Valve On PlayStation 3: "We Don't Have The Bandwidth"

Before you finish reading this article, we sense your eyes will have rolled skywards at least several times.

1Up recently interviewed Valve co-founder Gabe Newell and marketing director Doug Lombardi, and they got on the topic of PS3 development. This isn't a fun topic for Valve, especially considering the unbridled hostility we've seen from PS3 owners in the past few years, all directed towards Valve's lack of support. Anyway, Valve just released a set of free updates for Team Fortress 2 for the PC, and they're also coming to the Xbox 360. Are they coming to the PS3 version of the game? Nope. Of course not. After all, Valve has no internal PS3 developers. Lombardi said as much, and Newell said this is the reason why EA handled the port of The Orange Box last year...which didn't turn out very well. As for the ongoing controversy surrounding Left 4 Dead, and whether or not it will go to the PS3, don't hold your breath. Newell said, quite simply, "we don't have the bandwidth. What the heck does this even mean? Couldn't they get the bandwidth if they wanted to?

Newell did say they are looking to get some in-house PS3 developers at some point in the future, but at this point, PS3 owners may not care very much. Some have just replied, "what are we really missing?" So far, just the best version of The Orange Box, but that's about it. Anyway, while it's good to hear that Valve will try to jump into the PS3 development waters at some point, they've got a long ways to go before they redeem themselves.

9/23/2008 Ben Dutka

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AceTatsujin
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 10:12:03 PM
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.......... =/ Sad.

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NuCl3aR32
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 10:13:02 PM
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Its disappointing that great games like portal and half-life are developed by such stubborn people. Otherwise I would care less for valve.

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Alienange
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 10:15:44 PM
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I now officially hate Valve.

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John Shoemaker
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 10:25:27 PM
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What's new.
Sony could pay them $50 million and they would still pass along all development to someone else to make the game.
I've come to terms with this, and this is why I have a gaming PC that can run HL2 so I can play Episode 3.

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BeezleDrop
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 10:36:05 PM
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Damn valve and they're inferiority. So the Half Life series is pretty great. But the ps3 community won't get to experience Left 4 Dead which is very bad news. There is no excuse good enough.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 10:39:46 PM
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valve, in my head, is like the appendix. it might have been important at some point in the past,but that was so long ago no one cares anymore.

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orangpelupa
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:08:21 PM
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maybe sony should assist valve in creating PS3 port....
or educate Valve about PS3 achitecture

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Thinker
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 11:26:29 AM

Now that would all work if Valve were interested in doing that - seems Valve are more interested in shirking that aspect of work and offering excuses/fake justifications.

Last edited by Thinker on 9/24/2008 11:27:23 AM

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arctic
Tuesday, September 23, 2008 @ 11:58:20 PM
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I now officially hate Valve too.

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MetalHead09
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 1:21:11 AM
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im not to familiar with valve but they have got to be the most naive people Ive ever heard of.

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JPBooch
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 1:22:55 AM
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I don't hate them yet, but I'm really not liking them. They can go piss up a rope until they realize how much money they are going to screw themselves out of. dumb move.

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dlte
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 1:35:21 AM
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maybe valve shouldn't be so lazy. they have an opportunity to make money, especially with the install base growing in numbers every day. but hey, their loss.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 1:50:09 AM
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Valve is garbage, nothing has changed.
They just like whining so that 360 fanboys keep supporting their outdated franchises.

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DIsmael85
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 10:44:10 AM

Hehe you tell'em Scarecrow. I personally don't care anymore to what Gabe and them say. I loved the PS3 version of the Orange Box. I never really got into Team Fortress 2, so I don't feel Im missing much. Now as for Left 4 Dead, here we go again with them messing up with gamers. It's already multiplatform, they might as well take it the next step and let it go to the PS3. I think EA could handle it this time, considering they have learned a thing or two since then. Even though Dice is making Mirror's Edge, EA still owns it and it was developed on the PS3 hardware. So mean come on.

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Ultimadream
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 1:50:33 AM
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I never heard of them, too be frank, i don't care either.

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GamerKid123
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 2:03:23 AM
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IMHO i think their making a BIG mistake here, there is quite alot of money to be made on the PS3 market nowadays, why don't they come to terms with this and TRY to make the damned PS3 port!

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SerendipityDeus
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 6:24:20 AM
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This is all pretty sad, they're pissing me off with all this nonsense, all we're asking is for alittle bit support over here, nothing to big, but they can't even do that watch them regret this in the future...BOYCOTT VALVE I SAY!!

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Alienange
Thursday, September 25, 2008 @ 9:29:47 PM

I've already started.

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MirrorSoul
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 6:26:56 AM
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Vale has a pretty good resource of money and if they were truly serious about making money on the PS3 they would invest a PS3 studio.Hell if Crytech is giving full support in thier next game and Valve isnt, there just strait being lazy.I could understand if the tides had never changed for the PS3 and it was still doin horrible but its the best consule to own right now.....those idiots just dont make sense!!

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Aftab
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 8:31:27 AM

Agreed.

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Troy Powers
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 7:57:18 AM
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Bandwidth?!!? WTF?
Do they mean a hardware thing like between the GPU and something else?
Are they trying to download a PS3?
What kind of response is that?

lol...I'm going to start using this as my answer to everything.
Troy, why didn't you take out the garbage last night?
I didn't have enough bandwidth.

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www
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 8:35:28 AM

LOL!

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Aftab
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 8:59:42 AM

Hey, I'm sure the fatman uses that excuse with the ladies all the time! Although, bandwidth does refer to both those things you guessed about, he is actually using it in the way you have in the latter: Capacity. They don't have enough ps3 know-how, right now, and so this is why they may hire ps3 developers (which is a very tough market) in the future.

What is most annoying, and baffling, of his attitude, really, is how dismissive he is to his actual customers. Sure, the average consumer won't know who he is or what he has said, but the fan base, which half-life franchise relies heavily on, will certainly know, especially those who were introduced to the series by the Orange Box! I know I was certainly looking out for Half-Life 3. The series had a great story, and the orange box, despite being unoptimally ported, was one of my favorite packs from this generation. But now, even though I have a 360, I'm not holding my breath, and if I do get it, i will definitely pick it up used... and not because I want to save money.

Last edited by Aftab on 9/24/2008 9:03:34 AM

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Qubex
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 8:00:14 AM
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Useless really!

Q!

"all RoAds LeAd ToO HoMe"

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Xanavi23
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 8:05:12 AM
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Yea, Valve has firmly established themselves as the Losers of the videogame developing community. In all truth unless a developer is own by one of the platforms(Ex: Sony > PD) then the wisest choice for a Dev is to cater to all platforms/systems. So not only are these guys worthless fanboys who haven't outgrown it, but they also follow idiotic business practices. Goodwork...have a cookie...Loser.

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www
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 8:34:06 AM
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It's simple,Sony don't have time 4 valve n vice versa,why? Cause Sony don't understand why they should get on they knees n beg valve to learn ps3 architecture,cause to Sony valve or no valve they got nun to loose,they have better things to think about like MediaMolcule,Quantic Dream,Square etc.
Damn! Do we now have to beg devs to make games 4 a system,nonsense.Sony is a real confident company n not shaky like MS.Sony walks thru the shadows of the valley of gamin competition it fears no defeat.

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Highlightreel
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 9:14:55 AM
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They do seem redonkulously naive. But I agree, what are we reeealllly missing anyways?
They're probably just waiting for EA's buyout offer...(if they don't own them already)

Last edited by Highlightreel on 9/24/2008 9:15:29 AM

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xStatiCa
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 9:32:40 AM
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This is really unacceptable to the customers that bought this game. If valve had EA port it then they certainly should of had an agreement that EA would also port any fixes or feature enhancements that are made to the other platforms. Not doing so makes valve responsible in that respect and EA responsible in the fact that they do not care to make sure a game they ported is updated while other platforms are updated by Valve.

I bought the PC version a year ago and just bought the PS3 version 2 months ago and prefer to play the PS3 version because the port wasn't really that bad to me and the PS3 version is more convenient for me to play.

Last edited by xStatiCa on 9/24/2008 9:35:53 AM

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Wazomba
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 10:22:32 AM
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Left For Dead may still be coming to the ps3 publishe by EA, theres a article on CVG today about it, as for valve don't really care about them, they are just stubborn and can't be bothered to produce games for the ps3 IMO.

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Cuetes
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 10:22:55 AM
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"We don't have enough bandwith", Its more like valve aint got big enough cojones. In the end they lose, alienating the ps3 leaves 10 million ps3's searching for other game. Way to go, you will always be a mediocre developer with them business practices.

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xtreme
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 10:46:58 AM
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Firstly I'd actually like to admit that as a avid PC gamer (gamers play across more than one platform) valve are my favourite developer BUT I agree 100% with all ps3 owners. valve does treat the ps3 with little to no respect and its a real shame because I feel that the ps3 is by far the best console on the market. let just hope that they will try ALOT harder in future with regards to the PS3.
Look at what they do on the PC and you can see that they know what there doing when making great games it's just plain laziness if you ask me and alot of fanboyism.

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orangpelupa
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 10:49:32 AM
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valve.....
i know valve is more an PC game dev than ps3 game dev, but not releasing game in PS3 is really a bad decission.

and the reason is "We don't have enough bandwith"....
what the..... bandwidth as the only reason they not releasing ps3 version?

wew...

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 11:27:39 AM
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I can't go to school today...I don't have enough bandwith...

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giant123
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 6:12:15 PM

scarecrow nice... i dont have enough bandwith to go to school today

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DcIronfist
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 11:33:02 AM
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If valve wants to cater to one part of the market, thats up to them. In the end they are only hurting themselves with profits.

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cheng
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 12:53:34 PM
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"dont have enough bandwith"...ok can someone explain wats tat supposed to mean cause i'm totally lost here x(

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LightShow
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 4:37:41 PM
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If they dont want my business, i dont want their games.

It would have been simple enough to fib and pull the line "The PS3 is harder to program for cause we're not used to it" and people would just be miffed that valve hasn't gotten with the program. Right now i feel like an afterthought, and that valve can TOTALLY do without my money.

well, cool. I'm happy to oblige. I'll go spend my cash where it's wanted.

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shaydey77
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 4:55:27 PM
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Im unfamiliar with any good games they have made so im not bothered.Its not like the Ps3 is stuck for games now anyway IMO. especially for this holiday season and the start of next year..KZ2 and GT5..yum!

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Daedusian
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 7:10:58 PM
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I really like the Half Life series too, but now I gotta find a way to steal a copy of Episode 3 so I don't have to give them any money, lol jk. But honestly, this is ridiculous!

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Xanavi23
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 7:21:37 PM
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Besides, No updated new PS3 platform CounterStrike = I dont care about Valve.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, September 24, 2008 @ 7:41:10 PM
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From now on, it's going to be the PSXE excuse. "Why didn't you report on that?" "...er, we didn't have the bandwidth."

Not that we miss reporting on things. ;)

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Minishmaru
Thursday, September 25, 2008 @ 5:02:25 PM
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Valve isn't even really worth reporting on...what's the last thing they've done besides crap on the PS3

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