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Why Final Fantasy VII-2 Is Coming: A Detailed Perspective

Unless you've been living under a very isolated rock, and haven't left for so much as a bathroom break in the past three months, you're well aware of the impending Square-Enix announcement. They said a Final Fantasy VII-related unveiling will be coming at their private party in August, and instantly, the now-ancient rumor of a remake for the PS3 resurrected.

Now, we've posted all the news and updates on this subject, but we haven't really had time to sit down and view this from the correct perspective: the full and complete perspective. Everyone has differing opinions on whether they want a remake, a sequel, a spin-off of some kind, or whatever, but in order to determine the possibility of any such project, we have to examine the business aspect of things.  What's best for the gamer and Square-Enix?  Of course, this is one franchise that has always sold quite well, but it's no secret that Square-Enix treats FFVII as the one that sits above all other installments. Think about it: we have a whole CGI movie based on the game, the characters are downright deified in Japan and in the US, they released a spin-off on the PS2 (Dirge of Cerberus), and we just had a prequel on the PSP (Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII). Then, Square-Enix says the FFVII products aren't done yet, and this new announcement will certainly focus on what many consider the greatest RPG of all time.

Okay, so here's why we think it'll be Final Fantasy VII-2 - or something to that effect - for the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. First of all, the veteran RPG developer's new penchant for Microsoft's console is clear. FFXIII is headed that way, The Last Remnant debuts first on the 360, and both Infinite Undiscovery and Star Ocean 4 are (for now at least) 360 exclusives. However, as much as PS3 owners might complain, S-E isn't ignoring the system; FFXIII is still coming, and Final Fantasy Versus XIII is still a PS3 exclusive. Hence, we come to the conclusion that no entry in the legendary franchise will miss the PS3 entirely, but at the same time, Square-Enix's new focus on "westward expansion" (as stated by Yoichi Wada himself this year), means FFVII-2 will also be available on the 360. Moving on: Square-Enix has often said the main hurdle for a FFVII remake is that the entire original team must come back together.

Well, that's not entirely necessary for a sequel, is it? It wasn't necessary for the prequel, right? On top of which, it's quite obvious to everyone that this industry is all kinds of sequel-happy. The biggest next-gen sellers so far (GTAIV, MGS4, Halo 3) have been sequels, or if not direct sequels, added installments in long-running franchises. Remakes, on the other hand, haven't fared as well in the sales department. They're not slouches in the world of retail sales, but considering the amount of money S-E would require in order to turn a big profit on such a giant project, they may not want to risk it. Too many younger gamers are simply going to say, "eh, it's just an old game with new graphics." Then again, most everyone has heard of the name, "Final Fantasy VII," so a Square-Enix executive meeting on this subject might come down to one question: will just about everyone respond to a remake of a decade-old game just because they've heard of the name, or will they respond to a brand new sequel of a legendary title? A game that's next-gen the whole way through?

In conclusion, we have the following as potential a priori truths: FFVII is Square-Enix's baby; it still sits atop their company pedestal. Their new western focus means the 360 probably won't be left out of the announcement, and they have to understand that modern-age western gamers would be more interested in a new game than a remake. Sequels with giant names in the titles reap huge rewards. Square-Enix could bypass the biggest obstacles facing a remake by simply focusing on a sequel with an all-star team that may not require "all" the original FFVII members. The prequel just arrived, why not make a sequel? But there's only one major flaw with this theory: Final Fantasy XIII is a huge undertaking. Could they really be developing another equally huge undertaking with FFVII-2 at the same time? It seems impossible. But perhaps all these rumors we've heard over the past three or four years have pointed towards a secret, ongoing project that involves FFVII...and that project may be a sequel.

Lastly, we do remember Final Fantasy X-2, but that was hardly a sales failure, and above all else, there's a very clear difference between a sequel to FFX and a sequel to FFVII.  Obviously, there are about a million other factors to consider, but if we were Square-Enix employees, we get the feeling that of all the possibilities (all the big possibilities), a sequel to the greatest RPG of all time makes the most sense. Dare we hope...?

7/30/2008 Ben Dutka

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Comments (42 posts)

Warukyure [Power User]
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 @ 10:37:58 PM
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I don't care what they make, they just need to make something for the PS2/PSP/PS3. What was seriously the last game to grace one of Sony's consoles? Crisis Core? 4 Months ago? And still nothing on the horizon? Yeah, sure S-E, I'll believe that your console neutral when I see it...

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The_Chimeran
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 @ 10:44:52 PM
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lol i love how you quickly ended the "it's coming to 360" by saying "moving on." And yeah about this game ff7-2 then yeah its a possiblity and really i think that it will sell just as well as a remake, cause really putting ff7 on something does have a impact. And it should appeal to the younger demographic cause i'm 16 and though i heard about ff7 i couldn't play the old one until now and that's just by extreme luck cause i have a friend to give it to me. And since i wanted to be in the flow of ff7 i watched the movie and played crisis core. Moving back i think that something ff7 going xbox is actually gonna be more of a huge deal. ff13 was more like a shock but really not a big deal. FF7 games have always been something playstation owners could brag/love/show-off and expected only on sony machines. So if it goes over to 360 its definitely gonna be more of a deeper ragged wound. (The reason it's ragged is because a ragged wound doesn't heal as nicely as a straight or "clean" wound.) There will be a post about this in the forums, at least if i can figure how it really works.

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Jed
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 @ 10:49:11 PM
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I would be very happy with a remake of ffvii, and would definitley buy it, but I think it might be more fun playing a fresh new sequel, with all the magic of the original.

Off-subject- I guess the new ! icon is to report spam/inappropriate content?

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Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 10:22:40 AM

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MirrorSoul
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 @ 10:55:55 PM
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Ben I know deep in my Heart that what u say here is true and that its highly possible it would end up also on 360....The only thing I want to know is since Sony published it and mabey owns rights to its univers how would they get it on 360...And In my thought I think It would be a Remake with more....They would mabey remake the original game and mabey add the whole Advent Children story and more on to have the series to finally End with the Ultimate Grand Finale and give true closure to all the fans!!(Exactly like theydid with Metal Gear Solid 4)

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Nightshade386
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 @ 10:56:04 PM
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Who else wants to see Tifa in a Lady Luck dressphere?

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aaronisbla
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 12:01:27 AM

*Sadly raises hand*

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ActionJackson
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 @ 11:02:30 PM
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I'd rather they just re-release Final Fantasy VII, tell you the truth. I mean, in order for me to get a copy of it. Used it is like, 80 dollars on eBay. New, it is 300 dollars. If they just re-released it over the PSN, replace the block figures with new character models, and replace the disc partitions and simply let the game continue as one game. The PS1 randomizer can't read from the PS3 emulation of it. So fixing that would be nice. Also having the ability to save game-saves to the hard drive.... I would be happy.

Plus, they would still make a shitload of money. I am not asking for a full-blown remake, just a couple tweaks and so it can run well on the PS3 without us having to go out and buy a PS1 memory card, etc....

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SerendipityDeus
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 @ 11:02:51 PM
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I hope its a sequel, I bought ffvii a few days ago and I'm already in love with the game, I'll definetly buy this whether its a sequel or a remake, I'll be first on line

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The_Chimeran
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 @ 11:15:29 PM
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hey i just noticed there was like 7 comments in 30 mins, i think that's a record.

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karneli lll
Wednesday, July 30, 2008 @ 11:54:19 PM
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i dont think this square announcement will include the 360. if i recall it was said that the announcement will push to sony's advantage

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aaronisbla
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 12:02:29 AM

yeah, i do remember them saying that, but im done getting excited about all of this until it actually happens

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The_Chimeran
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 1:26:58 AM

@aaron, yeah you say that ben when ben writes an editorial or ben writes about a rumor then you know your gonna read it. so really its more like your done with it when ben is done with it. so in other words, ben it's your toturing us all. :p

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aaronisbla
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 5:23:22 AM

Um... No, i meant what i said, im done getting excited about it until its finally announced, officially.

Reading about it is another story, i will read it cuz i read this blog all the time if something new is posted

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Mystearica
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 12:30:39 AM
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I agree with the first point - whatever the game is it'll be on both the 360 and PS3.

As for a sequel - I'm not sure that is it. My thoughts are a)Not all people have played FFVII, b)Not everyone who had a copy still owns one nor does everyone remember the story, c)Not everyone will replay such a long RPG to remember the story, d)FFVII is VERY hard to find so unless they make a reprint then a sequel isn't so great because of points a, b and e and e)Probably around half of the 360 owners never played FFVII so giving them a sequel is like a "huh"?

Just some thoughts - it's all speculation for now and speculation is fun

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HUSO
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 3:55:20 AM

i disagree about the majority of 360 ppl not having played FF7. after all majority of 360 owners are hardcore gamers. so at some point these ppl would have owned a ps1 and thus played ff7.

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ray taylor
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 1:08:11 AM
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All I can say is that I can't wait. Remake, sequel, or x-2 I can't wait to play it.

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orangpelupa
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 1:37:24 AM
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@Mystearica

in my town, a lot PS1 gamer who bought PS2, buy x360. not PS3.

so its good news if FFVII-2 goes multi

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HUSO
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 3:51:06 AM
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IMO if they do a sequel, it'd be done using the Unreal engine. That's SEs answer to quick and productive. And i'm sure if it says Final Fantasy vii somewhere in the title, ppl will still buy it even if the game is sub par. Easy money for SE.

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Minishmaru
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 6:50:43 AM
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I think it might be a sequel...or a plethora of FFVII things such as FFVII original for the PSP with maybe updated CGI scenes, possibly a FFVII-2, or I'm thinking since they do know how well it did originally on the PS...that it'll more than likely do the same for the PS3 and 360...but I think they MIGHT keep it exclusive for the PS3 (timed exclusive albeit an exclusive) just because of how many exclusives the 360 is getting right now. My .2cents anyway XD

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Akuma07
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 9:26:31 AM
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nah.
i think there is more money in a remake.

because no doubt, for a sequal, you would need knowledge of the 1st game, and not EVERYONE has that.

a sequel woudl be for those who either dont care for story, or are fans of the 1st game.

the perfect thing, would be, a remake AND a sequel, a remake by the original team, and a sequel by another team.

and i just personally dont like the idea of making FF sequels.




i STILL think it is a remake for PS3 and 360

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Akuma07
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 9:33:56 AM
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oh and i would just like to add that i think FF7 on the 360 is an INSULT.

not because im a fanboy.

but because it would mean the PS3 version would have to be stooped down to the 360 level, SEVERLY limiting the performance of such a title.

HEY! maybe they should hire Hideo Kojima.

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xXDevilHunterXx
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 10:45:25 AM
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HahaHA, yeah i agree with karneli III, they did say the announcment will help sony

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The_Vandelizer
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 11:09:50 AM
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i dont understand why any Final Fantasys will show up on the 360?

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Scarecrow
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 12:07:55 PM
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VII is actually my least favorite out of all the Playstation FFs. Not that it ain't a great game, I just feel that every other FF which followed it was better in every way, specially when it came to the cast. I seriously don't remember what characters like Yuffie or Red XIII brought to the party.

Anyway if they go ahead with a FFVII remake or sequel FFXIV will be out in 2014, ironic. I'd rather they start working on FFVXIV quickly than a damn remake/sequel.

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Solid_Snake912
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 12:43:58 PM
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Well I am a X360 fanboy, but Like people commented above, I still own my copy of FF7 and I owned a PS2 as well and Im a great fan of FF7 it was my first final fantasy i played :D.
Well I would love to see a remake or sequal to come to X360 but I couldnt see it happening. A sequal would be to PS3 a remake I could see on PS3 and X360 because there re-doing it and bringing it out as new.

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Luan
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 2:48:36 PM

You spelled sequel wrong...Just when i thought the world was perfect...

either way, as for FFVII...dont care if it even comes to Wii as a remake...as long as i get it on blacky (my PS3...it's a she as well) im happy...
either way I just dont see VII-2 happening but HEY! what the hell do i know...

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thorn raven
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 2:19:54 PM
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The exact same goes for me solid snake. A sequel would be cool, but a remake would be more comfortable for the gamers. What in the world would they do for a sequel? I feel that the story line was pretty much brought to a nice close. In terms of money making though, I think they should do both a remake and a sequel then combine it into one package as the complete FF7. I don't know all of the costs and budget for making a game so I couldn't say for sure that this is the best way to make money. But I would buy it. PS3 or XBOX 360.

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cr67
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 2:49:25 PM
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I'd like to see a Halo sequel for the PS3. That game rocks!

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Luan
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 5:51:07 PM

Hehe...you wont be seeing that...Halo is made by Microsoft Studios...and owned by Microshit...unless they team up with sony (theres no chance of that happening in bill gates's lifetime) you wont be seeing that...seriously

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Mista
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 5:02:08 PM
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I hate to see FFVII-2 personally. The best FF games have always been a separate story with separate cast members(excluding Cid of course). Crisis Core was decent just because it helped fill in story elements of VII but every other sequel spin-off was horrible in my opinion... I'm looking at you Dirge. That game would have better as a regular RPG or even action/RPG, Zelda style.

I do remember the announcement specifically stating it was pertaining to PlayStation also. I vote remake... it's been what 2, 3 years almost since that remake trailer was shown at E3. That sounds just about right for them to get the remake done to me.

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makyengo
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 10:05:03 PM
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Hello, everyone! Well, I don't think that this SHOCKING announcement will include Microsoft at all. Why? In a recent interview with Square-Enix they said that the announcement at E3 about FF XIII swung the ball in Microsoft's favor, and at the Square-Enix party on August 2nd and 3rd the FF VII announcement will swing the ball back towards Sony.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 10:16:58 PM
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I do remember that, everyone. But I still think the project might debut on the PS3 (because it has been in development on the system for a while), and then show up later on the 360.

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orangpelupa
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 10:42:30 PM
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^^
as long as it goes multiplatform im happy :D

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d1rty
Thursday, July 31, 2008 @ 11:55:26 PM
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I lov FF7 (the original avent children) dirge not so much, i think they should do the remake cause that's what people are waiting for, that's what got averybody xcited and that's what we saw at the E-show, no sequel no prequel, the exact same game, the buzz and reviews will make the younger player buy it, just look at super mario bros (ds) is there an older game than that and is selling good, for people that have already forgotten, all this buzz and rumors started when they showed the first ff7 teaser(demo) for the ps3, it was no sequel or prequel, it was the 1 made everyone fall in lov with it and the 1 that have everyone talking about it right now the ORIGINAL, nobody want to have another sequel or prequel we already have them with (crisis core and dirge of the cerberus) plus they didn't do that much, so why continue to destroy the image of a (rpg) king, the developement will not be that xpensive and long because the story is already there, they just have to REMAKE IT, maybe if they change the story and the name it's just because they wanna make it multiplatform, sony have the rights so that's the only way to make it multiplatform, changing everything and that could mean another selling failure!!!.

P.s: I'm a ps3 owner but not a sony fan, i really don't care if it comes on the xbox 360, i've learned that being a console fan is not worth-it, you don't get any benefit for being a fan, Sony, microsoft or nintendo really don't care about you, they care about themself, they care about the money you spend, if you don't have money they will not gave you anything just because you're a fan, cuz they sell more or better again will repair your machine for free if it's damaged.
so if the game goes multiplatform i'm happy for the 360 owners they will get to play the game and won't have to spend more money just to play it.

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Jda62
Friday, August 01, 2008 @ 1:54:22 AM
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I feel disappointed in the fans of SE, it seems that most of us don't care that they are becoming more lazy, to make more money by making their product not as good as they can possibly make it. I would say Do not make a remake or a sequel unless if it was coming out for the best system exclusively, and not a single person can argue about the hardware aspects of this fact, the ps3. I believe that then when we can hail "FF7" as the best RPG ever then why would we want a new one that doesn't meet the expectations of the predecessor or surpass it which only the ps3 can allow, hell if it only came out for the computer I would care less. If the XBOX 360 or even the Wii had the best hardware and software then I would be perfectly fine with SE making it as great as it can. Don't reply to this as an Xbox360 fan - make your point on why the xbox even deserves this title, and being a true fan of FF7 you would want anything that deals with it to be the best it possibly can be. Analogy: FF7 is SE's baby - SE should try to do what is best for their baby... I don't think you can argue with that...

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vampko
Friday, August 01, 2008 @ 10:10:19 AM
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I think Ben was saying that after it was utterly optimized for the PS3 and was released PS3 exclusive, it would be ported to the 360. Win-win situation. PS3 owners get optimization, and 360 owners get optimization. I think that Ben is just basically saying that there are no plans for the 360 version yet, but it's inevitable, as it would be good for business.
Although, I do believe that a remake is more probable, I know a sequel seems interesting, but believe me, it's just a rehash of something we've all already seen; Advent Children. Plus, you've got Dirge of Cerberus. Both of those two together, pretty much left no story unexplained. So, a sequel would not be as beneficial as you think. It would be more like a movie game. But a remake, on the other hand, Squenix has held off long enough, that there's many fresh faces to the masterpiece that was FF7. Lots of people today haven't played FF7 before, let alone get a hold of a copy. It's almost like a new game.
And now for something completely different....what if it was a Final Fantasy VII MMORPG ._.

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slimwhoisdirtay
Friday, August 01, 2008 @ 11:12:59 AM
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Didn't Square-Enix announce about a month or so ago that they would no longer do Final Fantasy sequels or prequels? I'm pretty sure they did and if thats the case a FFVII announcement can only be a remake or another movie

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motts76
Friday, August 01, 2008 @ 11:48:16 AM
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It kinda sucks. They should keep the FFVII strickly ps3, and let all the other FFs for multiplatform. I mean FF7 is Playstions baby, why should we share something so awesome with Microsoft. They constantly buy exclusivities to keep Sony out. I think Its a mistake for that to happen, because What the hell do Xbox player know about FF7? They only know from the movie. Come now Square enix use the ps3 to its fullest..... Im gonna buy it reguardless, but would like to say Hey you dont have the greatest rpg ever made Xboxer.

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Kabraxis
Friday, August 01, 2008 @ 2:50:20 PM
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I don't think there is any way a sequel could make more money than a remake.

With a remake, the majority of the people who played the game already will play it again, because they loved it. And also all the younger gamers who have heard of it but are turned off by old graphics will be eager to play it as well.

With a sequel, yes most of the people who played FF7 will play it, but the younger gamers in this situation are far less likely to. They have a choice; between playing a game they won't understand, and going back to play a crap graphics game first, so they can understand this one. Prospective players will be turned off by both of these options.

Also, what would they do with a sequel!? Would it be after AC? Would they bring Sephiroth back AGAIN? It will just be silly. I think the story is done.

And I also think it's very unnecessary to have the original team in order to do a remake. All they need to do is copy what they have, and simply use pretty graphics. The people who did the graphics and character models for AC and CC did a great job, they would be fine for this. I think it would be more necessary to have the original team for a sequel, because you are trying to make something like the original, which would be more successful with the people who made the original. For copying though, anyone can copy someone else's work, especially when the only not being copied is aesthetics, everything else is just data.

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pillz81
Friday, August 01, 2008 @ 9:47:36 PM
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I won't waste my time on the original PS1. I would DEFINITELY play a remake. Although, the Advent Children DVD has Reminiscence of Final Fantasy VII Story Digest.

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tearendil
Thursday, August 07, 2008 @ 3:19:05 AM
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Ok first of all, Scarecrow needs to go die in a fire. FFVIII better than VII? You're on something. That said, here's my input for all you folks:
There actually is a remake, and it's coming much sooner than most would think, but so far only to the PS3, no news on 360 yet. I work at a very reliable and well-known company, and I've seen a solid release date on this game for some time now, it's even posted in our stores. You'll just have to go look around to see which stores I'm talking about!
As for FFXIII...well, I wouldn't be surprised if a demo came soon, but the amount of data this game is going to hold might even require it to be on more than one Bluray game disk...so a demo could be too big to even consider, who knows. (btw for those who may not know, one Bluray disk can equal up to 50GBs of info, over 5 times what a dual layer dvd can hold.)
Until more solid info comes out, I leave you with these goodies!

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