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Treyarch And Infinity Ward "Compete And Collaborate" On CoD

In many cases, competition begets quality; one side looks down on the other and says, "there, top that."

Such seems to be the case for studios Infinity Ward and Treyarch, both of whom trade off development duties for the super popular and critically acclaimed Call of Duty franchise. According to Softpedia, IW and Treyarch aren't always on the best of terms. For instance, Robert Bowling, director of communications at IW, told Activision's Noah Heller to stop referencing CoD4 in all his interviews related to the new Call of Duty: World at War. In fact, in one of Bowling's blog posts, he called Heller a "senior super douche." ...wow, guess Bowling doesn't want the two CoDs compared, even though that comparison is inevitable.

But Heller wants to take things down a notch and explain how things work between the publisher (Activision) and the two development studios. He said- "The engine is an Activision platform, something that we can all use. From a design perspective we don't want to step on each other's creativity, and the Treyarch team has its own insular design force." Supposedly, Treyarch and IW "trade builds of their projects and comment on each other's work," and Activision likes this process because it continually pushes both sides to strive for greater things. And at the end of the day, Heller says they're all part of the Activision family, anyway. Well, guess this means IW will be watching those review scores for World at War, huh? The question is, will they begrudgingly admit that Treyarch made another fantastic CoD, or are they gonna gloat the Modern Warfare remains top dog?

Related Game(s): Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Call of Duty: World at War

11/11/2008 Ben Dutka

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Comments (32 posts)

N a S a H
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:04:23 AM
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Well all my friends who have played the beta say that COD4 is better but non the less, WaW is still an excellent game.

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Godslim
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 1:53:27 PM

nasah nasah nasah! cod waw owns after playing it i thought it was equaly as good!

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N a S a H
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 3:42:03 PM

Ah Slim, Did you turn on the 360 mate ;)

It is good, but it's slower. The COD4 engine was MADE to play fast paced. I thought it played slower and the characters felt.. heavier(if you get me) to move.

It's an AAA game but not as AAA as COD4 IMO

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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:12:10 AM
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I will play this game but I want to see those reviews ASAP. That will actually make up my mind wether to get COD:WaW or Casino Royale first....love those James Bond games.

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tramp
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:18:54 AM
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you obviously dont like them enough to get the name right,lol

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King James
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:21:09 AM
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Was I the only 1 hoping that the CoD games would stop making WW2 games after CoD4? To me, this games seems like a step back, not a step forward for the Call of Duty series.

@timster
You mean Quantum of Solace, right?

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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 1:23:42 PM

Yeah thats what I meant...sorry just watched Casino Royale Blu-ray movie last night before I go watch the new flick Quantum of Solace this weekend.

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coverton341
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 2:23:19 PM

You are definitely not the only one. For me, WWII is the main reason I will not be picking this game up. I am so sick of replaying that war. I wouldn't mind seeing a good Vietnam game but I am even a little reluctant on that. I want new fresh ideas of what is going on in todays world, it doesn't have to be factual just modern. Is that too much to ask for?

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Daedusian
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 9:17:13 PM

I'm with ya. Going back to WW2/1 is definitely a step back and I don't care what anyone says. I hate history, tbh, and the further we go back the more I yawn.

I kinda had enough of COD4 anyways. Games get repetitive for me pretty quick and so I have no interest once so ever in getting CoDWaW at any time. I may regain interest by the time 6 comes out but it will have to be BIG after K2 blows everyone's mind, and I have full confidence that it will!

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dillonthebunny
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:37:10 AM
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I wanted CoD to be modern combat forever and when Treyarch said they were doing CoD5 after Infinty Ward, I lost it and vowed never ever to buy it.

Im buying it this friday.

The initial reaction from what the boards are saying is that its better than CoD4, maybe these people are tired of CoD4 and CoD5 is new? I dont really know.
But go look at the masses, they seem to be lapping the game up right now in the states.. quite a few have the game and they all say that its brilliant.

Ive read three reviews all over 9, all saying how surprised they were that Treyarch could pull this off, all saying that its on a par if not better than CoD4.

I cant comment, I will Friday, I wanted to hate this game.. but the more I read the more I have to confess I really like.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:45:28 AM
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i just picked it up. the game is great, very good story and graphics are official at 1080p. cod6 is returning back to modern warfare...

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xtreme
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:48:15 AM
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Like King James i really thought it was step back with ww2, But after being in the BETA (Pc) I have to admit that they made a great game, on par with COD4 for sure. I do however think thats the weapons were very "lightweight" and unrealistic. maybe its me. Oh and the spawning is horiffic. I lost count the amount of times i got spawned into a group of 5 enemys. But its still a great game. I don't know how it is on PS3 because i'm still waiting for enough cash to bag one of them *sigh* still i can still raid my mates house to get a go on his PS3 lol

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Deleted User
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 2:25:59 PM
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just played through about 5 missions and two games of multiplayer. this game is crazy good. if u liked cod4 then u gonna love this bottom line. no steps back this is definately a huge leap forward for treyarch. best game to come out on ps3 since cod4 hands down. buy it.

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giant123
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 6:18:19 PM

whoa best game since cod4?

did you play r2?

and as far as the game returning to ww2, hopefully it will be the last time... im gunna have to wait awhile after it releases to see what everyone is saying

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snglbck26
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 2:37:44 PM
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I'm buying it this week. You can see the quality of the game if you've seen any of the gameplay videos. On top of that they've added 65 levels with 10 prestiges, you can call in the dogs after a three or five kill streak(forget which)....how innovative is that? Missions are playable with friends either split screen or on seperate PS3's and also earn XP while doing this to use on-line. Finish the single player campaign and you get to fight Nazi zombies and cards on the battlefield to be collected and used on-line.

I know a lot of people are sick of WWII FPS games but this one sounds like it really is totally different and the next level of FPS games. This one should last me until Killzone comes out in February.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 2:50:14 PM
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I would've preferred modern stuff too, or even going further back in time, WWII's been done to death. We've fought the Nazi's more than Indiana Jones. Still WaW looks amazing, can't really complain about a good game but my next Nazi outing will probably be the new Wolfenstein.

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LightShow
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 3:37:23 PM
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"...will they begrudgingly admit that Treyarch made another fantastic CoD?"

i really hope your not referring to COD3, when you say another, cause I don't think anyone would call that fantastic

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N a S a H
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 3:45:34 PM

lol, so true.

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Enfildate
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 4:26:48 PM
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does anyone think that IW should make a advanced warfare/ future call of duty???

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giant123
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 6:21:06 PM

i think that that would be a good idea!

keep changing the setting, you might find stuff that worked as well as cod4

like

future warfare
jungle warfare (like veitnam)
idk those both might be fun

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Orvisman
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 9:21:45 AM

Then you'll have another Halo, R2, or K2 and not "realistic" war.

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orangpelupa
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 4:54:44 PM
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its no surprise IW team got upset/annyed/irritated,

its IW who created, developed this awesome CoD4 engine...
and Treyarch just use it for CoD5...

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Joe_III
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 9:50:31 PM
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fark treyarch in the ear. CoD3 was so bad I'm really trying to avoid WaW even tho it has coop.

IW is a much better studio, especially since they build the engine with the game. Treyarch usually just uses IW's engine and slaps some junk on top of it.

That said, WWII still has miles of gameage in it if devs actually looked. From what WaW is sounding like, it looks like treyarch is actually bringing some of the new stuff out, especially with the flamethrowers and all.

What people fail to realize is that WWII is the birth of modern warfare. People don't understand is that just about every aspect of modern war, weps, and tools are direct descendents of ideas, concepts, and methods tested, rejected, and improved during the WWII, and WWI to an extent.

WWII was much more than simply Hitler, and Japan. Games can easily expand on a number of areas -- the french resistance, the Japanese occupation of China, Hitler's fascination of the occult (in a serious manner), Mussolini (i think) and his role in the war, and on and on.

That said, it would be nice to see a good Vietnam game, but that's probably never going to happen, because noone looks at Vietnam as a good war. All anyone remembers about Vietnam is the protests, the hate of US soldiers by US citizens, and that stuff.

Plus I doubt a dev could honestly make a game on Vietnam and look at the aspects that made Vietnam such a messed up war. Fighting over a hill and then withdrawing because it was ceded during negotions to take it back all over again. The lack of morale fighting in a country that wanted to be communist. The fact that our own citizens considered us oppressors.

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AntDC
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 10:04:00 PM

"because noone looks at Vietnam as a good war"
I didn't realise anyone looked at wars being good fullstop. But I see your point. Why not do a war game based on the Spainish Civil War or French Revolution? I'm also sick of WWI/II. I was over the first WWs after I completed Medal of Honor 1 and Underground.

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LightShow
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 6:47:55 AM

@ ant

hmm, those single fire rifles would be a ton of fun to play in a battle with! you could even have a little minigame to reload it!

nice idea in theory, but anything before the creation of thompson-style automatic weapons just isn't gonna be fun to play.

now if a bunch of equipment from the future landed in the french revolution through a wormhole!... wait, nevermind

oh and @ joe, regarding the french resistance part of WWII, I recall a game called saboteur...

Last edited by LightShow on 11/12/2008 6:50:11 AM

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Deleted User
Tuesday, November 11, 2008 @ 11:45:56 PM
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stop crying. and yea r2 is trash i returned it right after i beat it. whack multiplayer and holds absolutely no replay value in the campaign mode, simply a very bad game and you cannot compare that garbage to any of the cod games let alone even use it in the same sentence. bro i been playing video games since the early 90's and in my opinion up until ps3 and xbox the only playable games were sports games and fps were only good on a real computer. now that ps3 can sort of keep up graphicly i KNOW what u can call a good game and r2 is not one of them my dude, sorry. if ure spaced out like george lucas then maybe u like all that cosmic sci fi crap but aside from assassins creed gta4 the cod franchise and half life two these consoles still fail to produce substantial video games. i bought mine for nba fight night and madden everything else is still not that great.. cod5 on the other hand for some reason is awesome.

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Joe_III
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 2:18:42 AM

Spoken like a true frat boy. You might want to go back to beer pong amd leave the real conversations to people who know/care about these things.

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FLYING_APE
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 2:19:01 AM

metal gear solid 4:guns of the patriots

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Orvisman
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 9:28:08 AM

LOL.

You've been playing games since the early '90s, so that makes you the de facto expert here, huh?

You are one arrogant douche!

You have people here who've been playing games since the late '70s or early '80s that MIGHT have a little more experience than you.

Besides, everyone is entitled to their opinion; so you should be a little more tolerant of other's opinions and not put them down.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 3:55:40 AM
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id probably rock u in beerpong... anyway i just beat cod waw. great game w a surprise at the end.

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dillonthebunny
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 6:32:28 AM
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^ ^..?

what did we lose?


lol

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Deleted User
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 @ 11:19:18 AM
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although i gotta admit, cod 4 is way better thats why it was game of the year. this plays like a good mod, ilike how you can chop people up with a machine gun and limbs fly off.. driving a tank in the campaign was cool, as well as the battle in the pacific on a plane. wish it was a longer game :(

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