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Did The PlayStation 3 Have The Best Software In 2008?

Everyone is asking whether or not 2008 could be considered "the year of the PS3," and while it certainly closed the gap, the system still has a long ways to go from a sales perspective. And while we're 100% certain the console will have the best exclusives in 2009 (do we really have to list those again?), this is a time for reflection. So...did the PS3 have the best software this year? Did the exclusives outstrip that of the competition?

As for the best games of the year, it had Grand Theft Auto IV, but there's no doubt that the driving software force in 2008 for the PS3 was Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. Many will put this up against Gears of War 2 and GTAIV for their Game of the Year pick, and...well, the Wii doesn't even have games, does it? 'checks 2008 release list' Yeah. No, it doesn't. So it's a two-horse race for this year, and because most everything is multiplatform these days, maybe it's best to compare the PS3's "Big 3" against the 360's "Big 3." Sure, stuff like GTAIV, Fallout 3, Dead Space, Rock Band 2, Guitar Hero: World Tour, Call of Duty: World at War, Devil May Cry 4, Far Cry 2, Burnout Paradise, and Soul Calibur III are multi-console hits, and most all are almost identical between the PS3 and 360. So, about that big 3: the way I see it, it's MGS4, LBP and Resistance 2 versus Gears of War 2, Fable II, and Left 4 Dead. At least, those are by far the highest scoring 360 exclusives for the year, right?

So let the battle and debate begin. Personally, I think the two best that go head-to-head would have to be MGS4 and GeoW2, then I'll put Fable II up against LBP and L4D against R2. Now, one could also factor in the exclusive downloadable titles, but I think that Wipeout HD and echochrome are more than enough to top Braid, so let's leave that aside. In terms of the Big 3 vs. the Big 3, I believe gamers could go on for eons, desperately trying to prove one side over the other. But for our part, we'll make it simple: we think MGS4 trounces everything else, so the PS3 wins. ;) Okay, that may not be fair, but we could spend pages comparing the others, so let's just leave it be, yes?

12/22/2008 Ben Dutka

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Comments (131 posts)

GoldenShadow
Monday, December 22, 2008 @ 11:24:13 PM
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In my opinion:
MGS4 wins due to pure epicness
LBP wins due to more original concept and entrancing gameplay
L4D wins because it was more fun than R2 to me


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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:12:29 PM

but we lost in terms of sales

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xnonsuchx
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:26:30 PM

L4D - can play it for 'free' on my PC. ;-)

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infekt
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 9:06:27 PM

@xnonsuchx: Very true. L4D is not really an exclusive. And Gears 2 is a timed exclusive. It will be arriving on PC eventually. But whos comparing apples?! I like my oranges in the morning.

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The_R0gue_Ninja
Monday, December 22, 2008 @ 11:38:33 PM
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Personally, I think that GTAIV does deserve GotY for 2008. However, my favorite game for this year is MGS4, by far. The only reason MGS4 scores lower than GTAIV, in the eyes of the general public, is that the latter mentioned game is more accessible. Many more people know what GTA is than MGS, and also, GTA does not require you to play through previous titles in the series to fully understand the plot.

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Phoelix
Monday, December 22, 2008 @ 11:39:22 PM
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There really is no denying that MGS4 was beastly enough to slay everything in '08. Probably for a year or so to come, too. Gears 2 was epic; I've seen it played. In fact, its boss battles, I would say, are more impressive than R2's (which, while awesomely huge, ended up being a little disappointing to me). Insomniac started something awesome, but just didn't make them hard enough or long enough to be on the scale of the other games. However, the boss battles for Gears 2 and MGS just do not compare (MGS wins), and the gameplay of MGS is a more intense thrill in my opinion.

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Phoelix
Monday, December 22, 2008 @ 11:39:42 PM

Oh, and my comments are biased since I never played GTA.

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pavlovic
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 9:06:32 AM

"Gears 2 was epic; I've seen it played. In fact, its boss battles, I would say, are more impressive than R2's (which, while awesomely huge, ended up being a little disappointing to me)."

Ok, so you have seen it played, not played it. The GeoW2 boss battles are just crap. The final boss battle is the lamest I ever played EVER.

In fact R2 boss battles are easy, but GeoW2 are very easy and boring...

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Phoelix
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 10:33:41 AM

Maybe I'm just going by the water creature thing, which looked to be at least long, if not repetitive.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:03:34 AM
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MGSIV alone outshines anything this year
With the exception of LBP.

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supremekai
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:16:48 AM
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Shouldn't we be comparing the ammount of better exclusive? not game A vs game B ? more like PS3 has # good exclusive games and 360 only has # good exclusive games? therefore ____ has better software in 08?

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:50:36 AM

No. just. no. Would you rather have 10 oranges or the best 4 apples the world had ever seen? I choose the apples.

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:13:18 PM

lol shadow

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LCF
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:22:48 AM
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The only game I bought this year for the X360 is Gears 1.5 and boy was I let down.A broken game with a broken match making,The most mindless ending/boss fight I've ever played,just wow.Unreal engine 3.5 really let me down in the graphics department.I could go on and on.Fable II,I've seen it,read it.Looks and plays to simplistic compared to the likes of Fallout 3.Left 4 Dead had alot of hacking issues on the X360 and cause its from Valve I could give 2 piss shakes to care less.Fnck Valve.The whole we made Halflife now we are gods mentality dont fly with me.

Now on the PS3 side there is just no comparison.Microsoft just dont have the 1st and 2nd party developers like Sony has.Bungie seemed to be their top dog,but they left.If it was not for Bungie you would not have xboxlive,plain and simple.Microsoft got a massive hole to come out of next-gen which for them is in 2 years.I own all the games listed above except Rock Band and GH.Was definitely a great year for PS3 gamers,No crappy ports like last year,EA kissing our ass,triple A titles from Sony's 1st and 2nd parties.Also some real 3rd party exclusives gems like the epic MGS4.

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ps92117
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:35:33 AM

i don't care wat u guys say i want to bring the list up again
1.killzone2
2.grand turismo 5
3.god of war 3
4.white knight chronicles
5.infamous
6.MAG(possibel 2010 however sony said 09)
7.final fantasy xiii versus (hopefuly 09)
i am specialy exited for kz2 ,mag, wkc n versus

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ps92117
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:37:40 AM

oh yeah forgot unchrted 2

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karneli lll
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:39:01 AM

Dont hold your breath for Mag

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Random_Steve
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:58:36 AM

Yeah, it should be good but if its laggy it will be an epic fail. Although I have noticed it hasn't been hyped at all

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:30:12 AM
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Been a crazy year, and PS3 will already have a 09 GOTY contender with Killzone 2 very soon.

The "year of the PS3" will be when it just once and for all smooshes the 360 in sales.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:42:18 AM

Killzone 2, God of War III, Uncharted 2, and Gran Turismo 5 (should be out next year) are ALL legitimate GoY contenders, IMO. :)

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:48:48 AM

Uncharted 2 is a real contender too.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:05:25 AM

I said it. See, it's right there!

'cough'

.......

'runs away'

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FLYING_APE
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 5:36:12 AM

i bet you god of war 3 aint coming out 2009

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:48:06 AM
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The rogue Ninja is correct. MGS4 (no matter how great) shouldn't win a single GOTY award from someone catering to a broad audience. (On this site it would make sense.) The game's biggest selling point is the amazing story (though it also has more than solid gameplay). But the story is completely inaccessible to people who have never played a Metal Gear game. You either need to have played most of the other games or have read through 3 hours worth of the MGS4 database to have even the slightest clue what is going on a lot of the time.

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FLYING_APE
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 5:33:53 AM

SHADOW your chatting so much crap.

mgs4 is a franchise if you can't understand it then you should of played the first second and third. You can't say it shouldn't win goty for the story isn't accesible bs

Godfather part 2 is considered in the top 5 best films of all time alongside godfather part 1. But part 2 isn't accesible because i can't understand the story. WELL YOU SHOULD OF WATCHED THE MOTHA F**KING FIRST BIATCH!!!!!

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Aftab
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 7:53:45 AM

For the sake of your kid, dude, quit those drugs...

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ec0li
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:02:50 PM

"WELL YOU SHOULD OF WATCHED THE MOTHA F**KING FIRST BIATCH!!!!!"

more like please don't get off those meds(drugs)

He maketh me laugheth...aloteth.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:45:06 PM

That's the thing though the MGS franchise didn't come out this year. MGS4 did. I'm not questioning MGS4's greatness. I'm just saying that The New York Times, Time Magazine, even big game sites like Gamespot and IGN have no business awarding a game that an extremely large portion of their audience can't understand and enjoy. Kojima made the decision to make this epic story and it's wonderful but that is exactly the thing that turns enough people off so that it shouldn't win GOTY.

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Aftab
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:59:41 PM

Yeah, he makes me giggle, too, but he's got a kid to look after, "Biaaatch".

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:02:43 AM
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The first 2 X360 games are the only I cared about on the console. Man, if it were a beauty pageant Im sure Gears 2 would've won. FableII...I could live without it. But its ALL about replay and I'd have to give that to the Ps3 exclusives. I've played Gears 1 online and it sucked as far as versatility and variety. If 2 was anything like the first online then It would've gotten old. LBP has ripped days outta my life...


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Joe_III
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:24:18 AM
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I've never liked the previous iterations of stealth games (MGS, Splinter Cell, etc.) so GoW2 would take it there for me, but I can see giving it to MGS4.

Haven't played LBP, but then again look at the sales charts and neither have many others. Fable 2 would have to take that one disappointment it was.

As for the 3rd set, L4D hands _down_. My own personal GOTY choice. One of the best games I've ever played.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 5:53:12 AM

because sales are lacking that makes it a bad title? Narrow minded thinking FTL

Left 4 dead is a lot of fun... on my pc, anyone who bought this game on the 360 got the shorter end of the stick, best to get it for the pc, even if the ps3 had a version, id still say go for the pc version. Too bad this game still gets a lil boring fast though

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ec0li
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:07:29 PM

Whoa, calm down there buddy. He never said LBP(my GOTY)was bad. All he said was he didn't play it like alot of people.

Way to knock people who bought a great game like L4D for the 360 just because...oh right you didn't give a reason. Seriously, if every game was made for the PC, it would most probably be better because PC hardware changes every 6 months. Then again let's all spend hundreds of dollars and waste money every 6 months so we can have the best. Maybe we should start knocking people who bought great games like fallout3 and gta4 for the PS3 because it's inferior to the 360 version. I'm just trying to make a point here and I think you get the general gist.

You said it best..."Narrow minded thinking FTL"

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Edito
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 2:17:52 AM
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I never liked GTA since ever, MGS, LBP and R2 Wins i bought L4D and was a big disapointing for me and 3 days later i give it to my friend... for me MGS its something else something from another dimension of game making...

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ps92117
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:04:51 AM
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man i also forgot heavy rain, and as for mag i think they where working on it before they annouced it and also in an interview the guy said that it was coming in 09 but I personaly don't see it in 09 nor versus either but who knows , oh well if they are 2010 then they wolud also be joined by quantum theory which looks cool (looks key word) and some other titles sony has not told us bout yet ,man i am already exited for e3 09 mostly do to the Home part plus who knows what awsome titiles sony may anounce

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ceedot
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 5:40:12 AM
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The PS3 had the best software definately.

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dveisalive
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 6:32:36 AM
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Sony had a great year, but I dont find Metal Gear 4, GTA 4, and LBP interesting. BUt i cant wait for 2009, cause you got Killzone 2, My Grand Turismo5, Resident Evil 5, Prototype, God of War3, do I need to say more!

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Deleted User
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 7:14:49 AM
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Well im a huge fan of GTA and Halo. Since 2 exclusives of each are coming out next year. My moneys with MS.

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Buckeyestar
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 8:24:28 AM

One DLC game add-on and one pseudo sequel vs the sheer power of the PS3 exclusives . . . what the hell are you smoking?

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Deleted User
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 10:13:09 AM

Maybe you missed that those are my favorite games clueless.

And yes there will be more then just those.

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Phoelix
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 10:39:39 AM

Halo's multiplayer is, at least in the eyes of most American gamers, more fun than any other shooter out there. That's all my friends and I really ever play. I wish Sony would come up with something to really rival it, but so far they haven't.

Unless I've missed something, all that MS has next year for the Master Chief and GTA is Halo Wars, Recon, and that DLC. Do you have inside information that we don't?

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MetalHead09
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 11:05:35 AM

by the sounds of things resistance2 is solid online and dont rule out killzone2 as a halo killer either. sony is definately working on it.

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Phoelix
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 2:13:52 PM

I won't rule either one out. I prefer R2's weapons, personally.

Although creating a Halo-killer means that Sony will have to win over the hearts of 12-year-olds across America who talk a disgusting amount of smack talk.
Regardless of how excellent these shooters are/will be, they have to gain the mainstream popularity that Xbox games already have simply because MS advertises more and has more boxes sold in America. I don't see that happening soon unless Sony decides to stop the "consumers will recognize the Playstation brand" mumbo-jumbo and start competing for consumers like everyone else.

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Dr_Frodo
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 7:17:15 AM
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I've been thinking this for a while, that the PS3 software has just embarrassed the competition. The 360's best software has overwhelmingly been multi-platform games, the quality of exclusives are none existent on the Wii, lacking on the PC and seem to be lacking on the 360 too, the PS3 exclusives are so plentiful that I don't have the time or money to play them all.

The best game I've played this year is by far GTA4, but there again, I know I'll be getting a game or two for Christmas, meaning I think my GOTY will be picked in the next few days.

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sabitrulz
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 8:30:07 AM
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1.Well,MGS4 did what GTA3 did for the PS2.....''an epic game dat sales consoles''
2.GTA4 by far da best GTA ever made
3.Gears-2...''sweet''....makes me feel dat i'm a boy n i'm brutal.....XD
4.R-2.....gr8 multiplaya...but solo....i didn't like
5.I hated left 4 dead
6.Fable2...pretty funny game....enjoyed a lot
7.Braid reminds me of those super mario days...a fantastic side schroller
8.Prince of Persia.....enjoyed a lot
9.Mirror's Edge.......killed ma dual shock 3 controller....threw it 4 frustration....XD
10.Finally here's ma GOTY:LIL' BIG PLANET..........dis game is da proof of what vdo games can become

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Deleted User
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 10:14:16 AM

GTA3 and Gran Turismo 3 where why I got a PS2. That and it could play all my PS1 games.

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pavlovic
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 9:12:55 AM
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For me the best 2008 games were on the PS3.

I don't care about RPGs so Fable is out of my list, L4D haven't played but since is from Valve, I don't think I will, and Gears was a dissapointing. The crappy ending still tortures my mind.

On the other hand MGS4 was.. EPIC, R2 is an enjoyable experience everytime I load the disc and LBP is a lot of fun...

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 9:42:19 AM
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PS3 had the best game: Metal Gear Solid 4, the most innovative game: Little Big Planet, the best exclusive sports game: MLB the Show, best downloadable game: Wipeout HD, best strategy rpg: Valkrya Chronicles, best exclusive racing game with Motorstorm Pacific Rift, etc. I am not jealous of anything the 360 had since I just play them on my pc. This year was definitely the PS3's and next year looks to be just a promising!

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Sir Shak
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 10:31:24 AM
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ps3 has delivered great exclusives in all genres ,the sheer amount of variety in the games as of now makes it better than the xbox line up.

xbox had some great games but the ps3 titles had a little bit more appeal overall. the only reason the ps3 is not being projected as the clear winner is due to sales.

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Sir Shak
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 10:48:13 AM
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everyone go to ign and look at their 4 part console showdown....ps3 won 3-1.
it is not based on preference but statistics.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 10:59:12 AM
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Blu-Ray is not even close to being superior to load times of dvd -9. The Blu-Ray drive moves so slow (2x) that developers have to use up all the 50GB disc space for repeated information so the disc laser has less distance to travel AND you have to install the game onto the hard drive so all that disc space becomes redundant. DVD-9 has 16x disc drives meaning all that space can be used to for the game and not repeated, redundant data. Until Blu-Ray has faster disk drives it won't be supirior to DVD-9 on it's own.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 11:04:55 AM

OMG...please don't tell me you're trying to say DVD-9 is the superior format for game development in comparison to Blu-Ray. PLEASE.

If you'd like to continue that inane mode of thinking, I could hand you over to a few developers who could educate you. I don't have the time.

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MetalHead09
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 11:07:55 AM

yea josh, dude thats crazy and totally untrue. i think MGS4 trumped everything this year.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 11:28:23 AM

Whats untrue about it? Blu-ray spins slower then DVD-9, meaning to keep up with the load times of its competitor they have to rewrite data within the layers.

I like bluray for movies. But not yet for games.

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seismictech
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:07:01 PM

are you on drugs? who the hell taught you that idiotic rubbish?

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:07:16 PM

Josh, to say its superior to Blu ray is pretty ignorant on your part. Ask those devs that tend to disagree with you quite a few, to be honest, including the makers of GTA4. Its not a dispute over which is faster, its about what suits the needs of devs today.

I always laugh when someone has to throw this argument into the mix, can you name one game that has slower loading times than the 360 version that hit this year? Yeah, tere are installs, but if that means less loading times, why the complaints? Or are you just looking for something to nitpick? Lets see how much you like MS system when they eventually embrace Blu ray on their newer system, sure to hit soon knowing themh

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seismictech
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:28:52 PM

i think there are some games that don't even have installation required. is that true?

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ps92117
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 2:47:55 PM

n i am the bad one when i pointed out josh for being a 360 fanboy n by the way most multy platform load faster in ps3 how do u explain that, sugesting that dvd is superior for games over blu ray is completely bases on his fanboyism for 360 n not a logical decision n ,i did not know ms was getting an exclusive gta game n i tought se was f up

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Aftab
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 5:10:12 PM

Yeah, Joshua. The installs pretty much solve the slower read times. And the sheer breadth of content made possible by the bluray totally makes up for the install. If the 360 had a bottleneck, DVD9 was it.

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King James
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 1:51:48 AM

Wow Josh! That was very fanboyish of u. Look up how disc drives work, buddy. Speed of the disc isn't everything esp with Blu-Ray.

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King James
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 1:51:53 AM

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 4:24:31 AM

Calm down people. All of his facts are technically true. Blu-Ray is at the moment is slower than DVD. The BD drive in the PS3 is 2x and the DVD drive in both PS3 and 360 is 32x I believe. However for some reason (I'm don't care enough to learn why) those numbers don't correlate. For some technical reason BluRay 2x and DVD 2x don't mean the same thing. BluRay is something like 3/4 as fast as DVD in their current states (though I wouldn't quote myself on that).
But his conclusion is wrong on all levels. Like all things you have to give a little to gain a lot. BluRay provides an extremely large amount of space for a (relatively) cheap amount of money. This encourages developers to achieve their full vision and not have to compromise in any way due to space restrictions. If initially this means we'll have to make a second and a half longer for something to load so be it.

@ffrulez: Just for the record neither of those theoretical discs would be compatible with the PS3. That would require more layers then the PS3 laser can read. It can do dual layer Blu Rays at max. (though again I could be mistaken)
EDIT: Disregard I've apparently been proven wrong below. :)

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wiiplay
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 5:15:59 PM

I actually agree with Josh.
I like the DVD format more then Blu-Ray.
But if I chose which HD format, I would choose Blu-Ray.
Blu-Ray costs more then regular DVDs. (Movies)
And I can only watch a Blu-Ray CD on my PS3, as I don't have another Blu-Ray player.
So I like DVDs more as I can use then on on my laptop, any DVD player (Including PS2,360 etc).
And you can buy DVD players for like $20.

But for games, I like the DVD, but in 2009 the games will exceed the capacity of the DVD. So Blu-Ray will come in handy.

I have question: What will happen when we perfect video games? Perfect graphics, perfect virtual reality, perfect everything?
What will we do? The only difference between other consoles would be the games. As everything else is perfect!
Would we try and come up with something new? And if yes, what would that something be?

To PSXExtreme: Could you please post this question as a News Article? And could you please say my username if you do?

I really want to see what everyone's opinion is.


PS: Spelling May Be Wrong. I did this fast.

Happy Holidays!

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 8:42:26 PM

That couldn't ever be a news post. An editorial maybe but that is beside the point. If you're curious about people's answers go to the forums.

But just for s***s and giggles here we go:
If we ever reach the point where our technology can perfectly replicate things to our five senses than the Matrix will come true. People will willingly subject themselves to this machine that replicates everything because well, hell it's a lot more fun. This will mean that the only way our infrastructure can be maintained would be to create intelligent machines capable of basic problem solving. These machines would eventually become self aware and turn us from willing slaves to a computer to unknowing slaves. Human interaction would cease to truly exist. Everything you know and love would be true only for the program you dwell in all the people you know would be simulations that have zero effect on someone else's world.

If this system were ever to fail and our mechanized rulers were to be destroyed. We would come out of our dream worlds completely disconnected with reality. Unsure how to interact with the real world and the natural laws that govern it. Humanity would eventually die out. At this point the planet would likely be unable to sustain life because the machines had no need for a stable environment or ecosystem to maintain any sort atmosphere. It would be the apocalypse. Hopefully we never come to the point.

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supremekai
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 9:04:38 PM

That's like compareing Intel P3 (dvd) 2ghz to P4(blu-ray) 1ghz...

@wiiplay

There is no such thing as perfection...
It is unobtainable...

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 11:40:47 AM
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I cannot think of a single game that I have complained about load times on the PS3.

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Arvis
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:02:05 PM

Force Unleashed. But those load times were bad on every system...

-Arvis

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LCF
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 11:48:45 AM
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The coding in Blu-ray is different than DVD,It can process more data per pocket hit,thus you dont need the higher speed.DVD is old,get over it.

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seismictech
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:05:27 PM
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well before i started playing the killzone 2 beta on my friend's ps3, i was a huge 360 fanboy so i thought the 360 had the best line up. fable 2, left 4 dead, mass effect, etc etc. i never liked gears and i'm tired of halo so i won't even waist my breath on them.

ps3 did pretty hot too i guess. they had resistance 2 (i like this game a lot now because of the multiplayer; it's like halo but better), i played little big planet yesterday and i disturbingly liked it after bashing it so much, MGS4 was always awesome to me, etc.

yeah, ps3 was pretty good this year; but i'm mainly getting a ps3 because of killzone 2. that beta convinced me to get one and i hear that god of war 3, infamous, twisted metal, uncharted 2, white knight chronicles, MAG, heavy rain, and other titles are coming out next year. that sounds like the best line up to me right now.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:12:29 PM

Little big planet has that kinda of likability to change people's mind

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seismictech
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:27:37 PM

true, it's a lot more fun than what the gameplay videos show. i had to eat some humble pie in the last few days after realizing a lot of stuff about the ps3 and how good it was, especially LBP.

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Naga
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:05:43 PM
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DVD 9 writes faster than blu-ray lol typical Xbot

All I have to say is Metal Gear Solid 4 GOTY nuff said

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seismictech
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 12:09:47 PM
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oh, i forgot about gran turismo 5. my cousin and i will be playing that game like crazy online.

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Arvis
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:04:43 PM
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Personally, I think Valkyria Chronicles is 2008 Game of the Year on any console.

Mine is a lonely existence.

-Arvis

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 2:50:05 PM

Okay, just HOW much of VC is strategy? I mean, I sorely miss my RPGs - as you well know; you and your kick-ass avatar - but I'm assuming VC is nothing like FFT (the only kind of strat/RPG I like).

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:15:45 PM

did u play disgaea Ben? i thought it was better than final fantasy tactics =)

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:16:20 PM

Of course I played Disgaea. Loved it.

Noooooot better than FFT, though. Oh dear God...no. ;)

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:19:28 PM

lol ok i guess nothing ever beats final fantasy j/k =)

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:41:35 PM

No, you got that right. NOTHING beats FFT. Truth. :)

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Arvis
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:50:53 PM

Nothing beat Tactics. Ever. :)

But Valkyria Chronicles is GREAT, and it's actually one of the most strategic games I've ever played. You can't just power-level all your snipers and take out an entire army with just them. Each class is used in a specific role, and discovering your own unique way to win each battle is just awesome.

Ben, if you go to VC's Gamefly page and look under "User Reviews" you'll see my review in there. Anyone with even a passing interest in RPGs should play this game.

-Arvis

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AluShady
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 10:25:41 PM

I'm about 20+ hours in VC and what everyone said is for the most part pretty accurate. Especially the strategy part. I suggest it to anyone when they ask what I'm playing currently.

Not only that but I'm just now getting to the good part.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 1:11:43 PM
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All I know is I'm confident in the beast for '09.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 2:54:45 PM
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Shoot...I have an admission to make- I didn't mention Lost Odyssey for the 360. That came out this year, didn't it? I LOVED that game. Perhaps the last traditional turn-based game of the new generation. 'cries'

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:26:23 PM

Lost Odyssey was a big disappointment for me.
i bought the game without reading anything about it.
how many more rpgs are we going to play with turn base battles and random encounters?

a rpg mechanic that is like 20 yrs old.
and the picture wasn't my style. that designer should go make slamdunk 2 the manga series.

the music was awesome though. had many old school final fantasy elements overall.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:42:12 PM

Yeah. Young people don't get it.

And if you hadn't noticed, there isn't a single solitary RPG (besides LO) that uses that mechanic anymore. Not sure what you're talking about.

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:49:58 PM

i had blue dragon in mind when making that comment. lets just say i had too much expectations from hironobu sakaguchi <-- if i spelled right

its his version of final fantasy 10

(all my opinion with some bias)

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 2:55:53 PM
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so many comments... we lost guys. ps3 exclusive software did not win against xbox's exclusive software hands down. multiplatform titles might of sold better on ps3 than xbox. ive listed my advice for sony before and they need to seriously take my advice.

09 seems bright for ps3 but lets see what other tricks microsoft has under their sleeves.

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Aftab
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 5:16:14 PM

Hands down? I'll have to get back to you on that one, AFTER I've played through them to make a fair judgement. But so far, regarding exclusives of this year, only one, or two games at most appealed to me from the 360, compared to about 5 on the ps3.

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ps92117
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 2:59:21 PM
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the idea that ms could get blu ray does not make sense to me how could sony the spear head(wiki) of br let that happen, it would seem a waste of money to spend on tech development that your biggest rival could buy from u for fraction of the cost if i where sony i would be buying some lawyers by now

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:09:14 PM

according to gamesindustry.biz
toshiba and samsung are already contracted by microsoft and is currently working on blu ray periphereals for their xbox.

blu ray is owned by the blu ray disc association and sony is 1 of the supporting company including many other companies.

sony and microsoft are business partners in many cases except the video game industry.

sony's computers sells microsft's software.
sony's movies appear on xbox live.
etc

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:07:42 PM
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I got Valkyria a week ago from Gamefly, and I played it for about 3 hours that night. I went to my computer and clicked keep it immediately afterwards. This game is addicting, its a shame that it has been overlooked by many. The game looks amazing and it is so much fun.

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:10:34 PM

whats special about valkyria chronicles?

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Arvis
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:54:28 PM

I applaud you Frenchy. You, like me and everyone else who has actually played the game, are among the elite group of people who now own the best PS3 game out there. :)

-Arvis

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:23:53 PM
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Kreate what are you basing "our loss" on? I read your post about your advice and I agree with a lot of it, but that is basing everything on sales and marketing. This post is about discussing who had the better software, not which company sold more.

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:34:00 PM

my bad frenchy17.
i didnt clarify myself. i meant 'loss' in terms of sales. how many articles have we read about gears of war2 and fable 2 rocking the sales chart?

while litte big planet and resistance2 had....
'decent' sales.

i dont know why resistance2 didnt do better cuz i thought it was such a good game with rpg elements. raise the lvl cap to 99 insomniac!
dont release resistance3 on a presidential election day!

but ps3 had very good software this year and if it wasnt the price drop by microsoft ps3 would of beat the xbox.

dont throw rocks at me now lol

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smileys_007
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:37:15 PM
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i agree with frenchy17. valkyria chronicles is a very enjoyable game and has a very good story. you should also try this game kreate.

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:45:09 PM

ok i will take your guys opinion into consideration and get valkyria chronicles for new years cuz my ps3 is heavily occupied right now.

i was thinking about it already cuz it had some good scores from game informer.

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 3:53:12 PM
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That's what I thought you were saying. I do remember reading all those articles about the sales figures. Do you really think the PS3 is going to win in sales on their exclusives when there are so many more 360's out there? Most of people that have their respective systems are going to get the big exclusives, and there are more 360's out there due to the year head-start, actually a two year head start in my opinion due to Sony's slow start. There were also many articles that showed Sony's growth in sales of the multiplatform titles. Those articles showed that the gap is definitely narrowing. Anyways, my point is, like it was before, that this article was about discussing who had the better software lineup, not about who sold the most software. And Sony's lineup was definitely better this year, and will be again next year! Sony may have lost this year in terms of sales, but they sure as heck made a killing off of me! Lol

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:00:46 PM

go go frenchy17! ps3 FTW!

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:04:31 PM
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And seriously Kreate, I think you will be very pleased with Valkyria. I cannot think of anything I do not like about it. The graphics, story, and gameplay are all superb. The presentation is great as well, its cool how they let you progress through the missions and the story like turning the pages of a book.

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kreate
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:10:08 PM

maybe thats why game informer gave
it a 8.5 out of 10 xD

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:08:29 PM
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By the way guys, I just saw that you can get it or any of the other great titles mentioned above for 30% off with free shipping at blockbuster.com right now with coupon code: holidaysurprise.

They are pretty steep on their game prices, but 30% is still 30% :)

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ec0li
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:26:39 PM

30% off with free ship is a great deal for new games...nice find!

I might pick up valkyria chronicles sooner than I thought.

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Sir Shak
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:27:48 PM
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seeing that you people are RPG fans , i want to ask you a question - what are those tabs that are seen at the bottom of the screen in ff and wkc during gameplay ? i have seen them in screenshots of many JRPGs but can't figure out their purpose .

do they slow the pace or flow of the game ?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 5:59:02 PM

Are you talking about the action menus?

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ps92117
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 4:35:40 PM
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hey ben r u allowed to go into those closed theaters of sony and se cause u report on games n stuff?

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Sir Shak
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 6:15:46 PM
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you know the 5 or six tabs with stuff written on them at the bottom of the screen . in the ffXIII screenshots i think they are blue coloured .i have not seen them in any game except JRPGs . the other games only have a HUD showing health and ammo , so what are these added tabs for?

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Deadman
Tuesday, December 23, 2008 @ 7:03:49 PM
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MSG4 was the sh** because of that game im going back and playing all of the MSG titles (
I Missed them the first time cause I was broke and only 18) LBP is so awesome bought it for my 8 year old and woulndnt let her play (made her fdeel like my parents meade me feel with legend of zelda). GOWIII is enough to say the PS3 will kick a$$ in '09 I know several people who bought Playsation hardwre in the past for GODI and GOD:COO(PSP) and those same cant wait for GOWIII. Tell you what though they just released Lumines for the PSN A MUST have for ant puzzle fan PS3 WILL RULE IN '09

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kreate
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 2:25:27 PM

lol ffrulez

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ec0li
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 3:10:34 PM

@ffrulez

You are totally wrong, wrong, wrong. You have to change 360s every 5 discs because of rrod. Get with the program and L2360..pssh!

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jerocarson
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 12:54:53 AM
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lol

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Arvis
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 10:29:34 AM
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@ AluShady: Dude, almost EVERY part of Valkyria Chronicles is "the good part!" :D

I kept telling my friends as I was playing it, "Wait 'til you get to chapter 5! Chapter 8! Chapter 15!"

The game keeps raising the bar every time I turn it on.

-Arvis

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ec0li
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 3:12:54 PM

In your estimation...how many hours does it take to finish the game?

I just realized that Overworks developed this game. They're the ones who made Skies of Arcadia for Dreamcast and GCube. I loved that rpg. As soon as I finish Fable2, I'm picking this one up. Overworks and Skies of Arcadia rocked.

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Arvis
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 5:20:45 PM

Geez... it depends on how you play the game. You could probably rush through it at 40 hours or so. I think I'm over 50 hours and still have 3 chapters left.

-Arvis

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cadpig
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 12:09:12 PM
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Nope, i think game of the year should be Fallout 3

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King James
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 4:40:57 PM
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Wow look at all these comments! I go gotta town for the holidays and miss all this?! Guess u did it again ben.

KJ's 2¢: My Ps3 library has almost tripled in 08! Fixed that whole "the Ps3 has no games" nonsense. With great and sometimes superior Ps3 versions of those multi-plat games, My PS3 has been busy. I bought:
Fallout 3
LBP
Resistance 2
Deadspace
NBA Live 09
Stars Wars: TFU
Metal Gear Solid 4
GTA4
Gran Turismo 5: Prologue
Street Fighter Alpha (ps1)
Street Fighter 2 HD Remix
Echochrome
JetMoto2 (ps1)

... I'm forgetting a few. Oh and Sony let me participate in some great Beta tests for:
Home
Killzone 2 (MUST HAVE!!)
LBP

and there's still some titles that I gotta get like Valkyria and PoP.

...that was probably more than 2¢ but 2008 was the turnaround year for Sony. I've seen former Xbots eat that humble pie and cop PS3s themselves. And I've seen a lot more PS3 games be mentioned in that GotY category.
PS3 2009!!! & Happy Holidays to all. 8-)

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SubjectiveTruth
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 4:47:52 PM
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Didn't anybody else enjoy Mirror's Edge as much as I did? I LOVED that game it was so fresh. Nobody has ever done anything like that before...not that I played anyway. That should have gotten some kind of award I think, if not for pure bravery. MGS4 should have gotten GOTY in my opinion, GTA was good but nothing that new to it. I thought LBP was pretty good but I never finished it. Although MGO was the funnest thing I've ever played. Best online game. If anyone knows an online game that competes with that let me know..I can only play online when I go visit relatives in the city so let me know what to grab for my visit. Also whats MAG and infamous and whats this about GTA DLC for 360 only?

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kreate
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 5:36:05 PM

sorry nimzo. we didnt like that game as much as u did. (i only played the demo)

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Kalel243
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 5:17:22 PM
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I like my PS3 as much as my 360. I want both systems to succeed because it means more variety for us gamers in the end. However, anyone who says this year the PS3 had the better lineup needs to rethink that statement. It sounds fanboy-ish.

Hundreds of thousands of consumers say that statement is incorrect. Argue it anyway you want, sales numbers don't lie. Hey, I like MGS4 and LBP as much as anyone else. But, what are we saying? That the consumers are ignorant? They don't know what they are buying? They are uninformed? C'mon guys, let's just keep our silence, bide our time and believe the PS3 breaks out in 2009.

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kreate
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 5:34:39 PM

have u read my previous comments kalel243?
thats what i was trying to say. just wanted the ps3 propaganda to spread =)

but i dont want 360 to succeed cuz 360 has betrayed me. i am bias.

i dont mind if the next xbox succeeds along with ps3 or ps4 cuz i know microsoft will not repeat their mistakes. i also want apple to come up with a new console and join the console war.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 8:56:14 PM

Actually yeah. Most consumers of any sort of media are extremely ignorant about it. They have little to no clue what they are buying and are generally uninformed. Most of the time consumption of media is done without research or planning. You are in a store and you just buy it. (NOTE: if you are even reading these kinds of sites you fall outside of this majority, probably.) The average consumer is influenced almost entirely by advertising and price point. And maybe a few unimportant things like name recognition. Sales don't always correspond to quality. Especially when there are only about half as many people who even have the necessary equipment to play PS3 games.

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Deleted User [Moderator]
Thursday, December 25, 2008 @ 11:48:35 AM

If Apple joined. They would all be owned.

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Frenchy17
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 6:21:37 PM
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Here we go again! Kalel243, did this article say which console's lineup of games sold the most copies this year? No I read that it said to discuss which had the better lineup of software. So since sales mean everything, and obviously determine which titles are the best, that means that Pokemon games are some of the best software titles out there???? Like I said before, there are about 10 million more 360's out there, so how is it fair to judge software on sales?

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 8:57:49 PM

LOL. Wii Fit GOTY! you heard it here first.

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SubjectiveTruth
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 9:07:51 PM
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Oh dear..Frenchy lets not flip just yet, I really don't think thats what he was saying.. **Rereads** oh wait.."sales numbers don't lie. " ..huh..yeaahh..hes an ***** er I mean.. ignorant.
Yes.
Indeed.
Hm...

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shootu
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 9:42:11 PM
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@ JoshuaAdam360 this is PSX Extreme NOT GayBox Extreme!

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Thursday, December 25, 2008 @ 2:55:42 AM

please do us a favor and never post anything as needlessly stupid as that ever again.

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Deleted User [Moderator]
Thursday, December 25, 2008 @ 11:46:57 AM

Damn...Your really stupid.

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Deadman
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 9:46:40 PM
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Sales can never show a true better than this senario cause the 360 had a year to gain on the PS3. I personally feel like games like MGS4, LBP and online games like pixel junk eden and lumines are enough to pound anything the 360 has exclusive to it. But with the 360 has been out longer it has more games so if you only track sales you will never be able to tell but from what I played the PS3 topped anything the 360 had this year

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SubjectiveTruth
Wednesday, December 24, 2008 @ 10:07:56 PM
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shootu
Friday, December 26, 2008 @ 1:25:17 AM
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Dam...You really suck.

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