Will Publishers Rush Exclusives For Sake Of PlayStation 3 Sales?

It's a question that probably has no real foundation in the business world; I'm almost certain it can't possibly work this way. I'd like to believe that no developer would compromise their final, ultimate vision by a publisher's pressure to finish the project ASAP. But then again, with the ailing economy and Sony's need to push more hardware, you never can tell what the future holds...

As we all know, there are many PS3 exclusives coming up and some of them could turn out to be legitimate system-sellers. Gran Turismo 5 may head the list, but let's not forget about God of War III, Heavy Rain, Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, and off in the future, Final Fantasy Versus XIII. But they're all still a ways off - at least 6 months, I would think - and Sony could use a major console pusher. Killzone 2 should kick off a fairly substantial PS3 sales spike, but that will probably only last a month or two. Sony will want to keep that momentum, and if there's too large a gap between hotly anticipated exclusive software, that could represent another unwanted lull. Therefore, might it be possible that Sony is putting a little pressure on the publishers involved to finish up the big projects? I really don't think anyone could convince someone like Kazunori Yamauchi to "rush" something like GT5, but with other games, who knows?

I am no expert on the inner workings of the video game business, so this may sound like complete hogwash. But logically speaking, it may be a viable argument, and we have heard developers complaining of pushy publishers in the past. They don't typically announce these complaints publicly - nobody wants to piss off the company that will distribute their game - but we're relatively certain studios have dealt with antsy publishers in the past. This could become even more legitimate if the developers in question start missing deadlines; this is not a time for big delays, and Sony knows it. But as always, we remain stoic in our belief that no developers should ever be rushed...not ever. Let them work to make the best game possible, and we'll be happy. We're not that impatient and we almost always have plenty of great titles to tide us over. Really, we're just saying.

1/25/2009 Ben Dutka

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Qubex
Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 11:10:58 PM
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Desperate?

Q!

"i Am HomE"

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Ed_Wayne
Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 11:17:19 PM
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I really hope that Sony doesn't rush anyone. I just want to play good games.

God of War 3
Team Ico's game
Gran Turismo 5

Those are some games that I KNOW will be universally regarded as some of the best games this generation. More importantly, I know I will love them. But only if these developers are given all the time they need. I'm pretty sure we're looking at Q1 2010 for all 3 of them. And you know what? That's fine by me. Quality. That's all I want.

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laxpro2001
Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 11:31:25 PM

Agreed... I'd rather wait and be extremely pleased with the end result... though producers could hurry a little on FF and abandon the 360 version so I can possibly get to play KH III before I graduate college -_-

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www
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 5:13:09 AM

As much we'd all love to give developers all the time in the world to put out the best;i don't think MS are waiting around,their sales keep going up and if ps3 wants to catch up and surpass,i think the exclusives might need to be rushed.
360 was rushed and consumers except me, showed that it paid off,the system was faulty yet they went in for it,why shouldn't Sony do the same especially in times like this when they really need sp3 sales up.

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laxpro2001
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 8:38:30 AM

Yes rushing did pay off for the 360, however thats only because it was the first Next-Gen system on the market. So people didn't have anything to compare it to and see that it was crappy quality.

Now if Sony decided to rush publishers and the end result was crappy games, since people now have a choice, they might decide to buy a 360

The way I look at it, if people would complain about waiting for a game to be released and start bashing the ps3, they probably aren't mature enough to buy a game or let alone the system

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coverton341
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:32:30 PM

@laxpro

Unfortunately for all of us mental maturity and financial stability do not go hand in hand.
I know many a person who own 360's for the simple fact that "it has more games", "Sony takes to long with the delaystation", and all the other horse crap that is said, and all of these people are very able to buy a PS3 if they were so inclined but don't due to the previously stated reasons. It makes me want to slap people sometimes but hey whatcha gonna do you know?

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Fatcat3788
Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 11:36:14 PM
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Well from what we hear of how Sony works with Insomniac then it shouldn't be a problem. Insomniac always praises Sony on how they don't make them rush their products or expect Halo-killers or anything like that. I just hope that Sony treats all their exclusive developers that way... ESPECIALLY ICO. All I can say is DO NOT RUSH THEM.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:11:50 PM

sony owns ico =)

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ps92117
Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 11:42:14 PM
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In my opinion there is too many ANTICIPATED titles for ps3 that may collide with each other and force delay, like r2 did to kz2. in the case of kz2 it actually got more spare time in the production line, benefiting the overall quality of the game. I think that this is what may happen to Uncharted 2 vs God of War 3 vs Gran turismo 5, if Uncharted is finished near the holiday season it may push gow3 and gt5 back, and further more gow3 may push gt5 back ,vise versa. Though you could also suggest that Uncharted may be rushed a bit so as to further extend the time intervials, meaning that u2 may drop part of the quality but gow3 and gt5 may increase in quality.

As for consel pusher, I think that mag,team ico's project, ff13v, gow3, gt5 and kz2 will push the most with the other titles not appealing as much. Though any game with a fair amount of comercial time will push consels, and great games that are hidden from public (mgs4) will not.

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ps92117
Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 11:53:42 PM

ps I think that if noughty dog and insomniac went back to j&d and r&d those would push a fair amount of consels, given comercial time ofcourse.

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Bill_Clinton_
Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 11:54:48 PM
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the person who wrote this article does sound like a hogwash.. i just think your trying to stir up something that doesn't need stirred..

@ps92117 one thing about the games you just named is that there all differnt so even if they all came out months apart from each other i still think there going to sell.. in the upcoming months we have kz2,infamous,and mlb the show 2009 and all three games will sell in its own right just because there all differnt.. i feel sony doing awesome right now theres alot of momentum with kz2 and its going to continue with mlb 2009..

We start with a awesome year for gaming....

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ps92117
Sunday, January 25, 2009 @ 11:59:32 PM

ben, the person who wrote this very respected here and I think he wrote it for the sake of a discussion, not to "stirred up" something as yopu sugessted

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Qubex
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 1:04:20 AM

Bill Clinton, please consider removing yourself from here if you are going to criticize Ben in an un-educated misinformed way. Whilst constructive criticism is always acceptable, to blatantly call the author of the article a "hogwash" is quite severe...

Q!

"i aM hOme"

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:48:50 AM

Are you in any way related to SARAHPALINMILF?

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Bill_Clinton_
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:10:26 AM
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i completely understand theres alot of tittles coming out this year so i do see where hes coming from.. i guess i reacted at not him personally or the article its just sony an the ps3 which i own been getting attack with a hole alot of bad press in the gaming world if you know what i mean an for the longest time people been saying sony has no games, sony has no games.. but then yet when sony gets game so how some way theres haters still trying to bring them down..

so i apologize..

i'm very passionate about gaming

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 1:52:12 AM

LOL, I think Ben single-handedly murdered the no-games argument in several articles.

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LCF
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:24:39 AM
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I think this past Nov-Dec just showed us what happens when you push all your games for the holiday season.Alot of great titles got over looked on both consoles. I Believe that triple A titles should be spread out,maybe like 1 every 3-4 months.If any game that needs to be pushed thats fine with me,that will just add more polish to the game like what happen with Killzone 2.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:46:28 AM
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I dont know..

I heard alot of ruckus before about MGS4 and LBP. I know they wont rush them. But in this time im finding it harder and harder to believe that any one title will do much to push a $400 console in this time.

Now if the $299 rumors are true and they manage to get atleast 2 of those in before the holiday season. I could see some decent sales.

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Qubex
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 1:12:25 AM

Joshua, you should really have your head read... and read by the almighty... decent sales, the Ps3 is about 8 million units behind the 360. It is almost twice as expensive and was a year later than the 360... if you do the maths statistically... in its first two and half years of the Ps3's life, it is fairing far better comparatively to the Xbot and Xbot360. If you also care to take into consideration, Ps3 sales number are tracking what the Ps2 did all those years ago... therefore, if the Ps3 does have a life of 7 to 10 years (realistically), we "should" have a 100 million sold...

You need to think a little and consider statistics and fact. Yes Ps3 is more expensive and we know sales could be better if the price were reduced; and reduced it shall be within months.

Yes we know the 360 is "easier" to develop for, but we also know that once developers start to show what they can really do with the Ps3 hardware set, we should start to see games (generally) looking superior on the Ps3 than on the 360 (at least the exclusives anyway)... Killzone 2 is case in point... something you cannot possibly deny.. unless you want to lie to yourself...

Yes we know Xbot Live my be "better" in some ways (minimanily now)... but once Home is full fleshed out it will put Xbot Live to shame... again, you have to think 2 years from now to get a perspective of where it is going...

Yes we know games can be made and developed for DVD, but once movie and game media start the migration to 3D... Blu Ray will come into its own...

It is all there waiting to happen... and it will happen, and you cannot stop it... and denying it just means you are lying to yourself...

Q!

"i aM hOme"

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ps92117
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 1:43:46 AM

unlike before joshua is not being biased,a 400$ consel is hard to push when its competitor is only half the price, however joshua like many of us say sony does not like to advertise, if they would have taken the time to advertise, ps3 would not have sold so low, and indeed with a price cut I think ps3 would sell like it was doing in the first half of 08 beating 360.

ps, joshua I still expect you to slip again.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 1:55:49 AM

You guys are missing the point. And stop with the "this year that year" crap. The developers care about the NOW. Not what might happen in 2 years.

Now I have no idea where the home/Live argument came from. But your obviously biased to the point of no other. Home may be cool to some but its not attractive to me. Nothing against it just I dont see the fun in living in a fake world. Im perfectly fine having real friends thank you.

Now about advertising. Sony has recently released studies showing the value. The problem with it is the price, and soon to be changed lack of hot titles. You know what made the PS2 so successful? The was a game machine FIRST and that you could also watch dvds if you wanted to. For some time now the PS3 has simply been a chariot for bluray, with the fact that it could also play games. That mentality is changing thankfully and im looking forward to old favorites being released.

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ps92117
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:13:36 AM

Nice joshua do you plan on buying a ps3, maybe then you can actually judge home. LOL when you said "now about advertising" did you plan to talk about sony's advertising, or was that just few extra words meant to make the overall comment look longer. take a look at what you said ""THIS YEAR that year" crap. The developers care about the NOW." there just something bothering me about that part of the comment, don't know what it is. but anyway sorry for taking into account the past. Oh I completely agree with the last part. :) don't slip up ok.

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Zorigo
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:20:08 AM

$299, thats like £170. wow.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:24:33 AM

IDK if I will. My favorite games GTA and CALL of Duty are both on the 360..With GTA having DLC and Call of Duty having an amazing online service.

It all depends on the reports I hear about GT5 and Kill Zone 2. As those look promising..If they bring it down I might look into it. But im not willing to pay that much to play just a couple games I cant get on my Elite.

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Qubex
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:55:59 AM

You're lucky your Elite is still running ok :)

Q!

"i aM hOme"

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:36:19 PM

Why thank you. Even tho for some odd reason ( who knows what that could be) I dont think you truly meant it.

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Wage SLAVES
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 1:48:39 AM
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Well quality defines "System Seller" status but I know for a fact that rushing a production exists in other entertainment media. I heard that is what happened to Haze, no?

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Zorigo
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:19:25 AM

haze was both delayed and rushed. it got screwed.

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Ultimadesires
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 1:57:42 AM
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i say get Tekken 6 and FF13 back :)

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www
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 4:56:53 AM

Oh naaaw,then 360 would be gameless this year,let them have it,we already got enough exclusives on our plate.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 6:44:30 AM

^^^Ignorant much?

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coverton341
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:46:31 PM

I don't think it is that ignorant maybe a bit over-zealous but can you really name any AAA titles coming to the 360 this year that are confirmed that are not on the PS3?

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ps92117
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 3:01:19 PM

just ff13 is all I care about, and joshua the 360 without ff13 and tekken6 is almost gameless. you would only have res evil5 and sf4 that could be consider quality. sorry but it is the truth.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 3:26:18 PM

Gameless? This year is going to kick ass for me.

First we will have a new call of duty, then we got 2 episodes for GTA and then we got 2 new Halos coming out. Im going to love it.

But for other titles just look at the upcoming games section at Xbox.

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Banky A
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 4:03:51 PM

Are you serious Josh?
LOLz, what he said was pretty funny

>=]

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:00:18 AM
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As much as I hate to admit it M$ knows how to make a system seller, no it has nothing to do with the game itself but the advertising. Even the most phenomenal of PS3 exclusives will have trouble pushing a system unless they can convince half the world they must have it, and if you watch TV you will see even the Shooter/Graphics whore shows are reticent to say KZ2 is anything special.

That said, back on topic now with the rushing thing, if Sony just stopped announcing games five years before they were ever likely to come out then we wouldn't get this bad rap of being slaves that sit wait on our "delaystation" The truth is most games get delayed, but showcasing them too early causes so many problems it makes us fans appear foolish. And NO, I don't think it's Sony-style to force out gimped games like M$ already has (this is just a fact) I only see evidence of Sony being helpful.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:17:37 AM

Thats my point exactly. You need the titles and the price that people are willing to pay for it.

I cant tell you how many PS2 owners are waiting for it to become more affordable. They also cant afford to lose any more exclusives. As fans of the genre will simply buy that title and a 360 for about half. Especially because the 360 most likely has a more active online service and DLC.

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Zorigo
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:18:07 AM

sony need to learn what advertising is.
@joshua, do you mean ps3 owners?

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Wage SLAVES
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:26:39 AM

Ya got a point Josh. You know I really dont think there is a person that wouldn't chose against the PS3 if the Price was right. Its just BAD timing with the economy and all. They do have a slew of potential PS3 customers that are just waiting but as you said below they are in a catch-22.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:31:38 AM

Thank you finally.

I will always say and stand behind that Sony choose bluray over games this gen. They underestimated the Wii and the 360 and they paid for it.

You cant lose your hottest titles and price it heavily above the competition and expect to win. Now if they come out with some smashing titles, get the word out and drop the price just watch in AMAZEMENT as them things sell. Will Sony do this? That has yet to be seen.

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aaronisbla
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 3:27:23 AM

For sony to have "lost" some of its exclusives, its doing pretty well, considering the fact that they didn't lose it all together since they are still available on ps3.

Lets be real here for a moment josh, both companies have shot themselves in the foot this gen. Neither side did themselves a favor at the start of each consoles life. MS rushing out a console with console killing defects just to beat sony to the punch. Beating them to the punch was a good move, but it doesn't seem like its been all that helpful if you aren't putting out something more reliable. Also, instead of trying to secure exclusive dLC, they should try getting more of their studios to help put out AAA caliber games, cuz from the looks of it, first party games are really in sony's favor.

Sony shot themselves by being waaay too confident imo, and with little advertisement on what matters most, its games. I don't agree with you that they put the system out for blu ray first, games second, but thats just an opinion. But i think it says something that they are behind by 8 million units with a year late head start and a larger price tag. To me, thats not bad at all. Sure, they would sell more if it was reduced ( might even catch up and surpass 360 if they dropped it to $299 )

As far as online is concerned, i think most would agree that the xbox live is better as far as what it offers, but some people like to assume that because of this, psn online is craptacular for online gaming because its free, but i think most people with a brain know that isnt the case. People act as if no one will be online for ps3 games, as if you would enter a CoD4 game and find no one to play. Both services do what i like, that is playing games online. Thats all that matters to me, but one is free.

And yes, we know all about the newer 360s thats built better nowadays, but it doesnt erase the fact that MS made a large mistake, im actually surprised they didn't catch more flak for the debacle

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aaronisbla
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 3:30:46 AM

and when you think about it, eventually third party exclusives was going the way of the dodo bird regardless this gen, too much money that goes into the games for some of them to keep it exclusive unless money is exchanged ( not sure what sony did to keep mgs4 exclusive, but whatever they did, that was smart )

Anyone who is still surprised when a former exclusive goes mulitplatform need to wake up, goes for both systems

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 3:40:57 AM

You make good points. MS should have worked more on hardware and Sony should have worked more on the software aspect.

Both have been working and improving their flaws. But Sonys problem is hurting them more in the way how this economy has changed. Sony couldn't have seen the recession ahead and went all out hardware wise. The tech was expensive and not yet mainstream. Hopefully as costs come down and bluray continues towards the masses we will see the PS3 succeed. Im all for competition. The better the PS3 does the more MS will step up. Its a win/win for us all.

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aaronisbla
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 8:38:54 AM

yeah you do too, i can remember being not too happy with both companies at the start, nowadays its good to see both of them striving to improve on certain aspects that need improving.

Hell, i almost bought a wii at the start.....eww

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 9:54:39 AM

Thanks man you got my respect. The more they fix their issues the better it will be for both.

And you almost bought a Wii? Thank god you dident dude...I know you got bigger balls then that.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:27:43 PM

Bloody hell, stop derailing my threads Josh.

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Zorigo
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:17:35 AM
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if they did this they would be screwing those who already have a ps3, and you don't wanna do that to the people that have helped you so much this far. especialy those day1-60GB-ers

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:18:30 AM

They would be screwing themselves. They cant drop a price on a product that is losing money at its current.

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ps92117
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:53:49 AM

joshua do you mean loosing money because It cost more to manufacture than to sell, or are you also taking into account published software, and microtransitions as well?

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 3:15:44 AM

Im talking about hardware. Sony can make money of software but not enough to balance out the losses at this time.

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ps92117
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 4:15:54 AM

I think that might have been true in the old times when it cost 200 more to manufacture than it would sell but now I think they do make a profit, but either way they unofficially leaked a plan to cut the price, obviously denying it as to not screw them selves.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 6:43:55 AM

It wont happen. Have you seen the loses Sony had?

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karneli lll
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:41:13 AM

now now Joshua, lets not forget that Sony has more than just the playstation brand ( more products = more losses ). Acually i read somewhere that Sony are breaking even on the ps3

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:02:19 AM

I hear it cost $445 or along those lines. They could of dropped production costs by now im not sure.

Another thing I just thought of is will a pricecut anger 3rd party bluray manufactures?

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www
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 5:06:30 AM
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Seriously,did anybody realize MS spending bucks on DLC's more than solid games,GTA4 DLC,FALLOUT3 DLC,COD:WAW DLC,and on the other hand Sony's workin' to get exclusives.
It seems MS are comfortable with their users downloading stuff,when i find downloading on ths ps3 faster and convenient than my 360;on my ps3 i get to see the megabytes n the percentage downloaded whiles 360 i only see the percentage,how the hell am i supposed to know if it's even downloading or not?

On the topic,but for real if Sony could rush exclusives out without too many silly glitches and bugs,i think it's for ps3's betterment.If we could have one exclusive a month,huh,ps3 sales would shoot through the roof.

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aaronisbla
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 8:40:42 AM

are you sure it downloads faster on the ps3? one of the main complaints is how long it takes to download things on the ps3, or so i thought

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 9:55:26 AM

Yeah im abit lost on this one.

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ec0li
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:28:42 AM

Downloading speed on the 360 and PS3 seem on par from my experience. I recently downloaded FEAR2 demo on both and the only differences were that the 360 version(759 MB) is playable after downloading as opposed to the PS3 version(685 MB) needed to be installed to play after downloading. Demo was aight, a little short.

Btw, Res Evil 5 demo is out now for you 360 owners...gonna try it out soon.

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ec0li
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:39:04 AM

Sorry off topic. I'm just following up on Res5 demo. So far, the graphics are stoopid good!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:22:04 PM

Look at what they spent on GTAIV DLC and everyone I know is basically done with the game or even traded it in.

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www
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:32:14 PM

Actually they are kinda on par but am sayin',when i turn backgrounds downloads on, put off the 360 n go to bed,i wake up to find ma 360 off which obviously means ur download is done but i turn it back on and find the download not completed at all,sooo f***ing annoying!

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K ASH
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 6:13:43 AM
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What sony needs to is make sure they give out exclusives like KZ2, uncharetet2 free when they buy Ps3.

On the advertising side i think sony is aware of the xbox install base, they know that most people have xboxes and they wont be able to afford the ps3. So maybe they decided that it would be useless to market their games for a small userbase. Sony is just waitng to get a high install base & thats when we will start to see good ,marketing.they also know that the xbox owners know about the Ps3 and are waiting for the price to be low enough to get a ps3 and its AAA exclusives.
So in the long run Sony might make a lot of mula.

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karneli lll
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 2:19:33 PM

free games? you'd like that wouldnt you?

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Douchebaguette
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 6:21:39 AM
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Sony should make an advertisement of all the future A* exclusives to come in the future, and call it the "somethng somthing group". That could build some hype.

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Veritas Vincit
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 8:43:00 AM
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You never know anymore. Speaking of Tom Clancy's Hawx. When asked in a interview if Takeoff and Landing was going to be in the game because it has not been shown in one video or screen shot, the answer Thomas Simon gave the reporter was "We are working on it" That was back in December. Now Ubisoft says it is not going to be in the game. I think the devs were getting pushed and were told to finish up the game and get it out without adding those details. I mean come on Fly planes but don't take off and land. Sounds crazy.

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DigitalStorm
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 8:43:41 AM
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Ben,

Duff article.

Do you really think after the time and effort already put in, publishers AND developers are going to detriment themselves by bringing a good product to market early.

The only ones that WILL come to market early are the bad ones, and this will be the indicator!

You have been warned.

Ben, more thought please - I expected better.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:23:02 AM

You don't understand. Established names oftentimes sell just as easily as quality in the video game industry, and even if they have to sacrifice a few points in reviews to get that big game out for PS3 sales...

It has happened before on other consoles. Trust me.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:27:39 PM

AHEM Mercs 2 got this treatment, not to push consoles, but they knew people would buy that game and overlooked the bugs. You honestly can't tell me the anal buddies M$ and SE didn't push Last Remnant out early just to beat PS3 to the punch. It is not outside the realm of possibility for pressure to affect games, no matter what the pressure point is.

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Orvisman
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 9:54:41 AM
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@JoshuaAdam360,

First off, let me get this out there, I agree with you that Sony mainly needs a price cut. I've written that numerous times on this site.

As for software, that's not Sony's problem anymore. The PS3 has the software. And except maybe for Nintendo, Sony's internal developers, both first- and second-party, are some of the best out there. They have created numerous classic series over the years.

Sony has already brought back Warhawk, Ratchet & Clank, Socom, and Wipeout; and we know GOWIII and GT5 are coming. We also have the new franchises with Motorstorm, Resistance, Killzone, Uncharted, etc...

What Sony needs to do, however, is get more of those Sony specific franchises on the system: Ico/SOTC, Twisted Metal, Wild Arms, Legend of Dragoon, Syphon Filter, Demolition Derby, Colony Wars, a new full Wipeout ...

Are there any classic Sony franchises the rest of you would want to see on the PS3?

Finally, JoshuaAdam360, I still want to know why you come here if you don't have a PS3 and don't have any interest in getting one?

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:19:13 AM

Did I ever claim I wouldn't get one? Some people like to live in the grey area and view other opinions and insightful information. I own a PS2 and having my 2 favorite franchises (call of duty, GTA) having the better experience on the 360 you would do the same. Now I am interested in KillZone and GT5. As I have been playing GT since the ps1 days (still have the ps1) since I was a lil kid. But im telling you right now I wont pay $400 to figure out later. When they drop the price and give me games that ill like maybe they will have my money. But for right now there is no point.

As for the software getting better. I know it is improving. As I have said earlier in this blog.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:30:09 PM

This isn't a blog :D

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:25:11 AM
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Joshua, as I've said several times before, I don't mind differing viewpoints and we always encourage discussion in our Comments section. It's why we've done so well in that area.

But please, if the majority of your thoughts center around "PS3 is improving but I still don't want one," you have to realize most people HERE are not going to agree. That will cause problems, of course. So either be a little more positive or, I dunno, get a PS3 or something. ;)

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:30:41 AM

haha

That would be great. Ill get a PS3 and all you guys will come down on me saying HA! YOU COULDN'T RESIST ITS SEXINESS!!. I can see it now.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:38:40 AM

Yes, well, you can expect some of that. But I think you've realized by now that many people here will simply respect the decision as they've respected your words in the past.

Just don't ALWAYS try to slide over to the "anti" side. Sometimes, I think your avatar has a subconscious effect on your train of thought. ;)

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:47:32 AM

Yeah yeah;)

Maybe its the rebellion in me. Iv always had controversial thoughts and opinions. I used to read this place from time to time before I joined and thought "man ben is a dick!" but now I understand that we both have a past with each and simply try to get our views across.

I try not to let the inner craziness in me let lose. But it happens sometimes. What can I say. Im a strong hearted gamer with strong views. I see the same in you. Thats why that even tho at times we may hate each other. We still respect eachother.;)

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:54:06 AM

I respect ALL gamers. ...provided I sense the spark of "gamer" in them, and not "fanboy." I think you know that by now, and if I thought you were more of the latter than the former, you wouldn't be here. :)

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karneli lll
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:56:22 AM

As i said before Joshua, you just be you. You're like the Tobi of PSXE.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:59:52 AM

Yeah iv been better and honestly learned to respect alot of the people on here.

Hopefully they will realize to not all Xbox guys are bots that slam the PS3. As the media has made me almost want to slap a ...

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:14:49 AM

I'll keep an eye on them.

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ec0li
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:27:37 PM

Josh, you can get a good deal for a PS3 from Dell. Just google search PS3 + Dell online coupon. There's a link in which u can get the 80gb for 340 bones with free shipping. It's a great deal. I actually got one of my buddies to get a PS3 because of this deal. It ends Feb 1st. You won't regret it. =)

Sorry, I'm not trying to advertise for Dell. I'm just pointing out a sweet deal.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:33:35 PM

Bastards. Trying to tempt me=p

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mk ultra
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 9:18:21 PM

@ Ecoli

Thanks for the heads up. I just got my friend to buy a PS3. :)

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NULL
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:48:54 AM
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Home was rushed to be announced so the first fully public release was a bit bare.

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karneli lll
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:00:06 AM

The only reason why Sony rushed home,was because of public pressure. Feel free to blame the fanboys for that.

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karneli lll
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:07:50 AM
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Ben, have you noticed the 'xbox 360 is done for' articles that have started surfacing? What is up with that ?

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:10:56 AM

I know exactly what that is...Its called fanboy journalism. The same ignorant assholes that called for the Playstations death just the Sony versions.

One would think that rising above it would be the better road. But no lets sink to it..

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:48:36 PM

Just more junk. I'd defend it here, too, if we covered Microsoft stuff.

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 1:24:32 PM

Need a new spot for Xbox nerds?;)

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Robochic
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:31:47 AM
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I don't understand why people are so determined for Sony to lower the price on the PS3, the hardware alone is well worth the $399CDN it's at, you get a blueray player, you get wifi,you get a great amount of storage,free online, great updates,and well everyone here knows exactly what it can do.
Broken down for 360 price and what you are actually paying:
199-256 MB console, with no wifi,no HDMI port,composite only.
299-60 GIG console,with no wifi,does have a HDMI port,no HDMI cables.
399-120 GIG elite console-HDMI port,one month gold for xbox live,wired headset,HDMI cables.
EXtras not included,
WIFI adapter-99.99
60 bucks-live membership
wireless headset (mostly prefered)69.99
double AA batteries since the wireless adapter can't be charged through the console.
Bigger Hardrive if you bought the 199-159.99 for 120 gig

Total for 199 console: 358 before taxes for the console,wifi and the live.159.99 120 gig harddrive if you want to upgrade.
Total for 299 console 458 (wifi and live)
Total for the 399 Elite 558 (wifi and live)
To me you are paying way more for the 360 in the long run than you are for the PS3 just people don;t ever think that they just see the PS3 price all at once going WOW, see M$ has broke it down where you don't reliaze the price you are actually paying is more than the compeitor. for the 80 gig it's 399 for the 160 gig it's 415 PS3 and we again all know what you get in just that box for the PS3 which is more than i can say what you get for the Xbox 360. So if people complain about the price than they are really not looking at the BIG picture and thats what M$ whats you not to look at. They are smart that way. Sony is showing you listen this is the price and it would be more if we made everyone pay individually for all of it. if sony starts lowering they're prices just to make a few people happy then we will be paying a much bigger price in other things for that console and to me i would rather pay the 399 for the console and get all the cool stuff its made of.
OH all totals didn't include the taxes due to all in CDN funds. but you get the picture.

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Orvisman
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:48:41 AM

Listen. We all know this argument. It's true. I agree with it. The PS3 is a great value for its price.

But to Joe Public who is on the fence about buying the PS3, a price cut would probably make them get off the fence and buy a PS3. It's simple.

For the life of me, I don't understand why you people keep argiung against a price cut.

It's almost like you don't want Sony to sell more consoles.

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karneli lll
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:58:28 AM

In a perfect world,people would do some research on consoles, but most people just look at the price,after buying a ps2 for under $200 they just cant imagine paying $500+ for a ps3 (that's right, a lot of people dont know its $400).

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Deleted User
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:32:46 PM

For 199 you get a game console. One that a cheap hard drive you can throw on it and just game.

Thats all alot of people in this hobby want. believe it or not.

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Aftab
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 11:34:55 AM
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I think despite the arguments of larger libraries, or number of exclusives, for the majority of consumers it comes down to a couple of iconic games. Master Chief sold 360's. Kratos and GTA5 will sell ps3's. Sony knows this. And this is why Sony doesn't press. And because they don't press, studio's like Insomniac stay with Sony, while studios like Bungie will leave MS no matter how much they pay them.

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Qubex
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 12:09:11 PM
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I stand by my opinion, and others who have expressed similarly... the PS3 is excellent hardware at its price... it is the my media centre and do everything with it... I can't stress enough its value for money... and if it cost more, I would still buy it... in fact I am buying a second one soon to go into the lounge... I want to purchase it just to help Sony along :) And I manage to convince 3 people at work to purchase one... so total sales in my sphere of influence is six... very proud of that

Q!

"i aM hOMe"

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Banky A
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 4:19:13 PM

You're on rich negro xD

>=]

Disclaimer: The word 'negro' was used at random and wasn't intended to be racist

xD

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GEEZZZYYYY
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 3:55:40 PM
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They shouldn't rush the games, I would rather play quality games then the quantity of games. Why play 7 crap games when u can play 4 amazing games. PS3 i think is doing fine in delivering games. Although they lost some great exlcuisives, it also stole some from the xbox and it also dilived great games sicne it launched. It started with Resistance, warhawk, ratchet, heavenly sword, and uncharted, last year it got, MGS4, SOCOM, resistance 2, littlebigplanet, motarstorm 2, this year we will be getting Killzone, GT5, GOW3, heavy rain, uncharted 2, MAG, Qauntim Therory, and alot more. People keep for getting the sleeper exclusive that should most likely take the crowed by surprise. The space of the games will be great and also the muiltiplatforms games should fill in the droubt. It not like xbox is getting games al year, there geting like just 4 exclusives.

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Kangasfwa
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 7:44:58 PM
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I already bought the PS3. If Sony screws me over by rushing games then there will be hell to pay!

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bamf
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 9:38:15 PM
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To keep the sales momentum after KZ2 release, Sony could drop the PS3's price around in April time and that would keep the sales going for a while.

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ps92117
Monday, January 26, 2009 @ 10:05:16 PM
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with october price drop you set yourself up for a great holiday combined with some american & european aaa titles and good commercial time it would at least take second place in sales. and in japan ,where ps3 already outsells 360 a price drop combined with the release of the heavily anticipated exclusive ff13 and a hell lot of advertisements, followed by the release of yakusa gt5 and versus, which are all very anticipated,you would almost certainly kill 360 in japan

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Landser1
Tuesday, January 27, 2009 @ 10:24:54 PM
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A price cut would boost sales, very true. But it wouldn't be fair, as someone else stated a few comments ago, you do get what you pay for, personally I'd say you even get more, and not just because I'm one of those day-1 60GB daft blokes, who not even doubted of Sony.

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