted to play the latest PC games i would have to shell out enough cash to buy all 3 consoles easily. And then again a couple of years later.

When a PC games developer makes a game they have to decide on the minimum PC requirements. Too low and the game is not good enough quality to sell, too high and not enough people will be able to play it for it to sell.

Consoles on the other hand have identical specs (at least, in relation to requirements for playing games) and so i only need buy a single console of a type.

As for revolution. I don't think we don't need some fancy new gadget or big change. I think we just want the best gaming experience that current tech offers. If there is no new thing that gives me a better gaming experience, then i'll take enhanced graphics, audio and gameplay over flashy bells and whistles any day.

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Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:11:47 AM

Poet is right... PC video games are being abondoned haha

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Cavan
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 9:50:22 AM
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i only think micrsoft will be looking for a new system soon, to fight back against the ps3 once it starts to dominate, also they will have to, everyones 360 would of rrod by then and everyone 3 yr warrenty would of ran out so they will need a new reliable system, with evryone built in hard drives, wifi, bluray all built into it, they will try n class it off as the next generation when really that system will just be the catch up one to the ps3, where as it stands i believe is still slightly ahead of its time.

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Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:13:09 AM

Yea, Your probably right, they will want another system like the PS3 but... It's going to cost as much as the Ps3 did when it first came out, thus... no one would buy it. And PS3 would have killed 2 of Xboxs systems within about 4 year lifespam, which really sucks for M$

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Arnon
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 5:20:54 PM
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Microsoft will most likely release a new console by 2011 or so. At the moment they're in development for 2 new models of the 360. Each of which will completely eliminate the previous problems the 360 has faced(RROD, noise, overheating).

As for the PS3's side. I highly doubt they're considering making a new console anytime soon. The PS3's hardly been out. Not only that, but the developers haven't even made the games they've wanted to yet for it. Sony would only look at a money loss if they considered releasing a system in the next few years.

Nintendo I can see releasing a system quite easily. The Wii has been great but, I see them wanting to jump ahead and start competing with the 360 and the PS3.

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Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:14:07 AM

Development of a new console is undoubtable... They could be working on it right now, but when will it be released? Just look at the time they took to get Ps2 to PS3. You know?

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Arnon
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 5:44:22 PM
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As for Razel's comment about the PC not being on top. That's completely false. The PC does by far, surpass any gaming console ever made(Considering they were all made from a PC).

Most of the people today actually build their PC's. Which is an extreme price cut from just buying one.

The end result of this is, most PC's out there outperform the gaming consoles.

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Reccaman18
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 6:47:54 PM

yeah, and the PS3 just has probably one of the best graphics chips you can buy. And if I am not mistaken, the PS3 version of Oblivion looks and plays better than the 360 and PC versions. PCs don't dominate like they used to. They may have a slight edge in graphics, but you'd have to look real hard to see it.

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Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:15:09 AM

haha, Guys... Give it up, Honestly the PC is not the dominator anymore, the Consoles are. PC is good yes, but Consoles are MADE to play video games... MADE.

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Arnon
Saturday, May 10, 2008 @ 11:10:16 PM
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Actually the PS3's Graphic card is outdated. It has a good processor though.

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Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:15:39 AM

Yes, it is outdated... But I wouldnt wanna buy a $800 Ps3, You know? Plus if you ask me... The Ps3 dosnt really need a better graphic card, because every game made on PS3 (Not ported, made) Looks a lot better than the X360's and PC... And Wii (Did I really have to say that one?)

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Effi
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 4:10:23 AM
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yes the ps3 grahics chip isnt on par with pc... wait..i meant isnt on par with the 20% of the pc market. everybody else is using intel integrated extreme powerful awesom-o graphics.

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Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 11:16:58 AM

Yea, I dun even know what you jus said =/

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Arnon
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 1:29:43 PM
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Same :x

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chinchillables
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 3:06:09 PM
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PS3 might be outdated as far as the card stuff goes, but still looks better than the majorit of other systems out there. I really believe they should concentrate more on the games themselves rather than keep trying to make the strongest parts they can then turn around and never maximize their potential. All the unneccessary research cost US money when these systems come out. Not to mention idiots having to have them first, which drives the cost ridiculous. Hype, everyone wants, priced $1000 system. Everyone buys, stays expensive. People stop buying, no choice but to drop prices. If nobody at all bought a game system the first week it's released, the prices would be slashed something awful... Think about this.



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Arnon
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 5:24:45 PM
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I agree... but I think they need to speed up their process of generating games. This generation for the other consoles will probably end in 2011/2012. And that will only lead to the other 2 surpassing the PS3.

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Tatsujin
Sunday, May 11, 2008 @ 10:17:11 PM

What you just asked the developers to do is like asking NASA to send people onto the moon and into space day after day.

Gotta understand people, video game development is a lot harder, needs more work, needs more time and is now one of the leading entertainment, which means that most developers are turning to Quality over Quantity.(Not EA though, They still the same)

Asking developers to produce games at a much faster rate than it is now, impossible. Once agian, video game development is not what it use to be.

And saying this generation will end 2011-2012 is false.

Look at it this way, Consoles have just broke through into a new era, the HD. To say that the consoles after X360, Ps3 and Wii are "next-gen" Is just stupid, because there will be absalutly no diffrence in terms of performance, grahics, development and video games themselves. Everything will pretty much, be the same.

So when you say Next-Gen, your saying something that is break-through (Which all the big 3 have done) And believe me... we arn't having another major break-through in major technologies in a long time...

And, let's say MS and NES do release 2 other systems, the chances of them beasting the PS3 is lit. 1%, because MS and Wii would have to
A) Match up with PS3
B) Have everything a PS3 has (Blu-Ray, Processing power etc...)
C)Be cheap (Impossible if they want to beast PS3)
and D) Make sure they provide some hard, nice new features and graphics, something that will make someone say "Oh, wow" not "Hey... This is the same as the last console"

I think ive talked enough, theres more to this but I need to do my HW now :(

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SadSadSamus
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 1:31:51 AM
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yo, Tat...
dont be retarded. lit. 1% What!?
OBVIOUSLY the next box is gonna kick the shiza out of the ps3, in terms of power.
Do you not understand the whole concept of next-gen?
Sure, great, the ps3 is the dogs bollucks... ok... get over it.
Do you really think 256 vid and 256 system ram is going to hold up forever? gddr3... whatever... it's just not gonna hold a candle to the, most likely, 2gigs, or so, of nextbox ram. Be serious. Do you really think Macro is retarded enough to develop their next system to not STOMP?
Thats what these guys do.
Dont you remember when the current gen was ludicrous to us all? Do you really think it wont happen again?
Cost isnt even a factor here. its NEXT-GEN, man!
By the cost logic you could argue that the ps2 is competeing with the 360...
it isnt... it cant... only to the broke is that even a question. And even to them its a stupid question. I know. I am one of them.

Anyways, quit being a fanboy. It's SONY. a MASSIVE corporation. Good, you like their wares. I like games to. Thats why i have an xbox. I still don't hold alegance to Macro. Why would I? They just want my money. Like Sony. They have games for their system. Like Sony. Awesome. They get some money. I get GTA4 n such. Happy days. They still dont give a crap about me. Just like Sony does not give a crap about you, save your wallet.
Welcome to business.
You wouldent pledge allegence to a record company just because they put out music you like. Why is this any different?
I know... 'Lets all jizz over videogames! Lets all diss the competators of the console we prefer/have the money to buy! Lets all talk about how our chosen console is superior for xy and z reasons! Mine is more powerful! I am not a programmer and don't know what im talking about!'
Forget that crap. I'm not 9, anymore.

Sega Genesis was so 1992.

Not that I dont like some games for it, though.
Sega is sweet.

Anyways, theres my rant. Dont be a fanboy of corporations.
Enjoy the fruits of their, the workers, labors and be glad that capitalism has afforded us the competition so that companies always have to 1up each other.
Just dont be a sheep about it.

By the way, I am a fan of the DEVELOPERS. You know, the little man getting paid to produce this stuff. The actual people who just might care about you, as a person, because they are not a faceless brand name.

God bless 'em!

Now... get to work on my extra GTA content!

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 4:11:15 PM

Yeap, Im retarded... PS3 cost 600 hundred dollars on launch, yet something thats better than a Ps3 is going to cost a lot less than 600 on launch, makes perfect sense...

And yea, Everyone wants to buy an Xbox everyother 3-4 years, I love spending my money that way :)

I didn't even bother to read all the shit you posted.. because most of it is shit. I skimmed through most of it though, and I want you to know that im happy for you... I wish I can jizz all over my video games...You must be a strong man :( Allz I got is this nice lady to jizz over, man.. you must be the luckiest guy on earth :*(

And... Nothing of what you just said makes sense... Your a fanboy hun, not me... Ive fucked both systems, if thats how you call playing... (Obviously, you jizz on your CD's =/ ) And I find the PS3 stronger, better and more worth my dollar than the X360.

And enjoy that exclusive content babe :) You honestly think R* would leave a growing user database such as the PS3's? I don't think so :)

All about the money.

And Honestly, I have no fucking idea where you get the impression that I think Sony cares about us, because I never even talked about it... But sense you brought it up...
Well, Sony does provide nice service for us, Geez... I wonder if ill ever get my Xbox 360 back after I sent it in to M$ for repair after the RRoD, Oh wait... I have to buy a new one, it's unreparable :*(

You know... Everything you said was just flat-out stupid... I don't even wanna defend myself agianst you, I can't... No seriously, I can't argue with such an idiotic person :( Sorry mate.






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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 4:36:39 PM

And im happy that you think that Cost dosn't matter. Seeing it was one of the major issues with the PS3, I doubt it's a factor... Fucking stupid ass Samus, OFCOURSE IT'S A MOTHERFUCKING FACTOR YOU STUPID SLUT! Jeeeeezz. Im so tired of defending myself to people who still shit in diapers :(

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partys2
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:09:38 AM
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The Nintendo Wii Needs an upgrade so it can play DVD's and CD's also the graphics needs an upgrade to...

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 4:42:16 PM

Wii was aimed towards families, therefore Graphics and gameplay etc... arn't major issues with the Wii... Yes the PS3 is aiming for families too (Movies, music, photos etc...) But it's also for hardcore gamers, scientists (Yea, Experiments are done with it EX.) Folding @ Home) and even physics teachers O.o(Believe it or not, my Physics teacher actually brought a modified PS3 in and showed us a small emulation of the insides of other planets, such as Jupiter, and how weather, gravity and etc. would effect humans.)

So with that said, A Wii is for more of those "lets just have fun" typ of people. Which is everyone... And A PS3 is for those "GOD DAMIT, I SHOT HIM I TELL YOU! HE LAGGED!" Typ of people, with some Blu-Ray on the side haha.

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NetheRealm
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 8:45:42 AM
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PS3 is already a perfect system like a pc if it can be affordably upgraded with better Graphics Processing Power RAM Memory similar to Segas 32x I'm all for that rather than a whole new nneccessary system.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 4:45:25 PM

For Sony, yes.. money isn't an issue, but how much will it cost the customer? Think as a company, not a gamer. If Sony does upgrade, it'll all fall down on us with the money :(

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:06:02 PM
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Um... to say that the next gen consoles will be the same... is completely opinionated.

It's a fact, that the next set of consoles will be better than these... otherwise they wouldn't make them.

There's already tech out there far superior to the current consoles that are out.

Disc drives that have discs holding up to 50 Terabytes... Processors that have well over 8 cores... considering a computer can have as many cores as it wants to.

The next gen consoles will be, in no way, the same. They will blow these out of the water.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:56:46 PM

Discs holding up to 50 terabytes huh? Man, And I thought this 1 Tera HDD was the highest out there for $300 :(, Oh wait... it is, isn't it? See, you just pulled something out of your ass agian.

And if im not mistaking, The PS3 is the first, and only form of computing power to hold 8 total cores. Do your homework hun, you won't get no where in life like this :)

And yes, the next-gen WILL blow these systems out of the water, but it wont happen anytime soon, and that's including 2010, 2012 (Maybe) but I doubt it, 2014-2016 sounds about right.

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:11:37 PM
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Also... MS payed R* for exclusive content.($50million) They didn't hand it over to them cause they thought it would be cool... Sony on the other hand has not payed them anything except for the fact that it should be placed on their console.
R* is a money driven company... they don't care about which system their game is on, as long as they can obtain a profit.
If Sony is gonna get exclusive content, they're gonna have to pay probably the same amount as MS did.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:43:57 PM

No, Im too lazy to read anything you wrote Arnon, Thanks for trying :)

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:46:17 PM

Everyone knows R* is a money-driven company, and everyone knows M$ paid for the exclusive content, and everyone knows Downloadable content will be avialable for PS3 eventually, so you didn't really say anything new here buddy :)

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:14:31 PM
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You're teacher bought a modded PS3 to do that? Do you realize the cost of something like that?
Most likely $2000. I don't believe that you're teacher brought a $2000 PS3 to school to show you the inside of a planet rofl.
Scientists do use the PS3's >MOTHERBOARD< for stuff... they switch around components and etc. etc... but in no way use the PS3 itself for scientific research.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:50:28 PM

No your right, Folding @ Home is not a typ of sciense research. It's just a game that unfolds protien and sends the data to the main computers down at the Folding @ Home HQ, BUT NO, It is no way, shape or form a typ of sciense research.

And for your info, It cost my teacher a total of $800 dollars. I said it was an emulation of the view or "feel" inside other planets, not a god damn emulation of how the universe started from day one.

And modifing a PS3 to do diffrent things is much diffrent than using the PS3's components for differnt systems.

I think now, we know who is really talking out of their ass, don't we? :)

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:04:10 PM

(For the processor all the way down at the bottom)
I never said it would never be used for anything else, I said it isnt being used for anything else...

Must I fight my pride to people who have an asshole as a mouth? It's really starting to annoy me :(

It's ok though, I love Arnon.

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:16:54 PM
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And no, it would not be like NASA blah blah... they've had ample amounts of time to release things, yet they keep holding stuff back.

Even you realize this.

KZ2 has been in production for like 5-6 years now, Home, etc. etc.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:49:39 PM

You don't understand what I wrote do you. :) Gee, Lets see here... I said, asking Sony to work faster than they already are is like asking NASA to launch people to the moon and outer space every other day, I think I proved my point there if you read inbetween the lines buddy :) (see, I don't always blow people off! Moron!)

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:22:52 PM
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And Tatsujin... you haven't defended yourself very well, considering you keep blowing off people's comments with name calling, etc.

What people have stated is fact. You have stated opinion because I doubt you've even looked at what's in store in the next few years.

The PS3 is by far nothing new. Same with the 360, and Wii... look it up, and stop talking out of your ass.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:47:26 PM

Your right, Everything that the X360 and PS3 offered are all in the Xbox and Ps2, Gee, WHAT THE FUCK IS THE POINT OF BUYING A NEXT-GEN SYSTEM?

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:40:52 PM
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I already know, for a fact, that you know nothing of technology.

Especially when you told me in the last argument we had that the Cell processor was for the PS3 only and would never be used in something else...

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 5:45:17 PM
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Gee, You like to write dont you :(, Dosn't mean shit though, half the shit you talk about is old buddy :)

And how much better can the systems get from what they are now? Maybe around 2014-16, but 10-12, Hell it's your opinion if the graphics or anything are any diffrent than this gen.

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evilweasl55
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:07:17 PM
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wow alot of comments! any ways It would be weird to call the new Xbox 720 or PS4 or wii2, if anything it would be Xbox 1080 or PS super ultra omega console, and Nintendo jump and shake. The end is near 2012 black hole sun. but even if that happens i'll still be there with my controller playin it to the EXTREME!!!

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:11:54 PM

Yea, I doubt theyll call them Xbox 720 Ps4 Etc... New names would be nice too.

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:07:34 PM
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Ugh... There IS a Disc that can theoretically hold up to 50TB... It's called the PCD(Protein-coated disc) look it up.

The tech in the next gen systems is NOTHING... literally NOTHING new.

It only looks new because they're in a completely different console. Laa dee daa.

And yes... you do blow people off... you're never nice to anyone who has an opinion, and you make them look immature. I already know you're like "That's cause they are!" But no, they're not. The fact that you call people names is pretty sad. You're like what... 17? Same age as me, and yet, I've stated harder facts than you have in both of these arguments.

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:09:04 PM
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Lol... the sun exploding in 12/21/2012 is completely false... if there was any indication it was going to happen, we would've seen some signs of it by now. Like intense heat, etc.

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:13:11 PM
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I don't think you fully grasp the effect of Terabytes do you...

The fact that there's already discs in dev. that can hold that much is insane, it throws blu-ray away.

There's already RAM that has up to 1 TB or more.

Not only that but then there's the graphics card NVIDIA dual 8800x which is by far more superior than the ones in the current consoles.

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:18:09 PM
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Haha yeah... I actually don't hate Tatsujin in any way or form... I just love to argue.

He probably feels the same way.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:34:15 PM
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Haha, I do love to argue, And I am 17, same as you. I don't hate anyone on here, although my insults make it seem as I do, I just expect people to insult me back, I don't really care one way or the other.

And no one said anything about the sun exploding :P.

And for the Terabytes, for Discs to hold TB, ive never heard of it, theoretcially I have, but not in reality. And yes, Ram is very likly to reach 1 TB within the next few years, I dont doubt that at all. But to say that there are discs that can hold 50 TB is outragouse, especially after Blu-Ray is taking over as the official Format (sorry DVD)

Now, You have states some good facts, but I also have stated some good facts. The only way to see what happens is to wait untill the water boils down to the end.

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:43:08 PM
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I agree... You should go check out on wikipedia:

HVD(Holographic Versatile Disc)
PCD(Protein-Coated Disc)

The classify these as so advanced that they're 4th generation disc formats.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 6:51:21 PM

Haha, Actually I just did :P

But im just trying to point out that Blu-Ray is the next solid format just as DVD was, and HVD and PCD would also have to go through all the work that Blu-Ray went through to claim perfection (A very, very long time Sony's been working on it) And it would also be very, very expenisve for the public ATM, Just look at a BR players -_-'

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 7:22:07 PM
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Yeah... the only cheap blu-ray player is a blu-ray drive for your pc (Averaging at about $199.99). Though within the 4 years time that it will probably be out, the prices will most likely drop significantly.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 7:25:26 PM

True, But not a lot of people watch Blu-Ray or any movie on their PC, I mean they do, but theyd prefer watching it over the TV, and although you may have diffrent options such as PC to TV View etc..., Many people just prefer a regular Blu-Ray Player, and PS3 is the cheapest form of that.

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 7:28:39 PM
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Yeah the PS3 probably is the cheapest form. Though IMO. I think Blu-ray was released a bit too late when all these new formats were already in dev.

I mean honestly I cant even tell the difference between HD-DVD and Blu-Ray... you'd have to look really close.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 7:43:02 PM
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But, Lets not forget here, Blu-Ray did win for a number of reasons.

It had more capacity
and It was more flexible (In terms of programing such as BD Live etc...) than HD-DVD

Plus, People just loved it.

The idea of having DVD in the name, like Toshiba did (HD-DVD) was a nice idea b/c people will say, Hey, DVD... I know this one. To where as What? Blu-Ray? Never heard of it.

But still, Blu-Ray beasted HD-DVD. And HD-DVD and Blu-Ray where in production for quit a loooong time.

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Arnon
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 7:46:11 PM
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I do agree that Blu-Ray is far superior to HD-DVD, but in comparison by looking at it, it's very difficult.

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Tatsujin
Monday, May 12, 2008 @ 8:12:13 PM
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There is no diffrence in visuals, Maybe sound. But Blu-Ray once agian was more flexible in terms of features and capacity. They both due pretty much the same thing.

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Jdogtoocool
Wednesday, May 14, 2008 @ 10:08:47 PM
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I don't think that the next line of consoles will be coming out in 2010. That's just too early, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one that thinks that...

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Tatsujin
Thursday, May 15, 2008 @ 10:03:30 PM
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Hey Jdog, Im with you man... I mean, Well yes, the next set of consoles will probably be released AROUND 2010 for Microsoft and Nintendo... But is there anything new that they will feature? The jump from the Xbox and Ps2 to the Xbox 360 and PS3 is HUGE. I don't think well be seeing anything new or better than what the PS3 is right now. My opinion.

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