Molyneux Says PS3 Still Doesn't Have "Definition Title"

Even if you're not too familiar with Microsoft gaming platforms, you probably know who Peter Molyneux is...he's the guy who created Black and White and Fable, and you may also remember him hyping the latter as being "the greatest RPG ever." That really didn't turn out to be the case, but it was still a relatively solid game. Now, he's on the hype path again, this time promoting the sequel, Fable II.

But it's his comments during a GamesIndustry.biz interview that's going to gain the attention of PlayStation 3 owners. In regards to his current feelings on Sony's machine, he said the system is "still waiting for that definition title that represents the platform." Clearly, he hopes Fable II will be that game for the 360 (although it's tough competition with Halo 3, Mass Effect, and Gears of War), and perhaps he's referring to Wii Sports or The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess for the Wii. However, Molyneux did give props to Media Molecule concerning LittleBigPlanet, and he says he's "incredibly proud of what they've done." "It's just an amazing experience to see how their game has progressed," Molyneux added, and we must add that several members of the LBP development team are ex-Lionhead employees... I mean, we're just saying.

Anyway, while we understand the sentiment, we have to protest. Just a little. If Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots isn't a "defining" title for the PS3, than we don't know what to call it. We also think Uncharted: Drake's Fortune is under-appreciated, but perhaps not a "definition" game. How can we forget MGS4, though? Come on, Molyneux, you should be hoping Fable II can stand up to that one. Oh, and one last thing: LBP and Fable II come out on the same day: October 21. :)

9/21/2008 Ben Dutka

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Reccaman18
Sunday, September 21, 2008 @ 10:41:55 PM
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I get tired of people saying crap like this. I guess he just missed MGS4. I mean, the game is a big time system seller, after all.

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Qubex
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 2:46:18 AM

Agree 100%... it is really tiring to listen to all the bull***t out there! MGS and GT games own on the PS3, they are the definitive titles I think, others such as LBP and KZ2 will just add to that in the coming months, besides the innovative PSN titles that keep on pushing ideas and the like forward!

Q!

"aLL RoAds LeAd ToO HoMe"

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Aftab
Sunday, September 21, 2008 @ 11:01:24 PM
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Ratchet and Clank, Uncharted, Metal Gear, Resistance, Killzone, Warhawk, Grand Turismo 5, WipeOut, MotorStorm, Little Big Planet, GOW3... Only thing missing is an exclusive RPG. I'm sure one of those will be coming along real soon, not to mention whatever Team ICO has up there sleeves. So, I guess, he is entitled to his erroneous opinion, but the games speak for themselves.

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karneli lll
Sunday, September 21, 2008 @ 11:09:00 PM
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A defining title? i guess resistance, gt n all of sony's AAA exclusives dont count huh? He's probably pissed coz there's a problem with his exclusivity deal with ms. He should make a game thats greater than 8gb,n maybe,just maybe i can listen to his crap!

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AceTatsujin
Sunday, September 21, 2008 @ 11:40:17 PM
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LBP is gonna outsell Fable 2, I'm wondering if it is going to suprass GTA IV ... I mean, if they do ... that'll be freaking amazing!

And I agree with you on MGS IV and Unchartered, Ben.

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WaR_HaWk
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 12:00:26 AM
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FY MR BALD MAN

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Affliction17
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 12:11:36 AM
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Yeah I'd say MGS4 was def. a defining PS3 no doubt about it.

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Advent Child
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 12:14:37 AM
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This guy just sounds like hes tooting his own horn. WAY too ego!

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Troy Powers
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 1:12:00 AM
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Actually, I agree with him. PS3 has had some fantastic games, but it really hasn't had that defining title. I think MGS4 isn't it just because it isn't accessibly to everyone. From what I understand MGS4 is a game that anyone can play, but if you haven't been following the series, then it isn't going to have nearly as much meaning for you.
When you think Xbox 360, you immediately think GoW and Halo. MGS4 isn't that for PS3. Great game, but not the one. I don't think LBP will be either. I'm thinking it's going to be God of War 3. Or it may have to be something completely new like Halo was for the first Xbox, and Gears was for the 360.

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eLLeJuss
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 10:23:45 AM

not really, even though you haven't been following the series, the game is still amazing. i've only played mgs3, but the experience i had playing mgs4 was a blast =).

and i think LBP > Fable 2 =P

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Aftab
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 11:25:17 AM

Gears and Halo were "big" and "defining" if you didn't play them, and that was due to well-timed/funded marketing. But if you speak to the average xbox owner, they'll have a lot more to say about COD4, for example. I'm not saying those games were bad. They were far from that. But if PS3 doesn't have a defining title, then so doesn't the 360, especially since the top game on Live is multiplatform!

Last edited by Aftab on 9/22/2008 11:27:59 AM

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BIG_E
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 1:50:18 PM

gears isnt defining its also a ps2 innovation check out killswich.Halo3 was hyp and before you comment,IM NO"FANBOY"I own a xbox360,ps3,pc,wii,ps2,ps1,atari jaguar ,sage saturn.

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dlte
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 1:14:31 AM
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whats with the haircut?

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infekt
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 2:17:19 AM
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Ah. Hes just a corporate troll. Don't worry boys and girls.

@Troy Powers: My wife has never played the MGS series but she picked up MGS4 just fine. In fact, I can't get her to stop playing the game so that I can watch my hockey on TV!

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cheng
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 2:21:14 AM
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xbox360 = halos,gears,lost odyssey.

ps3 = MGS4, resistance 2(soon enough),(insert any exclusive rpg here)

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Ultimadream
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 3:06:02 AM
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Be honest people, Fable 2 is going to be far better than LBP. Fable 1 was the only title that stood out on the XBOX, its the only game i wanted from the XBOX to be on the PS2.

and MGS4 is a PS3 definitive title, its why most people bought a PS3, it would have been the same with FF13.......

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Aftab
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 11:38:57 AM

You might as well be comparing Fable 2 to Pacific Rift, because they are from two entirely different genres.

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ThePoetRazel
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 4:18:57 AM
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The PS3 doesn't need a "defining" game. The system is too big to be defined by one game alone.
That's why i dislike the Xbox brand. You only hear of a couple of games that people buy those for (Halo, Gears, etc) and little else. While the PS3 has tones of games that get people salivating.

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Aftab
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 11:39:39 AM

Agreed.

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Tim Speed24
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 2:41:34 PM

You nailed it PoetRazel, 2 good games that are not available for PS3. While PS3 has a half dozen that you can't buy for the 360. Heck, 3 of the PS3 exclusives would not even fit on XBox360 format.

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fame_in_game
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 4:21:14 AM
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fable and LBP different games but i prefer lbp for being so different....and xbox has game like tht because games are so hype by mycrosoft they become stuck to your head....i mean wen i think ps2 gow comes to mind....so maybe gow3 but anyways ps2 had too many games for me to only think of one....not like nintendo=mario...if killzone delivers it might be it too...

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Ultimadream
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 5:08:29 AM
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Actually i just saw a more detailed game play video, little big planet probably will beat fable 2.

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NiteKrawler
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 7:14:27 AM

Yea I definitely think LBP will outsell Fable 2. Maybe if F2 was multi platform it would stand a chance against LBP but I doubt it. I really liked the first Fable and wish the second one was on PS3. As for Fable being the only game that stood out on xbox, almost everyone would say Halo is the first thing that comes to mind, not Fable.

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www
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 7:50:20 AM
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Fable looks dumb,he's just tryna get a lil bit of lbp hype to his fable,as lbp has overshadowed most october releases.This is just a situation of an unsigned artiste dissin a major artist for attention(just biness strategies).
By the way Gears will still remain 360 definin game not fable and for ps3 it will be lbp or GoW 3

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Aftab
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 11:42:08 AM

Check out the top game on Xbox Live. It ain't Gears. It's not even an exclusive.

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bamf
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 8:48:14 AM
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He's too busy hyping up his ow game to even know what games are out on the PS3.

@the poetrazel
Phil Harison once said that Playstation consoles don't have one or two killer apps, i=they have a kiler library. This is why I prefere the PLaystation console over the others. You can find great games in every genre while you can't with the other consoles.

360 fans consider Gears and Halo to be the best games out. For me I wouldn't want a console jst to have the 2 best games ever. I would rather have a console that has a bunch of amazing titles with different varieties.

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Tim Speed24
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 2:43:40 PM

What he said.....whooot!

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shreevin
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 9:21:39 AM
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Well of course he's hyping Fable 2 on the 360, Microsoft is publishing it! If he had a different publishing house it would probably be coming out on the PS3 then he would say F2 is going to be it's defining game. Ben is right. LBP and F2 are coming out on the same day so his blathering is transparent, pay him no mind.

Me? I intend to get both, but LBP will be first definitely.

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Daedusian
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 11:35:47 AM
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He's either having a bad day or is just jealous of the PS3's lineup of games this year. Yeah the PS3 doesn't have that "defining" title but the PS3 does have a defining library of games, like others have said here. I think he knows that he is going to have some tough competition with LBP, R2, GeoW2, etc.

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cr67
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 1:34:42 PM
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I have to agree with ThePoetRazel on this one.
"The PS3 doesn't need a defining title. It's too big of a system to be defined by one game alone".
I couldn't have said it better myself. Who cares what this corporate dweeb thinks anyways?

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shaydey77
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 2:22:07 PM
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Halo for XBOX360.
Metal Gear Solid 4 for Ps3.
and yes im one of those who waited until mgs4 came out before id buy a ps3.and what a game!

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MadPowerBomber
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 3:41:43 PM
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All these comments that other developers say about one another are really awkward.

You know what is and has been a defining game for me since the PS1 on all of Sony's consoles? Tekken. In fact, one of the reasons I was so desperate to get a PS3 was because of Tekken 5: Dark Resurrection. and despite all the Grand Theft Autos, the Metal Gear Solids, the Soul Caliburs, the Star Wars games, so on and so forth, my default game of preference is Tekken.

Tekken is a pretty defining game for me.

Sadly, if Tekken did come out for the 360, I wouldn't have raced out and got that console. Haha. I cannot stand playing fighting games on Microsoft's controllers. SNK vs. Capcom Chaos killed that idea for me.

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Skwidd
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 4:12:57 PM

AMEN, MADPOWER! Are you on the Zaibatsu forums as well :) I bought my PS3 for 3 reasons:
Tekken
MGS4
Ace Combat

But I was screwed on Ace Combat (thanks Namco!) I hope I wont be waiting long for Tekken though.

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Alienange
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 8:45:57 PM

I bought Ace Combat as well. Can I get my $20 back?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 4:25:34 PM
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This guy looks like a space alien. Full-on mondo agreement that he is just trying to grab up LBP's gusto. He knows some people who own both systems will only have enough for either-or come Oct 21st and he knows along with M$ that RPGs DO get gobbled up (even though I'd say Fable was an Action Adventure)BEAR IN MIND: the playlife of Fable 2 is 12 hours minus sidequests and LBP is literally an unending game. I'm tellin ya, he knows PSX sites pick up these stories to incite comment and thus gain advertising space, so if he can get on our sites and say his title is better then he has accomplished his mission because some fanboys believe whatever M$ tells them. Also, that "Im proud of them" about Media Molecule was totally a veiled dig, like a father being proud of a kid who managed to keep his cheese from sliding off his cracker. VERY low indeed.

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Alienange
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 8:45:04 PM

"Cheese from sliding off his cracker"

Thanks for the monday night laugh... that's just too funny.

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mildmike
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 8:00:12 PM
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I absolutely 100% agree with this point of view. I have loved owning a playstation of one version or another since 1997. I bought my PS3 on launch day in Aus. (March '07) and am still waiting for that elusive "definitive title". It seems to me that most game developers aren't really trying, and are just hoping to cash in.I can not remember ever feeling this let down by a piece of technology. To me the PS3 was an anti-climax as I mostly still just play old PS2 and PS games cos the new games just don't cut it.

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Alienange
Monday, September 22, 2008 @ 8:44:00 PM
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@ mildmike - I'll be the first to admit it... you're nuts. Have you played any of Peter Molyneux's games? Now talk to me about "anti-climax"

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eLLeJuss
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 12:30:47 AM
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anyweiz. ps2 defining game for me was FFX.. LOL.. =).. i love that game.. too bad ffXIII isnt exclusive =(..

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Aftab
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 10:45:57 AM
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Ton histoire m'a coupé l'appétit. Just look at that smug smile of his!!!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 26, 2008 @ 6:12:20 PM
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Molly here is in hot water with M$, it seems he is on a leash because he isn't overhyping all his stuff as is consistent with the M$ company line. I quote: "I get into an awful lot of trouble for that," he said. "Now Microsoft has put these PR policemen in the same room to make sure I don't trip over myself."

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