Will The PlayStation 3 Become The Ultimate FPS Console?

resistance 2 is head and shoulders above halo 3, there's no doubt. i give it the edge over Bioshock as well.

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I completely agree
x360 just has some mediocre games which are overrrated like Gears 2/halo 3 etc

PS3 has the best gaming library and definitely REsistance 2 is better than all games on x360

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R2 being better than Halo 3 is no way in Hell a fact. That is a statement of opinion. Even so, if you wanted to say it was a fact you would need statements to back it up. Halo 3 received mostly 10's and many awards. R2 has yet to get even one 10 from a major game site and any awards remains to be seen. R2 is a great game and I will put it in the top 3 of fps games for sure for the current generation. (Halo 3, R2, and?)

I know this is a PS3 website and I'm going to take a lot of flak for this, but Ben I believe you are being somewhat bias in regards to that comment. You are probably the only CREDIBLE video game professional on earth that would even say this. I hope you and everyone understand that I am not trying to start a fight I'm just stating what I feel and stats to back it up.

You saying that is like someone saying Lebron James is better than MJ. MJ=6 rings. LJ=0 You have a right to your opinion, but when you say "thats the fact of the matter" that is somewhat bias. Especially when the rest of the world has spoken and you are in the EXTREMELY small minority.

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Last edited by n/a on 11/6/2008 11:20:09 PM

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DUDE HALO franchise is SUper OveRrated. LOL. same goes for GeoW franchise.

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In your opinion. I believe over-rated is a game that gets real hyped up and everyone that plays it says its better, but it doesnt get nearly the ratings and awards from the general consensus as the other game. R2 is the only one out of those that falls in that category buddy.

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Last edited by n/a on 11/6/2008 11:28:03 PM

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I think halo 3 and r2 have different strengths and weaknesses. I think resistance has a better story and a better campaign. Online can be played without lag which is nice and the coop is well done. On the the other hand, halo 3 you can have co-op on the main campaign which is nice to have. And forge is crazy and creative but don't really need it. But what I would say is halo 3's greatest strength is the theatre. I think that its amazing and wish R2 had it. This coming from a ps3 owner.

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I think Halo was nothing but a mediocre shooter.

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@Ben I agree, I feel that R2 is better than Halo. Halo's story made me lose interest in even playing. I had fun in the multi-player online, but that's it.
P.s. U guys are starting to get me giddy for this Killzone 2. I don't what its about or if its good. But I've only been hearing nothing but great things.

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i only bought xbox 1 cuz of FPS. right now i think ps3 is an FPS console, and xbox 360 is slowly becoming an RPG console.

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Well all RPGS on x360 have flopped so far
Valkyrie Chronicles alone is better than all RPGS on x360

x360 is just a flop box 360. It has no games

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@wasim, thts a really biased comment.either you are very ignorant or you are just a Microsoft Hater. i suggest that your play all the RPGs on xbox 360 first and thenmake such a comment.

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over rated would be a game that gets reviews far above what it deserves. Halo 3 was one of those games.

not saying it wasn't good but i've played through both and the opinions of a lot of reviewers aside resistance 2 is the better game.

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agree

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could you name one please? wait you said alot. could you name all of them?

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Last edited by n/a on 11/7/2008 12:09:35 AM

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Rocketman, he said "and the opinions of a lot reviewers aside": meaning despite their contrary opinion.

And you criticised Ben for not giving supporting evidence for his opinion, yet, your only evidence of your claim is the opinions of others, or the "general consensus". Well, in that case, the "general consensus" at this site says R2 pwns Halo3.

Seriously though, I won't make a claim because from Halo3, I've only played some death matches. But from Resistance 2, I must say, I am getting more impressed as I play...very impressed.

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Last edited by Aftab on 11/7/2008 12:43:13 AM

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sorry, double post.

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Last edited by Ogibillm on 11/6/2008 11:37:47 PM

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this what i dont like with sony ps3...

i love my PS1, and PS2, both have great RPGs. but PS3 is more and more becoming FPS console....

and sony still not allow using KB+Mouse in PS3 games :(
if sony really love FPS in PS3, please, please make me can use my KB and Mouse.

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While I like FPS, I like RPGs better. Here, I think OrangePelupa is right - Sony should work with Developers to make it standard for KB/Mouse support for FPS, so that it caters to a broader range of gaming styles rather than just the Controller.

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But I guess the problem with that though is the huge advantage people with a KB & mouse are gonna have online.

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I dont like the the PS3 the games break to easy.

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i've never had any problems with the durability of the blu ray discs...

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@mega gamer
u mean x360

since x360 has 33% RROD rate and all its games are bad looking and bad playing overrrated crap

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I amazed at some people (xbots), who go through the trouble of registering up for a site, just to leave stupid remarks...

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u can say a lot of crap about the ps3, but the game discs don't even get scratched after a lot of use. mebbe u have barbed wire in ur ps3

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lol BluRays are stronger than dvd's. The coating is stronger because BluRays are thinner due to the laser being closer to the surface. So to say they 'break too easy' is like saying a honda lasts longer than a ferrari.

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"WHAT" FOOL PS3 BLURAY'S ARE MORE DURABLE THAN DVD.Fanboy alert get a ps3 get a job first.

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Rocketman, if you can't find a way to be smarter than this, you're going to have to leave. All you DO is start fights, so don't give me this crap about how you're not trying to cause problems.

Halo 3 came out last year. In one year in this industry, a great deal changes. At the time, critics can only compare to what we already have, which is why something like the original Medal of Honor would get a 9+ way back in the days of the PS1 but in comparison to what we have now, would probably get a 2. It's about compare and contrast. At the time, Halo 3 was the best there was.

R2 has a better story. The graphics are better (although not better than Gears 2). The single-player campaign is far superior. The multiplayer is more diverse and offers 60-player online. The variety of environment - changing from city to city and country to country - is better. I am NOT the only credible critic who is going to say R2 is better than Halo 3. In fact, you're going to be hard-pressed to find one who says Halo 3 wins without any debate. And even so, if you want one example, IGN (a "credible" source, I would assume) gave both Halo 3 and Resistance 2 a 9.5. And I will bet you every penny I have that the critic will say a 9.5 THEN and a 9.5 NOW are two different things. This is only common sense.

And there's no way to cite "facts" when it comes to this kind of thing, so don't use that dodge, either. I don't see YOU providing any reasons why Halo 3 is better. How about giving it a try? You know, there's a reason why there are professional critics and then gamers like you who think they know everything. Why? Because you DON'T.

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Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 11/7/2008 12:55:17 AM

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@rocketman1, PSX EXtreme doesn't need a another jackass like you to start arguments and flamewars they've got me for this stuff LOL

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Yes, Rocketman. When compared to R2, Halo3 does look a bit last gen. And another thing, "bias" is a form of "denial". Neither are excusable.

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@ Ben,

You are too tolerant of tools like Rocketman1 and Sabit. You need to smite them with your editorial hand of God and ban them from this site before every thread on this site becomes a flame/system war.

As far as Gears 2's graphics being better than R2, I'm not going to argue that; but Gears 2's graphics are not much better, if at all, than Gears 1's graphics... maybe slightly.

Insomniac could have given R2 better graphics, but I believe Ted Price went with the more-stylized look rather than realistic. So, when you look at the graphics, which are vastly superior than R1, like that they are very nice.

Besides, from what I've seen of K2, its graphics will blow everything else out of the water come 2009. Have you seen the new trailer?

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@Rocketboy: When that "bias", forces you to disrespect other fellow HUMANS because of a GAME, as if they were talking about your mother, then that is no longer human nature. That is the complete lack thereof. You seem to be in "denial" about that.

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Last edited by Aftab on 11/7/2008 10:24:28 AM

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Hey Ben,

While I think you were correct in warning "Rocketman", I think you should be a bit more balanced with your warnings. Surely "wasim" was guilty of bias as well, and to a similar degree? The only difference was that his bias was in support of the PS3.

So, as far as being fair is concerned, I think you can do better. This is just my opinion. If I offended by doing so, I apologize.

Regards,
MTK

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Those folks weren't given the boot because they had "bias" or were "fanboys". They were summarily removed because they were incessantly flaming every board (particularly involving Resistance 2).

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Never could have predicted all of this, I got my PS3 cuz common sense said it would be the home for RPGs, but since RPGs are failing on poopbox maybe there is time yet for PS3 to be more than an FPS console.

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RPG are dying now man. Lack of innovation like the fps genre.

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Fanboys always act butt-hurt. If you have a problem with me then have out with it right to me, otherwise point that Crazy elsewhere.

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hey ben are you not a big fan of multiplayer as well?
cause i certainly cannot buy a game if it concentrates 90% on multiplayer. i need a good story in the single player.

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Last edited by Sir Shak on 11/7/2008 1:51:58 AM

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Killzone 2 = Best FPS I've played so far. Nothing is like this game.

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Hey Rocketman - could you start saying biased? The way you're using bias is wrong. It's annoying. :
Arguments go down the drain if they use such bad grammar/spelling, it shows you either have dyslexia, are really young, or are not good at spelling (inferring you have low intelligence). Just a tip for future arguments.

But yeah, it's interesting the way the PS3 is going. Perhaps with the recent blu-ray wars won, more developers are happy to shift to PS3 as they're guaranteed to have a system that will last, while the Xbox360, while having its strengths, doesn't offer that much new hubbub?

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Last edited by PhilipJWitow on 11/7/2008 1:54:06 AM

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So you talk about my spelling, but then you use misplaced commas, and start off sentences with "but yeah",and make up words? Corrections go down the drain if you say words like hubbub. Plus everything else you said shows you either have no brain, are really young, or are not good at writing (inferring you have low intelligence). Just a tip for future corrections.

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Halo3 was advertised TOO much you saw those things everywhere, at 7-11's, bus stations, buildings, microsoft paid tons of money when CoD4 didnt have to advertise as much and it just simply outdid it. R2 > H3 anyday

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ed⋅i⋅to⋅ri⋅al   [ed-i-tawr-ee-uhl, -tohr-] Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. an article in a newspaper or other periodical presenting the opinion of the publisher, editor, or editors.
2. a statement broadcast on radio or television that presents the opinion of the owner, manager, or the like, of the station or channel.
3. something regarded as resembling such an article or statement, as a lengthy, dogmatic utterance.

Just 'cause SOME people need to learn what an editorial is. They're opinions, bias is allowed.

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You beat me to it! People need to learn to tolerate other people's opinions. They don't realize how ignorant, fanboyist they appear when they write: "Your opinion is wrong. My opinion is right!"

Furthermore, as an editor/writer myself, all the bad spelling/grammar and writing I see on the Internet gives me a splitting headache!

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is it still allowed when you are in denial of it though?

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Yes but if an editorial leaves space for comment, aren't we entitled to our own opinion as well? Provided that it's done properly and isn't just rabid fanboy rantings, then aren't they entitled to their opinion as well?

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@CH1NOOK,

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion; but the problem lies when you become belligerent and attack the other person's beliefs. Just state your opinion and move on. Defend it if you must, but you can do that without hurling insults or attacking the other person. By doing either of those things, you are only showing your immaturity and lack of intelligence. Bottomline, you need to respect other people's opinions.

BTW, curiously, your first posts appeared yesterday. You wouldn't be any of the recently deleted users, would you? I'm not sure because you seem to be reasonable right now.

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I hope not, that was the problem with the XBOX 1 it was known for Army/FPS/War games, while the PS2 had a great mix of all genre's.

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possibly the best console for fps but def not the best over all a decent pc can destroy the fps on ps3 and xbox360 with ease for both graphics and replayability

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The ultimate? Maybe, could be. LOL but I do think (know) it will become the best console for variety (like the PS2 days). I just think the Xbox 360 needs to be good at something to balance things out, and that thing can still be FPS (regular PC players will still love the PC for FPS games and precision, and it probably is a lot better).
Just because I've heard more people find that Xbox 360 controllers feel better for them - in the higher age groups. And the fact that I just immediately relate Xbox 360 + Microsoft to PC.

Are damn it, I forgot the main message I was trying to say in this comment :(
LOL now I don't even understand myself but I know it 'made' sense xD

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won't be long b4 the ps3 has the best games in every genre!

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Dude, u keep going on and on like a bad record. Obviously if the next splinter cell gives us a beter 'overall experience' than MGS4, in future wouldn't someone say that Splinter cell is better than MGS4? Do you honestly believe that we are gonna be hugging onto MGS4 for the rest of our life? its always good to reminisce but as new games come out we should embrace the future too.

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The deciding factor in me buyin PS3 was I played Halo3 and Cod4. I loved Cod4 opposed to Halo and I was expectin more outta Halo. Cod was a rush so I went with a PS3 cuz It was on both consoles. Love the fact that we're gettin so many FPS's

I dont see what it is that people talk about the Xbox controller for FPS but SOMETHING changed with the PS controller. I think it has a Natural feel to it and actually prefer it...

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Last edited by Wage SLAVES on 11/7/2008 4:06:30 AM

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i own both consoles and theres nothing really between them in games if i had to choose i would say the xbox has slightly better anti-aliasing than ps3.. yet everyone keeps harping on about the potential of the ps3 which we have yet to see..or a great piece of marketing hype

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I dont care whether PS3 becomes ultimate FPS machine or not, I want PS3 to become ultimate RPG machine, period.

P.S. The only shooter I played is MGS series, I played every single of them, and every single of them is different than all of the other shooters in the world. Also, I play MGS not because I want to shoot, but because I love the game story, the deep dialogue, the emotion, the patriotism, heroism, the big heart and sacrifice and the music. Thats the reason, not the shooting. All the other shooters are similar one way or the other. (OR put it this way, MGS uses shooting as MEANS to progress a deep and emotional story or even to reveal the dirty politics and government, whereas shooting is the END itself for all other shooters).

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Last edited by BigBoss4ever on 11/7/2008 5:15:07 AM

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I had a feeling this comment section was going to turn into a flame war after reading Mr. Dutka's writeup simply because there are so many Halo fans that would chime in, yikes. The fact of the matter is that the PS3 has gained ground on the 360 in terms of fps games especially that they now have a great fps franchise to call their own(Resistance). I'm not saying that it's better than Halo...but it's definitely getting the recognition as a great fps. Just to put things in perspective...Halo3 has sold 8.3 million copies worldwide while CallofDuty4 has about 6.5 million worldwide(only 360 sales). They've flip flopped between the #1 and #2 spots on the most played online Live game. Both are great games but very different fps. To me, one thing that no other console fps can touch Halo3 with is its great use of vehicles specifically on the larger maps. fun fun fun!

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You know I used to love reading comments. I'm done with it. You people amaze me. We didn't use to have nearly this many retards on here. Don't both replying I won't be reading any more comments on this website.

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Funny how this works right? I mean... This many flamers and fight starters means that PSX Extreme is becoming a site that people take notice to... That is awesome news, and I believe no one deserves this acclaim better, but I already miss the older days where I would only see a few well thought out comments on an article...

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Last edited by Fatcat3788 on 11/7/2008 6:57:59 AM

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dont worry Advent Child, gow will be out soon n the xbots will be gone,but until then we might have to bear with the insecure individuals .

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karnelli... your comments are the best.

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Don't forget about last year's true multiplayer gem - the Timesplitters series. I had more fun playing that than Halo. It was the perfect sit-around-the-couch-with-buddies game, with 4-player splitscreen, bots, and full customization. You could play co-op or competitive and use bots to make games fun, even with people of widely varying skill levels. Why haven't ANY PS3 shooters capitalized on this? I'd buy up such games in an instant, so long as they were better than Haze. Where is TimeSplitters 4?

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Killzone 2 owns. From the looks of it anyway.

I like the fact that your putting humor into your articles Ben. 'But that probably won't arrive until 2037' LOL

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I have to agree with Advent child, I use to love reading comments and articles on this site because of the information on game/reviews/previews ext... But now it's becomg all about flamers and put downs and a bunch of children basically crying over a article that was well written.
Ben,I thought the article was well written and very informative. Keep up the good work.

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Well, this conversation has really gone down the drain.

Anywayz, let's leave it at this. ALL reviews are OPINION. No matter what site or mag you go to, a review is someone's OPINION of a game. Therefore it is not a subject of FACT. Otherwise, games would get the same score's across the board. So, in the end, arguing about what game is better than what other game is like arguing about whether apple pie is better than lemon meringue pie (and we all know it's a FACT that lemon meringue is the best!).

Anywayz, I've played R2. I've played Gears 2. I've played Halo 3. My opinion? R2 is fantastic (and I wasn't even that impressed with the first one). Halo 3 was tired (this was echoed by my xbox friends). Gears 2 is good, lots of fun, but not earth-shaking as expected (also echoed by my xbox friends).

Anyways, those are my opinions. And that's a FACT! :)

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SABIT what is your problem? You come up with the stupidest lameass comments back to Ben who is completely honest and good at his job- he knows what he is on about.

And Rocketman chill out a bit!

I need R2 right now, sounds massive

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you guys should come over to the main forum.

These people who indeed like to flame and call out people for a fight wouldnt last five mins on the main forum.
So if you want a good quality discussion then come over.

PSXE doesnt want to lose you guys, especially the ones who have something worth while to be said. so like I say, pop over to the main forum... :)

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Guys, when I can say after writing something: "gee, I'll be SABIT and Rocketman will ruin the Comments with their Xbot trolling," and then it actually happens...?

Yeah, they're gone and they're not coming back. They can try, of course, but they'll just get deleted again. Oh, and SgtBarone is gone, too, having reviewed his Comment history. Not sure how his pure idiocy slipped by. Anyway, order restored; moving on. :)

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Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 11/7/2008 10:26:06 AM

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Thanks!!!

And I've been calling Sgt. Barone out for being a fanboy for weeks now! ;)

BTW, this "Deleted User" is another real tool!

;)

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lol...yeah Deleted user is ticking me off too....

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But at what point does the FPS market get over saturated? Used to be that FPS's were a PC thing. And sure on the old consoles there were a few decent FPS at the time (Golden eye?) But wouldn't the huge wave of people wanting to play FPS's now be partly thanks to the Popularity of the first Halo? Didn't we see a huge push of that Genre after that? I had a PS2 and mostly played RPG's and racing games on them until I met an Xbox and it's owner (My Girlfriend). I played Halo, and had fun. After that I got in to the Medal Of Honour Series on PS2 and so on. Now most of my games are 1st and 3rd person action games with a few racing, and as of yet, No Good RPG's(haven't tried Fallout yet, too busy with R2) to speak of(wouldn't mind a nice RTS too). And now your saying that that the PS3 is the place to be for a FPS. Okay good, but does that mean we're going to see the same idea of a game rehashed over and over in different story lines until the genre is dead? And what about the growing popularity of 3rd person duck and cover games. I don't own a 360 and haven't played Gears(or Halo3), but I really enjoyed the Gameplay in Army of Two,(although it was too short of a game),GTAIV, Warhawk and I'm loving the SOCOM Experience. But I'm also loving Resistance, but RFOM and R2 are the only first person shooters that I actually bothered buying because most(notice I said most and not all you COD4 and Battlefield fans) of them are only renters unless they have great online play and replay-ability. Just remember that there can be too much of a good thing.


And you're saying the Halo story line sucked? I didn't play the third (again no 360) so I don't know how it ended, but really? Isn't comparing the resistance story line to the Halo storyline kind of like saying that Michael Crichton (RIP) is a better Author than Robert Ludlum (again RIP)

Compare the two stories for a second.

Halo: An alien race(covenant) trying to take over the universe. The Flood who infect dead bodies and will kill anything in their way. The Human race fighting for survival. The lead character is an extraordinary military creation.

Resistance: Human Race fighting for survival battling against another (originally alien?)Race who infect their bodies and turn them into something that will kill anything in their way in order to take over the universe. The lead character is an extra...oh forget it..

Wow look at the difference!

So sure PS3 may be come the winner in FPS this time around, but unless something new and exciting comes along that progresses the genre, it's going to become old and stale and people will look elsewhere. I remember when everyone got all excited about dual wielding weapons in Halo 2. But since the FPS market started taking off, what great mind boggling innovations have come along that are really that much different from the days of DOOM on PC? You can Run, Jump, Shoot and throw grenades. What's next?

Congratulations if you have the attention span to read all of this....and if you don't know who Michael Crichton or Robert Ludlum are, go read a book.

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Last edited by CH1N00K on 11/7/2008 10:49:45 AM

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You certainly make a good point. But I remember arguing over the stagnation of the FPS genre years ago, and obviously, I was wrong. It seems that most of the innovations are more technical and thus, less visible.

On the other hand, you're certainly right about the possibility of over-saturation. I love the FPSs and everything, but without a good amount of diversity, EVERYTHING stagnates. The entire industry suffers. Thankfully, though, I don't think that has happened yet, as many of the best games of 2008 (GTAIV, MGS4, LBP, Gears 2, etc.) aren't FPSs. That's actually better than in recent years.

As for the story, I just found R2's to be more compelling because I actually felt something for the main character. You're battling time - he only has 19 hours to live in the game - and apparently, the inevitable. Master Chief was just a dude in a suit with a gun...hardly personable, and in all honesty, the story in Halo 2 was much better than the one in Halo 3. It's more of an opinion, though.

As for the authors, of course I've heard of them, but I think it's far more depressing that people don't have the attention span to handle the classics. :)

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Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 11/7/2008 10:57:29 AM

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Lol..Your last comment slipped by me..damn this short attention span....I know you said you had a degree In Psychology(I think, actually have a great attention span...short memory) But when you are talking classics in books, how classic are you talking? Are we talking Dante's inferno? or even the Illiad? or just dickens and Shakespeare? Or something else? I know there's lots more...I'm just giving common examples for the masses...lol

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Last edited by CH1N00K on 11/7/2008 2:22:59 PM

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I hope I'm not crossing any lines with that last post Ben. I'm think I'm keeping it civil but let me know if I'm getting close to ticking people off. I enjoy coming on here and reading the articles and posting to the comments. I like to think I'm writing with a little more class and civility than others who have been banned, but let me know if I'm pushing it. :D

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lol, never mind, I think you answered my question

and dammit you do have a way of making people see things your way. Master chief was just a dude in a suit,("for a brick he flies pretty good") although it's funny, I was actually a little dissapointed the First time I heard Nathan Hale speak in R2. I kind of liked the idea of just a straight killing machine that didn't say much. Let the narrator tell the story. but as the game progressed I got used to it. I guess we'll have to wait for R3 before we know which is truly the better story line. Although I'm sure people then will be dissapointed on how it ends, but all good things have to end sometime.

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Last edited by CH1N00K on 11/7/2008 11:06:27 AM

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Yeah, don't worry about it. I'll never stop differing opinions and discussion, provided things are civil. But rampant flaming and insults for the sake of trolling will disappear immediately...as it did here. ;)

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"Than you".

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Hey Ben,
Thanks for the deleting the users that were causing the problems, now hopfully we can all get back to talking about important stuff and not flaming all the time. Oh and R2 i haven't played the game yet but is it true if you want to unlock 100% of the game does it take 400 hours i read that somewhere the other day, if so man i better be getting the strategy guide.
Thanks again.

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I just want to say thank you for deleting those users. I mean if they are such big haters of the Playstation brand then why do they come to this site? I sure can't answer that. But I love reading articles like this and also your editorials. You guys bring great news and have very informative opinions, which by the ending of reading the editorials is near impossible to debate because they are so convincing. One of my favorite things about this site is when you do the Sunday update and let us know how the games you are playing are going. The same applies with your reviews because that is what hooked me with this site. Ben and Arnold's opinions and comments about games are the same exact things I notice about games. I would say that this is most likely because I read the reviews and keep it in mind when playing but sometimes I play the games before the reviews and we usually share opinions and notice the same aspects as oppossed to other ones. That is mainly why I consider this site to be the most reliable, but those guys were bringing down the comment section and it's good to see them gone, because the people here that comment act mature and have fair opinions, unlike a lot of other sites.

As for this article, I think that Playstation will hold the best FPSs this generation, but after Killzone 2 is released, I think it will shift towards the Home of RPGs and new interesting IPs. That one game Eye Pet is a great example. I think it will be great if they find ways to keep it from getting stale, and if they price the game right, (I'd say $20 would be a steal) this game may be a big seller. I think anyone who likes animals would love this game and I've only seen like a 2 minute demo of the game and heard nothing more about it. Maybe some new consumers in the gaming market that picked up a Wii will be appealed by this game. That is one thing that I love about Sony/Playstation branch, which is that it seems like they are very open-minded and are willing to take the risk with new IPs. In my opinion, the Sony first-party devs are the most innovative dev.s out there. I'm sure they are most likely the biggest Corp. in terms of amount of dev. teams but that doesn't negate the fact that they bring the best games, IMO. I have 12 PS1 games, 11 PS2 games, and 14 PS3 games and about half of them are Published by Sony. And 4 of the other games are MGS/Konami games. I've owned many others but usually trade them in when I've lost interest in them or think that I'll never play them again. I think that says a lot for Sony and gives me faith in the future of Playstation games to come.

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God I hope not!!!

I hope the ps3 keeps the bes FPSs like Resistance and Killzone but that's it.

At heart I hate FPSs, this is the genre that really f*cks up gaming.

I want more innovation in games
I'm fine with there being a GOOD amount of FPSs

But when every game becomes an FPS *cough* PC gaming *cough* it doesn't get any more depressing and uncreative than that.

At least in third-person view games you have more freedom of gameplay and ideas.

In FPSs you're limited to the core gameplay of the camera.

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True, and in Third Person you can be hindered by the multiple camera angles..lol Each has it's pros and cons.

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But that's rare
Does happen, but can you point out a recent 3rd-person game with bad camera other than Devil May Cry?

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CH1NOOK: The classic classics are what I'm referring to. Yes, like Dante. But it ranges greatly; Milton, Marquez, Conrad, Collins, Eliot, Dickens, Chaucer, Melville, Forster, Joyce, Emerson, Thoreau, Austen, Ovid, Kafka, Cervantes, and playwrights like O'Neill, Williams, and Ibsen.

I love to read them all. I'm currently working through George Eliot's "Middlemarch." ...Eliot, of course, being a woman, Marry Anne Evans. ;)

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Wow when you say classics, you don't joke around, lol. I may have to talk books with you sometime. I don't read as much as I used to, but I grew up in a house that didn't have a TV until I was in my teens, but we had a huge library. I have a lot of people not believe me when I said I got through Tolkien when I was in Grade 4. I think that explains why a lot of my posts are so long winded. :D I've read a few of the authors stuff on your list of classics, but by the looks of things I'm going to have to expand my horizon a bit more again..

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All great authors that I can't read anymore! I spent too many years reading all those authors and more in prep school and college as a lit major with a writing specialization! LOL

I was a huge reader when I was younger, voraciously reading anything I could get my hands on... that is until I started working in publishing and started reading/editing for 40-plus hours a week! After a few years in the business, reading anything longer than a magazine article became tiresome and less than enjoyable, regrettably so.

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Ben I dont understand how could you delete those guys and not delete Wasim? That sounds a little biased of a thing to do to me. Wasim didn't even get a warning. You gotta learn to do things the right way man. That way you won't be looked at as the joke of the editorial gaming industry.

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Wasim wasn't flaming the board. And those guys were not banned for being fanboys. But why so bitter? Perhaps you were one of those who got banned. You sound an awful lot like Rocketman?

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Mmmmmmm... His first two posts were today too!

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Aftab how could you say he wasn't flaming? you obviously cant read.

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Yes. For the time being that's for sure. R2 and K2? Hells yes!

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@Ben - I think you were too hard on Rocketman, I too thought the same thing when I read that line about Halo 3. It read better in the title where you say something like "in our opinion" instead of "the fact of the matter is".

You're great at what you do, but again, I think you were too harsh.

I don't think I've read every one of his comments, but in the ones I read, it just felt like he was being reasonable. Before things blew up that is.

And let me put this out there. I don't care about Hale. I didn't care about him in RFOM and I don't care about him in the first hour of R2.

So I have no idea how he compares to Master Chief, cause I've never played a Halo game.

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Those guys were excused because of flaming, not opinions. Moreover, they were condescendingly telling him how he's doing his job, using ad hominem attacks, hardly the stuff that makes pleasant or intellegent discussion... Perhaps you wish to continue that?

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I seriously cant wait to play Res2..come on the end of november!! As for the ultimate FPS.Id have to agree.The titles do see to be there this generation.

On a side note..is it true you cant turn off the vibration on xbox controllers?

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I didn't see any curse words or anything said against your mother (for one). Perhaps you could at least open up your mind and find out that your opinion is not necessarily the opinion of everyone?

From the "About Us" page:
"Furthermore, contrary to popular belief, we are NOT a fansite interested in only promoting Sony's platforms. We maintain the highest journalistic integrity and strive to be one of the best news sites available for all PS3, PS2 and PSP owners."

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When you say something like "the fact of the matter is that Resistance 2 is better", you WILL get differing opinions. The author should have expected that. If people present something different, nobody should accuse them of "flame-baiting", because THE ARTICLE ITSELF IS THE FLAME BAIT.

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Aftab is correct, they were banned for repeated flaming and insults. It has nothing to do with anything else. Axelblaze, a likely returned banned member, is once again toast.

Raster, in no way is the article "flame-baiting;" the only flame-baiter here is you. You signed up to cause problems...don't think I can't spot people like that a mile away. So do what you will, but I've got no qualms of getting rid of people who will just cause trouble for the great community that we've worked so hard to maintain here. Try me.

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Raster, what you said about "flaim-baiting" would be true if this was a 360, or multiplatform site. But it's not. The articles written here are for the ps3 owner audience, as per the disclaimer you quoted. Now as the 360's library is ebbing, some folks have broke down to get a ps3 or toying with the idea, and out of curiosity have come to this site. If you somehow feel that your most sacred feelings were injured by the Halo comment, coming back here and flaming Ben, by disingenuously commenting about his integrity as a person, or his journalism as a professional, is unwarranted, hypocritical, and a futile attempt to demand an apology, or rectification. Don't you have anything better to do? Go play Halo3, or Gears2.

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Raster: Newcomers who blatantly insult the people who work hard for the site and who insult everyone else in their first few posts? Yeah. We'll be fine without you.

And oddly enough, we have no trouble getting comments. Good, constructive comments. The trolls like yourself? They disappear because I make them disappear...thus, good members want to respond more because they know it won't degenerate into crap started by people like you. Go to IGN or something. You're out.

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P.S. Aftab, I erased all his posts and yours in that argument, but that's just because I don't think it's constructive. I can't very well get rid of him and just leave your posts; I'm sure you understand. :)

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Ofcourse, Ben. I wouldn't want that "litter" scattered on this site, either. Best regards.

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Interestingly I always felt that Halo's dominance of the 360 scene was a bit of a problem for M$ and with Gears not being FPS this left Halo3 as a must-push/must sell for them. As a result the lack of competition left us with a stodgy third installment of the single player game (acting as a mere tutorial for the superior multi-player game) knowing it had little in terms of exclusives to compete with.

R2 , for me, has been a very big step forward from the first game-and a bigger one than GeOW2 has taken too and having played a few builds of KZ2 now I have no fear that Insomniac will be left alone as lead FPS dev in the way Bungie were for 360. The ideal situation is to have at least a couple of exclusives battling it out in the same genre as it tends to make multi plat developed games use your console as the "lead" in development. So while the days of PS3 kowtowing to M$ over the FPS throne may be gone the very best may still be to come. Also, though I like using Keyboard and Mouse for PC shooters now and then I also feel that everyone having to use the same controls on consoles online makes them a better test of skill rather than set up. I even played Crysis through using a pad because of this feeling that in the online world I might always come up against a guy that has an edge merely because he can afford better tech than me.

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Sorry for the length of this, but Tom Chick over at tech site fidgit dot com did a GeoW2 V. R2 comparison that is a fairly interesting read. I thought you guys might like it:

RELATED SECTIONS : Playstation 3 / Shooters / Xbox 360
Shooter vs. shooter: the battle between Gears of War 2 and Resistance 2

By Tom Chick

Gears of War 2, featuring Marcus Fenix (above left), and Resistance 2, featuring Nathan Hale (above right), were both released this week. Now they're sitting on the retail shelves casting their grim manly-man alien-killing gazes at each other. Each is an exclusive on its particular system and a darling of its publisher, Resistance 2 for Sony's Playstation 3 and Gears of War 2 for Microsoft's Xbox 360. They're both tough, established, grizzled, and heavily armed.

But who would win in a fight?

Find out which is the better game after the jump.


I should point out that I'm not a super-big fan of either game. They're both corridor crawls with embarrassingly bad stories, but solid multiplayer. If I was to rate them on a 1-10 scale, I'd maybe give them both 7s (which is an 8 on the usual 7-9 scale used by videogame reviewers). But what if we break down each game by category and compare them? Who would win the most categories? Which game is ultimately the higher 7 (or 8)?

Single player
They're both strictly linear rat-in-a-maze trips through dynamic battles against handfuls of enemies. Neither has much replay value, and I can't imagine anyone caring enough to collect the silly collectibles. Gears has the occasional fork in the road and it does a much better job with its set pieces, but Resistance gets the slight edge for massive wide-open firefights.
Winner: Resistance 2

Lead character
Marcus Fenix from Gears of War is so bad ass that he talks like he has throat cancer, which would explain the doo rag. He's so bad ass that he doesn't even need to spell "phoenix" correctly. He's so bad ass that no actor could possibly play him in a Gears of War movie, so Marcus Fenix will have to be entirely CG. Nathan Hale from Resistance is...you know, I can't remember a single thing about that guy except that he has the power to receive three or four telepathic messages from a floating octopus. I'm not even sure I got his name right. Wasn't Nathan Hale one of the Founding Fathers? Or is he the guy who wrote Last of the Mohicans?
Winner: Gears of War 2

Back story
Resistance 2 is aggressively incomprehensible. I was lost from beginning to end, and I'm pretty sure the big spoiler has something to do with a scientifically engineered floating octopus. Also, for some reason, the Cloverfield monster is running around in Chicago. But in the 1950s. Also, pods turn people into zombies. Also, soldiers have to take drugs or their eyes turn yellow and they die from advanced hepatitis or something. The back story in Gears 2 is nearly as incomprehensible, but it has a much better sense for world building, complete with silly names like razorhail, rustlung, grindlifts, and beastbarges. And since the beastbarge is one of the coolest bits of videogame design I've seen this year, the award for back story goes to Gears, since I'm sure the beastbarge figures in there somewhere.
Winner: Gears of War 2

Manliness
Gears is the most homoerotic game since 300, which wasn't technically a game so much as a cutscene without a game. Gears is full of men being suspiciously overmanly with each other. Consider Dom's stuff about his wife (beard!), the way soldiers call land carriers by female names and attribute to them aspects of female anatomy (compenstation!), and a revealing instance of dream confusion in which Dom imagines Marcus Fenix is his wife (paging Dr. Freud!). Gears is so manly that it can totally be gay. In Resistance, on the other hand, the dudes just remind each other to make sure they have full clips while the next level loads.
Winner: Gears of War 2

Monster design
If I had a nickel for every time I shot Dom full of lead, or imulsion, or plasma bolts, or torque arrows, or whatever I was firing at any given time, I'd be able to afford the collector's edition of Gears of War 2. At least the monsters in Resistance stand out from friendlies and are therefore easier to shoot. Plus, the artists who made Resistance get a lot of mileage out of how weird it is when a monster has six eyes. Aughhhh! That's just plain freaky. Also plus, the name of the monsters in Resistance is better: "chimera" is a much cooler name for an alien race than "locust", which is particularly stupid for aliens that only appear a handful at a time.
Winner: Resistance 2

The alien plan
In Gears of War, the aliens come up from underground. There are some new reveals in Gears 2 about their insidious plans to abduct people (boo!) and the mechanics of how they sink entire cities underground (cool!). But all that pales in comparison to the convoluted alien plan in Resistance. It seems to go a little something like this: arrive on earth via the Tunguska meteorite, spread a virus that converts people into monsters who further convert people into zombies, conquer Russia in the 1950s (suck it Stalin!), then go through Europe (Marshall Plan revoked!), then across the English Channel (suck it, Hitler!), then to America (suck it, Eisenhower!), then to Mexico (Mexico?) where there's some Halo-esque stuff about ancient towers or artifacts or bases or something that I wasn't quite clear on because I wasn't really paying attention when the floating octopus explained it. But what mostly cinches the deal is that the aliens in Resistance establish air supremacy. Have aliens learned nothing from military history.
Winner: Resistance 2

Basic gameplay
Resistance 2 is a lot of running backward and shooting. I hate running backwards and shooting, but I do a lot of it, even in otherwise excellent games like Fallout 3 and BioShock, where I must have done several marathons' worth of running backwards and shooting. Running backwards and shooting is the stupidest videogame contrivance since med kits, so the nod goes to Gears' stop-and-pop cover-based gameplay.
Winner: Gears of War 2

Weapons
The weapons in Gears are certainly distinct and they each have very definite roles. But they don't hit very hard. Combat in Gears feels like trying to take down a gorilla with a BB gun, and I can tell you from experience that's not a good idea (don't ask). The weapons in Resistance, on the other hand, draw from the developer's experience with Ratchet & Clank where lots of stuff gets killed in crazy ways. The Resistance guns are a mix of the conventional and the outrageous, with each weapon having some sort of wacky secondary effect.
Winner: Resistance 2

Most improved
Gears 2 adds poison gas grenades, a flame thrower, and human (well, inhuman) shields, but it's mostly a retread of the original Gears. Resistance 2 cuts out the med kits and health bar in favor of the now popular Call of Duty system. I cannot overstate how much this makes Resistance 2 an improvement over Resistance 1, which was a game mostly about trying to find another one of those damn glowing health canisters.
Winner: Resistance 2

Bossage
Both games have really big bosses that look cool at first. Then they kill you for the tenth time while you're trying to figure out the pattern to get past them. But if you're going to have a tedious boss battle, at least make it as spectacular as Gears manages to do. In fact, both games have a battle fought against a water monster while you're stranded on a little floating platform. It's a great study in contrasts for how Gears does bad boss fights better than Resistance.
Winner: Gears of War 2

Death
When you die in Resistance, it plays the same DUM-dum-dum tune and then a reload to the last checkpoint. It happens a lot. A lot. When you die in Gears, it plays a sad etude or some such thing with the piano. But instead of Resistance's die-and-retry gameplay, Gears gives you a second chance by letting your AI buddy resurrect you. Marcus and Dom 4 eva!
Winner: Gears of War 2

Multiplayer (competitive)
Both games increase the number of players supported. Gears goes up to 10, Resistance goes up to 60. The really big news for Gears is the addition of bots, which is pretty nifty. Although Gears has a number of modes, they're mostly variations on deathmatch and there's nothing approximating the grand map-wide free-ranging skirmish mode in Resistance. Also, Resistance has a persistent leveling system that goes along with a mix-and-match scheme where you choose a weapon and a special "berserk" ability. It's wonderfully addictive.
Winner: Resistance 2

Multiplayer (co-operative)
Only Gears lets you play the single-player campaign cooperatively, but that assumes that you actually like the single-player campaign enough to share it with someone. Gears' new horde mode lets players team up against waves of monsters, which is the new hotness (Call of Duty 5 and Left 4 Dead, anyone?). The bots also let players set up matches against AI opponents. These are all great features. But none of them is as great as Resistance's co-op campaign, which is like an MMO, complete with classes, character leveling, randomization, and even a lite loot system.
Winner: Resistance 2

The overall tally:
Gears of War 2: 6 points
Resistance 2: 7 points

The winner is Resistance 2! Congratulations! Now go to Disneyland.

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Interesting comparison...although I find it funny that the author could follow the Resistance story. I guess he didn't realize that R2 is a pure sequel to the 1st one. Meaning that if you didn't know what happening in the 1st game, a lot of elements in the 2nd will leave u w/ a "????" look on your face.

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Lol, thanks for the read. That was hilarious!

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@ ben can you turn off the vibration functions on the xbox controllers?

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Great comaparison!

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Wow ... I really missed something yesterday. Glad to see PSXE enforces the rules.

Regarding your article Ben, it's very interesting and I hadn't thought of it this way until now. I always viewed the ps3 as a gaming machine on the cutting edge. If that means a few more FPS than on the ps2 then so be it. I do hope however that it is not at the expense of RPGS.

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I have not yet been able to play R2 due to finances at the time but I'm looking forward to it and Killzone 2 as well. I really hope that PS3 does become the leading console for FPS and I hope it also continues leading all around in genres such as RPGs which I believe it will. PS3 is yet to have a notable RPG at the time but let's not forget about Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy Versus XIII which I believe will easily be the top exclusive RPGs. Also, PS3 has Little Big Planet which is an extremely diverse game enjoyable for all consumers. Now, with R2 and K2 it seems that it may be taking a big step up as for FPS games as well. My main point being that I believe that PS3 is seemingly getting a foot ahead of XBox 360 in FPS but that is no reason to believe or no reason why it may fall behind in other genres.

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halo 3 was just a haze in my opinion. too disapointing due to hype. r2 is great.

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Yeah, Halo3 isn't all it was made out to be-but what game could have been? It was sooo hyped I'm amazed it managed to survive at all. Lets face it it's still a great multiplayer online romp but the story(or lack of) leaves some of the action without much context so you might as well be shooting bots. That, however is to damn a good series with faint praise and just because it became an M$ emblem in the console wars this "Halo killer" obsession has carried on..and on.

I see few parallels with gaming FPS's now and when Halo3 arrived. Things have moved on and perhaps the lack of new IP's to challenge Halo on 360 is part of the reason behind sony's new confidence and why we still get fanboys extolling the virtues and failings of Halo3 daily.

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Wow! I missed ALL the action! I guess that's what I get for playing R2 all weekend. LOL!

Anyways in regards to the Ben's topic, w/ games like Resistance and the giant elephant in the room, KillZone2,...the PS3 is pwning in the FPS genre. Actually, going off the Killzone2 beta, that game will pwn every FPS out there. Seriously guys, Killzone 2 is on a "whole-nutha"
plane of FPS's.

And I have a feeling that 3rdPS's are about to get taking too. Think about what Uncharted2 would look like if Naughty Dog improves on their game like Insomniac did...SICKING! And what about that game Tecmo is working on, Quantum Theory.

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Oh yea and Ben...see me on R2. We should co-op sometime. Matter of fact, we ALL should play on R2! Make a clan and call it, "Sons of PSEx".

JayDa_T is my ID.

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Halo3 single player ( B ) I was a bit dissapointed.

Halo3 multiplayer Forge/coop/Vs. ( A+ ) Multiplayer still kicks mucho ass but u gotta mute those goddamn annoying kids though...if I here another high pitched squeaky voice...I swear to the higher power...I'm gonna strangle somebody!

Every multiplayer vs game NEEDS the theatre feature. If you don't know...u betta ask somebody.

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Sony didnt need a "Halo killer"
Halo killed itself! LMAO
Can I get a amen?!

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You're right bout Sony not needing a "Halo killer". They're gonna need a "GearsOfWar killer" this generation judging by the first day sales of Gears2. Don't jump the gun yet...let's wait for Killzone2 to make a judgement about "Halo killers". Killzone2 looks like it's gonna be bigger than an already superb game in Resistance2. Btw, I don't think a game that sold over 8 million copies and still selling is capable of being "killed". game/set/match Huzzah!

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Amen.

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