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E3 2008: PS3 Vaulted Blu-Ray To Victory, MGS4 "Impossible" On 360

At Sony's press conference, Jack Tretton spoke a great deal about the PlayStation 3 and its inherent capabilities. He first reemphasized the fact that Sony's next-gen machine has a 10-year lifespan, and he moved on with several other comments of interest during the course of the presentation.

First of all, like many journalists have written already, Tretton freely said the PS3 is what vaulted Blu-Ray to victory in the high-definition format war. Furthermore, the PS3 will "return the favor" by giving developers the continued change to take advantage of the BD format, and this led to another topic: the issue of PS3 exclusivity for Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. Tretton basically said that no other console could handle the game:

"PS3 offers an experience for both gamers and developers no other console can match. Metal Gear Solid is not only exclusive on PS3 its only possible on PS3, thanks in part to Blu-Ray."

We're willing to bet that Hideo Kojima would probably agree with that sentiment, especially after the news we've heard from his team over the past six months or so. And while some sources continue to claim that MGS4 will eventually find its way to the Xbox 360, we still have nothing but rumors. For now, let's just say the PS3 is on the right track, and the official word is that MGS4 isn't confirmed to be going to any other platform.

Related Game(s): Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

7/15/2008 Ben Dutka

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Tatsujin
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 10:33:31 PM
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I doubt it will... Kojima seems to stand firmly on his pose to keep it exclusive to PS3, and not to mention... he is one of the few (Probably the ONLY one) that actually cares about his games, willing to throw the X360 install-base for his art on PS3... but hey, PS3's install-base is kinda sky-rocketing atm... Most of my friends have either switched to PS3 or just bought the PS3 and tossed the X360 on the side... -shrug- MGS4 on X360? Never gonna happen, period.

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ceedot
Tuesday, July 15, 2008 @ 10:34:08 PM
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I thought it was 'innevitable'....


I doubt microsoft would embarrass themselves with 5 disks for it. (well, they are getting FFXIII, so who knows?)

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Fabi
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 12:58:36 AM
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Why did MGS4 take up so much space? Was it for the audio and huge cut-scenes?

Because Gears 2 looks more visually impressive.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:10:24 PM

Ugh, no... MGS4 has some of the best visuals...

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Shellshock92
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 1:14:19 AM
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Tatsujin....How right you are,the one,IF ONLY,man in video game history who understands LOYALTY it must be Hideo Kojima

HIDEO1
hideo2

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orangpelupa
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 1:45:23 AM
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@ceedot

have multiple disc IS NOT EMBARASSING

and i think its much faster, simpler, and easier to swap disc than a mandatory install.

remember PS1 era?
i played Final Fantasy (7,8,9), FF8 in Multiple disc, about 4 disc if i remember correctly. and it not hurt me at all.

BTT
i think MGS4 is technically possible to run in x360, it have bigger RAM, faster Graphic Chip.
for disc space, konami can use 1 disc @ act.
so 5 acts = 5 DVD.

but, from the Story and Script. im sure MGS4 cant be ported to X360 without editing the script and story.

ofcourse if konami insist, they can just port it without changing the script :(

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ThePoetRazel
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 5:34:15 AM

Actually, the 1 disc per act thing doesn't seem reasonable to me. there's various things in the game that stay the same throughout all acts, game controls for example. All of these would need to be on each disc as well as the act specific stuff. And perhaps the acts aren't equal in file size. Maybe 1 act would take up half a disc and another act taking up 1 and a half discs. That would mean altering some acts, perhaps causing a split in the act.
Plus, there's a 4.6gb install size already. For this to work on multiple discs i can see that install size going through the roof. The game would probably require a separate disc just for the install, and maybe downloads too.

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Bugzbunny109
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 9:24:03 AM

No you dont get it orangpulupa, it is embarrasing because they call the 360 "next generation" and they are still doing "last generation", i mean having ten dics on a so called next generation consel is rediculous

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:15:06 PM

Here.. Let me put it to you this way Orange... Multi-CD's are somewhat a thing of the past... I rather install, than have to swap CD's because;
A) That 4-8 minute install gives me my time to rest from the game...
B) Dude, seriously, if you can have something on one disc but in return you must take out about 4-8 minutes of your time, opposed to having about 2 (In MGS4 case it would be 5 disks... calculated, maybe 6 (50/9)) So.. yea... No thanks, I would rather have one CD fits all, not 5 disks scattered everywhere... Mind you, I have a young sibling that likes to touch everything she can get her little hands on :(

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:41:41 PM

One more addition, if you lose a disc, what the hell happend to the other 4 disks? Yea, better start saving up for a new copy huh? K, case closed.

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aaronisbla
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 2:32:16 AM
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i dont know man, when sony is in danger of losing an exclusive, they seem to not harp on it too much. Case in point: FFXIII. We didnt hear anyone from sony claiming " Yep, gotta have our system in order to play FFXIII, end of story!"

However, with MGS4, they seem to be pretty damn sure it wont go to 360, and i trust it won't. if it does, no lose of sleep for me. Just don't count on it, whether sony paid a lot for it ( something they have gone on record to say they dont) or whether its not possible, this more than likely will stay on the ps3

Sure its much faster, easier, simpler to just insert a new disk, but whose to say the loading times wont be horrendous.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:16:18 PM

My point exaclty, Compressed data is faster to install rather than to load--end of story... Look at WoW... Do you actually think the entire game could have fit on one CD? No... And, on top of that, all that data was compressed... ON 5 DIFFRENT DISCS*. Imagine trying to load that Data off a CD each time you move to a diffrent location, time of day etc... It would be just like Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion... Yes, the loading times on the PS3 are a tad bit faster (Wouldn't even notice) But if it had an optional install... you wouldn't even remmember the last time you had to load a game... Simple as that

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Bugzbunny109
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 8:35:27 PM

.what do you really expect them to do? They cant do anything, thr decision was already made, so they couldn't really do anything but whine. If they did that, it would be embarrasing

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Bugzbunny109
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 8:35:27 PM

.what do you really expect them to do? They cant do anything, thr decision was already made, so they couldn't really do anything but whine. If they did that, it would be embarrasing

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ActionJackson
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 3:05:12 AM
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I kind of expect FF XIII to turn out like this when they get to porting it to the 360.

But still, all these "analysts" keep on harping about MGS4 going to the 360. They only factor in sales potential, that's it. What they don't factor in is how the hell Konami would actually manage to get the game from the PS3 to the 360. That Kojima is adamant about bringing the game to the 360, and the storage issues, are factors that they DON'T consider.

And you know what fans the fires to these idiots rantings? Game publications, who report on rumors. Other publications in other forms of media don't do this. This is why gaming publications don't have any respect. Don't. Report. On. Rumors.

Please. >.>

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robinhood2010
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 6:16:04 AM

Rumours in other forms of media can be detrimental to either the reader of the subject, whereas video gaming media is all about fun. Will it kill the reader to belive FF7 is being remade, to find out it's a lie? Or will SE collapse?

No.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:20:46 PM

True.

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ZubraZap
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:01:20 AM
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So an FFVII remake is to make up for us loosing FFXIII as an exclusive?

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robinhood2010
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 6:43:34 PM

???
Didn't say that.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:21:31 PM

No info on it.... Ben, what the hell happend to that big announcement they where suppose to make at E3? What is this Ben? What do I pay you for? Huh? I don't pay you do I? :( lol :P

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creepypete
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:39:24 AM
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Man, this guy has got some major balls. ."We will return the favor" by letting devs develop on bluray?..........Is this guy insane, or just way too full of himself?...Sony's E3 showing was terrible, he needs a reality check.

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Jordahn
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 9:04:03 AM

"Return the favor" is a very leg comment since few developers have voiced that the Blu-ray format wasn't as of a restraint as the DVD format. Both the 360 and the PS3 have their quirks when developing a game. But developers have also voiced that it's becoming easier and easier to develop for the PS3, and having the Blu-ray capacity doesn't hurt. Third party developers are sticking with the PS3. I'm sure development was very hard at first, but with the them learning more and more about the PS3 architecture, having the storage capacity of Blu-ray will "return the favor" for these developers for hanging in there. Nothing wrong with that.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:23:21 PM

Actually-- Developers actually prefer Blu-Ray discs over DVDs... When you develope on 9 gigs, it is like me giving you a house full of papers to put into my Minivan.. when it is blu-ray.. it is like me giving you a minivan full of papers to stuff in a house.. See the diffrence here?

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creepypete
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 8:01:02 AM
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multiple disks embarrassing? I guess that's the only thing you have left to hold on too, huh?......Yeah after 6 hours of play getting up to put in a new disk is just a tragedy, . please

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ThePoetRazel
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 8:14:13 AM

If a generation 7 console displayed a necessity for the amount of discs not seen on a console since the 5th generation, it would be an embarrassment. It's a step backward. I'd rather buy games in a case, not a box.

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Jordahn
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 9:10:09 AM

Ceedot also has a legit point. When SquareEnix and/or Microsoft unveils the release of FFXIII which at the very least will be the same as the PS3 version is not worse, it does come into question, "Why does the PS3 version comes on one dics which the 360 version comeson 5 (if that little)?" You cannot deny that there will be an air of inferiority here to the 360 version. Nothing wrong with multiple discs in itself. But I'd rather change out 3 CD with FFVII on the PSOne instead of a 1000 carts on the N64 like I's rather just have one Blu-ray with FFXIII on the PS3 instead of multiple discs on the 360 version, having a choice.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:25:06 PM

6 Hours of play? Try 1-2 hours of play. On top of that, it is a slower load--installation greatly reduce load times... to no load times at all... Thank God for installations.

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creepypete
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 8:17:58 AM
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Right Tatsujin, all your friends switched to the PS3 an d tossed their 360's, . . wishful thinking. . I have both and not only do I not use my PS3 1/10 of the time I use my 360, but NONE of my friends have a PS3 except me, and they all make fun of me for it. . . Now I didn't say I didn't like my PS3, cause I do, I just think it will be another couple of years before they are able to match everything I like about my 360, . . minus the games.

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Jordahn
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 9:15:50 AM

Oh... so you are calling Tatsujin a liar. Maybe he is, but then again maybe you are the one who's lying. But it doesn't matter because if friends laugh at you for having a PS3, then those friends are not gamers. And if you let those laughs influence you, then you are sheep to your environment, lacking individualism.

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GamerKid123
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 9:59:03 AM

crepypete, i have a load of friends with 360's and they try to influence me into trading in my ps3 for a 360, and guess what... i stuck my middle finger up at them, and as for laughing, they aren't you friends if they laugh @ you for sumthin like that!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 10:48:21 AM

Yeah creepypete; if all your friends make fun of you for having a game console they don't have....I suggest getting some new friends.

Fanboy friends are basically useless.

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Zapix
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 11:27:46 AM

"Fanboy friends are basically useless."

Ben couldn't have said it any better. I've told friends to go f*** themselves, and cut them off from my list of friends, and promote them to the 'worthless people' list... which omfg, is huge! Don't take trash talk from people who should be your friends. You have enemies and nobodies to do that.

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OtisFeelgood
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 12:44:56 PM

I agree with everyone that replied to Creepypete

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:27:25 PM

First off, I said MOST of my friends are getting a PS3, and SOME of those MOST are getting rid of their X360... buddy, my friends are not your friends last time I checked... Please, don't try to put words in my mouth, or atleast read what I wrote twice before you say anything next time... read what anyone wrote twice, like I do... that way you don't mix up things by saying "You said that ALL your friends are throwing away their X360 for a PS3" Because I never said that :)

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:58:03 PM

A small edit, most of my friends carry all three systems.. thanks :P

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 8:26:07 AM
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creepypete go back to gamespot or someother pro-M$ website, please, kthnxbye. Also's Sony's E3 showing was the best of the 3, accept it. Nintendon't didn't have anything to show really and M$ only had the FF13 multiplat for them.

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javon_27
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 10:22:37 AM
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you know, i don't really know what could cause a developer to stuff a bluray disk. It's not like any of the cutscenes were pre-rendered right? But I think that it would be really hard to port it over to xbox. For one, Kojima wouldn't want to oversee it, and he's not about to let anyone else oversee it either. So case closed.

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Akuma07
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 10:33:19 AM
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HANG on guys!!!

come now, has anyone forgot?

MGS4 ACTUALLY HAS ps3 advertising in it?!?!

the cell processor used in the MG mk2. the ps3 controller used to control the mk2.
there are others but i cant remember them.

plus kojima had to settle with companies about advertisement in game aswell, like apple for the ipod.


if they were to change any of that what could they replace it with?
the mk2 runs off a RRoD chip.

=\

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ThePoetRazel
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 11:08:16 AM

Another example would be the forth wall breaking comment Otacon makes about being on PS3 and dual-layer bluray during Act 4.

Also, i'd like to weigh in another point. back at last year's E3, the developers of Uncharted, Rachet and Clank ToD and Heavenly Sword said that these games wouldn’t’ be possible on any other console due to size, power and graphics capability.
So, if these games can only work on PS3, it’s unlikely that MGS4 would work on 360.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:30:00 PM

Well said.

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MirrorSoul
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 11:25:28 AM
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Put it this way...If sony during E3 took time to cleary state that MGS4 was a PS3 Esclusive it shows what Kojima truly wants...and really would kojima ever sit though an Multidisk inferior version of MGS4.HE'S A PERFECTIONIST HE WOULDNT BE ABLE TO BEAR SEEING PPL MESS HIS BABY UP!!!!!lol

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Fabi
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 12:35:14 PM
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@ThePoet - Sony says a lot of things. If Gears 2 and FF13 can be done, Uncharted and Heavenly Sword can be done. I think we've all had this idea that the PS3 is ages beyond the 360, but in reality they aren't that much different, and if they are, the PS3 hasn't shown it.

@Mirror - I think so too, if Sony went out of their way to assure that it can only be done on the PS3, I don't see them taking the embarrassment of seeing it ported to the 360.

And swapping discs is as bad as waiting there for 2-5 minutes to have an act install. I hated that about MGS4.

Sometimes I have like 15-20 minutes to play and I feel like throwing on a certain act, but realize I have to reinstall it, and decide to play something else.

That is one thing I will not understand, why don't we have the choice of having the acts stay installed?

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ThePoetRazel
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 6:33:56 PM

Sony didn't say it, the devs of those games did. And i didn't see Mr Tretton holding a gun to their heads when they said it.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:31:36 PM

Lol Poet, actually I agree with both you and Fabi... In some points.

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JeffroSuperstar
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 1:54:03 PM
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Far be it from me to disrespect anybody's opinion on here, but after reading this article and its posts I was left with one question: Why does it matter?

IF MSG4 hit shelves for the 360 tomorrow, would it brick all PS3 copies? Of course not. The only thing that would change is that more people would be able to play a great game.

As long as I can play it on my preferred system, I honestly don't care if they find a way to port it to the SEGA CD--it won't spoil the fun I'm having.

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pillz81
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 3:11:32 PM

It is the exclusives that seem to be the point of pride that people have for owning their "beloved" consoles. I have only once had more than one system in one "generation" and that was PS2 and Gamecube. I played my PS2 the most because it had the games I wanted/preferred.

The gamecube was just to play MGS Twin Snakes and the Resident Evil remakes. Plus the PS1 and 2 had the FF 7-12 (except for 11 being on PC and 360 as well)exclusively. It may evolve into closed-minded beliefs people develop and the changes hit those people hard because they only knew of a game franchise being associated with one console.
I don't have an affinity toward RPGs but the news about FF13 left me with a bad taste in my mouth.

On another note, I don't understand how people have multiple consoles of each generation at one time, especially the junior to senior high kids. They must get some crazy high grades in school.
It boggles my mind.

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ThePoetRazel
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 5:20:48 PM

An exclusive can help sell more units of a console. The more units of a console are in consumer's hands, the more likely developers are to create new games for that console.
MGS4 is a huge boon for PS3 sale, ergo it remaining an exclusive gives greater reason for developers to make games on the PS3.
However, is the 360 got a watered down version of the game it'd show devs that the PS3 is the better choice for developing top titles on and so we won't have to suffer many horrible ports.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:33:49 PM

@ Pillz... Buddy, I work my ass off for everything I own in my house... I pay bills, I pay for my car bills, I pay for my gas, I put my share in this household... Yes, I'm only 17, NO, I am not maturing too fast (I act like a kid half the time) It is just that you--at somepoint- have to take some kind of responsiblity, and I just started on mine...

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 3:52:47 PM
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I find it hilarious the number of 360 owners trying to convert me to microsoft. They just don't realize the POWER of the PS3.

Microsoft=good at pc's, bad at consoles.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:36:17 PM

Actually, X360 is not bad at all.. I just prefer PS3 over X360 because
1) I am loyal to Sony (Not a Fanboy, just loyal.. kinda like Kojima)
2) X360 has only one game I really want, and that is GoW 1 and 2... but I am not about to keep a system that I can sell to one of my friends for $300 bucks over a single game...
3) PS3 Had everything I needed, from HD movies (Blu-Ray) To hardcore gaming...

If I had the money to buy X360, I probably would for one reason-- Gears of War... Other than that, no thanks.

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Fabi
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 4:16:35 PM
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MGS4 for the 360 will also come with exclusive content and gameplay that will not be in the PS3 version of the game. Some of this content is VR missions, as well as “Snake Tales” or “Snake in the Valley” (depending on where you live), which will let you go on objective based missions, some of which are very lengthy. These are the first two bonuses to emerge so far, but be ready to expect even more.


@Ben - Can someone please explain this...say it ain't so...

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:38:00 PM

Well, My Gears of War 2 that has never been announced for the PS3 will come to the PS3 with life-like visuals-- 100gigs of exclusives just for the PS3 and 10k online multiplayer mode... No one has confirmed this, but It is going to happen....

See my hint up there?

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Fabi
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 4:50:38 PM
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http://www.thebbps.com/blog/2007/05/28/mgs-4-confirmed-for-xbox-360/


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Jordahn
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 5:05:26 PM

^^^Posted on 28 May 2007

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ThePoetRazel
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 5:17:15 PM

"The problem is, no source has been cited for the confirmation. Destructoid poster Rob Workman commented on his own story saying, “Source is me asking and getting confirmation from someone at Konami, and someone at MS. This is not a joke.”"

Yeah, some random joker. That's the best confirmation you'll get for that story. lol

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:14:16 PM
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I've neither heard or seen anything even remotely official about MGS4 going to the 360.

General rule of journalism: unless the news comes directly from the source in question, or the source directly QUOTES the correct source, it's bogus. In this case, I'd need to see something from Konami, Microsoft, or Kojima himself.

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 7:39:59 PM

Listen to Ben people... He speaks the truth... Seriously, if someone came up to you and told you that Xbox 720 or Playstation 4 or even the Wii 2 Came out on that day would you believe them? Yea... I know, I wouldn't neither...

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Minishmaru
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 8:55:41 PM

woah! ps4 is out already? i gotta go get one!....jk :)

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 11:18:54 PM

hehehe lol

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Geosondaman
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 9:14:09 PM
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People seem to have forgotten one point. Let's just say Konami somehow manages to convince Kojima to give his baby to Microsoft for porting (which is HIGHLY unlikely). Imagine how long the game would take to come out for the X360. There are a lot of things they had to change in terms of coding. The engine they're using takes advantage of the PS3's architecture, which is radically different from the X360's. MGS4 came out a bit more than a month ago. Imagine if they start developing on the day that the PS3 version went gold, since it cannot be earlier than that date, PS3 version would have to be finished first. It would take them months to modify the code in order to put it on the X360. By that time, most of the MGS fans would have gotten the game on the PS3 already, the other ppl waited will probably still get the PS3 version due to the embarrasssing multiple disks thing on the X360. So either way, PS3 wins.

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orangpelupa
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 9:15:17 PM
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@geosodaman, woot, 7 post in a row? ultra double post >_<

BTT

this has become a news with many comments :D

back about the same data issue and changing time from day to night etc.

day-night cycle is rendered realtime (atleast most pc games rendered in realtime) so it no need additional data for different textures. each time day change to night and vise-versa.

its called dynamic lighting for dynamic light position etc.....

and about disc lost, its the same, you have 1 BR Disc or 5 DVD. if you lost one you wont be able to play it.
but in DVD, if you already reach disc 2, and you lost disc 1, there no problem :D

[quote=ThePoetRazel]
there's various things in the game that stay the same throughout all acts, game controls for example. All of these would need to be on each disc as well as the act specific stuf[/quote]

thats things in Playstation family is called "modules"
in PS2 is called IRX Modules.its usualy under 100KB :D

i dont know ps3, but modules like that only contain scripts, small scripts.

if konami want it, they can make mgs4 in 5 Disc.

its just like i have said earlier, mgs4 is imposible to port because the story/script.

and if you hate the loading in xbox 360 (like i hate the Lost odyssey loading), you can install the disc, full disc, no partially install to HDD.

xbox360 just like pc --> lol complete with the need of game update, patch, (remember gta 4 and eternal sonata white screen freeze?)

MS added install to hdd option with the next Dashboard updte fall 2008 or autumn 2008 (cant remmember).

and those who buy xbox 360 arcade like me will be doomed. it only have 256 MB MU, so i must keep patience waiting on loading screen :D

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Tatsujin
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 11:24:37 PM

I love the scenario you put it in... You beat disc 1 and now on disc 2, you lost disc one.. big whoop? Ok assmite, what if you lost disc 3, disc 4? Yea, your fucked huh? Buddy, im pretty sure I can keep track of a 1 CD game, and I can keep track of a 10 CD game, but it is much easier to take care of a 1CD game over a 10CD game for many reasons and A) You don't have to worry about putting them all back in one spot with a one CD, cuz all you do is put one back in it's case and done. B) You don't have to worry about losing ANY CDS. C) I am not risking the RRoD... and finally D) I have seen many more updates on the PS3 than the X360 has ever gotten and Linux can run on PS3, I think PS3 is more of a PC (Not windows, a PC (COMPUTER)) than X360 will ever be :)

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orangpelupa
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 11:44:19 PM
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one way or another, losing disc is a trouble for both console.

PS3 only allow partial install, so it still need the disc.
X360 can do Full Install, but MS make it still need a disc on the Drive (for piracy reason).

both console need disc, lost the disc = unplayable

or atleast until someone hacked x360 disc checking system.

now this getting abit out off topic, >_<
ps3 and xbox 360, both can be installed with linux :D

PS3 from FW 1.00 to 2.00 is good for linux, because the RSX can be hacked to work under linux. but now sony already fix that.

so there no Hardware 3D acceleration in linux.

and its slow -___-
but if you use the linux only for word processing, PS3 software Graphic Acceleration will be sufficient for you :D

and with the price of ps3 i already can get faster pc :D

my current pc, i buy it about 6months ago about 300USD-350USD (vga mainboard cpu) already can run Devil May Cry 4 in 1440x900, 4x AA with very high res textures. i have played DMC 4 in X360 and ps3, and the pc version have a lot better graphic.

as for Linux in X360, MS already fix it, so the current x360 on market cant be installed with linux, only old x360 can be installed with linux. (a universal downgrader is on-the-way )

as for RROD
its a fatal design flaw, wont be fixed with Falcon, but Jasper will lower the risk of getting RROD.
and Valhala will fix RROD, because the system design is revaped.


thanks

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Tatsujin
Thursday, July 17, 2008 @ 6:49:53 PM

Honestly, I don't think anything will fix the RRoD -shrug-

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orangpelupa
Wednesday, July 16, 2008 @ 11:48:01 PM
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btw here DMC4 in PC @ 1440x900 2xAA normal quality texture
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/5637/dmc4mo2.jpg

i prefer normal textures, on High Textures sometime my FPS go down to 0, yeah, the game freeze lol

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Pavex
Saturday, July 19, 2008 @ 4:29:37 PM
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@Tatujin...what's this thing you have bout losing discs!?!?!?!?! what did you do in the ps2 era? NOT buy a multi disc game? dude get a grip!! nothing wrong with more than one disc!!!

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Pavex
Saturday, July 19, 2008 @ 4:30:20 PM
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i've NEVER lost a disc.....i like my games to stay UNSCRATCHED!!! (edit) lol

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Pavex
Saturday, July 19, 2008 @ 5:12:30 PM
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oh one MORE thing! you said multi disc games are a thing of the past! oh really? since they had to do some 'playing around' to git mgs4 on ONE blu ray disc.....what you think is gonna happen when they REALLY tap the power of the PS3?!?!?! at LEAST 2 disc games!!!!! q.e.d.! lol

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