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MotorStorm Dev Rips Critics Who Hate On CGI "Target Videos"

Sometimes, developers and gamers are at odds when it comes to the issue of marketing and promotion. In the past, the pessimistic gamers - or perhaps the realistic gamers - would take a look at an early CGI video for a game and dismiss it immediately. "The game won't look anything like that," they'd say. Well, one developer is downright pissed about this phenomenon.

According to a recent 1Up interview, MotorStorm: Pacific Rift lead designer Nigel Kershaw had to vent a bit on this issue. After we determined that the unbelievable unveiling video for the original MotorStorm wasn't really indicative of the gameplay, some reviewers harped on this for a loooong time. But Kershaw defended this and other CGI "target videos" by saying it's a standard practice and gamers should better understand the position of the developer.

"We always do a render. Before you do a game, you do a test render that says, 'This is the game we want to make, now let's go make it.' It's just like writing a game design document. The end result might not look like the render that you did. Who gives a sh*t? If you're 50, 60, 70, 80% to that line, then you've succeeded. But also, it's not about the visuals. If you go back and look at that movie, it was about the interaction of the vehicles. It was about lots of vehicles racing together... all that stuff that we achieved."

By now, most all avid gamers realize that such promotional videos are just that: promotional. And because we know this, they're not necessarily misleading. The only thing we care about is whether or not the "target video" is proportionate to the end gameplay result; if the CGI is amazing, we expect a final product that really impresses us. But just don't focus on it. Kershaw finishes-

"But it's this thing that haunts you, that you didn't match your target render.... Everybody makes such a big f***ing deal of it. Who gives a sh*t? That's how we make games. If people have got a problem with that, tough."

See what happens when you complain enough? You tick people off. Heh.

Related Game(s): MotorStorm: Pacific Rift

11/10/2008 Ben Dutka

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Comments (24 posts)

Shatterday
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 1:07:48 PM
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I'm going to be honest, Nigel Kershaw is now one of my favorite people. I hope one day I can have a position where I can just cuss at the public and no one will say anything haha.

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RustEDalex
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 1:19:40 PM
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Is that the same thing people were saying about that God of War III trailer on how the game was going to look like that, but others said it wont

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snglbck26
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 1:24:06 PM

I think they said the trailer was actual gameplay. We'll see.

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keaton
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 8:36:09 PM

yeah i actually heard the game was going to look almost, or just as good as the trailer... and if it does that is gonna be insane. it might make it the best game graphically, but i also liked the storyline the trailer kinda hinted at. it grabbed my attention and ive never been a GOW fan but im gonna look into getting III

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aaronisbla
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 10:58:13 PM

as far as i know its just a rumor isn't it?


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Scarecrow
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 1:50:25 PM
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The game look great
Better than the original for sure.

It might not look EXACTLY like the FMV trailer, but it still has some really great graphics.

Heck I dare anyone find a BETTER looking off-road racing game.

Motorstorm's awesome, being judge solely on the graphics is really a sad thing.

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 2:38:25 PM
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Snglbck nailed it. The problem was that Sony called the video real-time, which led people to believe it was gameplay. THAT'S the problem.

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Qubex
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 8:33:33 PM

Yes, absolutely. As some of you know from my previous posts about the dreaded HYPE... it is what has caused me the most sadness about this whole next generation lark... NEXT GEN IS THE RENDERED VIDEO... this is what I thought the SONY machine could do... it was tauted to do it, and maybe it could have, or gotten very close to doing it...

The MAIN PROBLEM i see, is that the lack of video memory and the problems of getting 60fps at 1080p (generally) does not permit the highest of resolutions, with loads of post pro effects (simultaneously) and high resolution textures to be used all at the same time... call it lack of processing power, or RSX... maybe it is just not powerful enough... but yes the dreaded HYPE... we kind of got duped to put it mildly... PlayStation 4 maybe the machine that was promised but was never released, maybe this is what next generation gaming will be...

Q!

"i Am HoMe"

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Joe_III
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 3:14:34 PM
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I'm going to keep my rant on FMV trailers to myself for once. But:

"If people have got a problem with that, tough."

I would be highly surprised if this guy kept his job after this statement.

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Advent Child
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 4:50:17 PM

I really don't think he will.

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The_Vandelizer
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 3:35:14 PM
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The game is awesome i had it reserved and everything one of the best off road racing games

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snglbck26
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 3:39:03 PM

Agreed 100%. To everyone that whined about videos and gameplay just get the game and play it. It's fantastic. I've been playing now for a week and a half and still find myself staring at the scenery only to realize I'm about to crash. lol

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Craigo
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 3:48:27 PM
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Good on him! Killzone 2 have done well though on there render video to in-game. Love MotorStorm 2 though. If anyone wants to play online... PSN: craigo

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Zorigo
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 5:25:29 PM
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making a stand, yeah! come on. Pacific Rift is awesome

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LightShow
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 5:44:59 PM
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^_^ complainers are fun. They're always so surprised when, after dogging on what has been a guy's source of livelihood for the past ~2 years (that he likely has a large emotional connection to) he gets pissed off.

i agree with ben. heh.

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djjake
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 6:11:11 PM
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pisses me off when they say in game footage and then the game looks worse than the clip they show

if its just a trailer then fine i understand, its showing you what the games about

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tankerkevo
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 9:49:57 PM
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This guy is a whiny little biotch. In fact, I do have a problem with it; and while he's at the big bad ego bar, let him know I will have a second helping of tough if he would be kind enough to indulge, thank you.

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Tatsujin
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 10:38:24 PM

Actually, hes not whinning at all. All he is doing is telling the public to f**k off because they tried to set the bar as high as possible, and people are only giving feedback from the previous Motorstorm and chances are theyve never even tried Motorstrom Pacific Rift.

The way I see it, the public at large are the whinners, not a developer working his ass off to make a living (And does a hell of a job at it)

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FLYING_APE
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 10:53:45 PM
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Motorstorm is very influential game look at game like: pure
baja edge of control
fuel (upcoming codemasters game)
rage (fps/off road racer)

Motorstorm deserves credit but they should sort out the graphics there so friggin inconsistant.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, November 10, 2008 @ 11:25:13 PM
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It's not like this is new to this gen, even back in ps1 days the TV commercials focused on the FMV's because they were the best of it. Now there seems to be a major freak-out of people saying "Are those in-game graphics?" Clearly even an early render is just a benchmark. This guy clearly could have handled the situation with a bit more tact but I can see why he's frustrated. Hell even that movie Twister had a CG scene in the trailer that wasn't in the movie and people FLIPPED, what is that about? Some people are even starting to call for getting rid of CG clips in games like Final Fantasy, but I think they make for a nice shiny little moment in the game. It's not as if gameplay graphics aren't always forthcoming.

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King James
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 12:21:59 AM
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Prime Example of a game w/ a great CGI:

Lair

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daus26
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 2:06:16 AM
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Compare GT4's CGI to GT5P's real time engine. Its basically the same thing. Also MGS4 another game that doesnt use CGI the whole game and still looks freaking awesome. as well as GT does in its own respect.

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tanner1
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 6:47:18 AM
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This game is the nuts, best looking off road racer out there, & yes 360 fans it is better & does look better than PURE...Period

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GamerKid123
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 3:02:41 PM
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If anything the actual game will look BEtTER than the video on the pc because of the superior graphics on the console.

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