Another Anti-PS3 Argument Dies
The arguments leveled against Sony's PlayStation 3 when it first launched in late 2006 were both numerous and legitimate. Lack of software - a common refrain at the start of every new generation - led the charge, but the price tag concern wasn't too far behind.
Then, not much later, we started to see the unfortunate trend of piss-poor 360-to-PS3 ports. The reason for this was simple: developers weren't used to the PS3's complex new architecture and in stark contrast, they had a firm grasp of the year-old Xbox 360. Therefore, we end up with inferior PS3 versions of games like The Orange Box and F.E.A.R., among others. It wasn't long before this caught on and the mainstream buying public would issue two arguments- 1. the PS3 has no games (which we've already laid to rest), and 2. the PS3 version is always worse than the 360 version. Yep, it's time to drop the hammer on that latter argument, too, because it hasn't been true for most of 2008 and won't be true ever again in the future. In fact, many third-party developers are using the PS3 as the lead platform in the software production process, and if they're not, they're at least developing a project simultaneously for the PS3 and 360. We see examples of this at every turn, and for the biggest multi-platform releases of 2008, it's clear that things have changed.
Grand Theft Auto IV was basically identical on both the PS3 and 360 (don't listen to the Xbots who say the PS3 version is inferior; we've seen and played both and it's not true), and the same goes for games like Devil May Cry 4, Soul Calibur IV, Rock Band 2, Guitar Hero: World Tour, Call of Duty: World at War, Fallout 3, Mirror's Edge, Need for Speed Undercover, Far Cry 2, etc. There may be small differences in certain cases, but they're hardly the significant - and sometimes crippling - differences from the past, and sometimes, the PS3 version is actually better. And as time goes on, developers will become more and more comfortable with the PS3 hardware, and it's quite likely that the 360 versions of games will begin to bow to the PS3 versions. At the very least, the PS3 exclusives will kick the crap out of the 360 exclusives...well, it's a guarantee for 2009, at least. Now, there may be a few lingering instances of the PS3 version of a multiplat failing to pass muster - I'm sure everyone can list an example or two in the second half of 2008 - but the point is that it's most certainly dying out, if it's not entirely dead already.
So while there are still arguments against the PS3, as there are for any console, this one particular argument is now on its deathbed, if it hasn't flatlined already. PS3 versions of multiplatform games are almost never significantly inferior anymore, and that's that. You can still complain about the price, the debatable lacking in PlayStation Home, or whatever, but "PS3 has no games" and "PS3 versions of multiplats are always worse" are two statements that are, as of now, 100% false.
12/29/2008 Ben Dutka
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kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:49:04 PM
but ppl seem to look at the amount of games xbox has for 3 years. and the amount of games ps3 has for 2 years. than compare. idiots and haters.
Scarecrow
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 2:49:47 PM
amillie
Saturday, January 03, 2009 @ 11:21:44 AM
GTA 5 is going to be PS3 exclusive because GTA 4 was toned down both in size and gameplay to fit onto a DVD disk and thus wasn't as spectacular as it could have been.
Xbox 360 fanboys thought that their console was getting some special love from Rockstar because of the 'episodes' pack, but what they don't know is that these 'episodes' will cost a price, which, as of yet is unknown, at least to the public and the episodes are just bits cut out of the original game.
Rockstar are QUIDS IN with GTA 4. It could of all fit on the Blu Ray disk but they signed the deal with M$ so that they were exclusive to M$. M$ paid $50 million for them.
Rockstar truely, royally screwed Microsoft out of that money because it's just bits cut out of the game.
And may i also add; DVD is showing its age now Blu Ray has surfaced.
And before you think i'm a Ps3 fanboy, i'm not. I actually own an Xbox 360. I do hope to purchase a PS3 for the simple facts;
1) built in Blu Ray player and plays alot more files e.g various AVI encoded files. 360 plays SOME but not all, whereas the PS3 seems to have alot more codecs built into the software.
2) FREE INTERNET!!! (The 360's Live really isn't that much better to make me want to spend £40 ($80) a year on).
3) Most of my friends are now moving from Xbox 360's to PS3's, since the PS3 lineup is looking fantastic and the 360's is a little pale in comparison.
Mornelithe
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:00:52 PM
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King James
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:06:05 PM
crapreviews
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:04:51 PM
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kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:50:54 PM
MetalHead09
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 3:19:25 PM
crapreviews
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:07:38 PM
crapreviews
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:07:08 PM
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kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:53:46 PM
eLLeJuss
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 6:36:34 PM
MirrorSoul
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:59:58 PM
FLYING_APE
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:31:56 PM
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King James
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:37:23 PM
kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:54:46 PM
Scarecrow
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 2:51:58 PM
FLYING_APE
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:51:39 PM
I'M A PLAYSTATION FANBOY but i do own an xbox aswell.
I read crap like this all the time on gt forums all the time. i know no one will miss my comments and i don't have to be here.
just ignore me and i will go away but work is as boring as f**k sometimes
BooyakaBerger
Sunday, January 04, 2009 @ 6:23:51 PM
id also like to note the dood didnt even say anything about the ps3... just the article... so no fanboy fingers can be pointed really
whooka
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:49:04 PM
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Deleted User
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 1:50:15 PM
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Jordahn
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 2:06:59 PM
Deleted User
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 2:17:03 PM
King James
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:45:09 PM
FLYING_APE
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 5:02:27 PM
Fane1024
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 5:26:36 PM
GamerKid123
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:40:55 AM
MadPowerBomber
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 11:45:48 PM
Dude, Halo 2 was ugly. Sure it looked shiny and everything, but the animation for the game was horrible. I don't care how "pretty" your graphics look on whatever console you play, if your characters look like something that came out of Jim Hensen's studio, the game is a visual let down. Halo 2 was a poorly written and horribly animated game from the ground up. Shiny armor has nothing on the animated facial expressions from a game like Tekken 5. Sorry. Suspension of disbelief and all that.
kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 2:00:44 PM
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what more can xbox360 do? according to analyst, the next xbox is coming out by 2010. which means the 360 is already maxing out the hardware capability.
i wonder why its ok for xbox ppl to talk crap but wrong for ps3 ppl to talk crap. do ppl expect to go xbox fan sites and see them praise the ps3?
Deleted User
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 2:05:48 PM
They are not maxing out the hardware yet. But even if thats true who really cares. I mean if the 360s graphics arnt good enough for you I feel pity.
Im just wandering if the next one will use disks, bluray, or DVD. What do you guys think?
Bugzbunny109
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 2:56:49 PM
MetalHead09
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 3:31:50 PM
Bugzbunny109
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:02:15 AM
MetalHead09
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:26:44 AM
somethingrandom
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 1:01:57 AM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 2:54:48 PM
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I'm pretty sick of your double standard of "I'm not a Xbox fanboy, really!" and then suffering your INANE comments whenever the 360 is brought into question. Furthermore, that's not even the point of this article; it's PS3-focused.
Last warning.
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kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 3:52:47 PM
ps92117
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:08:24 PM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:42:21 PM
I've been many a place on the internet. But never have I been closer to pure stupidity then when I have read YouTube comments. What is it about that site that inspires such utter morons to type out some inane response?
kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 10:31:16 PM
but i dont want to sit here on a ps3 fan site and get my @ss owned by any xbox lovers.
u can sit there and watch while i own the xbox lovers idotic claims about their 'indestructable' xbox360 which supposedly has the best graphics in the entire planet.
but since i dont want to be banned from this site. i will swallow my pride and read their comments without going into any wars.
its ok if xbox lovers bash us but its wrong if we bash them?
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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:46:38 AM
I simply hate the fact that people actually treat video games like it's a war. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE FUN. Why do we have dissention among our own ranks? We're all gamers we all enjoy spending our free-time in a similar matter. Why do people care what system sells more? Why do people feel the need to spread hate on those that didn't buy a certain game? I don't get it.
Am I a PlayStation fan? yes. I mean I paid $600 dollars for a PS3 instead of half that for a 360, it's not like I flipped a coin. I love my PS3 to an extreme (IT'S A PUN!). But I'm not stupid it's consumer electronic not Jesus Christ. I understand it's pros and I understand it's cons. If I could afford to do nothing other than play games I'd have a 360 too. I made a rational decision to buy a PS3 as opposed to a 360. I don't see the point in spending 200+ dollars on a product that is almost guaranteed to break within 3 years. But if someone wants to more power to them. I simply hate... unjust hate. (read that last sentence and try to make sense of it I dare you). I don't see any reason to be a loyal drone to ANY corporation. They exist for the sole purpose to take your money.
As far as I can tell I'm fair and state the facts as I see them. I see the pros and cons of both Xbox and PlayStation. In the end opinions tend to stear towards the pro playstation side (maybe that's why I bought it?). If that makes me a fanboy then I guess that particular word's definition is so far gone that we need to start using a new one. How about guava? I like that word. It's funny sounding. I don't think we get to use it nearly enough.
"Fanboy is a term used to describe any individual who is devoted to a single subject in an emotional or fanatical manner, or to a single point of view within that subject, often to the point where it is considered an obsession." (wikipedia's definition)
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:05:45 AM
without us 'fanboys' or 'guavas', yr site is just another site with 1 xbox guy with multiple accounts commenting against u guys.
indirectly, this site has became a fansite. and u guys are also 'guavas' of the ps3. thats why u guys chose to follow up on the ps3 news than the xbox news.
if u guys are not 'bias', than there should be equal amount of news about the ps3 as well as the xbox. also there is no such thing as
'i am unbias'. everyone is bias to a certain extent.
when i mention 'fanboy' u should know what i am talking about. we dont need a wikipedia version.
and the thing about u not understanding why ppl
"treat video games like it's a war"
thats like saying u dont understand why countries go to war with each other. there always has been, currently warring, and we will always war between consoles. its inevitable. u should know that.
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kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:20:02 AM
was the last comment u posted in this article.
i know u are sitting in front of yr computer reading my comments 2,3, and a 4x over. and dont give me no excuse that u got distracted by someone(maybe gf) or something.
but becuz u are replying so late in what u call a 'debate' i am going to bed. good nights.
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:56:23 AM
somethingrandom
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 1:09:34 AM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 8:51:28 PM
But no the government does provide vital services like police, fire departments, military, water, roads, etc. However the only things corporations exist to do is make money. That is their sole purpose in life. Occassionally they'll make a donation to charity but that's just to make you like them and then buy their products. And anything they create or invent was only made to get your money. Anything that helps the world is simply incedental.
xtreme
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 3:03:39 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 3:09:46 PM
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Deleted User
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:05:03 PM
kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 10:25:03 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:30:59 AM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:49:42 PM
What the flying f*** does history have to do with this? If we learned anything from the PS3's pre-launch and first year it's that Sony took their glorious history and pissed all over it. They were arogant, thought they were untouchable. They said "next gen starts when we say it does" "rumble is a last gen feature" etc. The PS3 didn't start to turn itself around until Sony finally tucked its tale between its legs and started to WORK for fan support. Their history is just that. History. Their present is the only thing that matters. They are in a decent position to control the latter half of this market cycle. (what with the more reliable hardware and better future proofing.) But it won't be history that determines if they succeed it will be the decisions they make TODAY.
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kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 6:30:06 PM
sony at least tries hard to meet the demands of the fans. sony didnt know fans were going to be upset about the rumble issue. so when we complained, they listened.
but what about microsoft? according to lawsuit files and ex-micro employees, stated and confirmed that microsoft knew about their xbox flaws even before it was launched. but micro launched the system anyway so fans can suffer, and micro can make their millions on top of their billions they already have.
so who is better as far as arrogance and meeting fan's demands?
has microosft fixed the issue? will microsoft ever going to fix the issue?
shadow is right about sony. but i am also right about microsoft.
Deleted User
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:00:39 PM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 5:45:35 AM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 5:49:26 PM
somethingrandom
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 1:12:36 AM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 8:56:12 PM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Thursday, January 01, 2009 @ 6:19:20 AM
smileys_007
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 3:38:20 PM
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gunnar2906
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 3:38:57 PM
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Xanavi23
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 3:53:04 PM
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Halo 3 although having a great story, game mode too is BARELY step-up from Halo 2...bear in mind i owned Xbox1 and Halo 2 and loved the game...so 3 was a dud largely.
M$ wanted to be cheap and build a corresponding cheap system...and it shows everytime, even to Xbox owners who aren't brainwashed like you or Crapping Ape. You'lll never get the picture and all you can do is spew lies to make yourself feel better.
I know your kind because a couple years ago i used to enjoy being the best/worst kind of Hater fit to attend the Playa Haters ball so i know how your pretty little heads work my man. Lies of a brainwashed gentleman.
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:23:36 PM
FLYING_APE
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:57:12 PM
Xanavi23
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 5:08:53 PM
I will genuinely apologize though, i shouldn't have grouped you with the other fanboy just for making one comment. Don't know you well enough. Im sorry. PS: You can call me a Douche bag or whatever the like, i've got much bigger fish to fry.
PSS. World ends with me..."Now you must excuse me, i got to get home and put some water in BuckNastys Moms Water bowl..."
Hahahaha, seriously best skit on the show.
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Deleted User
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:03:10 PM
Xanavi23
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:06:42 PM
As for your threat, whether you mean with Internet flaming, that's pathetic. If you would hack me, or otherwise extend your threat to real life that would be even more pathetic.
"Tear me a new asshole"...Lol, whatever man, ultimitely its just video gaming, get over it.
Secondly, the lines in quotes have nothing to do with you. I was referening Chappelles, Playa haters ball quotes because not many appreciate how hilarious that skit was.
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Deleted User
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:56:27 PM
fallingdove
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:32:59 PM
I just want exclusives to blow everything else out of the water.
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:39:56 PM
Joe_III
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:40:21 PM
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Plus, at this point most consumers are already trained to default to buying the 360 version. I know I rarely even check to see which one is going to be "better".
And -- I have to say this, not threadjacking -- the 360 controller is way better.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:46:37 PM
And no.....it's not. ;)
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SHADOW [Moderator]
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 4:57:57 PM
FLYING_APE
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 5:05:30 PM
ec0li
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:51:36 PM
The controllers are a toss up for me. I like tha analog sticks for 360 better but I like the PS3'ss dpad better. I find the PS3's analog sticks a little too loose specifically for shooters and makes it harder to aim. The 360's dpads are unresponsive specifically for fighting games.
MetalHead09
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:35:11 AM
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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 5:51:03 PM
dveisalive
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 5:08:21 PM
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dveisalive
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 5:13:00 PM
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MetalHead09
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:39:53 AM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:49:15 AM
The games they produced sold well but nothing spectacular. They didn't make MGS4 so they're not profiting much from it. Resistance 2 didn't sell as well as they hoped (and I personally think it's less than great). LittleBigPlanet didn't attract new customers the way Sony had hoped.
They had a decent year.
Xanavi23
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 9:22:07 AM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 5:58:36 PM
I was a huge fan of R:FoM multiplayer. Played for more than six months. I was really hoping for a new take on the same mechanics, unfortunately Insomniac decided to make the game similar to Socom or Rainbow Six with the way you get new weapons. I just don't think that the whole: die, get any weapon you want, repeat; thing works for Resistance. I would have preferred them to keep the old Unreal-style system or made the competitive class based like the co-op or like Team Fortress.
Xanavi23
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 4:31:51 PM
It did get opened up vastly, though i find Insomniac goes way more into detail for the story by way of Intel. I love the intel readings, but for most players they'll wanna SEE the story as it is still a game.
I'll have to see Online before i can talk as like you, i LOVED R1 resistances online, the way it felt and moved and everything else about it truth be told.
TEG3SH
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 5:57:16 PM
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IT'S A PS3 DEDICATED SIE
but i guess i have a theory this site is blue ,and flies love their blue ,so thats why the hang around here, come closer x-bots and u will burn bit*ches.
@ the worlds end Chappelle rules
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Deleted User
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 8:54:41 PM
aaronisbla
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 10:45:56 PM
kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 10:51:42 PM
Dante399
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 6:49:08 PM
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on another issue (idea for a new topic)
I'm just wondering if Microsoft did the same with their Xbox720....I mean release it early even with weak machine power or whatsoever problem that may be...will PS4 and its fans suffer the same as they did with PS3(like weak ports and whatnot)? Or Sony has learned their lesson and they already have a plan for the future?
SHADOW [Moderator]
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:40:41 PM
Sony took a major risk with the cell. Something nobody had ever developed for before. It takes everything a person knows about programming and turns it on its side.
And Companies thought that they could just throw a game out on this new platform and expect good results.
Those developers however have learned how to make games work with the cell now though. And it seems like everyday they're starting to do wonders with the new technology. Companies are also wising up and have realized that there is no good way quickly and successfully porting a game to PS3.
I hope that Sony hasn't "learned its lesson" they took a risk. And while the risk undoubtedly hurt them in the short term its looking more and more like the PS3 is designed for the long haul and the 360 is going to need a severe makeover, if not a successor, relatively soon.
kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 10:41:42 PM
GamerKid123
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:55:23 AM
Dante399
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 3:35:34 PM
Sounds logical to me :)
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 6:03:20 PM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 6:56:06 PM
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Complaining about people who don't acutally exist in this thread is thread jacking spam just the same as someone being an annoying xbox fanboy. And if you absolutely must post off topic nonsence about how there are so many xbots here (1? maybe?) is it too much to ask for at least proper grammar? Getting extremely defensive every time a pro xbox comment pops up is actually more annoying then the fanboys. Let's pride ourselves in not stooping to their level. Unless something absolutely needs this kind of response (which so far, nothing here has) be the bigger man and ignore it. Or else we all look just as biased as anyone else.
LCF
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 8:01:49 PM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:24:53 PM
ec0li
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:55:33 PM
LCF
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 10:31:52 PM
kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 10:45:25 PM
why is xboxnerds always outdated?
why do we have so many pro ps3 news here and nothing that glorifies the xbox?
tell us shadow. what is yr true stand?
i really thought this was a site for ps3. am i wrong?
and since u complain about us, can we complain about u?
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Xanavi23
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 11:03:25 PM
Like i said Shadow, i don't beleive you're a fanboy..this is just a general suggestion and observation.
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:58:59 AM
Don't be afraid to disagree with me. I love a fun debate. I've probably gotten more down-votes on my posts than just about anyone who comes here regularly. Go ahead and look I've never deleted or banned anyone for disagreeing with me, our differences are what makes this a fun community to be a part of.
I have an opinion and I'm going to share it. And for one reason or another it tends to go against the majority's view, maybe I'm a rebel (Viva La Resistance). People tend to dislike that. I get called an asshole to my face on at least a weekly basis. It happens.
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kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:18:56 AM
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:48:00 AM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:43:10 AM
Xanavi23
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 9:25:33 AM
Learn some manners kid.
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kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:38:43 PM
i never aggravated shadow or challenged him on a 'debate'. shadow is the one challenged me.
and i am only debating. what insults have i made? he insulted himself and i am only agreeing with him.
i liked shadow, until he started to protect josh. shadow is riding the middle of the fence. he doesnt seem to be on our side (ps3 fans) and he lets josh bash us. but when we bash josh, shadow seems to have issues with us.
again, i dont know who u are (probably another fake account of josh) but if i have insulted u, than go ahead and insult me back for whatever the hell i said to u.
for whatever reason, i went ahead and made some fake accounts just to see what happens. im sure shadow would not believe me anyways cuz he doesnt believe josh has multiple accounts, so who cares?
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:41:35 PM
Deleted User
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:03:51 PM
Xanavi23
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:28:20 PM
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 3:13:05 PM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 6:47:54 PM
I'm now hated because I defended someone? That I have to admit, even for me, is a new one. Also you are dissing me for not going along with your baseless accusations? You have now claimed that 2 people on this site are now just pretend names come up with by your enemy. What proof do you have? You know other than the fact that they hold a different opinion than you? None of these IPs match, none of them even use the same sentence structure!
Let's play this little game for minute then. Maybe I'm JoshAdam360 in disguise! I mean my first name is Josh, I have a brother named Adam, and there are TONS of proxy services based out of Las Vegas, NV. You're making an absolute fool out of yourself. I hope you can eventually learn to grow up. You seem pretty knowelegable (definiton of irony: misspelling knowledgable... twice) on a lot of different subjects, then you go and say something absolutely dumb. I don't get it.
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 7:56:29 PM
but u also dont have proof whether josh has multiple accounts or not. i wont say he has multiple accounts but u cant say he doesnt either.
making multiple accounts is extremely easy.
xbox lovers know me very well on youtube, and they were caught with multiple accounts. of course each account used different way of typing, used different words, different attitudes.
i am sorry that i have insulted u shadow. i like yr thoughts. yr a great guy, and u are also very knowledgable. u know more than me.
i dont know u as much as the other ppl here.
u have many fans here. and i dont want to fight hordes of ps3 fans that are on yr side. but i dont mind fighting against the hordes of xbox fans.
it seems everyone has mixed feelings here. but i havent got any warnings from u or the admins. i am receiving that as me being within 'limits' of the way i post stuff.
if u disagree with me in the future. i promise i wont insult u or be a smart@ss. again i sincerely apologize for my words. i hope things will cool off between me and u becuz i am definately willing to do that.
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Xanavi23
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 10:03:54 PM
SHADOW [Moderator]
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 12:44:23 AM
kreate
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 10:57:40 AM
LCF
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 7:57:41 PM
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SHADOW [Moderator]
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:32:58 PM
I think you were talking about PCs getting cell like chips and the undoing of GPUs. Right?
I think that eventually there has to be a massive shift in the way PCs function. Maybe this new all in one cell chip is it, maybe not. But there is going to be a ton of resistance. It's such a radical shift. I think before that major switch, we might see some hybrid machines that allow old programs and such to work. After there is enough software to support such a new architechture then we can see a true market shift.
I don't think Microsoft will be at the helm if this happens though it'll have to be a new company MS is extremely scared of taking major risks, they'll resist switching to these all-in-one chips with everything they've got.
LCF
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 10:22:11 PM
kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 11:08:27 PM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:40:17 AM
kreate
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Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 8:52:16 PM
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The reason I acted like this lately is how I was attacked..Instead of ignoring the Xbox attacks I joined..
I realize now that I was becoming what I used to hate..Sorry I got caught up. I used to be a huge Sony person..I just like to read up on a old friend from time to time.
Really isn't anything I can say..You guys forgive me?
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:16:59 PM
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Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:36:23 PM
kreate
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 10:48:09 PM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:05:52 PM
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:45:53 PM
QuasarSquirrel
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:35:55 PM
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Back to topic. There are several multiplat title's I'm already planning to get for the PS3: Rage and FFXIII for sure. Other than that, I'll try to pick whichever one seems to perform better. Though for multiplayer I would still lean to the 360 because I have 81+ friends from the gaming community I joined on there.
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Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:43:18 PM
LCF
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:49:56 PM
LCF
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 11:42:35 PM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:39:20 AM
orangpelupa
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 9:39:56 PM
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GTA IV in PS3 and X360 does not have the same Image Quality.
in motion, both look the same, but for still image quality, the X360 is a bit better. only a bit. its hardly noticable on casual gamer or console gamer when playing GTA IV, everything is in motion, make it less noticable.
but for pc gamer who played the X360 and PS3 version will see this "Small difference".
i also already see GTA IV on PC, its a lot better than the console version but there too many rendering bugs and NO ANTI ALIASING. argh...
in console version, GTA IV have AA.
game ports will never be the same on every platform, but developers really struggling to make the game look identical on all platform. so the difference is not noticable by "the majority of gamer" >_<
@LCF
i still love GPU ;)
i personally dislilke games that CPU intensive. like GTA IV, the physics all calculated by CPU. and its really hard for my slow intel E2140 (dual core) processor....
my pc can run crysis but cant get decent, stable fps on GTA IV....
hmm, maybe this is the reason GTA IV in ps3 and x360 look so similar. both have multithreading processor. (6 thread? or is it 7?)
LCF
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 10:07:57 PM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:59:50 AM
LCF
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 11:46:07 PM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:00:58 AM
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:28:44 AM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 3:06:38 AM
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:40:00 PM
Spartan 117
Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 11:47:55 PM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:05:37 AM
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:35:15 AM
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:37:26 AM
gears is good. but too short.
xbox never outsold the ps3.
u can argue it outsold for 1 month. or it outsold for 1 week. but yearly average shows us that xbox is getting owned.
why are u in denial?
Bugzbunny109
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:48:57 AM
@Spartan- Either something is wrong with you or you have been living in a cave for the past several months and just miraculously came out; the ps3 has a plethora of enjoyable or "good games" on store shelves. For the record, I hope you have been living in a cave for the past few months :)
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:03:53 AM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:13:11 AM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:30:54 AM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 3:13:37 AM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 6:22:58 PM
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:34:10 AM
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5 reasons why halo and gears is popular:
1.there's nothing else to play on the 360
2.xbox is a cheap system that dies out so its good to play for the moment being.
3.microsoft was successful with their propoganda schemes
4.poor class of america who can't afford a gaming pc(for halo + gears) or a ps3
5.people who are stuck with old technology.
tv are square-shape, cant afford hi-def,
planning to watch DVD for rest of their life.
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:37:30 AM
LCF
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 3:27:24 AM
ec0li
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 5:48:15 AM
kreate
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 12:45:04 PM
i clearly posted
'this comment is just for fun'
and yet, u guys take this post so seriously. if u think i am taking things too seriously and u dont, than why are u replying in such manners?
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 6:17:58 PM
King James
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 2:27:57 AM
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Qubex
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 3:38:47 AM
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I would be a dictator though, if it were me!
Q!
"i aM hOme"
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 6:00:28 AM
(I'm not 100% sure about the specifics I wrote but that's the way I understand it) :)
SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 6:15:59 PM
I'm just stating facts the way that I see them, and it's true. Many 360 multiplats have slightly better textures and longer draw distances. All I said is that, that is still a valid, though dumb, argument.
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LCF
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 4:25:29 PM
FFXIII will show how hard S-E has been suxing microsoft's wee-wee for money.If the textures look the same on both systems,we'll know that the PS3 ver.has been downgraded.
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 6:57:28 AM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 7:24:39 AM
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Wage SLAVES
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 6:24:00 AM
daus26
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 7:32:59 AM
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Think about it, the ps3 is not yet maxed. I believe I havent heard bout the same thing for the 360.
Ps3 is more future proof n more reliable than the 360 - Fact.
360 exclusives can be handled on the ps3, not completely true vice versa.
I also believe the 360 is holding back on the quality of games for this gen. For ex, if 360 supported blu-ray, guitar hero/rock band would hve a lot more songs built in than they do now. But to keep things fair, they got to keep the contents down.
This is why I dont like multiplatforms. Instead of making it its best, they gotta standardize it for all the systems to be fair. FF13 better not be limited in quality because they gotta be fair with the 360 version. I expect the ps3 version to be superior.
mastiffchild
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 9:49:59 AM
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Certainly SE won't want to upset MS and stop the lovely big cheques currently landing on their mat. Will be interesting to see how good FF13 Vs is mind you. Also SE have their bread buttered with the great money they make on handhelds so to expect FF13 to be better on PS3 is, I fear, a lost cause.
Back on topic. Good article Ben. The MO for better Multi's for all should now be plain-you lead on PS3 then port to 360. It's both easier that way AND gets the best aggregate results for both sets of gamers. Also this years, and those are only the announced games,PS3 exclusive line up knocks any other consoles into touch(esp considering most good 360 games will be on PS3 too-'cept anything Halo based)to further stop the daft "PS3 has no games" argument. This should have ended way back but you underline it well. What will folk moan about when/if the price cut comes? Home, prolly.
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 9:50:50 AM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 11:19:16 AM
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Lordnicon
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 1:18:39 PM
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If you are making an argument to debunk an anti ps3 argument then you have to provide reasonable evidence to support your statements. You are preaching to the choir my friend. Chances are, we already agree with you. Simply stating that x,y and z games are pretty much the same on both consoles doesnt allow any of us who have not played both to grasp the truth in such a statement.
From screen shots we can most likely all agree that the gap is not very significant anymore, but i cannot bring myself to say that the ps3 has the edge hands down (and I am all about ps3 this gen). We may assume that ps3 will potentially edge out the 360. For this perhaps, technical reasons could provide meat to your argument. But like i stated before you are preaching to the choir. So what is it exactly that we are accomplishing by publishing this?
The best answer is not a bad one, and that is that is sparks a dialogue between subscribers to flesh out what you have left relatively bare. So i cant say that this was any sort of waste of time but I will say that as a stand alone article in such a forum, it was just a little lacking. Just my two cents.
ps92117
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 8:45:29 PM
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Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 9:12:46 PM
AceTatsujin
Tuesday, December 30, 2008 @ 9:45:51 PM
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Thanks for reading.
And Ben, please make another article about the Blu-ray part. Microsoft keeps saying that Blu-ray is going no where and its not going to sell anything and won't kill the DVD and down-streaming or streaming is the new way .. lmao, I wonder how they can tell the future specifically to a well-known hardware company thats been in years in service (Sony). So please make an article on that, and kill that stupid ass rumor.
cadpig
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 12:15:26 AM
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Dude, i own both systems. Right now they are both too similar in performance to crown a winner. I'm still waiting for all of this untapped power the Ps3 has.
The jury is still out on the whole Blu-ray issue.
jedigamer79
Wednesday, December 31, 2008 @ 8:13:38 AM
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needing replaced and here that in 2010 microsoft is coming out with a xbox 720
or phoenix or whatever but the point is when microsoft replaces the 360 and
support for that system then they come to the market with the 720 at 400 to 600
dollars and now the ps3 is in position to take the market back from microsoft.
microsoft systems have a very short shelf life so i think in 2012 microsoft will
stop making gaming systems. the ps3 is great for the money i payed 600 and never regretted it. i would never buy a 360 because of the failure rate. plus 360 is made with current technology not next gen technology. my ps3 is awesome. all my friends had numerious rrod's and finally said the hell with it and bought a ps3 and rave about it and wish they would have bought one sooner and how they wasted money buying a 360. because when you buy a 360 you're pretty much throwing money away. my brother has a launch 360 and its on its last legs. the 360 is lous as hell
creepypete
Saturday, January 03, 2009 @ 1:22:18 PM
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Now, if it's the other way around, then it's a different story. So if people don't start buying these (expensive to make) games on the PS3 as opposed to the 360 look for the devs to spend even less time on the PS3. The economy is going to hurt the PS3 devs more than any other console, and that I will bet my left nut on.
creepypete
Saturday, January 03, 2009 @ 1:28:46 PM
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Even MS puts out all those dopey jrpg type games for Europe and Japan even though the US hates those games. Why?.... because the 360 is about making ALL gamers that like ALL genres happy. Personally, without all 3 consoles I couldn't survive, but my PS3 is not my "go to" console this gen, and probably never will be.
phade2blaq
Saturday, January 03, 2009 @ 5:07:01 PM
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First up I don't care how many bells and whistles Sony out into the PS3 the fact remains unless the console has some kick ass games it ain't gonna sell.
The Wii sits atop the video game empire and it doesn't have a lot of fancy features nor does it have any kick as games in house or exclusives. Last time I checked, the PS3 was in distant 3rd place in sales !
Sony shot themselves in the foot with the high price tag especially when it debuted on the heels of our current economic situation.
The blu-ray drive was not necessary as there weren't an installed base of hdtv's. The few people who do own hdtv won't bump up sales.
Then there's the many variations of PS3's ! People were't sure which models played PS2 games and which ones didn't. Sony has more varitations of the PS3 than Baskin-Robbins has ice cream flavors.
They kept potential buyers out of the loop in terms of what a PS2 would or wouldn't do or what features it had or didn't have ! Peoplew ere confused !
Recently Sony announced they've cyt production costs by 35% yet the PS3 is still too pricey for most average gamers.
I hope it doesn't come true but as it stands now, the PS3 is a bust !
Sony should have laid the ground work for Home during the PS2's popularity since MS had doen just that with the original xbox. But no, they delayed and delayed and kept people waiting.
phade2blaq
Saturday, January 03, 2009 @ 5:07:09 PM
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First up I don't care how many bells and whistles Sony out into the PS3 the fact remains unless the console has some kick ass games it ain't gonna sell.
The Wii sits atop the video game empire and it doesn't have a lot of fancy features nor does it have any kick as games in house or exclusives. Last time I checked, the PS3 was in distant 3rd place in sales !
Sony shot themselves in the foot with the high price tag especially when it debuted on the heels of our current economic situation.
The blu-ray drive was not necessary as there weren't an installed base of hdtv's. The few people who do own hdtv won't bump up sales.
Then there's the many variations of PS3's ! People were't sure which models played PS2 games and which ones didn't. Sony has more varitations of the PS3 than Baskin-Robbins has ice cream flavors.
They kept potential buyers out of the loop in terms of what a PS2 would or wouldn't do or what features it had or didn't have ! Peoplew ere confused !
Recently Sony announced they've cyt production costs by 35% yet the PS3 is still too pricey for most average gamers.
I hope it doesn't come true but as it stands now, the PS3 is a bust !
Sony should have laid the ground work for Home during the PS2's popularity since MS had doen just that with the original xbox. But no, they delayed and delayed and kept people waiting.
phade2blaq
Saturday, January 03, 2009 @ 5:07:23 PM
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First up I don't care how many bells and whistles Sony out into the PS3 the fact remains unless the console has some kick ass games it ain't gonna sell.
The Wii sits atop the video game empire and it doesn't have a lot of fancy features nor does it have any kick as games in house or exclusives. Last time I checked, the PS3 was in distant 3rd place in sales !
Sony shot themselves in the foot with the high price tag especially when it debuted on the heels of our current economic situation.
The blu-ray drive was not necessary as there weren't an installed base of hdtv's. The few people who do own hdtv won't bump up sales.
Then there's the many variations of PS3's ! People were't sure which models played PS2 games and which ones didn't. Sony has more varitations of the PS3 than Baskin-Robbins has ice cream flavors.
They kept potential buyers out of the loop in terms of what a PS2 would or wouldn't do or what features it had or didn't have ! Peoplew ere confused !
Recently Sony announced they've cyt production costs by 35% yet the PS3 is still too pricey for most average gamers.
I hope it doesn't come true but as it stands now, the PS3 is a bust !
Sony should have laid the ground work for Home during the PS2's popularity since MS had doen just that with the original xbox. But no, they delayed and delayed and kept people waiting.
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Saturday, January 03, 2009 @ 11:51:56 PM
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Monday, December 29, 2008 @ 12:54:12 PM
And I don't care what anybody says. The Xbox360 had no games for the 1st year as well.
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