"PS3 Has No Games" Argument Needs To Die A Terrible Death

I think we're all aware of the enduring nature of stigmas and stereotypes - it's why we still have parents believing games are just for kids - and if we're not careful, certain stereotypes can run rampant and directly influence consumers who are seeking information. Since the launch of the PlayStation 3, the default argument against it, presented by almost everyone from retailers to idiotic fanboys, is this: "but it has no games!"

I was in a Best Buy today, with no intention of stopping near the game section (I was shopping for other people; 'tis the season and all that), and I overheard one of those "Geek Squad" register biscuits trying to help a customer decide between the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3. I paused and pretended to take an interest in the accessories display, as I'm always interested to hear just how ill-informed the retailers really are. At first, it sounded like he knew what he was talking about: Live is a slightly better online service but the Network is free, the 360 still suffers from a system failure but things are getting better, and if you opt for the Arcade version, you can nab a 360 for only $199. Yes, all true. Then I heard it- "but the one thing you have to remember is that the PS3 still doesn't have many games out." I wanted to rip open a Wii-mote and jam it into his eye socket. Can we get past the outdated ignorance, please?

At the start of the PS3's lifespan and well into 2007, there was no denying the system had a lack of software. It tends to happen; it has happened to just about every console in history, and that most certainly includes the Xbox 360. But for some reason, everyone has just forgotten about that and still assume the PS3 "has no games." Right. If you check either GameRankings or Metacritic (I don't care what source you use; the results will be very similar), you will notice that both the PS3 and 360 have almost the same number of titles rated over 80% in 2008, and the same holds true for the elite gems over 90%. Furthermore, with the exception of Gears of War III, the PS3 exclusive lineup in 2008 - featuring Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, LittleBigPlanet, Wipeout HD, and Resistance 2 - rocks the house, and third-party developers have basically worked past all their initial PS3 issues. The days of the pathetic 360-to-PS3 port are gone.

Yes, the 360 has been out for a full year longer, so of course it has "more" games. But as it currently stands, are we really going backwards and talking about games like Kameo? What we're talking about is the here and now, and besides a few exclusives here and there (Fable II and Left 4 Dead are worth mentioning), the PS3 has just about everything the 360 has, and then some. Here's a look at the year's best, and I doubt many will disagree with the list:

Grand Theft Auto IV
LittleBigPlanet
Bioshock
Gears of War 2
World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
Fallout 3
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Braid
Rock Band 2
God of War: Chains of Olympus
Dead Space
Left 4 Dead
Resistance 2
Burnout Paradise
Devil May Cry 4
Fable II
FIFA Soccer 09
Prince of Persia
Wipeout HD
Soul Calibur IV
Sins of a Solar Empire
Valkyria Chronicles
Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII
Guitar Hero: World Tour
Far Cry 2
MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
Call of Duty: World at War
Mirror's Edge
Pure

These are 30 of the year's best, and and of this list, 21 are available on the PS3 while 19 are available on the 360, and there are 6 that are exclusive to the PS3 while 4 are exclusive to the 360. Overall, the PS3 has 91 titles that have an average review score of 80% or higher at GameRankings, and the 360 has 139 at 80% or higher. Now, factor in that the 360 came out one full year earlier, and you end up with this statistic: the 360 has produced 139 80%+ games in just over 3 years time while the PS3 has produced 91 80%+ games in just over 2 years time. ...I'm not very good at math, but I believe the quality ratio is pretty damn similar.

Anyway, I'm just sick and tired of hearing this ridiculous argument from people who claim to know something about video games. There are pluses and minuses for every system out there, but in no way can the argument regarding lacking software for the PS3 be used. Not ever again. Hell, 2009 will add exclusives like Killzone 2 (wait for the explosion, 360 fanboys), Heavy Rain, God of War III (wait for that explosion, too), Uncharted 2: Among Thieves and possibly Gran Turismo 5...I'm sorry but what will either Microsoft or Nintendo produce to compete with that? The PS3 owned the exclusive battle in 2008, and it will do so again in 2009. That is the prediction.

12/9/2008 Ben Dutka

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ffrulez
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 10:53:22 PM
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My friend always used that argument over the years he has had a Wii. He finally decided to get a new console... But he chose 360. Why? "Because PS3 has no games". I've shown him MGS4, and LittleBIGPlanet. I'm sure he should've been convinced... But, really, when it all comes down to it, the 360 has a lot of things that are ripped off of PS3 and Wii.

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timster118
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 10:07:09 AM

Un-believable!

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King James
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:45:11 PM

Your friend just didn't want to admit it. U knew the PS3 had better games but still didn't want to buy one. He was prolly just too cheap to buy one and too lacking in character to admit it. I got 5 friends like that.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:29:12 PM

So, wait ... your friend had a Wii and he argued that the PS3 had no good games?

It's always been arguable that the 360 had a better line-up than the PS3 (though I wouldn't have agreed after the one-year mark), but the Wii has NEVER had a better collection of games than the PS3 (not saying it has no games, just that you can count the quality games on two hands).

Last edited by Fane1024 on 12/10/2008 3:31:57 PM

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ffrulez
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 3:00:03 AM

Yes, ignorant guy... He likes all the PS3 games I showed him though... not enough

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Schmitty
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 10:55:39 PM
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owned, nuff said

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kreate
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 11:05:35 PM
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its cuz xbox lovers are generally liars.
they tell me:

ps3 has no games
ps3 and psn sucks
"i had my xbox for 2 years without a single problem"
xbox has no more RROD
we don't need or want blu ray

.... so? they never tell me what about the ps3 that sucks. i have a xbox and it died. i still play xbox games on my roomate's xbox but we can tell it is dying.

if ps3 has no games, what does xbox have other than halo and gears?

if u take the first year of xbox and first year of ps3 games, they are equal.

basically there are too many ppl sucking on microsoft's big crappy cocks.

do u know how many gamestop employees are xbox fans? and do u know how many of them lies to the customers?

ppl use their xbox to take a sh** on more than actually playing them.

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King James
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:48:02 PM

My favorite is..."Man, Blu-Ray gonna die out in a year. Everything going direct download. Blu-ray movies are too expensive anyways. I don't wanna pay $30-$40 dollars for a movie."

But I just bought Dark Knight for $20.

:P

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NiteKrawler
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 6:55:39 PM

lol I just bought Dark Knight bluray for 16$.

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caliblue15
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 11:06:18 PM
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I work at Best Buy, because of this reason. I could not stand everyone pushing people towards 360's. Give the consumer the correct information and let them make the choice.

Last edited by caliblue15 on 12/9/2008 11:06:32 PM

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King James
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:49:21 PM

Spoken like a REAL salesperson.

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USMC_POLICE
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 12:38:20 AM

I also work at Best Buy and when a customer asks if the Xbox 360 is worth their money in my opinion i tell them no its not. Here is why, most consmers I deal with want the 360 pro at 299.99. They say they want it for the games and the online play and for high deffinition gaming. so i inform them of the truth when they ask what i recomend. I tell them if you want games you should also consider the Ps3 most of the games are on both systems yes, but for the $100 more the Ps3 you get so much more. For starters you get a blue ray player to watch HD movies. Also you get free online play that honestly its not that much different then xbox live also the Ps3 is wireless and bluetooth ready, If you want xbox live its about $60 per year if you want wireless internet play the adapter is $99.99 that alone costs as much as the Ps3 if you were to buy it with the xbox, also the graphics on games are starting to become of better quality then the 360 also sony has amazing 1st party titles and you cant argue with that. And the Ps3 doesnt have a Red ring of Death. I inform them that the Ps3 is alot more reliable then the 360, I lost count of the number of 360's reaturned while I was working due to defects but I can tell you only 2 Ps3's were reaturned keep in mind that this is only what I have seen scence october of this year. And before any Upset Xbox fan posts back to this I did own a 360 I did play on Xbox live I can say It was honestly aside from cross game invites the same Dam thing Lag and all sometimes worse. So I sold it and play my 350 GB ps3 everyday now.

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AceTatsujin
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 11:06:27 PM
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Enough said, owned.

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the_importer
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 11:07:40 PM
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There's no denying that the PS3 is in 3rd position, not even fanboys could argue with a straight face.

The PS3 is (contrary to it's older bothers) the underdog of this competition, but so was the GameCube, Dreamcast, Saturn and N64 at one point. Although these systems never won, they did bring some unique and exclusive titles that you couldn't play anywhere else.

I have yet to play such a title on the PS3 right now (I like colors in my games), but I'm sure that occasion will come soon enough.

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eLLeJuss
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 11:14:28 PM

lol. u havent played any good title in the ps3 yeT? u serious?

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aaronisbla
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:21:46 AM

have you actually tried to play any of their games? Also, which games have you played that lacked color? wtf does that even mean?

Also, to compare them to n64, gamecube, saturn and dreamcast is a large stretch. If you want i can tell you the major difference between them, but you probably wont listen

Last edited by aaronisbla on 12/10/2008 12:23:15 AM

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ffrulez
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:38:15 AM

Very nice of a PS3 hater to join a PS3 site. Very original.

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the_importer
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 5:59:02 AM

Wow, fanboy mania! No you lowlifes, I have a PS3 and a Wii, a NDS Lite, a Dreamcast and a media PC hooked on my LCD, so yes, I'm better than most of you.

To clarify what was already easy enough to understand, I basically said that the PS3 has the potential to be the console of this generation that everyone will own for a few particular titles that you won't be able to play anywhere else.

As for games with lacks of color, that's my personal choice. I don't like games that try too hard to to reach realism and that kind of preference limits my choices right now.

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robinhood2010
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 7:36:12 AM

i dont think anything in his original or reply post is slating the ps3. he is stating fact. the ps3 is behind the wii and x360. it IS catching up, yes.

and his opinion on colours is his own choice. dont start name calling on opinion.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 10:22:56 AM

vatossan's hostile comment is gone (sorry for that) and while the importer's comment makes zero sense to me, it's not necessarily hostile or fanboyish. So no attacks, please.

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Crono
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 11:53:59 AM

You can't play a game like LittleBigPlanet *anywhere else*, let alone on the Xbox 360 and Wii. Have you played it? You'd be happy to be proved wrong. Metal Gear Solid 4 does it for me too, it has no worthy equivalent as far as I'm concerned.

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the_importer
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:00:32 PM

@Ben Dutka PSXE

I'm surprised you're not seeing it. The PS3 is following the same pattern that the Saturn, N64, DC, GameCube. None of these consoles won their respected war, but they each had some killer games that you couldn't play anywhere else (Zelda OOT, Virtua Fighter 2, Soul Calibur, Metroid Prime, etc...).

The PS3 will get it's share of killer games that will make the purchase of a PS3 worth it. The PS3 is fortunate, it will see a sale growth for 3 reasons in the next couple of years:

1- It will get it's own exclusive apps (it has too)
2- The price for the 40GB model will drop to $299 (When M$ and SONY denies a price drop, there's usually a price drop)
3- HDTV penetration will boom in 2009 because of the DTV Switch and because of the price drop on most LCDs

2009 will be SONY's big break, I guaranty it. I don't believe that it will catch up to the Wii and 360, but with more consumers purchasing more than one console now and days, the system in the race.

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aaronisbla
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:39:46 PM

wow, you don't have to be so quick to throw out the fanboy card on us all just because we dont agree. Another thing i wish people would stop doing is stating that they own all systems, as if it makes their opinion 100% true and can't be disagreed with. Stop doing this

Which of these games has a lot less color that you are talking about? i'll give you resistance fall of man, but it truly sounds like you are grabbing at straws here.

the only thing the ps3 has in common with those other systems is being in "last" place.

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Arvis
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 1:09:59 PM

Just so everyone knows:

the_importer is a poorly disguised Wii fan, who I have seen commenting many times over at gonintendo.com. He is not to be taken seriously here at this website.

@ the_importer: Stop letting your bias blind you. I prefer my PS3, but that didn't stop me from loving Mario Kart or Fire Emblem. Why don't you try playing Uncharted, LBP, or Eternal Sonata and tell me how long it takes you to find more than three distinct colors.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:36:31 PM

"To clarify what was already easy enough to understand, I basically said that the PS3 has the potential to be the console of this generation that everyone will own for a few particular titles that you won't be able to play anywhere else."

And you're still wrong. That would be the Wii.

As Ben demonstrated, the PS3 has virtually any game you'd want to play. It is in no way in the position the Cube was in, even early in its lifetime when it was still getting cross-platform games.

Last edited by Fane1024 on 12/10/2008 3:38:16 PM

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SilverLion
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 7:06:48 AM

... I don't know what to say really. I have a Wii, three Media PCs, a PS3, three NDSs, as PS2, and a PSX (yeah I still use them), so does that mean I can piss farther? It certainly doesn't mean I'm better than anyone else.

Anyway, of the dozens of games out there, you'll find some color. Enchanted Arms was graphically beautiful, even if it was linear. Oblivion is dark as death, but that's the mood for it I guess. Fallout is another gritty one. Of course, I only play RPGs so, that's all I got for you.

As far as the last place thing... I have to agree with someone else that said that will be the Wii. Its a hyped up console that they use artifical economic controls to maintain demand for. I'm not a huge fan. its good for the kids, but as an adult, I find swinging a remote control in a poor attemp to simulate a sword slash irritating. Maybe I was jaded by the poor response in the Dragon Quest game, but I think the whole motion control gimmick is going to fade. Unless they improve the accuracy, reaction time, and range, this is going to fall by the way-side. The only way to keep it going it to introduce a new gimmick (wii-cart, wii-fit, etc) and keep up the deluge of games.

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Kubanski_Ratnik
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 11:18:40 PM
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F*ck consumers that go to retailers to ask which system is better! True gamers know what console they want, they know their stuff.

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kreate
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 11:21:35 PM
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tips for sony:

need a exclusive killer RPG that can rival square enix. white knight chronicles alone might not be enough. of course, sony didn't wasn't aware of the betrayal of square enix.

ps3 doing well in all genre of the games except for the RPG department. RPG is where asians would buy a ps3.

if u can get japanese to buy the ps3. than the japanese developers will make more games for the ps3. which will result in western expansion.
than the western world will buy the ps3.

but as of now, the japanese developers wants to go to the western world cuz japan's ps3 sales are ok but not that good.

although not a direct rival, the nintendo wii is a hinderance to the ps3 cuz consumers have more choices to choose from. the focus is turned away from the hardcore video games.

the decline of world economy has also hindered the ps3 sales. great technology but ppl just don't have the cash to shell out. u can argue about the xbox being just as expensive, but at least consumers can play a game for 200 bucks.

with so much negative issues, sony has to crack up the notch a bit more. the focus should be
"lets beat the xbox's install base numbers"

with a tough enemy at hands, sony needs to start throwing cash at some of these developers to dominate this industry once more.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 11:23:24 PM
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I still see this argument floating around too, that's exactly why the last time someone asked why I didn't get a 360 I kept a straight face and said "It's got no games" just to irk him.

So Ben mentions the exclusive lineup already primed: Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, and GoWIII, plus we got White Knight on the way. What's that other system got for '09? It's gonna have to beat those 4, I'm on the edge of my seat.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, December 09, 2008 @ 11:47:26 PM
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If you aint mad yet,ign has 2 articles on the ps3 ('who can save the ps3?' and 'blu ray +360 versus the ps3' ). Its like the ultimate conspiracy, oh n there's xplay who booed Sony for taking their movies off netflix streaming. In the end its Sony against American corporations,tough odds for Sony.

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kreate
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:11:52 AM

that is why i was saying that ps3's number 1 focus is to beat the xbox's install base. that way, these propaganda schemes of microsoft can be countered. it is probably the only counter-attack sony has.

how many gamestop do i walk in and see a wall full of xbox games while the ps3 section is in a hidden corner with 1/3 of the size of that of the 360. what's up with that?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:31:49 AM

I would have pulled my movies too, there's a war on PS3 and we are the Resistance!

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Qubex
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:00:39 AM
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Can it come back to the simple message that some of you already stated in PSXExtreme... Sony is simply not good enough at advertising how good the PS3 is and how much better it will be in the future...

Enough said...

Get the message out boys!

Q!

"i aM hOMe"

Last edited by Qubex on 12/10/2008 12:01:07 AM

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ffrulez
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:41:42 AM
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The first thing they should know about Blu-ray is that its ultimate capacity is 1TB.
In two years, the 400GB BD compatible with PS3 will make its debut, and smash the hell out of DVD. That's right, a disc with 47 times the capacity of a DVD.

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BigBoss4ever
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:54:10 AM
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PS3 has no games -- this is full BS. However, what I want to say is, PS3 has no convincing RPGs, or JRPGs to be more accurately. It is for this very reason that the above statement can still lingering around here and there.

For all of us as Sony and PS fans, the majority of us are RPG fans with Sony and PS throughout the generations, therefore, it is hard to swallow the fact that the FPS is replacing the RPG genre as the console defining genre. Its hard to let go the association of PS with great JRPGs, they came together as always, but not on PS3 yet, it is for that very reason, I am still complaining about the PS3 in that perspective. Anything else, I will be loyal to Sony and PS to the end.

P.S. If WKC, FF13, FFv13, Star Ocean 4, ICO3,Chrono Break (my imagination for this one), plus 10 more similar quality JRPGs hit the PS3 around the similar time, then the statement will be gone once for all. Such is my opinion.

Last edited by BigBoss4ever on 12/10/2008 1:00:48 AM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 1:07:25 AM

I think that's what most people don't understand, including myself, and what fuels the bribery accusations against M$, since Sony fans are THE base for RPG success, it makes no sense to be putting them on 360, especially not exclusively. Who bought a 360 for FFXIII and SO4? Nobody.

Whichever system gets the bulk of RPGs wins the war: Nes vs Master, Snes vs Genesis, Psx vs Saturn & N64, Ps2 vs Dreamcast & Gamecube. THAT'S why M$ wants em, but door-shoving tactics being what they are over there on the lunatic fringe, quality has not been taken into consideration. For that, we all suffer.

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 12/10/2008 1:09:23 AM

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BigBoss4ever
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 1:21:54 AM

well said, could not agree with u more.

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Joe_III
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 1:54:07 AM

@world
to be fair, one of the reasons I bought my PS3 was because FFXIII was exclusive at the time. And I didn't know SO4 was coming out.

I'm still getting all the RPGs I can on the PS3 because I hat multi-disc games...

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Wolf26pack
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:33:59 AM

The PS3 does have at least 1 JRPG called Eternal Sonata. Yes I know it was on the 360 1st for about a year before it came out on the PS3 but it is still now on the PS3 and there is one other RPG I can think of but it is more of a strategic RPG and is Exclusive to the PS3 & that is called Valkryie Chronicals by Sega.

Last edited by Wolf26pack on 12/10/2008 2:34:35 AM

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Highbird
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 11:44:25 AM

And Disgaea!!

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arctic
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:59:05 AM
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hell yeah!!! tell them ben!!

i'm familiar with this. a jackass from my town, a big big d..k sustains the ps3's blu-ray player is bullsh.t, the controler is bullsh.t, the games are bulsh.t, and now says even that killzone 2 has crapy video quality. what a sick f..k:))lol i will onestly break his head. wish me luck not to gave up after his first tears.

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crapreviews
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 1:25:02 AM
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Ben im shocked as that you didn't jump in and tell the BB person he was wrong. I know when i overhear someone putting down the ps3 for non-sense reasons i jump in and correct them.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:49:44 PM

Looks like aaronisbla either responded to the wrong post by accident or the other one got pulled.

Yep, the other one got pulled.

Last edited by Fane1024 on 12/10/2008 3:50:09 PM

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aaronisbla
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 1:43:29 AM

i will tell you before they ( ben, arnold, shadow ) will tell you, try to tone it down a bit, no need to get down to their level yeah?

Last edited by aaronisbla on 12/10/2008 1:43:52 AM

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Joe_III
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 1:54:27 AM
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I think Ben's trying to get me to get myself banned with these topics recently.

Here are the reasons that why those claims are still valid to a point. I REPEAT: to a point. Obviously the PS3 has games worth playing or I wouldn't be on this site to begin with.

A big number of multiplat games came to the PS3 needing patches. A number also came to the 360 first.

The other reason is that Microsoft advertises games -- both exclusive and multi-plat -- much more aggressively than Sony. They put a lot more buzz behind them, they put more stuff out there that's neat to look at for average people.

Honestly, I'm surprised the average person even knows the PS3 exists -- and lets face it, most the people working at electronics stores these days are as big a group of mouth breathers as the general public. I've seen ten times the ads for the PSP up here in the bay area than I have for the PS3.

With that out of the way, I completely reject your list Ben on two simple facts.

1. Bioshock came out last year.

2. WoW might have been a great game. WotLK is just an expansion pack. It only sold so much because WoW was so popular. If this qualified, then you might as well put Halo's Legendary Map Pack on the list or some other ridiculous add on. Maybe the Dead Space DLC?

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Advent Child
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:03:36 AM

I definitely can't agree with you on the second point. Expansions do count as games The map pack and DLC are not expansions. Are you saying that expansions of the past can't count as games? F.E.A.R. files, Diablo 3 expansion etc?

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aaronisbla
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:15:55 AM

Besides Fallout 3, could you name some of these "big number of multiplatform games" you mentioned here?

And sorry to burst your bubble, but WoW: WotL is on a much larger scale than halo map packs. Sorry, its just the truth, i don't even play WoW and would prefer halo over it, but even i can see that. Even if you had of mentioned recon, my point would still stand that WoW is much bigger than halo, period.

Like advent said, look at what expansion packs did to their respective communities ( and what Halo recon might do ) They keep the gamers hooked for a lot longer than they would have and add so much. Starcraft expansion was HUGE, so was Diablo 2 expansion (which is what advent meant to say)

As far as rejecting the list because of two games? wow way to miss the point of what was written...

Last edited by aaronisbla on 12/10/2008 2:26:02 AM

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Wolf26pack
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:34:54 AM

Yes Bioshock came out last year on the 360 but just came out this year for the PS3 so he would be talking about the PS3 version of Bioshock.

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Joe_III
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:37:18 AM

fear files? really? at least, back in the day, games like diablo and starcraft actually had something to their expansion packs.

@ everyoen else

I'll probably come back and defend my points in a few days. there's a wootoff for at least the next 22 hours that is going to require my full attention.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 10:20:30 AM

I still don't understand why you think you're going to get banned for speaking your mind with reasonable opinions. Haven't you learned yet that we DO appreciate that here, and the only people that get banned are hostile and/or fanboy freaks? ;)

I may not agree with a few of those points, but I wouldn't label them as violating posting policy; that's for sure.

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arctic
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:06:19 AM
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@aaronislba

we had enough! it is enough! it makes me bleed when i remember how many times i had to listen to theyre crap. for example, ben's little story. how do i suposed to feel when i'm taken by fool over and over again !

Last edited by arctic on 12/10/2008 2:10:48 AM

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AntDC
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:11:58 AM
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"Gears of War III, the PS3 exclusive lineup in 2008 - featuring Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots, LittleBigPlanet, Wipeout HD, and Resistance 2 - rocks the house"

Yeah your right, that Gears of War III sucked. Haha J/K Ben. You couldn't be more right, nothing pisses me off more then an ill-informed consumer who thinks they know everything. It's even worse coming from a retailer who should know better.

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ffrulez
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:29:25 AM
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Dear GOD! I had a heart attack when I read this article: http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Content/Detail.asp?ReleaseID=4734&NewsAreaID=2
Is it true that Home is releasing tomorrow?!?!?!? Official website, peoples!

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arctic
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:45:17 AM
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thank GOD few weeks ago, i was there to clarify this: '

costumer: I would like to buy this game, but for pc.

'video-gaming expert': let me check if we still have it in stock...motorstorm..motorstorm..:-?

i mean..wtf!!!

oh, if it was 360 exclusive..it will be like this:

oh, i'm really sorry, it is only on xbox 360..you know,,that mirific game console..wich you now have the wonderful posibility to get it for only 199$

Last edited by arctic on 12/10/2008 2:51:28 AM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 4:02:15 AM

No offense dude, but English may not be your strong suit.

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Aftab
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:25:25 PM

He got his point across. What was yours?

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Fane1024
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:53:14 PM

@ aftab

That he should take the time to edit his posts.

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Aftab
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 8:45:41 PM

@ you

Why? So that people like you won't make pretentious comments? Fair enough.

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Banky A
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 1:41:18 AM

I understood him perfectly, apart from 'mirific'

:P

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daizycutter
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:50:21 AM
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the ps3 is not really offering anything the xbox hasnt got games wise... for example i bought a ps2 exclusively at first to play gran turismo 4..every game i enjoy on the ps3 is just as good on an xbox!!

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myothercar
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 2:56:59 AM
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I thought I'd make a list to compare 2008 exclusives that have scored at least an 80% on Metacritic.

*******Retail 360 Games*******
Gears of War 2
Fable II
Left 4 Dead (console exclusive)
Viva Pinata: Trouble in Paradise
Tales of Vesperia
Ninja Gaiden II

*******Downloadable 360 Games*******
Braid
Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved 2
Portal: Still Alive
Rez HD (upgraded next-gen console exclusive)
Ikaruga (upgraded next-gen console exclusive)
N+ (upgraded next-gen console exclusive)
Castle Crashers
Kingdom for Keflings
Poker Smash

*******Retail PS3 Games*******
LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Resistance 2
Valkyria Chronicles
MLB 08: The Show
SingStar
Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds
MotorStorm: Pacific Rift
Buzz! Quiz TV

*******Downloadable PS3 Games*******
Echochrome (next-gen console exclusive)
PixelJunk Eden
Gran Turismo 5 Prologue
PixelJunk Monsters
Pixeljunk Monsters: Encore
WipEout HD

And GT5:P and WipEout HD are hardly bite-sized games.

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ffrulez
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:25:33 AM
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Home is announced for a release tomorrow. Click on the thread that says [OFFICIAL] from Sony website: Home Release Tomorrow - December 11th
on the official Home forums

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AntDC
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:52:24 AM
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JESUS CHRIST! HOME RELEASES TOMORROW! LORD BE PRAISED ETC. ETC.

MERRY CHRISTMAS SONY INDEED!

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ffrulez
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:59:23 AM

11th December release. It's official!

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Odd Child
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 9:27:48 AM

rofl and i just got a beta invite 2 days ago

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ffrulez
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:55:51 AM
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Ben, please make an article about this when you wake up. Nice thing to wake up to isn't it?
The official USA Blog has Jack Buser saying it too.
(this being PS Home's release)

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Banky A
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 2:10:12 AM

Hey ffgamera I'm from NZ too, would you like to add me? lolz
Can't wait for home. Though my broadband limit is nearly gone for the month, bloody 10gb.

Didn't think I'd find a Kiwi in this site

xD

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 4:04:42 AM
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Sweet, I'll have something to do as I adjust to my new medications... so the voices in my head will be coming from Home now?

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ffrulez
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 4:48:07 AM

Sorry I couldnt give the link, it requires "moderator approval".
But its a floated thread on the Official Home website.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 5:08:02 AM
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Late night huh ffgamera? I was playin games till about 4 (gotta beat a few before the xmas games can be played with proper attention) and now I'm wrapped up in my writing. Too much caffeine tonight, now I'll never get to sleep. *yawn*

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ffrulez
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:41:09 PM

Yeah, late night. About 11pm i went to sleep... Not really that late. It's a bit dodgy with time zones cos NZ has the quickest time zone in the world along with Fiji.
So, we have to wait several hours to a day for a release. Unless its a midnight release, then we are first :)

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AntDC
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 5:19:09 AM
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Hey Ffgamera, ur from NZ right? Has anything about Home come up on ur PS3 yet. Ive herd that when u reboot ur ps3 when homes avalible, the home icon will appear under PSN. We probably wont get Home til about 6am...

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ffrulez
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:37:54 PM

Yeah, I'm from NZ, the quickest Time Zone in the world LOL!
No, still nothing...

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AntDC
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 5:27:59 AM
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Im going to bed. Theres nothing quite more appealing then the fact when I wake up, Home will be avalible for download.

Well Done Sony.

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K ASH
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 5:42:12 AM
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Hi everybody. first time poster here.always check out this page everyday on my mobile. PS3 has the best Titles to date even the 100 of games that 360 has dont compare to our quality. It seems that most of the 360 fanboys are under 15 and ussualy enjoy any game they can get.

PS4EVER

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DigitalStorm
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 5:47:40 AM
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I think what the store seller forgot, and should of said was 'relative to'.

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Riku994
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 6:15:10 AM
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"Hell, 2009 will add exclusives like Killzone 2 (wait for the explosion, 360 fanboys), Heavy Rain, God of War III (wait for that explosion, too), Uncharted 2: Among Thieves and possibly Gran Turismo 5..."

Ben, you forgot White Knight Chronicles! It's gunna be the best RPG (depending on the success of FF13 and V13 if they're even released next year, I doubt it) and the 360 fans are gunna say it sucks cuz let's face it, the best RPG they have is Fable 2 and even though That's probly good (haven't seen or played it yet) WKC is gunna be way better.

I completely agree with this article though, I HATE when XBots say that the PS3 has no games.

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LightShow
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 6:33:55 AM

I have hopes for V13 as an Action/RPG, just as a purist's JRPG, WKC will blow the competition out of the water.

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ec0li
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 11:01:50 AM

Fable 2 is excellent but in my opinion, it's not the best rgp the 360 has. That title belongs to Mass Effect. Even Fallout 3 is better than Fable 2 in my eyes.

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Mornelithe
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 7:21:59 AM
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To be honest, if there are still consumers out there who still believe that line, they're the ignorant, uneducated type of consumer who really, nobody wants around their gaming networks anyway. Look things up yourself, don't believe everything you hear.

Morne

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FLYING_APE
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 7:26:50 AM
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SO MANY COMMENTS

Do you know what i need to get a social life this is ridiculous. This is turning into a ps fanboy site not a game site.

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robinhood2010
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 7:47:07 AM

i have to agree, some people when making comments that give their opinion which may be in the orientation that the ps3 is criticised in some manner, they get ripped to shreds by everyone else.

opinion is opinion. everyone should just be happy with what they have got.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 10:18:45 AM

Honestly, I don't think people will miss your comments if you choose to leave.

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Daedusian
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 11:33:07 AM

seriously stfu. Many people that have voiced their opinions here are NOT fanboys. The reason they are complaining is because of idiotic people making idiotic comments. I always try to ignore what people say about things, but you have to understand when somebody makes a comment that absolutely makes no sense whatsoever, the frustration builds up.

It's the equivalent of saying "Oh, the 360 has no games." Get it?? Geez...

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FLYING_APE
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 11:36:08 AM

I don't give a s**t if ppl are gonna miss my comments or not. I post on this site and i think it's the best on the internet but i also post on 3 others daily. All im saying is most of these comments scream PS3 FANABOY.

I have to admit i love starting flame wars but i don't take it seriously everyone here loves ps with a passion and they should love games in general.

Oh yeah BEN your writing is not that good lol...jk

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Zorigo
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:38:16 PM

man u r pessimistic. anyways, opinions are opinions and while i dislike fanboyism, i still hold the view that at the moment the ps3 is better than the 360/

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Nynja
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:43:31 PM

This article speaks truth about actual events that are exploiting false statements which simply misinform consumers.

This article was long overdue.

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noshownogo
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 8:20:01 AM
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wooo saaah Ben...I understand where you coming from and if you think that retail outlet was bad try G@me$top. They will discourage a Sony exec from purchasing a PS3 game in there.

We want assistance not opinions G@me$top!!

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karneli lll
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 8:52:21 AM
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Try buying games elsewhere.The reason why gamestop (and other organizations) act the way they do is because they think you dont have a choice.You can stop feeding the fire. I stopped going to gamestop n found Game xchange who are very ps3 friendly,never looked back since.

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cegmp
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 9:40:03 AM
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I'm glad to see Valkyria Chronicles in the list.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 10:24:09 AM
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vatossan: Warning for you. Two posts in here don't reflect well on this site and are quite inflammatory.

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VinTheDean
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 11:20:42 AM
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I totally agree with this article Ben. It's very annoying to have Xbots say that the PS3 does not have any games. Virtually all Multiplatform games came out on the PS3. Some had lighting differences which for some reason, xbots use this reason to call the PS3 inferior.

Plus as you noted and mytohercar noted, we had more Exclusives this year than they did. It looks the same way for next year as well.

Go Sony!!!

I do agree that Sony needs to higher M$ marketing director. They are kicking Sony's a$$ in that department.

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Zorigo
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:35:24 PM
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1) man that wiimote thing would've been funny
2) there are so many games which we have. the xbox has its exclusives but we are equal if not better; MGS and Gran Turismo aswell as Killzone and Res2, too name a few. the Wii has no games. even my wii owner friends admit it.

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Nynja
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:41:01 PM
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Thank You BEN.

I hear it all the time in stores from clerks who claim to 'know gaming'.

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Nynja
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:55:01 PM
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Yeah, PS3 has no games:

:the exclusives:

echochrome
Everyday Shooter
Eye of Judgment
Formula One Championship Edition
GT5 Prologue
Heavenly Sword
High Stakes on the Vegas Strip
Hot Shots Golf: Out of Bounds
LittleBigPlanet
Metal Gear Solid 4 (with Metal Gear Online)
MLB: The Show series
Motorstorm
NBA series
Ninja Gaiden: Sigma
Pixel Junk Eden
Ratche&Clank Future: Tools of Destruction
Ratchet&Clank: Quest for Booty
Resistance: Fall of Man
Resistance 2
SingStar
Siren
SOCOM: Confrontation
Super Stardust HD
Time Crisis 4
Uncharted: Drake's Fortune
Valkyria Chronicles
Warhawk
WipeOut HD

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Wolf26pack
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 4:16:41 PM

You Forgot to add Folklore & Lair to the PS3 Exclusives.

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Nynja
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 12:55:45 PM
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Multiplat titles (short list):

All-Pro Football series
Army of Two
Armored Core series
Assassin's Creed
Battlefield: Bad Company
Bigs, The
Bionic Commando Rearmed
Bioshock
Black Site: Area 51
Bladestorm
Blazing Angels series
Bourne Conspiracy, The
Burnout Paradise
Call of Duty 4
Call of Duty 5
Club, The
Clive Barker's Jericho
College Hoops series
Condemned 2: Bloodshot
Conan
Dark Sector
Darkness, The
Dead Space
Def Jam: Icon
Devil May Cry 4
Dragon Ball Z: Burst Limit
Dynasty Warriors series
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
Elder Scrolls IV: Shivering Isles
Enchanted Arms
Enemy Territory: QUAKE Wars
Eternal Sonata
FaceBreaker
Fallout 3
FarCry 2
F.E.A.R.
FIFA series
Fight Night Round 3
Godfather, The series
Golden Axe: Beast Rider
GRAW II
GTAIV
Guitar Hero series
Hellboy
Juiced series
Kane & Lynch: Dead Men
Last Guy, The
LEGO games (Indy, StarWars, Batman, etc)
Lost Planet: Extreme Condition
Madden NFL series
Major League Baseball series
Marvel: Ultimate Alliance
Medal of Honor: Airborne
Mirror's Edge
Monster Maddness
NASCAR series
NBA 2K series
NBA Ballers: Chosen One
NCAA Football series
NCAA March Maddness series
Need for Speed: Carbon
Need for Speed: Most Wanted
Need for Speed: Undercover
NFL Tour
NHL series
NHL 2k series
Orange Box, The
Pro Evolution Soccer series
Pure
Rock Band 2
Race Driver: GRID
Rainbow Six Vegas series
Ridge Racer series
Rock Band
Saints Row 2
Sega Rally Revo
Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution
Silen Hill
Simpson's Game, The
Skate
Soldier of Fortune: Payback
Sonic The Hedgehog
Soul Calibur IV
Spider-Man 3
Splinter Cell series
Star Wars: The Force Unleashed
Stranglehold
Street Fighter II Turbo HD Remix
Stuntman: Ignition
Tiger Woods PGA Tour series
Timeshift
Top Spin 3
Tom Clancy's End War
Tomb Raider Underworld
Tony Hawk series
Transformers: The Game
Turok
UEFA EURO 2008
Unreal Tournament III
Vampire Rain
Virtua Fighter 5
Virtua Tennis 3
WWE Smackdown! vs Raw series

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HANZ64
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 1:23:55 PM
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You should have grabbed a copy of MGS4, then interrupt the guy by saying if there was a 360 version for it.

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bearbobby
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 6:06:03 PM

I second this idea!

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shaydey77
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:38:12 PM
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For a console with no games im having great fun.

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The_Chimeran
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:49:46 PM
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what did u do with the customer/guy?

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CH1N00K
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 3:53:02 PM
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*sigh*

I think this topic needs to die a terrible death...quickly

All systems have decent games in their own respect, Sony needs to advertise more and educate the general public. We all know this We as Sony fans should help out where we can to help educate the masses.

If you see something like that happen in a store, why not ask about reliability issues on the xbox, or does it have a blu-ray player...not in a confrontational manner, but in a civil manner. Mention games like Drake's Fortune, LBP, MGS4 and R2. Or free to play online. Or HOME...the facebook people should love that.

For those of you that think that Sony should ignore the mass "ignorant" consumer, in favor of the "hardcore gamer" Pull your head out of you a$$ for a little while and look around. If they only supplied to the hardcore, they would be out of business real quick. Like it or not but the "real" gamers need the Casuals/Ignorants to keep the industry alive, they outnumber us, by a lot.

Instead of complaining about how everyone is ignorant and doesn't know as much about gaming as you do, why not go to your local gamestore and help educate? It's the Christmas season people are shopping, help them justify why they should spend more on a Sony. Next time you buy a game, take a minute to educate a parent what they should get their kids for Christmas, and how they can use the system to watch movies in HD themselves. I know I've already sold a few systems over an x-box (much to the chagrin of store employees) in gamestores/walmarts/best buys just because people saw how stoked I was on the PS3. You know why? Because the store employee is paid to tell them what to buy. The guy/girl that is standing in the store who has already bought/used the systems is on their side.

Like I said, Be civil, Speak clearly and not like you just crawled out from under a rock and do something about the problem, instead of just pretending it doesn't exist or coming in here and bitching about it.

You don't like the situation? DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT!!

Last edited by CH1N00K on 12/10/2008 3:54:40 PM

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Jed
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 10:21:53 PM

When people come to me at work and ask me about the PS3 I usually spend at least 5 minutes telling them all the stuff it can do.

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Dingodial
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 4:00:20 PM
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I'm not suprised that a "Geek Squad Biscuit" said it. I used to shop at Best Buy all the time but then I discovered Circuit City :).

Mr. Geek Squad forgot to mention that xbox360 has no wi-fi (an adapter can cost up to $100 so it is actually a better deal to get an 80gb. PS3 than it is to get a 60gb. 360 and then get a wi-fi adapter). He/she/it also forgot to mention that over the past year PSN has already caught up with Live and now they have all the same bells 'n wissles. The only difference is that one of them is free and the other one can cost up to over $60 a year (if ordered via the silver pack and not the gold). I can also bet you that he/she/it didn't mention the Experience vs. Home Beta debate, which one can play BD or support up to 7.1 channel surround sound, which one has a stronger CPU with 8 cores, or which one will be yesterday's news in a couple years (M$ will desert the 360 like they did with the original xbox once the 720 comes out).

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LightShow
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 4:53:10 PM

whats so much better about Circuit City? as far as i know the only difference is that CC is about dead...

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Dingodial
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 2:42:52 PM

@ LightShow
Circuit City is almost dead because they are handing out such good deals to the consumer that it is making them loose money. What other Retailer do you know that hands out $20 gift cards with purchase of select games?

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Wage SLAVES
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 4:20:18 PM
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Anyone who is that misleading is just fooling themselves and those who dont know any better. Period.

Last edited by Wage SLAVES on 12/10/2008 4:20:43 PM

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eaglebaize
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 4:51:24 PM
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I LOL'd when you said "I wanted to rip open a Wii-mote and jam it into his eye socket." xD

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ImTheMan
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 5:18:35 PM
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the ps3 still wont ever catch the 360 and wii imo.

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bearbobby
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 6:30:57 PM

The PS3 was designed with longevity and value in mind. It's more than a straight-up game console, it's a full blown multimedia system with rock-solid hardware performence that's built to last.

I've played the Wii at a friend's house, it's cute and some of the games are indeed fun, but it's not on the same playing field. For all it's gameplay "ingenuity" it's stuck in the past, a glorified gamecube on mild steroids. It's like comparing the original Playstation to Sega's 32X.

The 360 is indeed much closer performance wise and does have some multimedia capabilities. But it wasn't a forward thinking system, still using DVD format rather than stepping up to HD of some sort and obviously rushed to market as the still occuring hardware faliures attest to.

While both of these base systems are indeed less expensive than the PS3, the many components imbedded in the PS3 (wi-fi, blu-ray, harddrive, etc.) sold seperately would cost twice what you paid for the all-in-one experience.

Remember, you get what you pay for. And I know as I plunked down cash for my PS3 I was getting more than just a game console, I was getting a highly reliable piece of equipment that is the star of my multimedia show, guaranteed to be supported for at least the next 8 years. Can you say the same for the wee Wii and MS box?

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Arkhon
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 6:17:45 PM
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I totally agree. I didn't buy the PS3 back when it came out mostly because it lacked a strong library of compelling games like the Xbox 360 did at the time I got it (summer last year). Now, though, I'm feeling like an idiot and desperately trying to save up enough money to buy a PS3. For a long time, I was of the notion that the only games the PS3 had were all Japanese RPGs, sports games, and racing games, which I considered to be meant for emo people, losers, and car nuts rather than sci-fi fan gamer nerds like me. I still have trouble getting over the emo stereotype for all PS3 users (everyone I know who has a PS3 is mega emo).

Last edited by Arkhon on 12/10/2008 6:32:29 PM

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Saber1989
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 7:14:46 PM
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I always have the exact same argument every time I talk to a fanboy especially at an EB store. In the beginning I would agree but now I believe I have earn bragging rights on my buddies and those EB games sales people.

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Linkthatlove
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 8:08:44 PM
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I am sorry for the importer guy. even though this is a true hardcore for life websites for ps3 owners, i will express my feelings not towards the system but too the fanboys itself. by the time your reading this youll probably asking yourself "who is this loser" well i just registered like 10 minutes ago, just because i felt bad for the importer being as someone who hates the ps3. i dont think he hates he, he likes it and it even shows on his comments, so i just registered for the sake of this comment saying that im neutral, fanboys for wii 360 and ps3 are all sick bastards with no life but wiill stand up to their system no matter what. im not going to include whisch systems i own cause ill be picked on that, so as Ben Dutka said no attacking, well i really dont want to attack but situations like this just make me really mad. and this article just frustrates me, even if bestbuy worker talks about the ps3,noone should get mad about it, hes is just expressing how he feels towards the costumers. youll probably spam me, thumbs dow my comment and probabaly get deleted soon,but all im asking you guys is pls dont be a loser and make fun at things and stating with minimal proof why each system is better than the other

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 9:19:01 PM

No, the employee at Best Buy is NOT expressing an opinion. Influencing a customer to buy a product by speaking an untruth about another product is a problem.

Whether or not the PS3 has plenty of good games is NOT subjective.

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bustin98
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 3:20:59 PM

I could ask my mom if the PS3 has any good games. As a Christian conservative, what do you think her answer would be? Of course, she would have the same answer for any system since she would rather do yard work than sit in front of the tv.

Whether or not a game is 'good' is just as subjective as whether or not a song is 'good'.

In the Best Buy case, the clerk was in the wrong. Present the facts and let the customer ask questions. I used to be a manager for a music store, and there was an older customer who was buying some alternative cds. I made a comment about buying for someone else and she was buying for herself. Oops! I could have handled it differently instead of putting my bias on the situation.

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karneli lll
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 8:35:35 PM
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Jeez...calling someone a fanboy because they have different view is just wrong.,just so plain wrong

Last edited by karneli lll on 12/10/2008 8:41:51 PM

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, December 10, 2008 @ 10:48:42 PM
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Playstation3 GO GO GO!

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cadpig
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 2:55:15 AM
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"HDTV penetration will boom in 2009 because of the DTV Switch and because of the price drop on most LCDs"

I couldn't agree more..

This is why 2009 is going to be the year of the PS3. Sony has alot of great games. The DTV switch is going to be the gamebreaker in the videogame console war.

Last edited by cadpig on 12/11/2008 2:57:44 AM

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SilverLion
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 6:56:54 AM

I'm not really sure what one has to do with the other. Digital TV isn't the same as High Def. The cable companies will still be offering SDTV at 480i and EDTV at 480p, so we'll see a lot of people opting for the free digiral converter box. HDTV will still be an additional cost; its additional income for the cable companies, after all.
I think the gamebreaker will eventually be the storage capacity. Even if XBox comes out with a Blu-Ray add-on device, it would be vor video playing only and they still can't play games off of it. They'll be resorting to more multiple-disc games when PS3 will just start using more of the blu-ray disc capacity.

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SilverLion
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 6:48:58 AM
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I'm sorry but I can see where the argument lies. I've been gaming for quite a while, and since the PSX, Sony has been the RPG console. I remember getting the PSX for Final Fantasy VII. I don't have an XBox and I probably won't get one, but when I look at the RPGs for PS3, its pathetic. My first games were Enchanted Arms (an ok RPG) and Oblivion, which I've put 160 hours into and counting... because its the only good RPG I've seen on PS3!

Its been two years since launch, and all we've really added to that is Fallout 3 (spectacular!), Valkyria Chronicles, and Eternal Sonata (haven't played those yet). Disgaea is a strategy game with RPG elements (at least the first two were), and Marvel Ultimate Alliance is just *not* an RPG.

So we have... uh... a half-dozen relevant games for me in the first two years. If we compare that to the launches of Genesis, SNES, PSX, and PS2, it doesn't even compare. So I have a big, loud, hot blu-ray player. I can't say I'm not disappointed. But I still wouldn't get an XBox.

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shovenstuff
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 8:01:29 AM
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I agree and disagree, sony has made up some major ground but it still doesn't have that great multiplayer game, I'm not choosing sides because I love to play good games and that is why I just purchased both consoles, I love MGS4, Drakes, and Heavenly Sword. But I can't get enough Halo & Gears great multiplayer games that have replay value, and since xbox has netflix that's outstanding, my biggest gripe about xbox is. I AM ON MY THIRD CONSOLE. That sux more than anything and I think is the biggest negative about Xbox is the red ring of death. Man to be without a console for 2 weeks thank god for my reliable PS3. So I guess I'm saying if you can get both u won't be sorry as for the wii talk about not having any games the only good games are the games nintendo makes, so if you are going 2 have 2 consoles go with Xbox and PS3

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GamerPrincess81
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 12:00:42 PM
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I think it's mainly the XBox fanboys that push that argument to the limit. I always get that whenever I defend the PS3 and go on about it's phenomenal specs. Funny thing is that it is the only argument they seem to come up with for XBox's "dominance" over PS3. Granted the PS3 does not have the abundance of the 360 but it also came a good year after. I still find it quite sad that despite it's good head start, 360 still is far behind Wii and PS3 is quickly catching up to it in terms of sales. Why is it that no 360 fan will speak of that?

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shovenstuff
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 12:28:42 PM

Not true the xbox has sold in the us through december 6th 312,929 consoles and the PS3 has only sold 145,182 in weekly sales comparison graphs check the numbers http://vgchartz.com/
I do agree that microsoft is putting more into their advertising compared to sony but the nintendo is still dominating because of its everybody can have fun sales pitch my mother in law got a wii and she is in her 60's so they have tapped into a new crowd

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Edito
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 3:15:45 PM
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the arguments simply is stupid here is a list of some game the PS3 doesn't have according to the xbox fanboys... all the games in the list exist and are available why they keep using this stupid argument tsc...

http://www.ps3forums.com/showthread.php?t=78574

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Doomsquirrel
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 4:00:48 PM
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Actually I did that to a 360 fanboy with a Wiimote, but it wasn't his eye socket and that's all i'm gonna say...

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DVE SIXBURGH
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 5:58:32 PM
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PS3 HAS GAMES PERIOD! END OF DISCUSSION!

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Lairfan
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 8:50:25 PM
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I hate this argument when it's used against me or other PS3 owners. Around here, there's only about 3 PS3 owners for every 100 360 owners; literally. So I get verbally abused every day for my console choice.

I just tend to ignore them when they use this. If it's a store clerk, sometimes I'll barge in, but only if they're using it in an extremely obnoxious way.

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orangpelupa
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 9:09:09 PM
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ps3 have a lot of games.

but the ps3 exclusive that i like is : little big planet and MGS4.

ps3 have too many shooters and i really cant shoot using gamepad :(
tried playing CoD4 using gamepad and i cant shot or knife enemy :(

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orangpelupa
Thursday, December 11, 2008 @ 9:09:14 PM
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NetheRealm
Friday, December 12, 2008 @ 10:22:28 AM
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"the only people that get banned are hostile and/or fanboy freaks/"Ben. Unfortunately, this is not the case on PSN forums as I'm currently banned there for non hostile flame/fanboy reasons. My last post there before being banned was titled "When I get banned from Home.""I'll buy a new PS3 & be back the next day." I guess the mods there disapproved of that subversive idea because it undermines their power & banning authority..

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NetheRealm
Friday, December 12, 2008 @ 11:10:22 AM
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Arkhon
Saturday, December 13, 2008 @ 9:57:23 AM
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I am guilty of using this argument before, with slight modifications: "The PS3 doesn't many of the sort of games that I like." It really only had sports games, JRPGs, and multi-platform titles when I bought my Xbox 360.

Last edited by Arkhon on 12/13/2008 10:06:27 AM

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supercham
Sunday, December 14, 2008 @ 11:16:28 AM
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Well it as simple as this i bought a 360 coz most of my friends have one. So we play online together. If i bought a ps3 i would no-one to play with coz only 2 of those ppl are online with their ps3

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