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Killzone 2 Will Rise Above The Haters

Anyone who is familiar with video game forums is quite aware of this recurring phenomenon: if a game either gets too much hype or too much critical acclaim from reviewers, it quickly becomes "hip to hate." All of this boils down to the elitist superiority complex of most insecure forumites (seems like everything boils down to insecurity in this world); just to prove they "know more than everyone else."

As BadAssGamer points out, this trend is already beginning for Killzone 2. Before, some of it was warranted due to the massive amount of hype for something that remained almost entirely unknown. You know, we only had a few screenshots and a very early gameplay video that almost nobody believed was the real deal, so of course, there were plenty of skeptics out there. But now, even after many sources have been able to go hands-on with both the beta testing and an early single-player build, and all of them went bonkers over both, the aforementioned elitist hate has arrived. The "I'm in my parents basement polishing my Master Chief helmet and secretly hoping KZ2 isn't as good as everyone says it is" syndrome. Now, they'll accept the graphics but because they haven't laid hands on it yet, it's "yeah, but what about the gameplay," despite everything we've told them. We've played plenty of Killzone 2. We know what to expect and what it's going to be like...and we know it's going to blow everything else out of the water and help to redefine the FPS genre. We know it, everyone who has played it knows it, and unfortunately, this is baaaaad news for all the jealous haters out there.

See, some games are just so good that even the most rabid of opposer's have to concede defeat. Titles like these don't come along very often, and event though both MGS4 and GTAIV could be considered as hate-defying games, they may not be... The Xbots will try the "yeah, like I want to play a movie" with MGS4 and the GTA haters will say the new focus on realism makes it a lesser experience. All ridiculous, but they've got to come up with something to uphold their image. Well, just warning you ahead of time, haters: KZ2 won't give you any opportunity whatsoever to maintain your skeptical criticism. Prepare yourselves now, because this is one game that will rise above any and all petty remonstrances. We promise.

Related Game(s): Killzone 2

12/27/2008 Ben Dutka

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infekt
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 10:53:35 AM
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Strong statement. And I like it.

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King James
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 10:55:04 AM
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Killzone 2 pwns all other next-gen FPS's!! Better than Halo, Resistance, CoD....and any other next-gen game u wanna throw in there. And Killzone 2 did it off of a Beta!!!

K2 FTW!! Hi Haters *waves hand*

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wasim
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 3:46:49 PM

KZ2 beta alone kills all shooters

I wont be surprised if KZ2 get 10/10 from all websites which seem very likely

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Schmitty
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 11:01:31 AM
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i no joke saw someone on youtube who said tat CoD4 MGS4 and GT4 are all terrible games but legendary and haze are good. needless to say i left him a very angry wall messahe

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SJChavez
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 12:02:41 PM

hell yea schmitty...hell ya

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pavlovic
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 11:03:03 AM
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Only a couple of months to get my hands on this bad boy...

This game will rock 2009

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N a S a H
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 11:11:54 AM
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"I'm in my parents basement polishing my Master Chief helmet and secretly hoping KZ2 isn't as good as everyone says it is" syndrome.

You've just described someone I know! lol

Anyway, this game is gonna ROCK. I don't really care what people say anyway. When all the 360 people were hating MGS4, I just told them they wouldn't be complaining if it was on 360.


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Qubex
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 11:19:50 AM
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Killzone 2 is the second coming of Christmas... PSX clan? Let's make it happen.

Q

"i Am HomE"

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GoldenShadow
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 11:59:18 AM

Whenever I see K2 in the title of a post my heart starts beating twice as fast, that is how excited I am about this game.

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Phoelix
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 11:32:33 AM
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I agree that it's excellent, but does anybody else think they should have adopted a CoD style hold-to-zoom instead of the click to zoom? Since the guns kick and sway, we need to have as much control over them as possible. The click to zoom method puts you in less control of your weapon. At least I think so.

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Qubex
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 11:43:26 AM

Yes, you are right!

Q!

"i aM hOme"

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King James
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 11:54:41 AM

A lot of beta-testers, including me, requested customizable control lay-outs on the Killzone website. This included the option to pick between hold/switch for crouch and zoom. I hope they listened.

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Wage SLAVES
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 6:22:48 AM

Cod's control scheme is Perfection and should be standardized!

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www
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 11:44:35 AM
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I believe this game should fill COD 4's shoes n if possible be better.

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wasim
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 3:47:54 PM

KZ2 kills COD4 based on just the BETA

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Qubex
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 7:23:57 PM

Wasim, right you are my friend!

Q!

"i aM hOme"

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MARNEY
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 12:08:13 PM
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Any controller customization options available? Considering the new dualshock3 sixaxis L3 & R3 buttons are much more sensitive compared to the original controller the lack of a customization option may be problematic. i had tho modify my R2 controller scheme because of this.

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Jordahn
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 12:17:31 PM
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As a non-FPS fan, I'll looking forward to Killzone 2

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Scarecrow
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 1:23:03 PM

Me too

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weeee
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 12:25:01 PM
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sexy statement. i agree.

its really funny and stupid how haters watch killzone2 videos and read info about it.

seriously just stay in your...
RED RING OF DEATH FAILBOX.

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kreate
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 12:51:26 PM

READ:this msg not for josh or any xbox lovers,
ppl who favors xbox:DO NOT REPLY TO THIS COMMENT
OR EVEN READ IT !!!!

pal lol

xbox lovers come to sites like these and watch killzone videos on youtube so they can spread propaganda and bad press becuz they are so in love with their 'fail'box like u said lol
why do they hate ps3 so much? ps3 has no faults.

xbox lovers are scared that ps3 will eventually take over. ps3 only 6 mil away from xbox according to wikipedia last updated in october.

ppl in youtube are already fighting on this issue and its getting intense.

i never played killzone 1 but i do have to agree the kz2 trailer does look really awesome. whats negative things are there to say about killzone2?

most gamers these days are shooter fans anyway!
try it out yourself before distorting the game!

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kreate
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 8:07:20 PM

fable 2 would of been much better if they replaced the dog with a hot chic =)

(never played fable2 but played fable1)
(ppl buy fable2 cuz there's nothing else to play on the xbox)

and wow! u are really late on cod4 man!
were u just waiting for the price to drop?

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kreate
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 2:21:40 AM

u have a lot of games to play.
have fun!

i bought prince of persia today and it really kicks @ss! the girl is hot and the game has some good humor to it.

only downfall is u dont get to fight hordes of enemies simulataneously like heavenly sword.

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Sir Shak
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 1:34:34 PM
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i am also not very fond of fps games but i will get this.

off topic: how can we pm someone here ?

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kreate
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 8:08:40 PM

who do u want to pm?

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K ASH
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 1:36:25 PM
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Timing,mood,interlect,commitment,patience,likes,dislikes this what generaly influences whether i like or appriciate a game or not or not so much. I played through MGS4 i liked the story but the gameplay was a let down in most cases. The game was tough & i felt like i was not playing the game write aswell.i like how haze action feels in the demo i am going buy it. Halo does not excite me at all i played a bit of 1 &2 when i thought every fps was good.did not like the guns didnt enjoy shooting stupid looking & acting aliens. I currently playing Liar and loving it. Crysis feels hollow, the action in BadCompany & Bioshock sucks but they look nice,DeadSpace is not fun when playing it in harder modes other than easy. Killzone & Area51 on ps2 are my favourate fps.Western rpg's are a waste of time,JRPg's have graet stories & artistic like the gameplay but sometimes it gets to complicated. I will always like fighting games. Thats how i feel & think about games.

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shaydey77
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 3:41:56 PM

paragraphs dude!

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souljah92
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 2:09:24 PM
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wouldnt it be awesome if you could let the song "hi haters remix" play in the background of this article :p
any who, you're totally right this game is looking awesome, perhaps may even beat cod4, sadly i was not in the beta =[ so im listening to all the posters here at psxextreme and so far i like wat im hearing =]

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King James
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 2:48:48 PM

They should play that song in the TV ads in February.

"Hi my name is Killzone./Ur name...Hater" =D

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LCF
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 3:03:36 PM
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At this point I could care less about xbots,if they want to be narrow minded and play games on a broken(its just a matter of time) outdated console,Let'em.Xbots has their hopes on the next xbox in 2 years.By then games for the PS3 will be even more amazing then this stunner that is Killzone 2.Lucky for us Sony thought ahead for it's gamers.Remeber KZ2 is still a 1st generation game,like MGS4.

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ps92117
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 3:19:45 PM
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nasah u just slapped me in the face with leather gloves so hard that my cheeks r bleeding and my ears poped do to the sonic boom , after having called u an xbot u come here n say that, sry

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 3:19:57 PM
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Now THAT's how you hype a game.

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laxpro2001
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 5:08:02 PM
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Am I considered acting as an eltiest because I though GTAIV was horrible?

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laxpro2001
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 11:56:33 PM

yea... I was over-exagerating... I felt like san andreas was much better. The whole realistic thing didn't work for me because frankly the entire idea of the game isn't realistic. What actually annoyed me most was there was no plane and no parachutes (kinda dumb but it was fun to fool around with).

If I was going to pick GOTY out of any ps3 game it would be LBP. Gets more fun everytime I play it.

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FLYING_APE
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 5:58:09 PM
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BEN'S BLOG BEN'S BLOG BEN'S BLOG BEN'S BLOG BEN'S BLOG.

resistance got 9.5 this should get 10 then.... no! i thought so.

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FLYING_APE
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 6:06:20 PM

KILLZONE 2 is going to be awesome i want it to get 95+ on metacritic, i know i may sound like a obssesed nerd but i'm a active user on gt forum and i just wanna rub it in to all those halo nerds/faboys.

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mastiffchild
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 6:50:03 PM
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I don't hold out much hope of KZ2 getting the review scores it'll deserve, much less sropping the hate of xbox fanboys. Lots of sites have got a hard on for hating this game because of a few things. The 2005 CGI trailer that the PR guy(not Sony or GG themselves, mind)intimated may be in-game footage, the length of time/money allowed to GG in development and the general bias towards the 360 that US sites have(dunno quite why guess it boils down to some patriotism and who pays more for ads in most cases)are all sticks used to beat the game in the past. Now the game has gone past the "target render" and the game seems (going by the beta at least)like the best looking console game ever the people who've been hating don't wanna look idiots so they'll nitpick the hell out of it.
Trust me-there's no chance of GT/Kotaku/1up et al giving KZ2 a fair go. If they did it would be admitting Sony were right and they were wrong so I cannot see the 10's across the board that the inferior(but still good)Halo3 got. Anyone who's ever played Halo3 and the KZ2 beta(luckily a friend of mine was in it)knows which is the better game already, I just hope the games press and their sites don't stitch this one up when it's sooo good and GG have taken such care over it to avoid what happened with Killzone(tbh I feel the PS2 wasn't a match for their ambition that time-Retribution on PSP was good though-for all those saying how GG have always failed with this franchise)on PS2. I just can't see the hate stopping myself.

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xnonsuchx
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 6:58:56 PM
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As a GALAGA kid, I still have some issues w/ using analog sticks as well as I need to for modern 3D games (I'm used to using keyboard controls for PC games)...I keep wanting to use the directional pad instead. Everything I've seen of this title really looks quite amazing, though, so I think I need to practice my analog control agility so I can get this and REALLY play it.

I have R:FoM and UTIII (cheap copies off eBay), but ended up not playing them much because I was getting frustrated with the controls (which I'm well aware is MY problem, not the games') and too impatient to spend time learning the controls better then. I've recently downloaded the WARHAWK and MGS4 demos and been using the training/tutorial portions to practice the moving and looking/aiming choreography that seemed so unnatural to me at first. Hopefully I can get decent enough to play K2 OK on its easiest level when it comes out. :-)

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Qubex
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 7:31:02 PM

Practice hard, it will be worth it... trust us on this. I was in the Killzone 2 beta and it is the best FPS I have played!

Q!

"i aM hOmE'

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Edito
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 7:24:24 PM
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Xbox fans just can't accept the fact the PS3 will have the greatest shooter ever and they don't have nothing to keep up with it... even if they wan too... KILLZONE 2 will be amazing...

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Qubex
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 7:31:54 PM

It is amazing! I'm pre-ordering my copy tomorrow, Monday - YaY!

Q!

"i aM hOMe"

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kreate
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 8:11:04 PM

but xbox fans still have halo4 and gears3. im sure they will stay in lines in the bitter cold just to play it at midnight cuz they got nothing better to do.

while ps3 fans go to HOME and pick up chicks cuz they got nothing better to do.

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Arkhon
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 3:09:24 PM

Bungie ended it with Halo 3, with one spin-off coming this year.

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orangpelupa
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 7:53:10 PM
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Too bad im sux at using gamepad for FPS games.
The only fps i can play using gamepad is only mirrors edge. And that game not too good either. . .

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Alienange
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 9:02:48 PM
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I want to believe.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 10:18:19 PM
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You guys are whacked, a gamepad with sticks is way easier and more intuitive than a keyboard.

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Xanavi23
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 10:25:52 PM

+1

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isaya85
Saturday, December 27, 2008 @ 10:42:48 PM
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Finally we have a halo killer!!

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 1:02:16 AM
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To garner some hate from you amazing folks...I'd like to announce I have a review copy of Killzone 2 in my possession. Of course the review is embargoed until Feb. 2nd, though.

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Advent Child
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 1:51:26 AM

YOU !#)(*&%@)#&%)(!#*$%_!*#%(_*!#%!(#%_!)*#$!)@(#$+!(!!!!! Can I come over?

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kreate
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 2:23:40 AM

what's up with the tease man? showoff? j/k
can i come over after advent child? =)

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Wage SLAVES
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 6:26:27 AM

Aww...me too?

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Qubex
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 8:07:41 AM

Noooooooooooo - damn man!

Q!

"i Am Home"

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xnonsuchx
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 2:26:31 AM
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I was just watching some long HD gameplay vids from GAMERSYDE. This title is fun and cool just to be able to WATCH.

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TheRaPtuRe
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 3:30:32 AM
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ben, is it true that us in europe are getting i on th 25th feb, 2 days before everyone else?
Thats what i have read...

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Sir Shak
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 9:13:33 AM
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wait , if they have it all done then why are they waiting till the end of feb to release it ?

@kreate
no one really , just wanted to know if its possible .

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ArnoldK PSXE [Administrator]
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 11:38:34 AM

There are still some tweaks left to be made.

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Fabi
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 11:15:34 AM
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@souljah - No, that would be horrible. That song is garbage.

I would like to believe, but I disagreed too much with the way the site felt about Resistance 2. I agree with the score, but only because of the online multiplayer and co-op.

If I had to rate just the single player campaign of R2, it would have been a 6 for the first half, and a 8.5 for the second half of it.



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city96
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 12:44:23 PM
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HAS any1 got a great gaming TV bcoz i need a new one.

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Joe_III
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 2:50:13 PM
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Not to hate on KZ2, but I hate when people describe games that way: "help to redefine the FPS genre"

The FPS genre is fine as it is. The only problem currently is that it's so hard for devs to get it right.

Not that redefining a genre is a bad thing, it just usually doesn't turn out right.

KZ2 being better that Halo 3 isn't that big a stretch. Halo 3 was a fairly poorly put together game if you look at it without rose-tinted glasses...

@Fabi
I hated R2's coop. Random maps, random objectives, no basis on the campaign, and way too hard for my wife and I to play alone. And that's when we've beaten other games like RFOM/Halo/R6 on their highest difficulty.

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xnonsuchx
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 12:55:46 AM

RE: HALO 3 poorly put together..

In some respects...I don't think it was THAT impressive graphically, but I think it won bigtime on 2 counts: 1) HALO/HALO 2 fans NEEDING a fix; 2) being very fun to play (for most people)

On the 2nd count (as an aside), I think that's something a LOT of people ignore...if a game is a ton of fun, it doesn't really matter how great the graphics are. It's like a sci-fi/fantasy/action movie isn't great JUST BECAUSE it had great effects (most are usually crap). Since we have HD gaming now, there SHOULD be a certain level of quality to the graphics, but gameplay should almost always overrule graphics quality/complexity in judging a game (unless graphics are actually a distraction). Take, for example, anti-PS3 fanboys slamming R2 for texture quality -- something I saw minorly mentioned in some reviews that still gave the game best or almost best rating overall.

Luckily, it looks like in K2's case, the people handling the graphics quality are their own group and not the actual gameplay coders doing double-duty and spending more time on the looks alone (like it seems happens at some developers).

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ps92117
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 3:10:15 PM
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i saw a vid of game play (single player) it realy looked outstanding defenetly good graphics and the battle field looked like a modern day stalingrad

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shaydey77
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 3:52:32 PM
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Strong words Ben! I havent an article where youve been this sure about something in a LONG time!ha i realy cant wait until June..not allowed get it until then..damn school exams!!
Counting the days...

And for the record I still think GTA4 is garbage!MGS4 definitely GotY

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:49:35 PM

Agree, Ben is usually pretty cautious. When he is sure about something you can take it to the bank. Unfortunately he seems sure that the M$ driven factions of the gaming industry are going to try to bring KZ2 down, and I'll bet they do try very hard.

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Spartan 117
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 5:48:41 PM
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Well I'm not sure why they are making KZ2 I might get it if it gets at least 9s from most magazines and websites. But It's probably gonna get 8/10

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Fabi
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 6:45:20 PM
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@Joe - I actually enjoyed the online co-op. I would have prefered if it was the actual campaign, but oh well.

And I thought it was just me. Is the co-op even possible to beat locally? Since it only lets you play 2 players. You need all three classes to suceed. I tried playing it twice with my friend, and we got killed so fast.

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Joe_III
Sunday, December 28, 2008 @ 7:01:49 PM

It doesn't seem possible to beat locally. We're actually having a discussion about that on the forums...

I pick up games for two reasons:
1. They're going to be good, or
2. It has split/shared screen coop

I rarely, rarely play games without coop, because one of the nice things about playing is that my wife plays with me.

So after having played RFOM with my wife, we were looking forward to R2, especially since it was coming up against Gears 2 again. Unfortunately, R2's coop could not possibly fail to meet my expectations any more.

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Thinker
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:40:16 PM

@Joe_III

"one of the nice things about playing is that my wife plays with me. "

You lucky b*st*rd!!! :). I wish my wife would play games with me. I have all three current consoles (PS3, 360 & Wii) and most genres of games (FPS, driving simulators, arcade racers, RPGs, action-adventures, platformers, etc), but it seems my wife believes games to not be worth the time. She'll watch crap like HGTV and childish sit-coms hour after hour in rapt attention, but games - "sigh". She doesn't even bother to watch a little while I'm playing :(.

Anyway, on-topic, although I haven't had a chance to try KZ2, Ben's promise increases my confidence in this game. (Thanks Ben).

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dveisalive
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:38:46 AM
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Ill admit that Killzone 1 was garbadge but Killzone 2 will be game of the year candidate for 09. This game is going to be huge! I see it selling like 15-20 million copies no doubt!

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Spartan 117
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 3:13:39 PM
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I doubt I'll get KZ2 unless it gets 9s from most magazines but it'll probably get around an 8. The only reason it's getting so much hype is because it was announced in 2005 so we've had to wait for it for three and a half years. Besides there are a lot of other good games coming out then like Halo Wars or Resistance Retribution.

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shaydey77
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 3:40:49 PM

Why would you post the same comment twice?Stop wasting peoples time.Thank You.

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SubjectiveTruth
Saturday, January 03, 2009 @ 8:25:32 PM

If they put a green helmet on the main character and named it a homonym for "heylo" you would be on a site with "ThreeSixty" in its URL and you'd be freaking out in excitement and anticipation..Comon' it looks great, why does that bug you?
...Plus Halo was like a 5/10 if you ask me..;)

PS: I really hope your right Ben. People were expecting alot more from Killzone 1 if I remember right..But still it was the best FPS on PS2.

PPS: I swear to god if you use that "I have all three consoles" defense..

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NeotericDope
Saturday, January 03, 2009 @ 11:38:08 PM
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I have been reading from this site for quite a while now and I must say whoever the writers are you are really preachy. (It's not an insult so don't take it as such) I mean I enjoy reading about what's going on with the PS3, but as you're trying to defend it you're also forcing it on people. I own all the consoles and I hate when people freak out about talking bad about a certain one. It's pathetic really. On Killzone 2 it is its own game. Why is anyone comparing it to Halo 3? It comes out over a year since Halo 3 was released and is completely different. Halo 3 was good and Killzone 2 should be great. I don't personally care about the whole battle for exclusives and all that idiocy. Enjoy them all. It's gaming we should all revel in each system greatness. Minus the Wii for releasing all those horrible games that hold no weight. I mean come on how many cooking games do you need? Or wack sports games? Anyways I am anticipating Killzone 2, for sure.

Last edited by NeotericDope on 1/3/2009 11:39:40 PM

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