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E3 2008 Editorial: Calm Yourselves Over Loss Of Exclusives

After yesterday's relatively stunning revelation that Final Fantasy XIII would be headed to the Xbox 360, and today's rumors that claim Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots will eventually come to the 360 as well, I figure everyone needs to drink some decaf, sit back in a nice, comfy armchair, and convince themselves that the world is not actually ending.

Of course, we're keeping a very careful eye on the proceedings at E3, and that means we're not limiting our scan to the Sony conference (which kicks off in about two and a half hours, by the way). Obviously, we noticed the FFXIII announcement, and immediately afterwards, the predictable happened: the Internet exploded. However, while I understand the motivation behind it, it seems painfully obvious that everyone is getting just a touch carried away. I'm reading articles now about how the PS3 might be "dead" because it "lost" FFXIII, and how nobody should even bother buying the PS3. The knee-jerk reactions are expected, but seriously, take a step back and survey the situation with a realistic, reasonable, and logical eye:

I think we've all known for a while that the third-party exclusive is going the way of the dodo. I figured that was just common knowledge. Before long, the only "exclusives" left will be first-party titles, and after some time, I'm willing to bet even those will be subject to negotiation. Thing is, in regards to FFXIII, that's still a ways off, and I don't see how Grand Theft Auto IV hurt anyone. Is Sony really suffering because that game launched simultaneously for the PS3 and 360? And what about MGS4? It won't be a while until it comes out for the 360 - even if it does arrive - and by then, the PS3 will have already reaped the rewards. It happened with Bioshock's timed exclusivity for the 360, yes? The bottom line is that Sony executives aren't currently hiding under their desks just because FFXIII is also going to the 360. That's just not happening.

And gamers out there need to step off the fanboy wagon and simply appreciate the situation for what it is. Another group of gamers who own a different console will get to play a fantastic title, and if someone owns both consoles...what difference does it make, anyway? This is not the end of the world. If we have to, we can compare Sony's first-party exclusives to Microsoft's, but I honestly believe Sony wins that battle without any trouble. Furthermore, would it be wrong to assume something like Gears of War is coming to the PS3? Why do 360 owners just assume it's sticking around? Third-party exclusives are just about done, and we have to accept that for this new generation. Hardware sales aren't going to take a dive tomorrow because a game loosely scheduled for 2009 is no longer available for only one platform! And sales aren't going to spike for the other platform, either! It's a bonus for 360 owners, but in all actuality, current PS3 owners - and prospective PS3 owners - aren't "losing" anything.

They still get FFXIII, and at the same time as Xbox 360 owners. They still get the first-party exclusives, with names like Gran Turismo, Resistance, Ratchet and Clank, etc. They still get Blu-Ray. They still get a free Network. They still get far greater reliability (still true; MS has yet to fix the RRoD problem, obviously). Nobody in their right minds is curling up into a ball and crying over this. And by the way, one final note: for years, Xbox loyalists have bashed FF relentlessly; they won't play a "kiddie RPG, anyway," and "FF sucks; who cares?" This note of significant jealousy died yesterday, and they all pulled a complete 180. In a nutshell, this is why fanboyism is so unbelievably lame. For my part, I keep my 360 for a variety of reasons, and while I'm certain I'll play FFXIII on my PS3, I really have no problem playing GeoW2 on my 360. Nor do I have a problem playing Infinite Undiscovery and Lost Odyssey on it.

But you know what I won't do? I won't cry if any of those lose exclusivity and go to the PS3. Just like I'm not crying about FFXIII. Perhaps sadly, the "knee-jerk" days are gone for me, and I'm too old...I'm forced to be a realist. Could everyone else at least attempt to adopt that same philosophy for the sake of maturity in this industry? Thanks.

7/15/2008 Ben Dutka

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pavlovic
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 11:32:24 AM
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I totally agree with you. I also have both consoles, and I bought the 360 to play Bioshock, I was kinda dissapointed when I knew it was coming to the PS3, but, hey, I will be able to play Gears 2.

I use my PS3 to play multiplatform titles and my 360 to play 360 exclusives (hoping that the next time I turn it on it doesn't get the RROD)

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Damaine
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 7:12:48 PM

SCREW DAT..since xbox is getting ps3 xclusives y dont ps3 get halo and then ill act mature and may be we can call it even for stealing Grand theft auto, Devil May Cry, Soul Caliber and freaking Final Fantasy.

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DIsmael85
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 11:36:49 AM
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I can understand where you are coming from. I still feel a bit like Microsoft dirtied up the gaming industry when the entered with the Xbox. it has been in a steady decline with decent games, and seriously now has become only about money money money. I know that's how business works, but damn it seems to me like yesterday when there were actually good games with a lot of variety out there (PS2).

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Jeffrey
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 11:42:43 AM
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I think everything should just be released multiplatform. Why not? Obviously each system has its benefits, and the games will just have to be adjusted to play on those strenghts.

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LunaticFringe
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 11:49:28 AM
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As long as I can get the game for my ps3 i really don't care who else gets it. everybody wins. all gamers should be entitled to all games. But what will happen next? will sony focus on it's network? what will set the consoles apart? will the saying software sells hardware be flipped? will it turn into a hardware battle from here on out? or maybe games will be released like qore demos. all consoles will get the game but it will just be a matter of who can get it first.




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StrategicGnomer
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 11:50:58 AM
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The reason I don't like the idea of a multiplatform launch is that it holds back the true potential of each system. The PS3 has a completely different architecture, it has the ability to have more things going on at once and more intense graphics whereas the 360 can't run as many threads. If you code for both you have to cut the quality of the PS3 version unless you make essentially 2 different games and where's the point in that? As far as FF goes, there never was much going on, on the screen, to warrant all those threads so yes, I can see that game being multiplat. But for most games, the PS3 just has more power and coding for both means you have to bring the PS3 down to the 360s level. I'm not trying to be a PS3 fanboy here, the only reason I have a PS3 is the free network but the truth is, the ps3 has more power behind it. And besides, if you own a 360 and a ps3, exclusives make it worth having that other system right?

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Bugzbunny109
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 12:06:20 PM
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Ben you sound like you are losing it, try taking Red bull, it will get you wings

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Millman
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 12:16:45 PM
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My problem is not so much that 3rd parties are now releasing exclusives on multiple platforms... My problem is that I love my PS3 and I enjoy playing games on it more than on my 360, however, when games are developed on the 360 and ported to the PS3 they turn out horrible on the PS3 and I'm forced to buy the 360 if I want the good and stable version of the game. My other problem is that I'm being forced to buy 360 versions of games that I would really rather have for my PS3 because exclusive content is being offered with the 360 version. Such is the case with GTAIV which you mention in your article as well as Fallout 3. It makes me sick that if I want the exclusive content I have to buy the game for the console that I don't really care for. I'm sure I'm not alone here either.

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eba101
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 12:18:45 PM
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i think this article was aimed at me lol for the previous comment on the article of mgs4 coming o xbox i know its just a rumor just like bioshock 4 ps3 but what happen then and i aint crying about it just pissed that they said it was esclusice for ps3 but i hope they have esclusive content plus i hate those fnboys who cap on game esclusive to a system but if they come out for there system there first in line yeah i dont have an 360 my roomate does and i enjoyed playing gears of war and were planing to pass gears2 and he actually bought a mgs4 bundle so were not does fanboys who hate games we enjoy a good game thats all

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 12:35:18 PM

No, it's aimed at the gaming public in general. :)

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Enfildate
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 12:19:51 PM
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After reading your article, i realize your right. But, if Square announced that FFXIII would be a 360 exclusive, i would cry then laugh then scream in disbelief lol

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LCF
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 12:20:02 PM
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There is a love/hate relationship with cross platform.1st with the hate.with cross platform we will never see the PS3 outshine other formats,The PS3 wont reach its system potenial because of a gimped game(360 does not have the power,storage medium of future games)So we as PS3 owners (I own a 360 Elite as well) Will always get a dummied down ver.Now for the love!(which is only wishful thinking)Developers could start with a PS3 ver. 1st optimize it fully to the PS3,then cut it down to fit the PC and 360.If this happens you will see alot more people investing in the PS3.Why should PS3 owners not get a higher quality game on a system that is capable of so much more? Why should developers be limited on one system format when the PS3 can make their vision closer to reality? For the future it seems it looks like Sony and its 1st party will be primed to be making superior games for the PS3.While 3rd party will be stuck in older gen formats.This might be the generation of the 1st party.We may not see it now but in a couple of years it just might pop up and rear it's amazing head.

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LastHour
Thursday, July 17, 2008 @ 8:48:45 AM

Now, why should us 360 owners lose out on having a great performing game as well? And you don't need to cut down a PS3 game to play on PC. With most computer components available today, it's the PC game that should be cut down for 360 and PS3. What devs should do is develop for each platform [i]independently[/i] so it performs well based on the hardware. Wii is the least powerful, but it can still pump out amazing games, 360 is no slouch, and PS3 has the potential to DOMINATE. That's what I think, games shouldn't be 'cut down' to match other platforms, because in the end, you just get a huge pile as the result.

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Tatsujin
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 12:20:38 PM
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Once agian, I dun even care about FFXIII going to X360.. Just like you said Ben, the only diffrence it makes is more people get to play it. Both systems are great, yes... but I chose my PS3 over the X360 for more reasons than just GAMES. Loyalty is one of them (Yes, I am loyal to Sony) and also.. Blu-Ray Movies :) More reasons, but im too lazy to list them atm... But you guys get my drift eh?

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enjoi
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 12:31:01 PM
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The thing that bothers me is that SE said that they won't start on the 360 version until the ps3 version is done. Yet, they both will be released at the same time in US/EU. So ps3 users will have to wait. However, when you look at last remnant the ps3 version is lagging behind and they aren't going to delay the 360 version.

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daylight_dies
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 12:34:51 PM
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To be honest, i think it's cool that XB360 owners will get to experience FF13, though i would rather they didn't if it means lowering the quality of the game for everyone.

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ceedot
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 12:52:27 PM
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And that's it? Final Fantasy isn't that 'Playstation game' anymore? Yeah cool man.
Anyway, looks like everyone else want's to follow you. 'I totally agree'. Yeah, Sony isn't doing sh** for it's customers. How about getting exclusives, or exclusive content. Maybe not losing it's exclusives. How about getting 360 exclusives? People buy 360's because their cheap. If Sony doesn't do anything, then no one will buy their consoles because they can play 360 and have PS3 games. Dur?
Sony, get the exclusives.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 1:17:17 PM

Cool it. If you want to treat this like the end of the world, fine. Just don't scream at everyone else, telling them they should do the same thing.

Sony MIGHT have other things on their plate, and I'm relatively certain they're interested in selling their products. I doubt they're willing to be lectured, and based on their history with the PS1 and PS2, I'm willing to bet they can deliver with the PS3. So please, cut down on the negativity.

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Aftab
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 1:43:02 PM
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My biggest concern when a game loses exclusivity, isn't really the loss of anything, except for the loss of quality that a title may undergo when it is no longer specialized toward a particular system, and it's unique features...

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LunaticFringe
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 2:24:12 PM
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As long as I can get the game for my ps3 i really don't care who else gets it. everybody wins. all gamers should be entitled to all games. But what will happen next? will sony focus on it's network? what will set the consoles apart? will the saying software sells hardware be flipped? will it turn into a hardware battle from here on out? or maybe games will be released like qore demos. all consoles will get the game but it will just be a matter of who can get it first.


any thoughts? anybody?

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ActionJackson
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 2:53:19 PM
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"Before long, the only "exclusives" left will be first-party titles, and after some time, I'm willing to bet even those will be subject to negotiation."
...That statement is bullshit. XD
First party games are owned by the people who own the console, they aren't going to want their game to come to another console.

People need to chillax thinking they won't buy a PS3 simply because it's coming the the 360 also. Yeesh. You can still buy one. There is no reason why you shouldn't. >.>

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Daedusian
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 3:37:22 PM
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I also 100% agree with you Ben. I don't have a 360 yet but I really am considering getting one soon. I've played GeoW on the PC and I really enjoyed it... well until my computer failed to run it anymore lol.

However, I do like the idea of exclusives but the lame fanboyish crap is getting really old. Why can't people just be happy with what they have and not worry about what others have. The small lineup for the 360 is enough this year to lure me in to getting an xbox and I really am happy for them. Now the Wii on the other hand is another story, but I won't be getting into that lol.

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bamf
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 4:07:10 PM
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FF XIII was a system seller for the PS3, the game going to 360 makes this no longer the case and gives gamers the option to purchase a cheaper 360 to play this game. With this and the other 3 S-E games on 360, it makes the 360 the place to be for RPG fans.

Everythings great and Sony will win when it comes to PS3 having 3rd party big game exclusives. As soon when PS3 lose exclusives for 3rd party games, everyones like 'who cares'

If every game was multiplatform, including 1st party, then there would be no point of having 3 consoles. We might as well just have the one console and let the Publishers of their games fight it out for your wallet. But having one only console would mean no competition which will mean no innovation.
Nintendo aren't coming out with big exclusive games because they don't need to, they already lead the way in terms of console sales and don't have to come out with anything for the hardcore fanbase to push sales.
Sony has a hardcore fanbase and without exclusives, they're gonna look elsewhere and that means no push for the PS3. Imagine when the PS3 launched and it had not one exclusive, and for the future too there where no exclusives? Can anyone say that gamers would have bought a PS3? Which could lead to no PS4, who wants that?

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Minishmaru
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 5:33:25 PM

FFXIII won't be a huge system seller due to it won't come out in japan for the 360 only the PS3. Which is pretty smart considering they have a small install base in japan. So it means the rest of Japan will get a PS3 :)

I highly doubt too many people will buy a 360 for FFXIII honestly. I could be surprised tho

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orangpelupa
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 7:28:32 PM
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@bamf, i agree
i am an RPG fan, thats why i have ps1, ps2, xbox 360 :D

btw i just hope FF13 loading in x360 will not as bad as Lost Odyssey....

@minish
on world, or atleast in my country, there more x360 owner than ps3 owner.
so im sure they will nuy the x360 version.

and for those who still dont have x360 or ps3, maybe they will buy x360 to play ff13. because it simply cheaper.

or maybe MS will make FF13 x360 bundle lol

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Shellshock92
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 1:08:24 AM
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WOOP WOOP GO BEN,I love it when he gets REAL and schools all of those Fanboys.I totally agree, I love FF, but It will see the light of day at the same time on the PS3 as it will on 360.So we really should not say "PS3 is DEAD" besides with Marquee titles coming out we're just starting, and don't get me started on !!!M.A.G!!!

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Akuma07
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 10:19:44 AM
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the more ps3 exclusives that go over to 360. the more ps3 will die in the ass.
because of what someone said here, people buy the 360 because its the cheaper console to play games on. honestly if i had the 500 to spare id buy one too.
but i am a loyal PS owner. and i think its about time sony stepped up and did something to protect their exclusives.
i cant believe i just read sony owns 9% (or something) of S-E and S-E went and did the dirty.


i agree 100% about the comment made about microsoft "dirtying" up the games business.
ever since they brought out the 360 all they do is just throw their money around everywhere to accomplish their needs and wants. they dont care for their customers. they dont care about the industry.

the current quality of ps3 games is pretty poor, there arent THAT many good ones there at the moment, and i think microsoft is soley to blaim for that, they turning everything multiplatform which causes devs to lessen the experience on the ps3 just because its multi platform.

if games like FFXIII are developed on the ps3 1st then ported to 360 i would be happy, thats how it SHOULD be for PS3 ex-exclusives. pretty soon microsoft will realise its going to need to bring out a new machine if its to stand up to the technical quality of the ps3. and when that happens, i see them pissing off devs because i dont think its gona get any easier to code for such quality.

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cegmp
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 10:37:43 PM
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I agree with some parts. But it really is bad news, and i belive that you shouldn't sweeten it up. Why is it bad, because it might affect the ps3 sales, especially since it isn't a time exclusive! There's a 50% probability that people w/both console will pick one or the other. And what about the future buyers who would buy a console for this game. Yes, they might pick the 360 because its cheaper. So thats another market loss. If you're saying that the Sony higher ups aren't worried then i suggest they should be. The reaction of the people obviuosly mean something, they might be over-reacting but those are still the people that they want on their side. Their target.
I get a picture where you're coming from but after reading you're artcile, i pictured you sitting in a high and mighty tower looking down on the people(its not an insult, I'm just trying my best to express my idea). It just that it feels like you're in another level. To truly understand people, you need to go down to their level. I get the feeling that you're trying to understand the people according to your own standards. Not everyone is as fortunate to have 2 consoles like you do. Bahh.. Im having trouble explaining.

Anyway, what worries me most is the future of RPGs with reagrads to the PS3.

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PaiNT_kinG
Thursday, July 17, 2008 @ 4:33:22 AM
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hhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmm

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Geosondaman
Thursday, July 17, 2008 @ 9:33:03 AM
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We gotta understand something here. And that is that third party developers are not loyal to any such companies...with the exception of I guess Kojima Productions. The likes of Insomniac, Naughty Dog, etc are strictly loyal to Sony since they are its first party devs. Whereas Square-Enix is a third party dev and it doesn't really have to stay loyal to Sony at all. I kind of expected FFXIII might eventually go to the 360. Since S-E has been really supporting the 360 in the Japanese markets by announcing new exclusive RPGs for it. Such games are: Infinite Undiscovery, Tales of Vesperia (there will be a PS3 version in Japan, but no other regions will get it). And I believe The Last Remnant is being released on the 360 first then on the PS3. It sucks really. But that's reality. Companies don't stay loyal to you, they are only loyal to you when YOU can help them make maximum profit. Last generation, PS2 pretty much is the king of the console race, no other console came even close to its market share. The install base was huge. But now, it's a wash, 360 has an edge over PS3 in terms of the NA market, about the same in European market. The only region that it loses to PS3 is the Asian regions such as Japan itself. I believe in HK PS3 is more popular, but HK isn't very substantial in terms of a region since it only harbours 7 million people. Anyhow, I do believe Asians are still finding PS3 more attractive since it is from an Asian company (more familiar with the PS brand also), and simply they've been gaming on the PS for a long time.

All in all, I really am not worried about PS3's future, and no body should. It's got great potential and great games coming out for it in the future. Losing one exclusive doesn't kill it. And 360 ISN'T getting FF Versus XIII either. So it is not completely losing out this gen's FF's exclusivity to the 360.

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