Hirai: Nintendo Not A Competitor, Xbox 360 "Lacks Longevity"
See Full ImageWell, you have to give the guy credit. He hasn't once backed off on his stance; he has always said the PlayStation 3 will emerge on top in this generation. And that's what Sony Computer Entertainment chairman Kazuo Hirai does: he makes bold statements, then works to try to back them up. Pretty simple, really.
According to a recent interview with OPM, Hirai said he believes Microsoft's Xbox 360 "lacks longevity" and won't be able to compete with the PS3 down the road. As far as Nintendo's gargantuan lead, Hirai simply said, "I'd like to think that we continue official leadership in this industry." He also said he doesn't look at the Wii as a competitor (which we at PSXE have been saying all along), and went on to say that "they're a different world and we operate in our world." And as always, when asked about the 360, Hirai says he has difficulty assigning just "one word" to the system, but in the interview he said "you need a word that describes something that lacks longevity." He went on:
"Last time I checked, they've never had a console that's been on the market for more than four or five years and we've committed to a ten year life cycle, so you do the math. And unless things go really bad, there's no way that at the end of a life cycle our competition is going to have a higher install base."
Well, that's probably true. The PlayStations just seem to stick around for a longer span of time, although the original went out in about 6 years. The PS2 is still going (it's currently in its 9th year), and Sony has said many times that the PS3 has a 10-year lifespan as well. The 360 isn't likely to last that long, but who knows? We don't try to predict the future, but it's part of Hirai's job to try.
1/20/2009 Ben Dutka
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englishgolfer
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 12:11:39 PM
i don't know. if you use the xbox as a door stop you might get 20 - 25 years out of it ;-)
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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 1:12:34 PM
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Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 3:19:37 PM
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CH1N00K
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 8:54:17 PM
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kidgrid
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 9:42:35 AM
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Dingodial
Friday, January 23, 2009 @ 4:06:59 PM
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EddPm6
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:22:22 AM
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coverton341
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:36:46 AM
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Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 1:42:29 PM
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Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 3:13:06 PM
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Powershifter
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 1:31:32 PM
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Arvis
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:23:34 AM
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Zorigo
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:28:39 AM
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coverton341
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:38:36 AM
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Arvis
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:53:29 AM
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coverton341
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 12:02:25 PM
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Orvisman
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 12:20:40 PM
Kind of difficult since Hironobu Sakaguchi started Mistwalker when he left SquareEnix.
I know why he left and dislikes Square, but I don't understand his dislike for Sony.
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kreate
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 8:47:00 PM
although from a financial standpoint, sakaguchi might make games multiplatform (hopefully). i have both the blue dragon and lost odyssey. and its decent rpgs. lost odyssey a bit more of a dissapointment for me though.
anyone know what sakaguchi is doing now?
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pavlovic
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:29:26 AM
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So I think the real competitor for the PS3 in the long term will be the next Xbox console.
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N a S a H
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:30:14 AM
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ps92117
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:34:52 AM
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coverton341
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:40:42 AM
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coverton341
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:56:37 AM
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Daedusian
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:40:21 AM
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coverton341
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:44:36 AM
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Daedusian
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 12:11:25 PM
And yeah, it doesn't even matter what Nintendo does for their next console.. it could be the exact same system with a new controller and they'll call it a day and make crazy money all over again like how they're doing with the Wii now.
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FreQaZoiD
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:42:05 AM
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This is simply my opinion XBots. :)
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coverton341
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:46:34 AM
Those are true facts right there. ;)
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FreQaZoiD
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 3:36:13 PM
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kreate
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 8:53:38 PM
although i think xbox sucks, its a hella lot better than a wii.
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whooka
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 12:28:11 PM
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StrategicGnomer
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 12:34:07 PM
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MetalHead09
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 6:24:16 PM
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shaydey77
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 12:36:57 PM
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As to if Microsoft launched a new console now I highly doubt there would be customer backlash. Look at the sheer amount of faulty systems they have shipped..any backlash there??
They are in it for the money, plain and simple.
theres nothing wrong with that except they really dont care about the gaming community.
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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 9:55:19 PM
If they do something with Digital Downloads then they have no prospect here. If my HDD were to kick the bucket Im going to have to sit hours to Download ALL my sh*t again!!! NOPE! Not happenin.
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Jordahn
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 1:11:43 PM
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NiteKrawler
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 6:06:37 PM
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Jordahn
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 10:01:30 PM
What was I thinking? When I said "Gamecube" I meant "Wii." Sorry. But would you rather prefer a casual gamer to spend $250 on a Wii or save that $250 to eventually buy a PS3? It would be nice to see more casual gamers buy the PS3 because it lends more support to SONY. But no matter how you slice it, $250 on a Wii is $250 less for a PS3. I cannot see how anyone cannot see this reality.
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NiteKrawler
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 1:17:22 AM
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Powershifter
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 1:46:42 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 1:12:31 PM
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Storage media is still very important, and for the next gen experience we were promised to come true one just flat out needs more than 9 gigs. As more and more games like GOWIII, Killzone 2, Heavy Rain, and InFamous hit shelves both gamers and formerly biased "journalists" will be forced to play these games because what Can and Is coming for 360 for all intents and purposes can't get much better than the exclusives it has at this very moment. When the best games are no longer on people's systems they will "break down" and buy a PS3.
Now, I have "broken down" and bought a few consoles in my time and if you also have then you know the thrill of secretly thinking, "Oh my God I was wrong the whole time, these games are better by far." SOFTWARE Goddammit, That is why 360 has not the longevity required to endure. At some point even games that were multiplat will not be able to make a new iteration that pushes the boundaries while still functioning on the xbox.
Face it, trying to jump forward on old media is trouble wether it's N64 and 32x with cartridges or Dreamcast with GDRoms, these attempts always fall short in the end. I still love my Dreamcast, and I hope people without RROD can love their Xboxcast while it lasts, but that time will draw to a close in the next few years.
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ps92117
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 2:12:24 PM
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King James
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 12:21:20 PM
The XBox360 is limited because the software is limited. Its all relative.
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dirdiggler
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 2:46:50 PM
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Crono
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 3:41:53 PM
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isaya85
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 4:25:02 PM
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PSN ID Biggest_GMoney
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Scarecrow
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 5:14:01 PM
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I look at its future this year and into 2010 and I see nothing but more Halo and Gears
Seriously the 360's dead!
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kreate
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 8:55:57 PM
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Aftab
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 5:14:37 PM
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As for Sony's next machine, they can't afford to wait much longer after. Hopefully they adopt a similar architecture as the present ps3, upgrade the graphics card, RAM, and Bluray capacity and readspeed, so that they can save on manufacturing process costs, and release a system at more affordable price point.
But one thing is for sure. Customers don't want to see a next gen system anytime soon, because they've spent more money during this gen than anytime before. Many Dev's may not want to just, yet, because development time and costs have gone up, and shorter gen-times means less sales and royalties.
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LCF
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 10:17:44 PM
I sound like a damn broken record.lol
There is a reason why Intel is going with this Cell type design.
IBM is making PCs that dont use any type of windows or microsoft software.We are moving forward with computer technology.Microsoft is already starting to lose its grip over the PC market.
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aaronisbla
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 5:52:48 PM
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ec0li
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 6:39:49 PM
In the famous words of Dennis Green:
"They are who we thought they were!" :)
To be serious though, I don't think 360 fans really care that much. The 360 is already 3 years old going on 4. If it can last until 2012 which looks very likely, there should not be many complaints. 6 to 7 years sounds just about right for a console cycle in my opinion.
The main reason why MS stopped the original xbox which lasted 4-5 years only was that it was too damn expensive to make. Hard drives back then were just not cost effective at all. The original xbox reached 24 million during its lifetime and the 360 has reached 28 million in less time. MS's gaming division is now profitable. They sell tons of software and Xbox Live is bringing in a constant and sizable stream of revenue. The 360 definitely will not be going away for most probably another 3 years.
Nintendo on the other hand could care less. They're laughing all the way to the bank.
In the end, this statement was made to shut PS3 doomsayers up and to assure PS3 fans Sony is in this game for the long run.
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kreate
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 8:56:54 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 9:27:05 PM
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ec0li
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:03:10 PM
I guess we'll just have to wait for MS's fiscal year 2009 reports.
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Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 6:38:57 PM
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Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 7:14:01 PM
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LCF
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 8:22:39 PM
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Sony invested alot for its gamer base.
1.Invested in a new disc storage(Blu-ray)
2.Invested with IBM(Toshiba)Make a radical chip
(Cell B.E)
3.No disc trays.
4.HDMI 1.3a standard(Full range RGB and Super white)
5.Web browsing.
6.Open system(any linux based O/S)
7.Free networking.
8.Built in Ion recharge battery pack(Dualshock3,best controller ever IMO)
9.Built in Wi-Fi.
10.USB 2.0 support.
11.Up to 7 channel Bluetooth support.
12.Printer support.
13.Photo support.
14.Music support(ATRAC 352 kbps @ 44.1/88.2/176.4 Khz)
15.DVD upscaler(Top of the line)
16.BD 1080p 24Hz Output.
17.Blu-ray Player(Top of the line)
18.Dolby True HD and DTS HD Master Audio 7.1 support.
19.PSP remote play(I can access my PS3 from work over the net)
20.Optical audio out(Linear PCM)
21.SATA HDD(mine is 320gb)
People bytch about price and Sony heard,so you lost.
1.B/C with PS2 only games(lost the EE chip and GPU)
2.Flash media card readers.
3.2 USB ports.
I never complained about the price I got the 80 gig for $600,knew it was just over $800 hit for Sony to make.It was a steal with all it could do.Hardcore gamers such as myself are in my age group of 30-40 years old.Sony grew with us.It was meant to be a media hub(games/movies/photos/music/internet).PS2 and xbox was trying to do this last gen with DVD movie playback.Sony just took it one step further and made it advanced and future proof.This is no toy.
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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 10:15:08 PM
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LCF
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 10:23:18 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 9:28:00 PM
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NightHawk17
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 10:50:29 PM
"The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long"
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ec0li
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:01:15 PM
@Wage SLAVES
"Thats why the Xbox gamers should feel duped! If they dont they're being ignorant. Their interests were not in mind at M$, PERIOD."
And Sony has your best interest in mind? Big companies do what they can to make profit, nothing more, nothing less. You're basically calling 360 gamers stupid for buying the 360 because they chose to play a set of games that they prefer on that system. Btw, you're better off insulting and complaining to the big companies than your fellow gamers. Way to go FANBOY!
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ec0li
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:08:11 PM
Btw, do you own a 360? It seems you're between a rock and a hard place. If you do own a 360, you're one of those "duped" and "ignorant" suckers. If you don't, then you're just one those FANBOYS that just love to taunt the other side for no other reason. Pick your poison.
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LCF
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:13:57 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:35:09 PM
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Wage SLAVES
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 2:19:24 AM
Pick my poison? Lol. Look I've said it before I have the cash to get a 360 but its just not worth the couple of months before it bricks. Anyways apparently I hurt your feelings but you are Obviously ignorant.
I did my research on the systems and at the time I was prospecting for a system the PS3 was already out. Now I just dont see an excuse for owning a 360. Look if you think M$ is healthy as a whole for the console gaming community than I think I'm done with your opinion.
P.S. Try to be more civil when arguing, D*ck
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ec0li
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 2:50:15 AM
Haha, feelings? I'm a robot, I've got none.
You failed to see my point. You should just be happy with what you have and that's that. The fact that you call 360 owners "ignorant" "duped" people shows me where your level of thinking is. Only FANBOYS do that type of thing.
Btw, I happen to think LCF is one of the smarter peeps who comment here. Him owning a 360 and an elite one to boot does not make him "ignorant". Hell you can add Aftab and Mr. Dutka on that list. "Duped" maybe, but "ignorant" naaaww.
I've been pretty civil with my arguments. Maybe I should try and copy your style instead so you can understand.
Here goes: Right back at you, D*ck!
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Wage SLAVES
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 3:04:37 AM
Shouting out Fanboy isn't all that civil.
I was speaking of those that have gotten burned by the M$ machine. Im telling you, your just not getting it...if you are burned by the bricked 360 then you are "duped" if you deny that fact you are "igonorant".
Get it together.
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Wage SLAVES
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 3:06:29 AM
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ec0li
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 11:58:49 AM
If it walks like a FANBOY and it talks like FANBOY then it must be a FANBOY.
Let me say it again. If certain gamers choose a specific system for games that they prefer, it's their prerogative. They don't need to be called "ignorant" by somebody who does not even own that system.
You should just shup up and sit down. Civility is out the window because you don't deserve it.
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LightShow
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 10:51:31 PM
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That musta stung, eh M$?
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LCF
Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:28:40 PM
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1.Disc gouging.
2.Over heating processors(RROD)
3.E-74 error (upscaler or GPU fried,not covered $100 fix)
They still released a product that end up having a 33% fail rate.That is unheard of in the console market.It should of been recalled.
Funny really I'm not going into great detail with all the X360 problems.However if you look across the whole microsoft hardware spectrum you'll see microsoft can't make any good quality hardware.Microsoft really needs to stick with software.
I went though 2 X360s and end up buying a Elite.Now as far as im concerned X360 install base is inflated because of reoccuring purchases like myself.Also makes you think about how many games had to be repurchased because of disc gouging.
My Elite will last a long ass time because it dont get used.(Gears 1.5 was a huge let down)
Besides Killzone 2 will knock everyone's ass down that I know of.
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ec0li
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 1:05:37 AM
I have experienced an rrod myself. I'm no advocate of these big companies, both MS and Sony. Even though the PS3 is definitely a quality machine, it just amazes me when people think that Sony is some type of charity corporation. They are just as greedy as MSft and exist to make a profit.
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Wage SLAVES
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 2:26:24 AM
That is a stupid statement to say that Sony is as "Greedy" as M$. Your brain just isn't in the game now is it. We all know M$ rushed their sh*t out of the door to get a head start. Now that has greed written all over it. $ before the customer. Quit making excuses and admit it. Sony has yet to treat their customers like Sh*t and I hope the gamers that got stiffed, besides you because you apparently like it in the A$$, stay away from that cancer.
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ec0li
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 1:07:27 PM
Maybe you should try and take off those rose-colored glasses that you have on so you can see better. Sony does not care about you(same with MSFT or Ninty). They only care about making their shareholders happy and the almighty bottom line. Unless they give you a huge paycheck every 2 weeks, you should start thinking about if kowtowing on the Sony altar is worth it.
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LightShow
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 4:52:10 PM
while they *may* not genuinely care about giving me a quality machine, they certainly are good at making me think they want my money, and are willing to jump through a few hoops to get it.
When I deal with Sony, I feel like a valued customer. The thing with M$ is they cant even maintain a thin facade of this kind of customer service. To them, I'm disposable and they don't care if i think so. THATS the difference between the two.
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somethingrandom
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 12:37:33 AM
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Wage SLAVES
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ps92117
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dveisalive
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LCF
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 2:41:39 AM
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The Cell processor running at 3.2GHz,is capable of a theoretical maximum of 256Gflops, thus placing it instantly at the forefront of potential multi-chip supercomputer designs of the future. The chip is built on a 65nm process and contains 234 million transistors.
The Cell is capable of dynamic power management (perhaps a variant of Transmeta'a Long Run power management technology) throttling itself to suit the current processing load.
The Synergistic Processing Elements: Cellular Engines.
Each Synergistic Processing Elements(SPE)is a powerful processor in its own right, focused on one thing, churning through single precision and double precision mathematical calculations. As each SPE component is a subordinate part of the whole Cell processor, they can dispense with a lot of the complex instruction queuing logic that a typical modern single processor computer needs. Each SPE gets its orders from the 64-bit Power PC unit which handles the scheduling and parceling of data out to the SPEs. Instead the focus is on speed.
Each SPE has 256KB of on-die memory allotted only to it, but instead of being used as conventional cache memory, this small area of high-speed storage is actually addressed almost like typical system RAM. The L1 cache memory found in conventional processors is highly automated, making it simple to program for but adding overhead. With the Cell processor, programmers can dictate exactly how they wish their software to use the 256KB allotment available to each SPE. This allows execution efficiency to be increased with good software design. It also allows better memory management and security from buffer overflows and other exploits.
Individual SPEs should be able to pass data to each other by storing it in specific areas of the system memory, forming a chain of processing units each performing a different operation on the data. Obviously this requires an extremely fast interface between the system RAM and the SPEs.Thats the Cell in a nutshell.
In 2008, IBM announced a revised variant of the Cell called the PowerXCell 8i, which is available in QS22 Blade Servers from IBM. The PowerXCell is manufactured on a 65 nm process, and adds support for up to 32GB of slotted DDR2 memory, as well as dramatically improving double-precision floating-point performance on the SPEs from a peak of about 14 GFLOPS to 102 GFLOPS total for 8 SPEs. The IBM Roadrunner supercomputer, currently the world's fastest, consists of exactly 12,240 PowerXCell 8i processors.
So as you can see, GPU in the PS4? Highly(I stress!) unlikely.
As for the price in 3 years? that I dont know. Depends on how many atoms can be removed from the chip without compromise.
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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 2:52:25 AM
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Wage SLAVES
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King James
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 1:07:52 PM
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somethingrandom
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 9:19:52 PM
Btw, for all of you who think this is really impressive knowledge, think again. I learned most of what I know from a magazine, and the rest from PC hardware books. All you need is a good memory, cuz it's explained pretty well.
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Dingodial
Friday, January 23, 2009 @ 4:39:27 PM
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Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 2:45:35 AM
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I see now that it IS becoming impossible for people to just like the Playstation without hating the Xbox.
I for one find it very odd Ben that the Xbox just had its best sales year EVER yet all you guys are claiming it wont last.
Some people like the 360. Some people simply dont want a PS3 now. Is it really that hard? Come on guys..show some dignity.
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LCF
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 3:39:37 AM
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King James
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 1:15:19 PM
But Josh, U have to realize that unlike me...most ppl really liked/loved their 360 and it failed on them (more than once)! That will turn ANYBODY off of ANY consumer product.
And yes, ur system won't last. It was built for today and not tomorrow. Something u, the 360 fan, should be well aware of.
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Arvis
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 1:22:10 PM
Besides, no one knows how successful either console will be this year, we just have to wait and see. I just can't fathom the 360 continuing to post healthy numbers when it has nothing new coming out this year. The only reason anyone is even cognizant of the name "Alan Wake" is because 360 owners who are DESPERATE for something to look forward to constantly bring it up for lack of anything else to talk about.
Sorry, but if you were expecting everyone to go "hey, the 360 will be great even with no new exclusives" then you were mistaken.
-Arvis
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LCF
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 5:24:26 AM
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1.Demon's Souls - February 5th 2009 JP, TBA 2009 NA/EU
2.EyePet: Your Virtual Pet - TBA 2009 NA/EU/JP
3.God of War III - Q4 2009 NA/EU/JP
4.Gran Turismo 5 - Q4 2009 NA/EU/JP
5.Heavy Rain - TBA 2009 US/EU/JP
6.InFamous - May 2009 NA, Spring 2009 EU/JP
7.Killzone 2 - February 27 2009 US, February 2009 EU, TBA 2009 JP
8.MAG - TBA 2009 NA/EU/JP
9.Quantum Theory - TBA 2009 (2010?) NA/EU/JP
10.Ratchet & Clank Future 2 - Q4 2009 NA/EU/JP
11.Uncharted 2: Among Theives - Q4 2009 NA/EU/JP
12.WarDevil: Unleash the Beast Within - TBA 2009 NA/EU/JP
13.White Knight Chronicles (aka White Knight Story) - Q2 2009 NA/EU, December 25 2008 JP
14.X-Edge - March 2009 NA, TBA 2009 EU, September 25 2008 JP
15.Yakuza 3 - February 26 2009 JP, TBA 2009 NA/EU
16.Yakuza: Kenzan - TBA 2009 US/EU, March 6 2008 JP
2009 PSN Titles.
1.Fat Princess - Spring 2009 NA/EU/JP
2.flOwer - Ferbuary 2009 NA/EU/JP
3.Nobi Nobi Boy - TBA 2009 NA/EU/JP
4.Ragdoll Kung Fu: Fists of Plastic - TBA 2009 NA/EU/JP
5.Savage Moon - January 15 2009 NA, December 23 2008 EU, TBA 2009 JP
2009 Semi-Exclusives.
1.The Agency - TBA 2009
Platforms: PS3/PC
2.DC Universe Online - TBA 2009
Platforms: PS3/PC
3.Free Realms - TBA 2009
Platforms: PS3/PC
4.MLB ’09: The Show - March 3 2009 NA
Platforms: PS3/PS2/PSP
5.NBA '10 - Q4 2009 NA
Platforms: PS3/PSP
I think this speaks for itself.
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jdt1981
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Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 6:59:06 AM
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Arvis
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 1:23:58 PM
-Arvis
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Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 2:56:07 PM
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LightShow
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 5:00:54 PM
while the 360 does a lot of things "different", different doesn't always mean innovative. Most of the 360's "innovations" are on the business side of things, I cant see one thing new the 360, everything it has was here last generation.
alright, the pack-in wireless controllers were new. i'll give them that.
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jdt1981
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 6:19:37 PM
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LCF
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 7:29:57 PM
What can they do to keep their so called "lead" in 2nd place(I think repurchases make the install base inflated)
You need technology to be innovative. Take the Wii-mote and Wii system. If the Wii had more computational power, there could be more quality games on there that could use the wii-mote to it's fullest potential. The Wii had potenial IMO but failed with lack of hardware(It's a toy nothing more)
Microsoft after 3 years is in this boat.Their hardware and disc storage choice only took them this far...Now what? In a couple of years the X360 will prolly end up with just shovelware.
Bigger and more computational demanding games are only a few years out for 3rd parties if not now and im not just talking about graphics only.
I blame the economy for the PS3 not being in 2nd or even 1st place in user base(but then again whats to say it isn't?,again my inflate theory)
As technology advances so does the cost to produce it, video games is no exception.
I blame Sega for this..for releasing the Dreamcast and showing us that video games is not just a hobby...but an artform.
Game designers compete with each other on who can make the best and innovative game(GDC anyone?)To tell a story and bring it as close as you can to your vision, you need technology(MGS4)
Epic/grand game on limited hardware?
or
Epic/grand game on Higher powered hardware?
Let me put it this way.If The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time was to be re-made and updated on any console system, which would you chose?
Imagine if everyone owned all 3.
WII. (8.54 GB dual layer) Wii-disc
X360.(8.50 GB single-sided double-layer) DVD9
PS3. (50 GB dual layer) Blu-ray
What system would you want your epic game on?
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Wage SLAVES
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 8:44:56 PM
I think your right. The Wii did have some potential, huh? I think they would've had a great gaming machine if they would of put a lil more horse power. Instead they underpowered it, basically, neutering it. In turn it grew stale and FAST.
In the end Nintendo isn't dissatisfied but what of the millions of Wii owners out there?
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King James
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 1:49:21 PM
Don't give them nothing.
@jdt
Good point. I can count on 1 hand the number of fresh new and GOOD IPs M$ has come out with.
@LCF
Good analogy. Ocarina of Time re-made? PS3 plz.
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LCF
Wednesday, January 21, 2009 @ 11:45:03 PM
corp.Look at all those damn lawsuits.Go google it.
That whole future proofing and present proofing is nonsense.What I think you are trying to say is that Sony is god awful at marketing this beast in-which I agree 100%.
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dveisalive
Thursday, January 22, 2009 @ 1:41:08 AM
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Tuesday, January 20, 2009 @ 11:22:03 AM