PS3 "Only Console Powerful Enough" To Handle Killzone 2

dveisalive
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 10:58:28 AM
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This just states that PS3 is bad ass!

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jdt1981
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 5:15:11 PM

Go Steelers!!

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Daedusian
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:49:28 AM

Being from PA, it would've been nice to see the eagles go against the steelers this year, and with the Phillies winning in '08, AND the flyers all doing well, it would've been a blowout year for PA, but oh well - k sry, enough of this off topic nonsense lol.

Anyways, I have been saving up for this game with store credit since I think November and I already got that bad boy preordered, so I am definitely stoked!!

Last edited by Daedusian on 1/20/2009 11:50:24 AM

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killzone100
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:03:27 AM
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WoopWoop!!!!

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Zorigo
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 3:50:09 PM

but think about it, it's like mgs4, they knew they had all this space so they made it amazing. if it wasn't exclusive, it would have turned out crapper quality to help those 360 owners. same with gt5 and all upcoming exclusives. there gonna be fudging awesome coz we have a better system technologically.

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Sir Shak
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:03:53 AM
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when is your review going to arrive ben ?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:15:17 AM

Arnold will be reviewing it, and I'm pretty sure he'll have it up immediately after the embargo lifts. February 2 or 3, I believe.

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Daedusian
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:51:50 AM

I'm already expecting an 11 out of 10 in the graphics department from Arnold's review if it's going to be anything like the LBP review, haha!

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JAJABOB92
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:04:52 AM
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i don't get how people ever questioned her power.

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docpain
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 9:22:58 PM

The reason why the power was questioned is because the general public and fanboys judged the PS3 in year 1 of existence. It was an utter joke in year 1, as is the case with almost every single gaming system released. Of course a system will have no games and have no graphics in year 1 of existence. Bashing the PS3 became a fad, a popular thing to do among high school teens. Year 2 has rolled around, and these people are scrambling for cover under their beds. Year 3 is here and Killzone 2 is staring right at the haters.

This is all eeriely similar to 2000-2002 PS2 era, when the Dreamcast "has much better games, better online, better graphics" (just like the 360 now) and was being advertised so heavily with the 9-9-99 tag (just like the 360 is being advertised now). Dreamcast was released a year earlier and the PS2 was being bashed for not being as established as the Dreamcast at the time.

8 years later, and we are laughing at that "competition".

Last edited by docpain on 1/19/2009 9:26:17 PM

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Wage SLAVES
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:27:20 PM

@docpain

You bring up good points. Never thought of it like that. I thought the Dream Cast WAS more advanced though. They just had a disgusting controller!

Last edited by Wage SLAVES on 1/19/2009 11:28:18 PM

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Akuma07
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 12:23:31 AM

the dreamcast had alot more potential then people realised.

they just didnt have enough support for it.

i loved my dreamcast and all my games for it.

SHENMUEEEEEE

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Robochic
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:21:14 AM
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Of course the PS3 is the only console to handle Killzone 2 and most games for that matter, i did the beta and man it was awesome! Not sure why everyone always questions the power of PS3! This will defently show other developers the benefits of making games for the PS3.

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rell
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 4:51:17 PM

You know what I think some developers is going to use as an excuse, an say well we don't want our games to be focus on quality we want quantity. Some developers is still using that as an excuse to not make games for the ps3, some developers are plain lazy.

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isaya85
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:45:13 AM
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And the 2009 line up will prove that statement killzone 2 is just the beginning. If I'm not mistaken didn't they say the PS3 is twice as powerful as xbox360?? If thats true then that means killzone2 will more than max out the 360 if killzone is doing 60% of PS3 power

PSN ID Biggest_GMoney

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ps92117
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 3:21:35 PM

Xbox runs at total of 1TFLOPTFLOP and ps3 runs at total of 2.018TFLOP. source teamxbox.com and vgescape.com.

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eLLeJuss
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:51:31 AM
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ahhh.. I know this is gonna be a great game. Though im getting sick of all the shooters im playing.;(

I want an RPG!!!! oh, Valkyria Chorinicles wasn't enough! I need more :o

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kidgrid
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 12:37:20 PM
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I wish I could watch the videos, but for some reason they don't work. firefox i guess

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xnonsuchx
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 6:10:26 PM

Not Firefox...must be something missing with either your Flash or QuickTime, etc. playback capability, depending on which format you choose.

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JackieBoy
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 12:40:58 PM
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Hell yeah!

I wonder how God of War III will look...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 12:43:53 PM
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He definitely said that to get people up in arms, but I'm guessing it's true. I think we will be able to add GOWIII to that list as well. I think as we finally start to see this gen deliver on it's promises the 360 is kind of going to be left in the dust.

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NightHawk17
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 1:13:06 PM

the thing about that is believe microsoft is gonna wrap the 360 up and say they "won" the hd console war just to save face

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shadowpal2
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 12:58:44 PM
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....so this basically states again how Sony was planning the whole Next-gen proof thing right???

Good...I haven't heard David Jaffe say anything about this...- maybe he's just too jealous of MGS 4 to even give a shit about other games. But then again he said GOWIII had...big big potential.

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shaydey77
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 1:06:48 PM
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This is as obvious as saying the sky is blue.

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NightHawk17
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 1:13:58 PM

not to some fanboys though, they can't tell that the sky ain't blue

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Prevent
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 1:20:03 PM
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The Ps3 is a beast

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vicious54
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 1:33:18 PM
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This is one of the many reasons why I bought a PS3.

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Xanavi23
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 1:37:08 PM
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Killzone 2 and the full GT5(whose graphics and detail are STILL being polished) will truly show people what the PS3 is capable of. The PS3 hasn't even begun yet.

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xnonsuchx
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 6:27:26 PM

I hope the full GT5 has some anti-aliasing...that's the only thing that bugs me on Prologue. It would be nice too if those of us who bought Prologue get something special w/ GT5.

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Xanavi23
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 8:02:34 PM

There's always been some love payed to us guys who have previous GT data as long as the 2 GTs in question are on the same PS console. So we should see something. I hope we get maybe the B and A license bronzed for free at least, that way guys like us can jump right into the real races like Sunday and Clubman cup. Hopefully more would be nice, but so far all ive heard is rumor and hearsay.

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Kingharris
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 1:37:08 PM
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No 360 fan will ever layoff the PS3 each time something better happens "But we have 28 million sold" "PS3 lags" etc: it will only end when the console maker decides to. In the real world PS3 has won, but that will not be accepted for a l-o-n-g time.

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TheRaPtuRe
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 2:13:01 PM
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ANYONE SEEN THIS?

WTF?!!!!

http://allplaystationnews.blogspot.com/2009/01/maxim-gives-killzone-2-355.html

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 5:40:12 PM

Wow, Maxim fails.

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Wage SLAVES
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:36:10 PM

Yeah, it'll (KZ2) speak for itself when it comes out. 50 cent though? He probably rated those games.

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karneli lll
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 2:47:32 PM
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yeah i read that maxim and i was like wtf.What about game informer writting Killzone 2 available for the ps3, 360 and pc, now that's just wrong!

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Ultimadream
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 2:50:53 PM
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Hence why its on the PS3, thiscompanies stating the obvious no? still i like Blood Siren better, off to play t nowi

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jdt1981
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 3:21:49 PM
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Add KZ2 to the growing list of games that aren't possible on other consoles.

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ps92117
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 3:23:50 PM
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Well how many gb does it use up

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ps92117
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 3:26:19 PM
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And sorry to ruin the moment but according to an interview that psu made kz2 does indeed some times run at full power.

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www
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 3:28:10 PM
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Though this might be true,i'd rather prefer it came from a neutral person,like a Peter Moore,Sam Houser or some other multi-plat producer.

Cause a Sony exec would obviously say it's darn good to add much to the hype,y'know,to push sales of ps3 and Killzone 2 itself.

Last edited by www on 1/19/2009 3:29:31 PM

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Wage SLAVES
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:38:38 PM

Thats what Im waiting for. Someone in the damn middle willing to drop the hammer on all the speculations and give PS3 the props.

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Scarecrow
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 4:16:29 PM
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I trust psxextreme to have the best review around.

I will buy this game depending on the review I get here.
I'm not a big FPS fan so yeah.

Last edited by Scarecrow on 1/19/2009 4:16:41 PM

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DarKn35s
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 4:22:31 PM
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where im staying now all the xbots around here are really quite all of a sudden lol
i beleive its all owed to KZ2 8)

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LCF
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 7:07:38 PM
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I'm not surprised at how Killzone 2 looks.I've been following the development of the Cell BE for the past 5 years.

Being a 1st gen. game for GG and running at 60% capacity of the Cell you think games on the PS3 are not going to get any better? This game is a technical marvel and GG and Sony have every right to boast this game.

Funny how 2 other PS3 exclusives coming look stunning as well,Uncharted 2 and GT5.

Killzone has a section where just over 250 light sources are displayed at once,running ingame.That in itself is amazing for it just being a console.Just get credit to where is credit is due.

X360 fanboys should just be happy that a console game is being compaired to a PC like Crysis.PC gamers always say consoles are weak.But here you got K2 comparing Crysis on its highest settings.With the Cell running at 60%.Sony invested alot for its gamer fan base.

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LCF
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 7:23:24 PM

"Give credit to where credit is due" Damn edit not working PSX!

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ps92117
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 7:40:48 PM

LCF a great game is not just made up of good graphic and technical achivment, however I hear that the game also shines glory when it comes to sound and gameplay, as for artistic visual value I seen the vid and it is competent with R2 in a different maner. I also HEAR that they actually have the 05 vid level, intrested how that will be like. Well anyway I am still more excited about the mag concept that one looks like it is going to be fun as hell.

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LCF
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 7:53:30 PM

Read closer Im talking tech.Yes Killzone 7.1 sound is impressive as well.I have 7.1 surround system and not many games support it.Uncharted is one of a few games that actually support DTS.

This game is based on warfare.Watching saving private ryan,you see little to no colour.KZ2 was set to be made as a hollywood style movie.

Gears 1 had some of the best multiplayer surround sound.I could judge how close someone was behind me with out even looking.Then they made gears 1.5 and screwed it all up.So yea sound is very important.

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orangpelupa
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 8:43:34 PM
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[quote="LCF"]PC gamers always say consoles are weak.But here you got K2 comparing Crysis on its highest settings.With the Cell running at 60%[/quote]

err LCF... have you see Cryss @ max? crysis use HDR.. from what i see from the trailers, KZ2 use more bloom and a few hdr.

the developer is creative, rather than use full HDR lighting that heavy to render, they mix it with bloom.

the dynamic lighting in crysis also great.

the only downside of crysis's engine is it (minimal) need 250USD graphic card to play @ high.
my GF 8600GT stuck @ medium setting in 1280x800 :(
i can go high but only get 15-20fps (with a bit overclocking)

btw high-end pc gamer resolution usually is 1440x900 or 1680x ... (cant remember)
and with FSAA ? 8x? also AA 16x? and with very high res textures.
it really awesome when i go to my friend to play crysis. his pc can run it @ 1440x900 all max with 4xAA with paralax mapping.

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LCF
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 8:47:04 PM

Like I stated before,there is no hope for you.

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Crono
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 3:17:18 PM

@ orangpelupa: Not to be an arse, but don't talk about technicals if you don't fully understand them. It's an objective topic, and opinion should be reserved for everything else about a game..

@ LCF: I am still surprised as to how good this game looks. The use of deferred rendering is what's interesting, I'd like to learn more about how it was used. For sure the development of this game has been pretty expensive and they were probably willing to use a lot of 'unrecyclable' techniques in polishing the final product. That's one thing you clearly can't get with third party efforts.. but I don't think any credit should go away from Guerilla Games, they appear to have made something special here.

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orangpelupa
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 8:45:27 PM
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[quote="LCF"]PC gamers always say consoles are weak.But here you got K2 comparing Crysis on its highest settings.With the Cell running at 60%[/quote]

err LCF... have you see Cryss @ max? crysis use HDR.. from what i see from the trailers, KZ2 use more bloom and a few hdr.

the developer is creative, rather than use full HDR lighting that heavy to render, they mix it with bloom.

the dynamic lighting in crysis also great.

the only downside of crysis's engine is it (minimal) need 250USD graphic card to play @ high.
my GF 8600GT stuck @ medium setting in 1280x800 :(
i can go high but only get 15-20fps (with a bit overclocking)

btw high-end pc gamer resolution usually is 1440x900 or 1680x ... (cant remember)
and with FSAA ? 8x? also AA 16x? and with very high res textures.
it really awesome when i go to my friend to play crysis. his pc can run it @ 1440x900 all max with 4xAA with paralax mapping.

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orangpelupa
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 9:08:27 PM
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[quote]Like I stated before,there is no hope for you.[/quote]

im sorry but according to my eyes from seeing the trailers, KZ2 not use full HDR. it mix HDR and bloom.

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LCF
Monday, January 19, 2009 @ 11:37:32 PM

The RSX alone is able to do High dynamic range rendering.Now its up to the developer to utilize it.Infact alot of GPU can do HDR.This is why I say there is no hope for you.You are stuck in the stoneage.

So what its a mix? The over all effect is a true testament to how far console games have come from 2D sprites.

I perfer to play games on my 46" Sony Bravia then some dinky 17" screen with high res.

Big screens have come along way.I can't wait for Killzone 2.This game will be a showcase for my theater system.

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somethingrandom
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 12:16:57 AM

@LCF
I do believe that PC's have surpassed the PS3 at this point. No, the games aren't there to support it, but a top of the line Core i7 CPU, 2 ATI 4870X2's, and some smokin' DDR3 is more powerful than a Cell + RSX. I know the PS3 option is a helluva lot cheaper, but that's besides the point.

Last edited by somethingrandom on 1/20/2009 12:22:03 AM

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Akuma07
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 12:40:25 AM

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

yeah.
im sure if they released a new ps3 every 3 months with the latest hardware, then it would be on par with top level PC's

pretty much. PC lovers. gtfo?
your not included in the next-gen "CONSOLE" war.

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Macintoshgamer
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 10:47:05 PM

@somethingrandom.

No, they have not. A Core i7 Extreme is only a Quad-Core Processor, and performance-per-core, the Cell Processor wins.

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LCF
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 1:39:02 AM
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Core I7 huh? Just cuz that CPU is over clocked dont mean it can do the number crunching like the Cell BE.Why you think Intel is jumping on and going with this type of design?.

You do realize that 2 GPUs is only working one and the other at half capacity right?.You know Cell and Cell type PCs would make it cheaper to play games without having upgrade a GPU everytime in a PC?.Infact a GPU will be no longer needed.The Cell is not even close to any CPU on the market even today.

Funny how the subject changed when I was talking about how Killzone was a technical marvel for a console and how GG and Sony should boast,then this PC crap all popped up.

Consoles are best for gaming,get over it.PCs are best for work.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 9:24:44 PM

yo LCF go do some research about pc you don't know sh** you don't even have brains pc are bst for everything why do you think they heve gaming pc dumbass go buy some good brains friends and pc is and always will stay the best and yeah the intel core i7 only the processor costs $1069 3 ps3 consoles so pc is and will always be the best

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PS3_Wizard
Friday, January 23, 2009 @ 8:22:36 AM

lol! That guy was tryna boost up PC gaming, but seeing as his grammer sucked, his post made him look like the ultimate jackass.

For future reference, everyone should make sure you sound intelligent yourself before tryna make someone else look stupid.

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ceedot
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 2:06:56 AM
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My 360 would prob melt if it played this game. All over My ps3 too! Then I wouldn't be happy.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 6:17:51 AM
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I call bull on this one.

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bearbobby
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:04:01 AM

No???! Really? lol, whudda thunk?

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Xanavi23
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 5:41:49 PM

Sometimes we must accept certain inalliable truths. This is one.

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PS3_Wizard
Friday, January 23, 2009 @ 8:19:22 AM

*inalienable*

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Perry Katy
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 6:18:49 AM
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Why are you guys so serious compared these game with high-end PC game..???
KZ2 proof itself to be a top-notch game in term of graphic for console....

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Macintoshgamer
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 10:38:34 PM

The PS3 is more powerful than most gaming PCs.

I'm not sure if you know, but the Cell Processor was originally made for Supercomputers.

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Perry Katy
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 6:18:50 AM
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Why are you guys so serious compared these game with high-end PC game..???
KZ2 proof itself to be a top-notch game in term of graphic for console....

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tanner1
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 6:47:50 AM
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@ Joshua, u call bull on what the fact that the 360 couldnt produce a game like killzone 2, or what LCF is saying cos i tell ya buddy he has forgotten more than ull ever know ;)

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Deleted User
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 2:52:59 AM

I have yet to see a game that couldn't be done on both systems.

Why you guys so happy about this? It should look MUCH better for all the hyperbole we where fed.

And about your last comment. I hope your not talking about the amount I get. Because then I surely know you dont know me to well.

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Wage SLAVES
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 2:58:45 AM

@Joshua

MGS4

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LCF
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 3:33:23 AM

JA360, How the hell do you know? You dont even own a PS3. Epic and Volition both stated the X360 is maxed out in terms of the X360 hardware. They work with the damn hardware, so get your head out of your ass and listen to them.

Last edited by LCF on 1/21/2009 3:36:09 AM

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dillonthebunny
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 9:46:01 AM
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OPM UK scans posted in the forum :)

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cadpig
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 1:09:58 AM
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Stop telling me how great it is.....and release it already! I have got high hopes for killzone 2. Can't wait!!!!

Last edited by cadpig on 1/21/2009 1:10:47 AM

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tanner1
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 6:04:42 AM
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Why am i talking about the amount u get? I was simply stating that what LCF doesnt know isnt worth knowing

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Deleted User
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 9:05:59 PM
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ps3 sucks try pc gaming with a hd video card support better graphics and sony also said that ps3 has the most powerfull processor on the planet wel it aint true so sony and their playstation sucks try pc gaming for gods sake

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 9:33:48 PM
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the_game: Your ignorance makes you a waste of space. I won't even get into it, but let's just say that if you limit yourself to PC gaming, you've got NOTHING TO PLAY.

Congrats. Now get out.

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Macintoshgamer
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 10:35:53 PM
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IBM PowerPC Cell Processor>Xenon. The PS3's Cell Processor has 7 Processor Cores, while the Xenon has only 3 cores. The PS3 uses high-end XDR (Rambus) GDDR3 RAM. Furthermore, the PS3 has an overall higher FLOPS than the Xbox 360—quite a bit more, actually. The PS3 gets 2 TFLOPS overall, the Xbox 360 gets 1 TFLOP.

So yeah, if you look at the specs, it's easy to see why.

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shootu
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 1:59:00 AM
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@Pushtrak and JoshuaAdam360 why in the hell are you one here??? Just to piss people off???? This is PSXextreme so go to Xrox and be ROCK star there. Pushtrak pass the POP CAN to Josh crackers!

@Ben can we get rid of these idiots?????

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shootu
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 2:00:59 AM
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JoshuaAdam360 is calling for BULLS MILK on this one

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Powershifter
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 12:03:22 PM
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..back to the subject.. Ben, I really hope Killzone 2 lives up to all the hype. I guess I've just learned to be skeptical because of previous titles like Lair and Haze. The makers of Haze said in one of their videos that they hope when people think of the top FPS on the PS3, they think of Haze.

Games that miss the mark make me think of this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FfFJj84_kw0 ... more specifically, watch minutes 3 to 4m 50s

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Powershifter
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 12:26:11 PM
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sorry, wasn't sure if I could post a link...

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Klint
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 12:52:20 PM
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Except for PCs...

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Quincho
Saturday, January 31, 2009 @ 6:53:47 PM
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this is only the firts one, I think there are many games coming thath the 360 wont be able to handle, this is just the begining of true next gen!!

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