Breaking News: The PlayStation 3 Didn't Die In 2007

Arvis
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 12:54:21 PM
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You're quite the One Website Army here, Ben. Face it, the media at large doesn't WANT to like the PS3.

Still, keep fighting. We're all behind you.

-Arvis

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rell
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:00:36 PM

yeah I agree, it seems all type of media is involve in the game industry. Some journalist don't even own a console, but if the media here something about sony struggling they blow it out of proportion for instant when sony lost 2.9 billions that spread like wild fire, and the thing alot of gamers was asking which was getting annoying, is sony going out of business and alot of other gamers had to make stand and tell them no. I get tired of the media sometimes. I don't trust alot of gaming journalists rating system because half time they don't know what they are talking. I do trust psxextreme, psu, opm, and ign is ok sometimes better then gamespot.

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AceTatsujin
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:34:07 PM

kick their asses!

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vatossan
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 12:56:48 PM

yea,actually media from usa.im an american,but i know what is good and what is not.
i got a mustang and i dint own it because im an american;i got it because is a good car.

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Gregory Freeman
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:43:39 PM

they should look more like "ps3 gaining ground, will [INSERT CHEAP EXCLUSIVE HERE] save the 360??" theres a quote that you should start to see late 09 early 010(yes, oh ten... its how i say it)

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GamerKid123
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:01:20 PM
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I'm behind you on this one Ben, people need to wake up and check the date.

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jlch777
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:05:33 PM
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yeah keep fighting !!!!^_^

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Kingharris
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:09:47 PM
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You nice article, that needed addressing. "Can MGS save PS3" "Will Sonys exclusives help the dying console" there are STILL sites saying "Whats success for Killzone" There are so many Journalists with lack of knowledge/doubt or serious PS3 hating. Cant they accept its already won?

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:10:20 PM
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Hey ben, you promised that joshua the a**hole would be banned....lets see how honest you really are

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pavlovic
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:11:19 PM
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Did you just read the KZ2 review @ "Total Video Games"?

Yeah, it's amazing to see all those silly comments, and even amazing to see people who truly believes them.

Good work in here.

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Kingharris
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:14:11 PM
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Joshua your little addressing is pointless compare both console stats not how many it has sold and 'attach rate'. This year Sony has already proved the Graphics are Better, there are more exclusives and Blu-Ray is a help. The 360 has done NOTHING wow lets buy FF13 or Tekken, they even had to revamp live it was getting too stale!

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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:48:21 PM

Here we go with the console wars.....again. Man!, every freakin day.

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Godslim
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:18:48 PM

josh in terms of grpahics the ps3 exclusives have the best graphics out just look at uncharted, killzone and mgs4!

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isaya85
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:14:13 PM
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I'm behind you to Ben but hey if they wanna hate let em hate

PSN ID Biggest_GMoney

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:15:06 PM
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Bottomline...people across America hate to acknowledge this....

Ps3 (2yrs in the market)=21M sold
360 (3yrs in the market)= 28M sold

This is with "no games" and at double the price.
Who needs saving now? PWNED

Last edited by Itdoesntmatter on 2/3/2009 1:17:57 PM

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hart_attack
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 1:07:57 AM

very well said

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Orvisman
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 9:41:45 AM

Yep. A seven million gap with one less year under its belt isn't bad.

But the media will always put a negative spin on those numbers because for some reason the PS3 has become the whipping boy of this gen.

It is cool to hate on the PS3, whereas it was cool to own a PS2 last gen. Go figure!

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:16:48 PM
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Yo joshua, go play with you and your buddies miis

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rell
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:15:29 PM

docpain nice comeback miis, M$ need to learn how to create there own first party games and stop buying third party titles. E3 will be interesting this year. I cant wait.

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city96
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:21:10 PM
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7386879.stm
the link takes you to a thing saying that the PS3 has been outseling the xbox since Oct 07
'He said PlayStation 3 had been outselling the Xbox 360 since October last year.

"We have sold more PlayStation 3s throughout Europe than Xbox 360 even though they launched 16 months before us."

Mr Reeves, head of Sony Computer Entertainment Europe, also said 48 million PlayStation 2s had been sold in Europe.

Despite Sony's overhauling of Microsoft in Europe, both firms' sales are a long way behind the Nintendo Wii.

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Sir Shak
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:21:53 PM
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This hate is more prevalent in the american media.

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coverton341
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:25:04 PM

That is true mostly because I think the whole damn country is going on this "keep america american" tangent and hating anything from a foreign company but if the country would stop and look at it from a bigger picture the 360 is made from parts all composed outside of US soil.

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hart_attack
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 1:09:35 AM

ya especially with M$ advertising the hell out of the 360 arcade. and sony advertising basically nothing at all

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Joe_III
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:24:41 PM
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Hrm...didn't you do one of these articles about 28 days ago Ben?

Something you not telling us?

Seriously, tho. the PS3 is doing extremely well outside of the US. Inside the US? Not so great. With the highest base price point by $150, plus the fact that multi-plats almost consistently sell better on the 360 (like World at War for the latest example) makes it appear that the PS3 is a lot worse off than it is.
It has a strong following in other areas, it does provide the most bang for your buck as well. However, many people don't see the VG industry as recession proof -- particularly when it comes to the hardware.

@JoshuaAdam360 Quit the fanboy-ing. The 360 isn't doing so well in japan and europe if you look at the numbers. Plus having the highest attach rate isn't neccessarily a good thing, if you listen to the analysts.

@Kingharris You knock it off too. PSN has had way more major revamps than XBL so far, is free, and still has less Active Unique User IDs than XBL. There is nothing wrong with adding features. Yes, Avatars are a bad knockoff of Miis. But how about the PS Store? Trophies? Sixaxis? Reintroducing Rumble? Nuff said.

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:26:52 PM
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No, the 360 is behind....thats why they use Dvd format, need batteries for controllers, some controllers wired, some systems no hdmi, rrod every 5 minutes, overheating every 30 seconds, louder than a plane, outdated memory card slots...

Can you think 5 minutes in front of your face? Can you honeslty say you think 360 will be in a favorable position 2 yrs from now?

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Joe_III
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:31:22 PM

wait, the ps3 controller doesn't use batteries?

that has to be the STUPIDEST thing I have heard on this site yet.

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Riku994
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:24:46 PM

By batteries he meant like double a's, not ones you dont have to replace.

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Orvisman
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 9:48:23 AM

Yeah.

I've been calling him out from day one!

My favorite post of Josh's was when he realized he had one foot out the door already and Ben's boot was on his posterior and he plays the sympathy card about how his parents died and his girlfriend had a miscarriage.

The Josh hate died down for a time after that.

Now, I don't know if any of that was true; but knowing his TYPE, I wouldn't put it past him to fabricate something like that just to save his own skin.

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coverton341
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:36:27 PM

Yeah he really is ruining the atmosphere here. I am all for someone who has differing opinions but this is ridiculous. He is an anthem for hate here.

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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:42:43 PM

docpain is right!! Ben, you got to do something. See my post 3rd down also.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:55:13 PM

I was here on day 1 when you showed up Josh, you came to start flaming, saw that we had a mature atmosphere here, and then tried to act normal and apologized so that you could try to stow away and mess things up from the inside.

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The Stig
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:55:18 PM

Well said, It seems nearly every article I read, especially ones saying positive things about the PS3, turn into a fanboy battle caused by josh dragging up every little piece of ammo he can find to shoot down the PS3. It seems to me that he never plays is 360 since he is ALWAYS on here with his fanboy BS. I think the psychology of this behaviour would suggest jealosy. He knows that the PS3 is a now a better machine but doesnt want to admit it so tries everything to put it down.

STOP BEING A FANBOY AND BE A GAMER!

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Cavan
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:35:45 PM
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neither is happening, has everyone forgot the figures, the ps3 n x360 both sold the same units during 2008, which means the ps3 is not dying and is doing just as good as the xbox, and this is at twice the price. now the 360 wont have any more price drops, the arcade def wont and i doubt the normal one will either tho the elite one might do, but the ps3 will have price drops this yr, and everyone knows price drops sells systems, the ps3 WAS catching up with the xbox in the first half of the yr when MGS4 dropped, 360 caught back up with the price cut. NO one bought a 360 because of gears 2, ppl only bought it who already had an xbox360, Killzone 2 will help shift systems but not by that much... they will be neck n neck until the late summer when the price drop hits, but until then, they are both doing well, we have a sega megadrive (genesis) super nintendo situation here, where both systems will do well and neither will fail, who sells most will be inmaterial, so long as neither bomb out like the dreamcast did then both companies will be fine and keep bringin out new systems. so stop argueing!.

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:36:54 PM
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Yeah josh, by your logic... Camry is better than a Murcielago cuz it outsells it...

DOUBLE THE PRICE...get a grasp of that for a second....ps3 sells at DOUBLE THE PRICE

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rezenu
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:07:59 PM

Joshua, tell me...does the PS3 has as high of a failure rate as the 360? The funniest thing is, no one knows the failure rate of the 360.

Lucky you that your 360 survived. Not so lucky for others...

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coverton341
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:09:00 PM

3-5% versus 30%

Those are real failure rates right there buddy.

How about leaving things alone that you don't understand

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Phoelix
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:12:17 PM

That 30% was just for a time.

It's lower now.

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Orvisman
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 9:50:12 AM

Still too high of a failure rate.

And how many of those 28 million sold are replacements?

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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:40:32 PM
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Ben.....I second the motion to vote the token Xbox guy off of the site. (Agree with coverton).

This Xbox crap is why I left other sites to come here for information about PLAYSTATION and Sony. Not to hear mindless, flaming, junk from someone that doesn't belong here.

Cmon!!

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Dustinwp
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:41:12 PM
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@JoshuaAdams360 open your Xbox and tell me what you see? Your supporting china more than MS! Just like the people who buy a GM or Ford and think their buying a US product.A lot of GM parts are made in Mexico, so your supporting company's to take jobs over seas. Everything you buy supports a different country. So drop the false I support US products pride.

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Murdi
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:46:14 PM

It's call "globalization" ;)

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:56:59 PM

Josh this article in no way shape or form bashed the 360, nor have any of the others in the past. Now you come to a playstation site where there are tons of playstation supporters and where there will be some fanboys that say stupid things sometimes. The same exact thing happens all the time and many times worse on xbox sites or even multiplatform sites with bias towards the 360. This is a great community of mostly mature gamers and oustanding writers and we want to keep it that way. You do not see the people from here going over to your xbox sites and start console wars. So why dont you get a life, or go on xbox arcade and play with your imaginary friends and leave us the hell alone!!!! I can't believe some of you on here actually believe this dude rented a PS3.

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Dustinwp
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:00:01 PM

I also hate to say it, but Japanese products and "hands down" cars tend to be better quality. Same with the playstation vs Xbox quality issue.

Yes, Toyota is a good product and till GM and Ford can build products of that quality I don't care.

Last edited by Dustinwp on 2/3/2009 2:04:26 PM

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Naga
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:10:56 PM

Hey they're just gaining attention like Joshua just ignore it.

But yeah these articles are stupid and worthless reads with no knowledge of shit

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LCF
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:19:31 PM

It's funny you say that, most of chips in the PS3's motherboard(including the Cell) are fabricated here in the United States. Hell even 7 of the processor on the motherboard of the PS3 are made in Oregon. When you buy a PS3 you are actually helping out American workers.

Microsoft has time and time again been caught out sourcing and continue to do so when the only way this economy to get out of the resession is to have jobs here in America so we can start buying again. Hell even microsoft out source their customer support. We are a consuming nation, how you think China rose to power?. It don't matter, we are in the toilet and the rest of the world will be flushed right down with us. There is your REAL DOOM and GLOOM article.

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Sir Shak
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:41:15 PM
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Josh , why are yo doing this man ? Nowhere in the article was the 360 bashed . Ben was just pointing out that you don't necessarily have to be at the top to be a great competitor .

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Kingharris
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:43:12 PM
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Ben, please get rid of Joshua. You have warned him once and he's not listened. Serve some red hot justice :)

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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:55:23 PM

Yeah....you did warn him and now he's spewing more than ever.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:04:55 PM

I agree, though its like he has a split personality or something. poor kid

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:43:48 PM
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OH Snap, WorldEndsWithMe crunched the numbers and 33% of 28 Million is over 9 million bricked systems, putting PS3 ahead with just a 2% fail rate. Teh numbers work if each of those bricks is only one RROD and most have had 2-3 before the warranty ran out or M$ refused to fix it again. So what do you think about that?

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Sir Shak
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:49:29 PM

So we are talking in third person now ? shak_44 thinks this guy could have a point here .

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Arvis
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:08:46 PM

Arvis thinks that 2% for the PS3 constitutes rounding up...

-Arvis

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:55:44 PM

2%? Perhaps, think I got that # from Ben...

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Robochic
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:49:59 PM
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@ joshua

All the profit they made from the PS2 is gone because of the PS3. - you need to understand that you're precious M$ hasn't even made a proft with either of their consoles, sh** they are so in the hole with the 360 right now due to the issue of the 3 red lights issue. No company who makes a console ever really make a profit from the Hardware, its all in the games and accessories.
Info on how much they have spent in repairs due to this problem : cost Microsoft up to $1.15 billion and counting
is where i got it from.
http://venturebeat.com/2008/09/05/xbox-360-defects-an-inside-history-of-microsofts-video-game-console-woes/-this

They lost almost every exclusive they have. Hell MGS is about to go to 360.-where are you getting this info is complete confusing, Konami has already annouced they are not releasing it on the xbox 360
http://kotaku.com/222635/konami-denies-metal-gear-solid-4-on-360
http://kotaku.com/340097/mgs4-360-rumor-smashed-yet-again
even on the official website it states on the blogs that they are not looking towards that way for MGS4.

@docpain
Completely agreed!

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leethedevil
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:50:03 PM
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Not this again. Personally, I think both systems are doing very well given the amount of competition. However, I think PS3 is doing very well considering its more than twice the price in some markets and given Sony's lack of advertising. If its only 8million behind despite being more expensive and despite little media presence, just think how well it will do when the prices drops and Sony learns how marketing strategies work! I have to say that most of my mates want a PS3 but are STILL holding off until it hits below £200 in the UK.

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Kingharris
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:52:46 PM
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Lol, £200 in the UK. No chance, i reckon £239 at the least!

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leethedevil
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:12:17 PM

I think you are probably right with that price but then Game were offering a PS3 with LBP, Motorstorm PR and Resistance 2 for 299 last year. Mind you, software is cheaper to produce. Sorry to sound like a marketing/economics geek. But the early adpoter phase for PS3 has been longer because of its cost but now Sony has dropped manufacturing costs, it can now afford to advertise, which means next phase is mass market appeal. Its basic marketing/r'n'd cycles. Bring on the advertising. I just remember all the classic PS2 ads (especially the one with the birth to death one).
Remember Xbox has nowhere to go price-wise. Hell, if it gets any cheaper Id love to have one as well as a PS3 so I can enjoy Halo, GoW, Left 4 Dead. Urm, what else? Maybe Crackdown and Dead Rising

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JasperLoons
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:54:59 PM
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Just wanted to say I've been lurking here for a few days trying to decide whether to make it a regular news source.

Well last night I went on a rant that was shockingly similar to this. Seriously, I'm starting to wonder if you tapped my phone... Anyway, you've sold me, glad to be here.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:00:09 PM

Welcome to the Big Show Jasper, grab an Avatar and sit on down.

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rell
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:43:43 PM

jasper welcome psxextreme, the site to get your number 1 playstation source lol.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:03:52 AM

Welcome to PSXeXTREME!

They call me Wizard, because everytime I touch a dualshock3, MAGIC happens!

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:57:10 PM
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Thats right..i forgot to mention that...Sony is doin this with almost no advertising..Theyve only made like 2 commercials.

Also dont forgot that this is also with Gamestop employees openly and mindlessly teling every single customer that the 360 is god and the ps3 has "no games" ...as if having every single high school in America as loud fanboys wasnt enough for microsooft

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Ivan_PSP
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:58:55 PM
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The PlayStation 3 is doing great no matter what anyone says it has the best and most exclusives all top quality. Also it has the best feature a truly must have.

My PSN ID: Ivan-

Ben:
My 2009 wish is to see JoshuaAdam360 ban from this website.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 1:59:27 PM
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Record number of posts this time I bet:

(Insert Spartacus reference here)
"I am Playstation3"

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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:04:21 PM

Nah....check out the Killzone 2 review posts. 246 last time I checked.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:54:55 PM

I'll bet one of the overblown sites picks up Ben's article though, they always do when it's controversial and makes a solid point.

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:00:56 PM
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Have you guys noticed the sick amount of microsoft advertisements in the 2 websites that gave kz2 a b+

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The Stig
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:02:13 PM
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It seems nearly every article I read, especially ones saying positive things about the PS3, turn into a fanboy battle caused by josh dragging up every little piece of ammo he can find to shoot down the PS3. It seems to me that he never plays is 360 since he is ALWAYS on here with his fanboy BS. I think the psychology of this behaviour would suggest jealosy. He knows that the PS3 is a now a better machine but doesnt want to admit it so tries everything to put it down.

STOP BEING A FANBOY AND BE A GAMER!

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The Stig
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:14:38 PM

Most psychologists will tell you that this type of behaviour is because of jealosy. You may not realise it but subconsciously your mind builds a defence mechanism, in your case flamin the PS3.

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:07:37 PM
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In 2.5 years...uncharted, heavenly sword, resistance, mgs4, lbp, motorstorm 2, kz2

In 3.5 years....gears of war, halo, gears of war, halo, gears of war, halo, (then they mention a mid level gm or two), fable 2, forza, then right back to gears of war, halo, gears of war, halo...after my 3rd rrod, i dont miss halo, gears of war, halo, geats of war

Everybody mostly plays call of duty anyway.

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Dustinwp
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:08:10 PM
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@JoshuaAdam360 same could be said of you. You need George W Bush knee pads! By the way my wife is Asian! Thank you very much.

Last edited by Dustinwp on 2/3/2009 2:09:44 PM

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rezenu
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:10:16 PM
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Good God, who is this Joshua guy? I have never met someone so inclined to destroy the PS3 through his/her comments in my entire life?

Dude, they are both great consoles. Now shutup already.

And on top of that, he sounds racist.

Last edited by rezenu on 2/3/2009 2:10:43 PM

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:14:46 PM
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33% largest failure rate in consumer electronics history...joshua, lie to me and tell me you dont know a handful of people with rrod'd systems...i dare you

PS forums are for issues...people go there for help...nobody is gonna post when nothin is broken...thats like saying "the whole world is sick, just look at a hospital"

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:21:05 PM
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If you guys fall for this joshua apology AGAIN, shame on you for being so gullible...hes done this poor me act before...he was warned about his icon and his stupid comments b4, he got straight for 5 mins and now hes at it again with the very 2 things he was warned about...he is pissing all over Ben's face at this point.

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Godslim
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:22:52 PM
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o josh get lost....your a 360 fan boy on a ps3 site i hope u get the rrod! honestly last year was year of ps3 in terms of the great games we had....what did 360 have oh yeh just gears loool!

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:24:01 PM
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Omg just look at his wording...he sounds like an 8 yr old problem child with a hidden agenda..."im sorry mom and dad, i love you all very much and i am sorry for everything" with lower lip sticking out

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:05:49 PM

Don't mind him, he's just drunk.

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tanner1
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:26:36 PM
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The 360 is the only thing Bill Gates hasnt made profit on & that is a fact

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:27:47 PM
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WHY do i bring you up? Cuz you are single handedly ruining a perfectly good website...2 of my friends have stopped checkin the site thanks to you.( Ben, Arnold you listening?) This is when I realized i had to do something.

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GoldenShadow
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:30:36 PM
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I think that I am done posting comments, I will read the articles, but it has become tiring to have to read 107 comments where every other comment is a console bash. The whole reason I started posting here was because of the lack of fighting between immature fanboys.

Anyways, keep up the good work Ben, I always enjoy your articles.

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:55:48 PM

GoldenShadow, do not let this raging immature idiot do this to you. He will get himself banned anytime now, or maybe once he hits puberty he will find something better to do.

I for one would miss your posts!

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:31:17 PM
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You sound like the lil kid from Home Alone...nobody is falling for your im sorry act again..you were warned, you violated, you're doomed...bye

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:34:15 PM
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People lik Goldenshadow is the reason why i had to stop josh, the human rrod....even though the comments #s are higher, its all empty thanks to half of it being josh ranting....nobody wants to read that sh**

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Diggity Dan
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:41:08 PM
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Why do you guys even care what he says? If you like your console, you wont give a **** what anybody else thinks. Why do you think he does it?.. Because after he's done playing Gears of War (assuming his console is working that day), he realized that there's nothing else he can do.

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Diggity Dan
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:45:53 PM
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And I hate to break it to you guys, but there is a *really* good chance that MGS4 goes to the Xbox someday. It's not Hideo's call entirely. But so what?? It's only fair that they have a 2nd game worth playing besides Gears.

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:58:31 PM

there's a really good chance ANY exclusive goes anywhere...that's just called business

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:52:47 PM
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Josh you bashed the PS3 like 7 times on the 5th post of the article. I tolerated you before, and even respected some of things you had to say up until recently. But today, on all of these responses to the console war you started yourself, you made a complete and utter fool of yourself. Enough said!

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 2:59:46 PM
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Okay, that's it- JoshuaAdam360 is gone and he's not coming back. I apologize to all for letting him infect this place as long as he did. It's my conclusion that the 360 fanboy is the most ignorant, most hostile, and most problematic fanboy in history, and I'm not standing for it anymore.

We at PSXE take pride in our ever-growing community of great gamers. We're laid back and many are very informed. That's the way it's going to stay so say goodbye to the hostile environment that idiot caused. I have deleted all his posts in this topic and most all the ones responding to it (sorry to those who made the competing posts), and I've deleted his account.

Back to the PSXE we all know and love. :)

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 2/3/2009 3:00:16 PM

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:04:14 PM

aww man.... i was just about to comment josh on how nuch of a snot nosed fanboy he is, lol

oh well.....

thanks Ben for getting rid of that idiot and for another great article :)

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The Stig
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:05:20 PM

Thank you

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rell
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:22:10 PM

Even though I don't like the 360, I don't go on xbox forums and bash the console or the wii, I stick with sony all the way even though times is hard with this economy I will stick with sony thick and through thin. To some gamers my consider me a fanboy but I don't bash a console like josh do.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:25:02 PM

Sorry Ben,for supporting him. I just wanted the war to end but now i see xbots will never mature.

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LightShow
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:29:44 PM

I wonder what it must be like to be banned from a site and have everyone glad that you're gone...

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kidgrid
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:43:39 PM

THANK YOU BEN! I hate to say it but i started to get sick of this site because of him.

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LCF
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:28:52 PM

Amen Brother.

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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:56:44 PM

Thank you. Let PSXE Freedom ring......

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blitz30952
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:40:27 PM

Finally! His comments were starting to get ridiculous....

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moose88
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:31:11 PM

NOOO! I didn't get to read his comments .... Now i'm going to have to watch 'Role Models' again to get my good belly laugh :))

Bye Josh - maybe we'll see you again when you're all growed up ;)

I enjoy this site so much - there is a lot of love in the room

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eLLeJuss
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:47:08 PM

Josh obvioulsy just wanted some attention. I'm so glad he's gone

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ps92117
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:08:15 PM

lol he is probably reading this now, oh and what about the spartan kid. Well now we will be able to discuss with less biased, because we won't need to defend the ps3.

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Jed
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 11:11:06 PM

In the words of ThreeDog, "Praise Jesus, praise Jesus!!!"

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Buckeyestar
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 9:21:03 AM

Huzzah!

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Orvisman
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 9:53:39 AM

@Ben,

More than those damn Segaholics in the DC era? I don't know about that. I believe many of them are one and the same!

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PS3_Wizard
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 9:54:42 AM

Well I'll be...

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cazzy07
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:01:08 PM
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@ josh.ok this is the best way to settle the dispute.you want a reason why the ps3 is better josh i can give u one its called QUALITY.like ben had mentioned in this topic the shitboxplease fix me had how do i put this hardware malfunction lol i mean rrod.a strange and rare s t d for a gaming system to have dont ya think josh?it sucked peeps into buying multiple xbox systems.even the contoller had a high scam success rate.like first coming out wit a battery opperated one then finally got it right with a chargeable battery pack adapter.if that aint a scam then i dont know what is.a few more things real quick blue ray player free if u buy the ps3 not a bad deal.home still in the works but coming along great.theres more im just done proving my point and that point is QUALITY

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LividFiction
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:29:28 PM

I propose changing the name Red Ring of Death (RROD) to Red Ring of Fail (RROF). My brother and I have called it this for a few months now.

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LordRaoh
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:06:32 PM
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good article.

thanks for the read.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:08:14 PM
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*Breathes sigh of relief* Now where was I?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:08:46 PM
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And please, everyone...no more comments directed towards a non-existent member. ;)

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Arvis
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:11:38 PM

Aw, man, but I...! I think I'm gonna miss... um... wait, who were we talking about again?

-Arvis

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pavlovic
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:12:22 PM

lol...

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:10:04 PM
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Josh, i pwned you from my iphone 3g...didnt need a keyboard to slap you around

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:10:06 PM
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lol, now josh can get back to his "job" where he supposedly makes a crap load of money for slacking around at work looking up articles on the internet

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blitz30952
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:38:01 PM

Hey Qwarktast1c, not only do I agree with your comment but I'm also lovin' the pic of Captain Qwark man, he was crack up in R&C3: Up Your Arsenal :P ... Haven't played R&CF:ToD yet but hear nothing but good things about Ratchet's latest adventure :D

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:31:37 PM

thanks dude

and you should totally play R&CF:ToD
thats one game that you should not miss ;)

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rell
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:10:31 PM
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josh give it a rest, lets just talk about playstation games

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FLYING_APE
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:11:38 PM
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joshua360 said: i'm sorry for offending everyone, ive made alot of friends here.

what a fuc*ing pu**y LOL LOL

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Arvis
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:02:32 PM

*laughs at name*

Wow, didn't think you disliked him so much...

-Arvis

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:03:47 PM

honestly, i LOL'ed at the name

Last edited by aaronisbla on 2/3/2009 5:03:57 PM

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PS3_Wizard
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 9:56:41 AM

Is that flying ape?

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PS3_Wizard
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 9:57:08 AM

Is that flying ape?

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King James
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 6:54:31 PM

I actually laughed out loud at ur name.

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Orvisman
Friday, February 06, 2009 @ 10:56:57 AM

Same icon as Flying_Ape

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Dustinwp
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:23:58 PM
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Thank you,Ben.

@Qwarktast1c love the avatar. God I love Ratchet and Clank games! Their like video game crack.

Last edited by Dustinwp on 2/3/2009 3:27:26 PM

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:38:07 PM

thanks dude

and your right about ratchet and clank; R&C is like one of my top favorites on playstation

can't wait for the next one! if it comes out this year, it'll be another game that will draw people to the PS3 in 09

btw,
captain qwark is the man!!! lol

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artson1966
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:28:43 PM
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Man you mean I wasted those words... Thank you for the funeral of Josh360 may he rest in peace, unlickly, but we can be optimist anyway...lol

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:31:33 PM
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Any more off-topic comments will get deleted, guys. Just let it go. :)

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ralph89
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:34:44 PM
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Finally my second post on this site! Am always looking for news about Sony and Playstion brand for 2 years now in this site! But never got a chance to post a thing! lol. Oh well, I've been busy. Great article by the way.

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rell
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:35:40 PM
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I hope 09 is the year of those who doubted ps3 success will rethink there way about the ps3. I got a feeling that E3 is going to be hugh this year bigger then tgs09, just my opinion. Any gamers planning to go to E3 this year?

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DGo8
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:36:45 PM
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i used this site for a while now...but only signd up few months back and i must admit when i came on here everyday to check any playstation news...josh really annoyed me so im glad he's gone lol...

So as i said i only jst recently signed up really so i guess..

Wheres my welcome?

My Names Danny By tha way people

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:52:51 PM

Hi Danny! Welcome to a friggin AWESOME site.!

PSN: OneOfBlood
(Ill be the one wreckin' COD4)

Last edited by Wage SLAVES on 2/3/2009 4:54:47 PM

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Troy Powers
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:41:55 PM
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Damn, PS3's momentum is really bothering some people.

Anywayz, I saw a video over at Yahoo Games today where they quoted Patcher as saying he doesn't expect the PS3 to catch up to the 360 in sales until 2014.

2014?!!? That's crazy.

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NightHawk17
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:14:53 PM

Does anyone really believe patcher?

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AceTatsujin
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:39:31 PM

if the prices don't change and games stay the same, yea.

but PS3's got BIGGER exclusives, MORE exclusives than both Wii and 360, and once the price gets cut people will eat it like mad. I hope they do a 45nm chip inside, make a slim-version of it and sell the damn thing at 250 US dollars, now THAT is not expensive and I'd own like 3!

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coverton341
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:02:31 PM

I would love for them to put a 45nm chip in these things have you read the specs on the performance of the high end chips?

Monumental!

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artson1966
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:42:07 PM
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Man I can't wait till Thursday evening, I will finaly get my paws around my Dual controller and play the long awaited demo of Killzone 2... I have been reading reviews about it all day and am stoked.. even a few As Ben calls them Phony reviews to get web traffic our giving pretty good scores...This game will push systems, I hope more then MGS4 as good as that game is and after playing several times. I have this feeling that Killzone will out preform it.....

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artson1966
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:44:03 PM
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Welcome Danny!!!!! my name is Robert PSN:artson

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artson1966
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:46:14 PM
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Hey Troy:: When has Pratcher ever been Right about anything.. I take what he predicts with a grain of salt...mostly I disreguard it entirely....

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rell
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:51:44 PM
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Good post ben about the ps3 didnt die yet, I find it funny that some media journalist want sony to fail why is it so much hate towards sony, is it because of the ps3 is expensive or don't have alot of third party exclusive, I realise M$ third exclusive won't last long because third party exclusive I take everything with a grain salt now in days third party developers change all the time, thank god for first party exclusive sony will do good this year . I understand that this economy is struggling, but at the same time 20 to 60 inch hdtv are selling really well and they are expensive if u want a top of the line hdtv. Im not dictating on who should spend there money. Some media today go by hearsay and not do any research on the ps3.

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DGo8
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 3:52:18 PM
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ohh and i forgot my PSN is... D-G-90

Cheerz for tha welcome Rob i'll add you looking forward to getting familar with you all...and Benfrom what i seen of your writing skills your top class !

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:01:03 PM
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Okay so, seriously, can someone give me a better reason than price that all media outlets seem to hate on PS3? Ben's article demolished the naysayers with facts alone, so please tell me just why every site, store, and tv show is filled with xbots?

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The Stig
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:13:14 PM

Microsoft paid the right people to praise the xbox and it spread. And cos they have their dirty fingers in alot of pies. Evil, but good strategy.

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:49:00 PM

as a matter of fact i cannot tell you any other stupid, conceited, uninformed, and or misguided attempt at bashing the PS3 other than price

i don't understand how people can just hate on it for no reason when all the REALLY have on 360 is Gears, mass effect #1, halo, and 1 or 2 other games. anymore??? doubtful

oh yeah, star ocean and lost odyssey, i wanna play those, but will probably never get to on a PS3 anyway :(

maybe its just cause i like the franchises that are on PS better.....

ah fanboyism..... it sucks

(i hate halo btw, lol. but gears is sweet)

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Jordahn
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:03:56 PM
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I'm a gamer, and SONY's 1st & 2nd party efforts primarily targets the gamer first and then the mainstream.

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Fabi
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:05:58 PM
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@Arvis - This is off subject, but I find it hilarious when people put stuff like "-Arvis" at the end of their comment, like if we couldn't recognize you from your avatar and your name that is in BOLD letters.

Sorry, pointless comment.

@DGo8 - Welcome Danny, hope you have some good stuff to say. Every article is turning into a back and forth pile of fanboy crap.

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Arvis
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 1:15:26 PM

The sign off is part of my online identity. Makes my posts just that much more recognizable...

-Arvis

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Fabi
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:07:02 PM
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@Ben - I don't think we're ever gonna see the end of this... Just the other day I read an article on Yahoo! that said something like "Goodbye PSP"

Horrible.

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Nynja
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:08:32 PM
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Preach on brother man!

**Side note; wow lots of comments!

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DGo8
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:19:30 PM
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@Fabi

Cheers for tha welcome..dont worry i'l have some good things to say..

The other day i saw something that made me larf..they said tha psp is..well in my own words basiclly on its way out..i dont agree i think psp is a great machine..but it always seems to get ignored..or isit just me ??

Last edited by DGo8 on 2/3/2009 4:21:08 PM

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The Stig
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:26:00 PM

The PSP is an amazing piece of technology. Its because of hackers that developers are reluctant to make games for it.

Last edited by The Stig on 2/3/2009 4:30:01 PM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:38:27 PM

If PSP is in so much trouble then why is there buzz about a PSP2? I don't get these people who hate, I mean honestly it's not like Sony is SquareEnix.

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Blaiyan
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:29:02 PM
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The people don't care about good news :(

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NoSmokingBandit
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:31:53 PM
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When the Ps3 takes the lead all of the media outlets will act like they were behind it all along.
Good article, Ben, but its not us that needs convincing :P

Last edited by NoSmokingBandit on 2/3/2009 4:31:59 PM

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blitz30952
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:29:15 PM

Yeah, I also have a funny feeling that this will happen as well...

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shaydey77
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 4:55:54 PM
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'what I told everyone would happen is starting to happen'.

Self praise is no praise Ben!!
Still have to agree with you 100percent!
Also the PS3 still costs more than the 360 so im still surprised at these numbers..imagine if the 360 was reliable and we could see some real figures..

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LCF
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:16:25 PM

Like I stated before, I think the user base of the X360 is inflated because of repurchases of defective X360s. I should know I help contribute as many others have. Well my Elite will last a very long ass time cause there is no more use for it. So I better unplug it before the power brick causes a fire.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:19:49 PM

9 million busted bricks by my calculation.

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PS3_Wizard
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:06:57 AM

If the 360 WAS more reliable, alot of us PS3 owners might have opted for it instead. In previous posts, I've seen many PSX community members that said they got a PS3 after their 1st or 2nd 360 bricked.

I know some of us would have brought both systems (me included) but truth is most people don't have that kind of money these days. And since the 360 was the first outta the gate, imaging how many of us would have bought the 360 since we wouldn't have heard of the RRoD!

Think about it...The Wizard has spoken.

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yzzlthtz
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:04:48 PM
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the ps3 hate is not just in the media - it spread through the US gamer elite like wildfire. gamestop managers, industry employees, you name it were poo-pooing the ps3 early on and praising microsoft. it was like a crazy dream where everyone suddenly started wearing bellbottoms and disco dancing.... i got the cold shoulder numerous times at a video game party for bringing a ps3 in 2007 (we brought all 3 consoles together for people to check out).
i'd say the ps3 has done pretty well in spite of its poor image, though i understand the early criticism - the ads and previews boasted all kinds of things that just weren't available yet.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:07:28 PM
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Holy shit, it seems i missed a lot while at lunch for my birthday. It reminds me of when a huge battle has been waged and all the remains are the victors and a lot of rubble.

On topic,why is it that whenever someone mentions the fact that its only behind by 7 million and the year late start, its often disregarded?

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NightHawk17
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:33:18 PM

Happy Birthday man, but people ignore it because they dont like to accept facts

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coverton341
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:05:41 PM

Happy Birthday mine is this Thursday.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:21:18 PM

Happy... oh you know, now here's 60 bones go by yourself a new game :)

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aaronisbla
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 12:37:19 AM

thanks guys, now about that 60 bones, could be useful for helping me pay for kz2

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Frenchy17
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 4:24:06 AM

A very happy Birthday to you Aaron, its good timing with Killzone around the corner!

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PS3_Wizard
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:08:55 AM

*punches Aaron (number of age) times*

birthday licks homie, keep ya head up.

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Orvisman
Friday, February 06, 2009 @ 11:01:28 AM

Happy Birthday Aaron!

Happy Birthday Coverton!

Mine was Monday. Seems like we have a lot of Aquarians here.

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:20:14 PM
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I'll tell you why PS3 is rejected in American public opinion...

Microsoft has almost every Gamestop employee around the country begging people to buy 360s. They also have seemingly every high school kid in the country spreading information just like Josh does. The younger crowd is a lot more outspoken on the subject of gaming. PS3 users don't speak out as much and take the "why should I advertise for Sony" approach. Some of you admitted a month ago that you were embarrassed to bring up gaming in public. The word of mouth about masterpieces like LBP and Uncharted, don't spread as much. The hardcore gaming industry is becoming more and more FPS-heavy and Microsoft was able to hype and advertise Halo and Gears of War so much. The average person is led to believe, "wow, so many great games" powered by the ads on the side of buses and the voices of the joshuas...it spread like wild fire...Snowballed to the point that some people buy a 360 "just because all my friends have it" and they wish to play online with them, more word of mouth.

Lastly, and not least...the PS3 was judged as being a joke back in 2006-2007 as if it were something that's come and gone...the stigma of having "no games" has stuck till this very day...The PS3 released when the 360 was releasing its high profile games after its first year of being a joke...What killer exclusives did the 360 have in year 1? The PS3 was dubbed as a $600 box with no games and no online, as if its something that has come and gone like old news, something unchangeable...things we heard at the time, "cant believe you have to exit game to text, cant believe you cant background download, cant believe no achievement points, cant believe no rumble, etc)...NOBODY likes to be wrong, so it is hard to get someone who made this claim, to admit it has come a long way...just like PS2 in year 2-3 of existence...

Furthermore, early PS3 game development compromised mostly of ported games from a 360 build because PS3 architecture was not picked up right away by the devs. The average consumer once again judged and determined "hmmmm, the ps3 is supposed to be more powerful, why does it look the same and (sometimes) run worse?"...Another stigma still existing today, big contributor to this is EA Sports...blu-ray abilities were finally put to use when MGS4 released, we see it now, and we'll surely see more of it in the years to come...

This feels almost like a crazy conspiracy that's going on. I probably shouldn't care as much but it truly rubs my spine to see flawed/biased information spread out to the masses like this.

Lastly, the most compelling story for media outlets to report is "the Giant is dethroned!!" and Sony was viewed as the Giant when it released an incomplete PS3 for $600 in late '06. Looking for as much dirt as possible from a giant and reporting it is what attracts the public. It was breaking news in late '06 about how much the $600 PS3 was garbage with no games, and no functionality.

Last edited by Itdoesntmatter on 2/3/2009 5:32:42 PM

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AceTatsujin
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:40:57 PM

his post is true.

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:53:17 PM

360 may have halo and gears

but PS3 has resistance and killzone :)

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big6
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:24:34 PM
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Ben, regarding your line:
"I still hold to the theory that several million of those 360 owners aren't "new;" they're simply buying another 360 after their console died."

I thought I was the only person who thought this. LOL!
I have a friend who has gone through 4 Xbox360s, because they were all modded, and he had to buy new ones after they RROD. He also has an unmodded Elite, which he plays sparingly on Live.
So, yeah, one guy and 5 Xboxes kinda skews the numbers a bit, don't you think? lol

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:35:28 PM

You would think that 360 game sales would suffer considering it is so easy to mod and to download the games off the net. Its DVD format, my lil brother could make and sell burnt 360 games.

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Jed
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 11:03:57 PM

I have been saying the same thing for months.
I swear that HALF, yes 50%, of the 360s I sell at gamestop are to people that are buying their 2nd or 3rd system.

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tanner1
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:30:32 PM
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About time Ben, he was bringing the site down, he had enough warnings.....numpty

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rell
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:03:24 PM

hey tanner1 your picture is funny but also can be quite scary a little bit. lol

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big6
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:37:25 PM
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Oh BTW, I'm new on here as well... another "long time reader, but new to posting here" dude.
Hi all! =)

I've actually been a gamer for a looooong time. I mean, this console war brings me back to the old "Atari vs. Commodore64" wars of old. And, "SEGA vs. Nintendo", etc.
It's just that, now, there is an easier outlet for regular folks to voice their (fanboy) thoughts - thanks to the Internet. Whereas, before, it was just an argument between you and your buddies in school and whatnot.
Personally, I've owned just about every console that has ever come out, since Pong. (with the exception of the Saturn, Jaguar, and N64)
I currently have all 3 consoles, because I am a gamer. I'm about the GAMES, and whatever console it's on, then I'll get that console to play the game.
Not that I'm made of money or anything, but I don't think consoles/games are that expensive, when you consider kids these days paying $600 for an iPhone when they first came out. How is that any different?

As for games, I would have to say, hands-down, the PS3 is the console I play the most. MGS4 is my game of last year. I'm still playing Gears2 at the moment. While very good, it does not come close to MGS4; not in graphics, nor animation. (my own opinion, of course)
I heard all this hype about Left4Dead, and tried it out a few weeks ago. I give the single-player campaign a resounding, "meh". I think the game is really meant to shine in co-op mode. Regardless, I thought the movement of your character was just TOO FAST and floaty. Though, I've never heard anyone make this complaint before, which I find weird. Are we playing the same game??

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rell
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:42:03 PM

sega vs nintendo days, I remember those console wars, it wasn't as bad as it is today some gamers are getting hostile with other gamers this next gen console war, it gotten so bad that even some game retailer employees are getting personal with customers . Game retailer employees aren't suppose to get in console war with customers, thats why I don't shop at gamestop anymore or ebgames, everytime I ask a question about the ps3 some laugh, some lie about not having a game instock. The last straw was when I was about to pre-order kz2 and one of the employees said u sure want to be buying this corny overrated game I was like what are talking about and he said kz2 is trash and I ask him how so, his response is he claim he played the beta and compare it to cod4 rip off . So I told him the customers service sucks at that gamestop, I notice alot of gamestop are xbox fanboys I know not all gamestop employees are like this but these are the closes I can get to. Why can't they show the ps3 love.

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Frenchy17
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 4:25:35 AM

Welcome Big 6, good post, reminds of those days as well!

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PS3_Wizard
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:14:50 AM

Welcome to PSXeXTREME!

They call me Wizard cuz when I touch a dualshock3 MAGIC happens!

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ThatDude
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:46:37 PM
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Hey, why was my comment removed? Was I not praising enough? I said you had a point (a very good one), but that you were doing the very thing that you complain about others doing to the PS3 to the 360 and, especially, to the Wii. Double standards?

It's very relevant if you want people to listen to your points. I'm not bashing (much); I'm just trying to help. :/

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DeadReaper
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 5:59:43 PM
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This article couldnt be more true. Xbox fanboys and fanboy sites forget 2 things when throwing out the purchase numbers of the 360 compared to the PS3, 1. (like the article says) i'm betting that number is skewed by RROD replacements, and 2. the 360 had a 1 year jump on the PS3. If the systems had been released on the same day, those numbers would of been alot closer OR reversed. I would like to see microsoft release ther numbers minus replacements and the extra year. 360 fanboys need to face the facts, the PS3 aint goin no where anytime soon.

PSN:DeadReaper

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Robochic
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:42:03 PM
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@docpain

Wow so true. I live in Canada i use to work for Ebgames, the one i worked at we weren't allowed to view our opion on which console is better we were only allowed to inform the customer the specs of each console and inform the customer it's up to them which one they would want. I like my mangers approach on that cause now the same one i go to they still are like that but theirs this one employee, man he's such a xbot and he'll tell customers that the ps3 is an over priced door stop, i've several times complained about that individual i don't think anyone who works for any type of gaming store should have a one sided opion on the consoles.
I also use to work for the call center for xbox and let me tell you i was their when the 360 launched at first when i heard about it,it was appealing but over the 2 years i was there it took a toll on me cause of getting calls from customers who were on either their 2nd console or more and it was heart breaking, not saying everyone has that experience with their consoles but when you get the same issue over and over again call after call you actually start to break down and feel for these people and want to help but are unable too. I have several friends still there and not one of them own a 360 they just work there for the money :) most actually only pc game.

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:54:57 PM

The sad part about it is that it is SO widespread and nobody gives a damn about it. This goes beyond gaming, beyond fanboyism. It's unethical and most PS3 users have a "whatever, I don't work for Sony approach".

PS3 users are afraid of being called fanboys. 360 don't care about being called fanboys and in fact encourage it. THAT, my friends, is the main culprit behind the sick disparity in terms of public opinion between the 2 systems across the USA.

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www
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:51:48 PM
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Heeeeeeyyyyy!!

I just got the ps3 version of rrod,i turn it on,it comes green then amber then red,n the red keeps on flashin'.Some say it's a hard drive problem,others.....it's a system failure.

Wat's more,tried to remove the darn blue mutha-effin'-screw holdin' the HDD n it gets stripped n no screw driver itw can turn it anymo'.
60GB ps3 btw,only bout 1 n half years old.

I got it opened,n i don't see dust but sand packed in,real dirty.
Imma fill u in when i sweep off the mud in it and assemble it.ANY IDEAS wat i culd do??
Don't start laughin' cause i got a spare 80GB.

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www
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:55:30 PM

Oh on topic,pay the haters no mind,every good thing has more haters than lovers!

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:56:33 PM

to tell you the truth, my 1st PS3 died on me

the disk drive wouldnt read ANYTHING

i sent it in and about 2 weeks later, i got a factory reconditioned one that is still goin strong!!!

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Aftab
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:13:08 PM

Pretty much every posting about HD replacement mentions the screws and how you have to be careful about what kind of screw driver you use. And I don't what's up with people's ps3's getting dusty. Mine is two years old, and I don't even clean it off, and it still looks brand new. I keep it on a raised plastic surface (some exercise step block that sits next to my tv), and I try not to play more than an hour or two on end, about 10hrs tops in a week; and I don't leave it on when I'm not using it. So, I guess, the environment and your activity can make a big difference.

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coverton341
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:19:30 PM

I had the same thing happen to me minus the dirt and sand thing. Damn man you keep it in a hut in the desert? But seriously I found that if I turn it off from the back switch for about an hour or two and then turn it back on it will power up but I can hear that the fan is not blowing. The system will shut down after about ten minutes. Meanwhile my 360 is still going strong and I have had lots of time to play Lost Odyssey. I am worried it is going to RROD on me soon though seems the luck streak I am having. My PS3 first, my PC is starting to reboot on its own even running Linux because the Dual Core is heating up pretty bad, so I think the 360 is out next. At least I have a SNES and Super Mario RPG to hold me over

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ec0li
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:41:14 PM

It seems like the newer 80 gig ones are better built(quiter and less heat) but ofcourse does not have bc. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

@Aftab

You try not to play more than an hour or 2? Ouch, I wouldn't want to feel restricted like that. What if you're really immersed in a game and then it's like hearing your alarm to tell you to stop playing because you reached your time limit. That's annoying. What about watching a blu-ray movie that's over 2 hours?

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ceedot
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 8:04:41 PM

take it off the carpet, noob.

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coverton341
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 8:55:14 PM

ceedot you make my face smile sometimes

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www
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 6:35:21 AM

Just got the hard disk out still no hope,red light keeps flashin'.

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Aftab
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 1:27:02 PM

To ec0li: When a new release comes out, like MGS4, on the first playthrough, I'll definite play for a lot longer in one sitting. But most of the time, I'll be racing or fragging, 2 hours at most at night.

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Aftab
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 1:27:53 PM

To www: Does the redlight indicate overheating?

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www
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 7:28:19 PM

yea in the manual it indicates overheatin' but am thinkin' otherwise cause it's been cooled down for a day now.

yea u don't see the dust round it unless u open up ur ps3 man,it collects dirt faster than the 360 internally.

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food86
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 6:51:55 PM
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i agree to all the pointers ben gave out. the way i've seen it is that most of the media finds way to bash heck even killzone. have yall read reviews lol. some sites dock points off for it not having coop or not being imaginative or being more of the same. and for some reason they didnt mention this in gears or halo when they reviewed or even cod4 but why they start doing it in killzone 2 is beyond me. also with the impressive graphics and the game running so many functions at once during gameplay you'd think this would be a more detailed perspective to mention in reviews but leave it to biased journalist to see otherwise. btw really enjoyed arnold's review it seems more down to earth in the sense that he reviewed everything in killzone 2 with fairness unlike other sites...*cough ign cough*.....oh god better get this cold checked out, I don't think its healthy to say words during coughing.....

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Itdoesntmatter
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:29:09 PM

check out the site that gave it a B+....and look around the borders, ALL microsoft adverts....its incredible what is going on....

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:31:45 PM

They don't know they are supposed to review the game that IS THERE, not the features it lacks. That'd be like complaining that FFXIII is bad because it isn't a FPS.

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:27:30 PM
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easy fella, Ben is already steamed about josh and his annoying fanboyism..... thats why josh was deleted

you are sounding alot like josh........

and for your information, a few, if not alot, of people on this site are well aware that 360 has some good games ...... (heck, it has way more games than the wii. i for one wish to play lost odyssey and star ocean)

but no one likes a fanboy
i mean, who the hell goes on a PS website and starts to praise the 360 while they bash the PS3???

i think everyone here didn't consider him "hostile", we just thought he was an annoying 360 fanboy tryin to cause trouble

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:29:42 PM

ha, i'm guessing Ben already deleted that new guy

that was fast..... happened before i finished my comment

i think that the guy was josh.... lol

thanks for getting rid of him Ben!!

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coverton341
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 8:56:50 PM

lost odyssey is awesome if you can get over all the crying and I am looking forward to star ocean like crazy cakes look forward to ice cream topping.

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:22:15 PM

i'm not cryin about it, i just would like to play it thats all

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cazzy07
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:42:39 PM
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hey ben this ones 4 u i dont know if u take requests on topic starters or not,but streetfighter4 is around the corner and im having trouble finding decent competition.so my request is that we have a topic on who is the psxextreme streetfighter4 champion.or something along the lines of that.it would be nice to get some worthy psn ids on my friends list.and thanx 4 getting rid of that pest for us.he really got to alot of us.anyways thanx ben ttyl.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 7:48:38 PM

That should be put in the forums.

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cazzy07
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 8:00:02 PM
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oops sorry bout that still a noob i guess lol

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food86
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 8:09:59 PM
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hi ben!!! i love how in psx extreme we get to interact with the writers.. now this is a community!!!! not like *cough...gamespots....cough* oh god there is that cough again

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PS3_Wizard
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:22:57 AM

Jeez man...take your Bird Flu elsewhere...haha

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karneli lll
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 8:46:34 PM
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I convinced some of my friends to get a ps3 , it didn't take mgs or Lbp to do it - just buzz quiz and singstar. Apparently, there are a lot of people who feel intimidated by the ps3 and its serious games

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coverton341
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 8:58:06 PM

Dude buzz is fun as hell and my fiance loves singstar though i can't carry a tune with a bucket.

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AceTatsujin
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:06:01 PM

no sh** man, lmao.

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AceTatsujin
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:08:04 PM
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alright. to the person who's having trouble with their ps3, the first releases of the ps3 had couple of problems, or namely and majorly one problem which is the blu-laser reader, which at one point or another it will malfunction and you'll have to send it in. thats the ps3 60/20G, the 40/80G and anything beyond those versions are OK.

the problem that you got falls in the 1% catogery with your system being defected. i dunno if it is an HDD, but if its not then you should send it in and get it fixed.

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Tech Guy Chris
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:33:31 PM
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For a second the negative articles disappeared in 2008 but once Black Friday came around it started again.

It started with CNN's "the Playstation 3 is a sinking ship article." After they wrote that everyone linked to it and started posting their own sh** about how its failing. I know this because I use Google news RSS for PS3.

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coverton341
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 9:48:07 PM

Nice plug for the Google RSS service. :P

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Tech Guy Chris
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:30:31 PM
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Haha yea its pretty good lol. All these and a variety of other sources pop up in the feed.

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Banky A
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:34:34 PM
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Yusssss, he's gone.

I'm over the Moon, I really am thrilled - after I read the declaration.

;)

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somethingrandom
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 10:53:32 PM
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You mean there are people who have actually bought PS3's?!?! *throws a blanket over PS3, pulls out cardboard 360* Why would someone want a crappy console from a company that's going under? ;)

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PS3_Wizard
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:25:51 AM

I may be slow, but I don't get the joke. Ellaborate please!

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Jed
Tuesday, February 03, 2009 @ 11:08:21 PM
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I know, SONY should send out an update that bricks every ps3. Then everybody would go out and buy a replacement. Then the ps3 would sell more systems.

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cuteshox
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 12:42:24 AM
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We're behind you on this one!!!! Go PS3!!!!

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hart_attack
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 1:15:26 AM
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i havent been registered to this site long but from what ive read this joshua guy is a bit of a xbox 360 moron. i also noticed that without him even saying anything people are calling him out. that probably just puts a smile on his face, stop egging him on. and im quite sure he is registered on the g4tv website now too. think i saw him commenting on the KZ2 review

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BigBoss4ever
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 2:11:31 AM
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with the release of WKC, Killzone2, GOW3, FF13, FFv13, ICO3, RE4, SF4, PoP, Beyonetta etc. PS3 will rule and flourish, it needs not to be saved; conversely, the 360 software will struggle to compete with the PS3 software power. such is the inevitable direction we will be facing.

Hail Sony, Hail PS3!

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OriginalSin
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 4:17:54 AM
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Hey guys what's up? I've also been coming to this site for nearly 2 years now, after I stopped going to Gamespot.... The reason being that they (as well as other sites) tend to always give the PS3 a bad rap, review their games as average when it's not and so on.

So it's not surprising that even now people are still saying the PS3 is doomed, just because they hang on the lips of these uniformed biased people, plus I think it makes themselves feel better thinking they are so perfect. That's why I just observe and don't get get my panties in a twist over things like this. I'll just smile when the day comes that the PS3 takes over the Xbox in sales, cause then what do they have to argue with???

Until then I will be enjoying my games that they all wish they had....

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 7:06:36 AM

Indeed not, however, my Dreamcast is full of love ;)

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HOODGE
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 5:11:51 AM
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I'll tell you simply why american journalists want the PS3 to not succeed. Simply it's Japanese, and they want to see the American Giant MS win this battle. Second of all, the defective ratio for 360 is at 33%. That's one in three 360's will blow up. PS3 is at 2%. Out of those 28 million 360 sales, a quarter of them or more are rebuys. I'am one of those idiots that bought a second So called SPARE console. I'm on my 4th and last one. I must also comment on Live Vs. PSN. Who here knows which game on 360 offers the most players online at once. Call of duty 3 - 24 players online. That's it. I've heard all this Live offers a better online experience from that Josh loser dude, but his favorite games being Halo 3 and Gears of War 2 only offer 10 - 12 online player battles. And on top of that the lag is atrochias. And you pay for that! Playstation 3 has 1) Warhawk - 32 players, 2) Resistance Fall of Man - 40 players, 3) Resistance 2 - 60 players, 4) Killzone 2 - 32 players, 5) Mag - 256 players. Omg and 3 of those titles I mentioned run absolutely lag free. So which machine is the king of online gaming. Do the math! Sony hands down. And no one can argue with me on that. Plus it's free. what value. So guys here's to an awesome 2009 for PS3. It like the PS2 outlasted the Xbox 1, PS3 will outlive the 360. It's inevitable. And every year will just keep getting better.. Enough said.

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Orvisman
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 9:55:58 AM
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Good riddance to JoshuaAdams360!

I've been calling him out from day one!

My favorite post of Josh's was when he realized he had one foot out the door already and Ben's boot was on his posterior and he plays the sympathy card about how his parents died and his girlfriend had a miscarriage.

The Josh hate died down for a time after that.

Now, I don't know if any of that was true; but knowing his TYPE, I wouldn't put it past him to fabricate something like that just to save his own skin.

Now, who is that ImTheMan with the 360 avatar person? A JoshuaAdam360 alternate account?

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PS3_Wizard
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:28:28 AM

Just don't even mention josh's name. Ben got rid of him for a reason. Move on and forget the dark days of PSX. Ben even said to stop talking about him.

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Arvis
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 1:25:52 PM

No offense, Wizard, but I'll talk about Josh as often as I deem appropriate, thank you. If it's topical, why avoid talking about him? We all learned some things from his time here with us, so if we forget about him we forget what we learned.

Personally, I wish him godspeed on his quest for perspective, because he could certainly use some. Success of video game consoles = not really all that important.

-Arvis

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:20:29 AM

Remember that Petpeeve article? Well I just thought of one...People who say "No offense..." and then proceed in saying things that should be taken with offense.

Well If you wanna keep talking about him, feel free. Who am I to take away freedom of speech. But since you wanna exercise yours, I think I'll put mine to use:

If your smart ass scrolls up and re-reads all the posts, you will find that BEN himself said to stop bringing him up. But since you want to directly disobey a MODERATOR, then I advise you to keep talkin shit. And When the hell did I ever say "Arvis" stop talking about Josh. I believe I was talking to another person. Don't jump in on problems that don't concern you.

So I'll be honest and TELL you that that was meant with minor offense.

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Arvis
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:40:58 PM

Wizard,

Ok, your first paragraph was pretty damn funny. =D

That being said, I really REALLY didn't mean any offense to you. Rather, I was only expressing to you the offense I took at your comment. I don't curse, don't tell dirty jokes, and generally don't name-call. In other words, I restrict my own speech very rigorously, so if someone else tries to tell me what I can and cannot talk about, it bugs me. Take that for what you will.

Besides, Ben simply didn't want a whole string of off-topic posts that would basically amount to needless mud-slinging at one hapless 360 fanboy. If bringing up Joshua is topical, I don't think Ben is going to bring the hammer down on me. Thanks for your "concern" though. I hope I can now reassure you that my butt is not smart, but as stupid as it ever was.

-Arvis

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PS3_Wizard
Friday, February 06, 2009 @ 9:06:09 AM

Ok here's my problem. It seems Everyone on the Internet just nit-picks just to find things they can use "comebacks" on, totally disregarding the main point of the post. You said:

"...I restrict my own speech very rigorously, so if someone else tries to tell me what I can and cannot talk about, it bugs me. Take that for what you will."

So i said:

"And When the hell did I ever say "Arvis" stop talking about Josh. I believe I was talking to another person. Don't jump in on problems that don't concern you."

That other person happened to be Orvisman.

So my question to you is, why did you feel the need to say:

"No offense, Wizard, but I'll talk about Josh as often as I deem appropriate, thank you. If it's topical, why avoid talking about him?"

When I never told YOU it wasn't ok?

And I'll admit that I didn't immediately know the meaning of the word "Topical" that you used, so I did my research.

1. pertaining to or dealing with matters of current or local interest: a topical reference.
2. pertaining to the subject of a discourse, composition, or the like.

If its #1, then I guess your post would have been relevant, but seeing as how you posted so close to the end of the article (after we got back on topic, mind you), You Weren't being on topic anymore, you shifted attention back to Josh. Maybe you should have replied to a post around when everyone else was talking about him?

If its #2, I perceive the definition as the ARTICLE being the topic, in which case you clearly weren't on. That also happens to do away with what you said here:

"If it's topical, why avoid talking about him?"

It was topical quite a few posts earlier in the article, not anymore. Do you agree? Well thats it I guess, no more posts from me. Since you are a fellow community member, even if you reply to this comment negatively, I'll act my age and turn a cold shoulder.

No hard feelings anymore, just don't take what I say to OTHER people to heart.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:42:02 AM
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I'm tired of the Chris Pereiras, Chris Kohlers, Victor Lucases, all the other bloggers and "journalists" and the rest of the media with their anti-PS3 stance. When it's all said and done, they will all change their tune. The PS3 needs no saving. They sold 20 million consoles at $399-699. When the console eventually drops to $249 by 2010, everybody who wants a PS3 will buy one.

I criticized Victor Lucas at Electric Playground for his Xbox 360 bias and he came out with the "I love all consoles" BS. He also implied that I only like the PS3. I like the Wii, too, intermittently.

I like the Xbox 360; I owned two of them. I just don't think they have had any exclusives in the last two years that interest me. Some of them will find their way to the PS3 eventually, like Tales Of Vesperia.

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Dingodial
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 1:16:34 PM
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The reason why the media hates PS3 is because they are too busy wastin' time with their Wiis and as a result they have came to the conclusion that PS3 is "Just another game system". But it seems to me that the G4 channel is in favor of the PS3 and they recognize all its features.

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Arvis
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 1:29:41 PM

X-play does not like the PS3. X-play GotY nominees were: Left4Dead, Gears2, Fable 2, Fallout 3. Give me a freaking break. Their love for 360 is as transparent as the cellophane on my leftovers. It wouldn't be so annoying if they didn't pretend that they're neutral. Idiots.

-Arvis

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MirrorSoul
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 8:21:18 PM

Their love for 360 is as transparent as the "cellophane on my leftovers."

Never Heard that one lol nice

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