Treyarch And Infinity Ward "Compete And Collaborate" On CoD
Call of Duty: World at WarIn many cases, competition begets quality; one side looks down on the other and says, "there, top that."
Such seems to be the case for studios Infinity Ward and Treyarch, both of whom trade off development duties for the super popular and critically acclaimed Call of Duty franchise. According to Softpedia, IW and Treyarch aren't always on the best of terms. For instance, Robert Bowling, director of communications at IW, told Activision's Noah Heller to stop referencing CoD4 in all his interviews related to the new Call of Duty: World at War. In fact, in one of Bowling's blog posts, he called Heller a "senior super douche." ...wow, guess Bowling doesn't want the two CoDs compared, even though that comparison is inevitable.
But Heller wants to take things down a notch and explain how things work between the publisher (Activision) and the two development studios. He said- "The engine is an Activision platform, something that we can all use. From a design perspective we don't want to step on each other's creativity, and the Treyarch team has its own insular design force." Supposedly, Treyarch and IW "trade builds of their projects and comment on each other's work," and Activision likes this process because it continually pushes both sides to strive for greater things. And at the end of the day, Heller says they're all part of the Activision family, anyway. Well, guess this means IW will be watching those review scores for World at War, huh? The question is, will they begrudgingly admit that Treyarch made another fantastic CoD, or are they gonna gloat the Modern Warfare remains top dog?
Related Game(s): Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: World at War
11/11/2008 Ben Dutka
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godslim
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 1:53:27 PM
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N a S a H
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 3:42:03 PM
It is good, but it's slower. The COD4 engine was MADE to play fast paced. I thought it played slower and the characters felt.. heavier(if you get me) to move.
It's an AAA game but not as AAA as COD4 IMO
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timster118
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:12:10 AM
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tramp
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:18:54 AM
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King James
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:21:09 AM
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@timster
You mean Quantum of Solace, right?
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timster118
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 1:23:42 PM
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coverton341
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 2:23:19 PM
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Daedusian
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 9:17:13 PM
I kinda had enough of COD4 anyways. Games get repetitive for me pretty quick and so I have no interest once so ever in getting CoDWaW at any time. I may regain interest by the time 6 comes out but it will have to be BIG after K2 blows everyone's mind, and I have full confidence that it will!
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dillonthebunny
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:37:10 AM
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Im buying it this friday.
The initial reaction from what the boards are saying is that its better than CoD4, maybe these people are tired of CoD4 and CoD5 is new? I dont really know.
But go look at the masses, they seem to be lapping the game up right now in the states.. quite a few have the game and they all say that its brilliant.
Ive read three reviews all over 9, all saying how surprised they were that Treyarch could pull this off, all saying that its on a par if not better than CoD4.
I cant comment, I will Friday, I wanted to hate this game.. but the more I read the more I have to confess I really like.
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Deleted User
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:45:28 AM
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xtreme
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:48:15 AM
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Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 2:25:59 PM
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giant123
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 6:18:19 PM
did you play r2?
and as far as the game returning to ww2, hopefully it will be the last time... im gunna have to wait awhile after it releases to see what everyone is saying
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snglbck26
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 2:37:44 PM
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I know a lot of people are sick of WWII FPS games but this one sounds like it really is totally different and the next level of FPS games. This one should last me until Killzone comes out in February.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 2:50:14 PM
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LightShow
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 3:37:23 PM
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i really hope your not referring to COD3, when you say another, cause I don't think anyone would call that fantastic
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Enfildate
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 4:26:48 PM
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giant123
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 6:21:06 PM
keep changing the setting, you might find stuff that worked as well as cod4
like
future warfare
jungle warfare (like veitnam)
idk those both might be fun
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Orvisman
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 9:21:45 AM
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orangpelupa
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 4:54:44 PM
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its IW who created, developed this awesome CoD4 engine...
and Treyarch just use it for CoD5...
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Joe_III
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 9:50:31 PM
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IW is a much better studio, especially since they build the engine with the game. Treyarch usually just uses IW's engine and slaps some junk on top of it.
That said, WWII still has miles of gameage in it if devs actually looked. From what WaW is sounding like, it looks like treyarch is actually bringing some of the new stuff out, especially with the flamethrowers and all.
What people fail to realize is that WWII is the birth of modern warfare. People don't understand is that just about every aspect of modern war, weps, and tools are direct descendents of ideas, concepts, and methods tested, rejected, and improved during the WWII, and WWI to an extent.
WWII was much more than simply Hitler, and Japan. Games can easily expand on a number of areas -- the french resistance, the Japanese occupation of China, Hitler's fascination of the occult (in a serious manner), Mussolini (i think) and his role in the war, and on and on.
That said, it would be nice to see a good Vietnam game, but that's probably never going to happen, because noone looks at Vietnam as a good war. All anyone remembers about Vietnam is the protests, the hate of US soldiers by US citizens, and that stuff.
Plus I doubt a dev could honestly make a game on Vietnam and look at the aspects that made Vietnam such a messed up war. Fighting over a hill and then withdrawing because it was ceded during negotions to take it back all over again. The lack of morale fighting in a country that wanted to be communist. The fact that our own citizens considered us oppressors.
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AntDC
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 10:04:00 PM
I didn't realise anyone looked at wars being good fullstop. But I see your point. Why not do a war game based on the Spainish Civil War or French Revolution? I'm also sick of WWI/II. I was over the first WWs after I completed Medal of Honor 1 and Underground.
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LightShow
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 6:47:55 AM
hmm, those single fire rifles would be a ton of fun to play in a battle with! you could even have a little minigame to reload it!
nice idea in theory, but anything before the creation of thompson-style automatic weapons just isn't gonna be fun to play.
now if a bunch of equipment from the future landed in the french revolution through a wormhole!... wait, nevermind
oh and @ joe, regarding the french resistance part of WWII, I recall a game called saboteur...
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Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:45:56 PM
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Joe_III
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 2:18:42 AM
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FLYING_APE
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 2:19:01 AM
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Orvisman
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 9:28:08 AM
You've been playing games since the early '90s, so that makes you the de facto expert here, huh?
You are one arrogant douche!
You have people here who've been playing games since the late '70s or early '80s that MIGHT have a little more experience than you.
Besides, everyone is entitled to their opinion; so you should be a little more tolerant of other's opinions and not put them down.
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Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 3:55:40 AM
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dillonthebunny
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 6:32:28 AM
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what did we lose?
lol
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