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Eidos Asks Critics To Hold Sub-8 Reviews Of Tomb Raider

Oh, Eidos, Eidos, Eidos... 'shakes head'

Most of you are probably familiar with last year's GameSpot/Gerstmann/Kane & Lynch fiasco, but if you were hiding under a rock during that time, let us sum up. GameSpot had big ol' full-page advertisements for Eidos' highly anticipated game, Kane & Lynch. Then, GameSpot veteran Jeff Gerstmann gave it a low score - too low to entice consumers to buy it - and the ads mysteriously disappeared...as did Gerstmann. The rumor was that he was told to change his review, refused, and was fired for it. That has never been confirmed, and Jeff himself won't speak clearly on the subject, either, but ever since, gamers have had it in for both GameSpot and Eidos. Well, check this out: according to the Videogaming247 blog, Eidos UK PR reps have confirmed that the publisher is asking all publications not to release any sub-8 reviews for Tomb Raider: Underworld until Monday. That's right; if you awarded the game less than an 8, they don't want that review up until the weekend is over. Thus far, the game hovers around 80% if you count early reviews, and we're guessing some critics aren't gonna wait.

But man, Eidos is just a sucker for punishment, aren't they? We know all about review embargoes - we get them all the time, and we always follow them, too - but conditional embargoes? Don't release the review soon unless it's good? Yeah, thanks for upholding our integrity, Eidos. Seriously.

Related Game(s): Tomb Raider: Underworld

11/21/2008 Ben Dutka

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Comments (49 posts)

coverton341
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 11:17:46 AM
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It's true that they fired him for his review and refusal to remove it. He lives next to where I once worked and he used to come in to the gamestop there and probably still does and he is actually pretty pissed about it.

By the way does this mean you guys have played it and it scored a 4 and you can't put it up because Eidos has your business rigged with C4?? Just curious :)

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MetalHead09
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 11:44:10 AM

lol

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LightShow
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 6:29:06 PM

its closer to if they piss eidos off outwardly like that, then eidos will stop sending review copies to PSXextreme.

so no c4, just business tactics.

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HUSO
Saturday, November 22, 2008 @ 4:43:54 AM

its a tomb raider game. it'll get an 8 even if its just based on lara's boob dimensions.

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tramp
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 11:22:54 AM
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i hate this crap,if you want people to buy your game make it well,and reviews are put out to help consumers so if anyone holds their review back they shouldnt be writing it in the first place.
EIDOS cop on to yourself and stop handing us this crap.

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Arvis
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 11:24:01 AM
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As far as I'm concerned, it means they don't think the game is really all that great. Funny how Konami or Epic never had to do that with their flagship games.

-Arvis

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Sir Shak
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 11:32:34 AM
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to hell with this game....wasnt gonna buy this anyway with so many other games to spend my money on.

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Buckeyestar
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 11:33:27 AM
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It's pretty ridiculous for them to ask to hold lower reviews, if it's even true. Remember, this was posted in one guy's blog, that doesn't make it a fact.

In any case, I do love this game. It's another in a string of titles that I get totally enthralled with. I'd give it an 8 to an 8.5 myself.

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The_Benny
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 11:46:46 AM
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It seems there might have a been a little miscommunication. VG24/7 later spoke to one of the PR company's directors who stated that the only embargo was a general one until the 19th, without other conditions, and that sub-8 scores had already gone out.

It does raise a question about how somebody from their firm managed to tell two separate journalists the same thing though.

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Vivi_Gamer
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 12:05:30 PM
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THE PUBLIC HAS A RIGHT TO KNOW!

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Wage SLAVES
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 7:40:48 PM

Yeah...Seems Like EVERYONE is acting like POLITICIANS.

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Qubex
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 12:07:35 PM
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Generally, poor quality goods show their true colours sooner or later, and don't bestow any honour upon the games company that makes 'em.

Q!

"i aM hOMe"

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MetalHead09
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 12:08:21 PM
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hey ben i know this is random and off the subject but dude we need some psxextreme tshirts. psxextreme t-shirts would totally rock.

Last edited by MetalHead09 on 11/21/2008 12:08:47 PM

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dillonthebunny
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 12:16:58 PM
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from what ive heard the games ok! so they have nothing to worry about...

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Joe_III
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 12:21:16 PM
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hmm...surprise! I wonder how many are actually going to hold off...
IGN (and all their sites) probably, because they can't really afford to piss off pubs.
Gamespot definitely. Everyone knows they knobgobble on Eidos.
Kotaku -- most likely, but that's probably because they're just slow to actually do reviews.

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djjake
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 12:22:07 PM
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ign has had theres on for a week
7.5

killzones is 4 decemeber apparently :S even though the games for feb release

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djjake
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 12:35:46 PM

well last time i looked it was 7.5
its now an 8.5

and i know that it was defiantly a 7.5 because i was disappointed

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Joe_III
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 1:56:59 PM

IGN changing reviews to keep advertisers happy? Shocker!

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Aftab
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 4:57:18 PM

7.4 was US score. 8.5 was UK score that came out, after....Still though, 1.1 is the biggest ratings difference I've ever seen between their regional departments, undoubtebly due to the Eido's request....

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Aftab
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 5:38:44 PM

I prefer their UK reviews, as well.

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bearbobby
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 5:39:42 PM

Aftab's right, the US team scored it a 7.5 and the UK team scored it at 8.5.

To be honest I found the UK review to be the more thought out and detailed of the two.

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Willcome2Urf
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 1:06:12 PM
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the game is not that bad...my wife loves it

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Willcome2Urf
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 1:06:50 PM
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it's in the running against spyro for game of the year

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Reccaman18
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 2:26:20 PM

Spyro, game of the year? I dont think so. Its got to contend with MGS4, Little Big Planet, Gears of War 2, and Resistance 2. No way will Spyro or Tomb Raider win GotY.

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Aftab
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 4:58:30 PM

I guess he was stating his wife's perspective of games she's enjoyed.

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Tim Speed24
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 1:17:07 PM
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DON'T MAKE SUB-PAR GAMES!!! and you won't have to worry about below 8.0 reviews. DUH!

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bearbobby
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 5:46:08 PM

Seconded! If you're worried about low scores affecting game sales, just make sure you make a good game. I mean how many decades have people been making video games? Yes the process is much more involved than in years past, but get the core (play mechanics, story, collision detection, etc.) of the game working before you branch off into lighting effects and explosions.

People are much more forgiving of a game that may not wow graphically but weaves a good yarn and has tight controls than a game that visually drips with polish but plays like crap and goes no where.

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Dustinwp
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 1:38:45 PM
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I had planned to purchase this game on launch, but I couldn't find any decent game play videos or review scores. I also heard some negative feed back from the 360 demo. I guess they should have let people post reviews or at least gave everyone the demo. I think the way Eidos handled this is going to cost them big.

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killzone100
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 2:11:01 PM
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their bascially admitting that their game sucks.

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 2:27:29 PM
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Wow. I'm inclined to buy the game, hate it, and post the review just to spite Eidos.

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Tim Speed24
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 2:50:45 PM

That's not nice....just give your honest opinion. I'm only expecting a mediocre game anyway, or else why would they want to hold negative reviews?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 3:52:34 PM

Arnold u are such a kidder

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Aftab
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 4:59:36 PM

I must say in all the years I've been visiting Psxextreme, I have not seen this side of Arnold. But, it ain't bad.

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tlpn99
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 6:53:45 PM

Go Arnold, be a hero, I dare ya, I double dare ya hehe :)

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dillonthebunny
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 2:30:48 PM
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I think they just dont know if they have a quality product any more.

i knew a games tester who worked for Eidos a few years ago.. they still talk about the testing of Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness, it sends shivers up spines just thinking about the testing of that game. ..the testers still to this day have nightmares of what they had to go through with it (lol).

so I cant really blame them for being cautious, but still get decent testers in, run a beta.. and if you dont have a quality product then soon you will have.

but to start dictating when people should release scores and reviews.. thats BS, they should be fined or something.

or give everyone one earth a free copy of Timesplitters 4 :)



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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 3:57:48 PM
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Here's what happened with K&L: The Eidos space alien overlords asked Gamespot to have Gerstmann change it, he wouldn't so they used their mind control devices to have him fired and then sacrificed for alien abduction experiments so that he could be reprogrammed and then replanted back on Earth. Subsequent experimentation found that intelligent earthling's views on games couldn't be changed and he was never seen again.

Seriously though, if the control scheme in K&L had been better it woulda been a decent title.

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 11/21/2008 3:58:18 PM

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Aftab
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 5:01:50 PM
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Whoa, dude.

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tanner1
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 5:24:35 PM
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Step aside tomb raider u built the foundation 4 naughty dogs masterpiece

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Daedusian
Saturday, November 22, 2008 @ 2:08:43 PM

I know right. Lara is getting old (even tho she's showing signs of maturity, in the chest region, every year lol). I think the problem with this series is that you can do too much. With Uncharted, there really aren't that many elements in the game except for few minor puzzles. But that's what makes it so great. The game flows flawlessly and maintains an interesting story. I think the TR games just try too hard to be successful, and in my opinion, it fails miserably.

And I laugh at Eidos for stating this. If they just make a decent game, they wouldn't have to be so worried about the outcome. LOL.

Last edited by Daedusian on 11/22/2008 2:11:17 PM

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Sir Shak
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 5:27:24 PM
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psu.com gave it a 6

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rjmacready
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 5:31:34 PM
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Anyone can just go on Metacritic.com and see all of the current reviews for the game. It's average is currently a 78.
Considering all of the good games that have come out recently, that score is not that great.

http://www.metacritic.com/games/ps3/

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LightShow
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 6:31:10 PM
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meh, let them. it's their problem if theyre gluttons for punishment...

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tlpn99
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 6:56:21 PM
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Ok so they are waiting for some people to not wait for the review and rush out and buy it ????
What happens is they get sales increase who cares if its good or not as long as were lining their pockets right ? What a load of ***t, Eidos lost a lot of my respect today, if not all of it.

Come on, if you want us as gamers to buy your product at least give us a decent game to get our teeth into.

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chicko1983
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 7:24:15 PM
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Where did this series go wrong?
When you think about the second game on PS1, nothing is different except the graphics have improved. Need to change the settings and story, or go sci-fi, or back in time, or introduce another playable character, or change the gameplay mechanics - just do something drastic ala Modern Warfare for the COD series.
Give up Eidos, Uncharted has superseded this outdated series.

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redman479
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 7:24:27 PM
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That's pathetic.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 8:25:08 PM
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Arnold: LMAO

I have no problem with that. ;)

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Scarecrow
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 10:03:03 PM
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Poor EIDOS...

Lara's getting tiresome, give us a new character.

A stronger story/objective and please change the annoying control scheme....

Oh well, thanks for letting us know PSXE. These companies have got to be truthful to us gamers.f

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, November 21, 2008 @ 10:34:59 PM
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Don't worry, guys. I've played the game plenty enough to know it's not 8+ material. Hell, I tried requesting a copy from Eidos and no one even replied.

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HUSO
Saturday, November 22, 2008 @ 4:45:47 AM

ah thts a relief to know its not gonna be an Uncharted 2 killer.

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