Uncharted: The Gears Of War Killer?
I'll make this abundantly clear off the bat: despite some of the more significant technical glitches in Gears of War 2, it was easily one of the best games of 2008 and certainly one of the best of the generation. However, I found Uncharted: Drake's Fortune to be a cleaner, and ultimately more entertaining, production. Yes, I'm talking about the first Uncharted and the most recent Gears. Considering that it's silly to compare either Resistance 2 or Killzone 2 to Gears, the closest PlayStation 3-exclusive competitor is Naughty Dog's new series. ...and in all honesty, I see Uncharted eventually surpassing Epic's series in terms of overall quality and fun factor (yes, I'm aware the latter is subjective).
Even though there was plenty of critical acclaim and the game sold very well, I still think Drake's Fortune is one of the most overlooked titles of the generation. This is due to a number of factors: first, the PS3 had been out for only a year - and a rough year at that - when the game launched, and it simply didn't reach a very large audience. Second, it wasn't an established franchise and typically, IPs don't fare as well as hotly anticipated sequels. Third, Sony's bad marketing and promotion left Uncharted out in the cold, but we're starting to see a reversal in that lagging advertising, as Killzone 2 is gonna be seen everywhere. Taking all this into account, I see Uncharted 2: Among Thieves as being one of the biggest PS3 releases thus far, and it should cement the 2009 holiday season. As for the impending Gears of War 3, I'm sure it'll be awesome, but...
Look, I'm just breaking this down in my head. Visually speaking, Uncharted 2 is gonna be amaaaaazing. In a recent interview I did with David Jaffe, he said he's seen some of what Naughty Dog is doing with this sequel, and his praise was high. He even said he'd love to work on a massive project like that in the future! And we've all seen the teaser debut trailers, right? Drool much? So I'm telling you right now: unless there's a significant graphical leap in Gears of War 3, Uncharted 2 will look just as good, if not better. In terms of sound, I enjoyed the soundtrack more in Uncharted, and I'll say the voice acting and effects are pretty similar in terms of excellent quality. Gameplay is tough; both are so fluid and so incredible in what they offer the player. But there really wasn't much of a difference in Gears 2 in comparison to the original, and I've heard about several important enhancements to the Uncharted 2 gameplay foundation. This is just speculation, but I'm trying to base it on hard evidence.
I've no doubt that I'll play both Gears of War 3 and Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, but I'm predicting that the latter will set the bar for third-person action/adventure titles this generation. ...and I'm not willing to bet the farm that the third Gears can leap over that bar. That's all I'm saying.
2/4/2009 Ben Dutka
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Godslim
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:40:01 AM
FLYING_APE
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 5:36:42 AM
rell
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:16:57 AM
PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:43:30 AM
AceTatsujin
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:26:15 PM
Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:32:57 PM
aaronisbla
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:37:45 PM
Banky A
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:54:34 PM
Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:34:06 PM
Schmitty
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:35:49 PM
Phoelix
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:14:00 PM
PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:46:03 AM
MetalHead09
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:26:43 PM
comparing thirt person games to first person games just dont add up because they are totally different beasts so comparing uncharted to gears makes waaay more sense.
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NightHawk17
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:31:21 PM
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I mean a chainsaw fight O_o are you kidding me, RAAM was wayyyyyy better he put up a great fight(damn near impossible to kill)good times with RAAM. But Uncharted is a great game but when it comes to these two games it gonna be preference.
Reynono
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:04:05 AM
kidgrid
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:37:11 PM
Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:31:34 PM
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JasperLoons
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:38:28 PM
Godslim
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:41:39 AM
MetalHead09
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:28:37 PM
Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:32:16 PM
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aaronisbla
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:39:26 PM
Orvisman
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:49:18 AM
shadowpal2
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:34:04 PM
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Uncharted 2 to look as good as Gears 3...I agree. Why??? There was no improvement between Gears 1 to 2 graphical wise IMO. Maybe some environments had a better.....ummm...shine?? To it?? But other than that...graphics wise yea.
aaronisbla
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:44:54 PM
ffrevenge
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:00:17 AM
aaronisbla
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:25:33 AM
dveisalive
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:48:39 PM
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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:03:26 AM
ffrevenge
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:02:41 AM
cegmp
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:36:29 AM
Daedusian
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:37:07 PM
Type D was my fav setup as the analog stick only moves in the direction you face rather than your body moving all at once and together.
And I finally beat that damn chainsaw boss because the freaking girl kept screwing it up for me. She always 'accidentally' shot the barrels before Mr. Chainsaw man was there, leaving me no choice to shoot, which then made it too slow and boring because I had to pistol whip his ass the entire time lol.
Definitely buying it though, but for the 360 since that's what my friends only have =.(
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eLLeJuss
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:10:06 PM
Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:05:54 AM
Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:12:22 AM
ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:01:39 AM
There is just so much "marketing hype dollar" can do for a game. When a game continues to be played and bought by millions of people, the game must have done something right. To give you an example, Too Human and Haze because of initial hype sold relatively well for the openning week. After that week, the bottom just fell out and they both died a quick death. To say that Gears's "bigness" is just due to "marketing hype dollar" is undeniably false. The game can't please everyone but for every person it does not please, there's thousands that happen to enjoy it. You gotta give credit where credit is due.
eLLeJuss
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:34:17 AM
ps92117
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:50:02 PM
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chicko1983
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:54:38 PM
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Joe_III
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:55:40 PM
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That's kind of an unfair competition. Yes, Sony uses BRD so it can hold a much larger set of textures and objects. Yes because of BRD it can support 7.1 channel audio at a much higher quality than xbox's.
However, while those are important to a game, Audio and Visual are not the most important factors. Pacing, Control, and Immersion are much higher factors that the previous mentioned assist in, but are not necessary for. I myself get just as into a game of Wolfenstein PC (insert any old game title here) as I do WaW.
Games with technical excellence will belong to the PS3, unless Microsoft figures out a way to catch up quickly. However, when it comes to exclusives that are gripping and enjoyable to play, Sony is still playing catchup.
somethingrandom
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:24:16 PM
Joe_III
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:43:27 PM
dlte
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:31:18 AM
Troy Powers
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:11:17 AM
PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:56:54 AM
Orvisman
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:51:26 AM
Joe_III
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:44:55 PM
kprambo
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:03:39 PM
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somethingrandom
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:22:37 PM
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rell
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:31:59 AM
LCF
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:23:37 PM
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Lets take humans for an example. Humans in video games is one of the most difficult to pull off. Why? Because we see us all the time. We can nit-pick every little detail. Nathan Drake is the most human character I have ever seen in a video game in every respect of the term(sorry Snake). Why are human characters being used on the UE3 look so damn bulky?. Even Mass Effect did not look right.
You are seeing images of a unfinished game that puts gears to shame(graphically speaking).
You wont see 3rd party games of this quality and caliber unless they drop the X360 crutch and lead with the PS3 development then dummy it down to the X360.
I think we will in time once the developers see all these critically acclaimed games from Sony's 1st and 2nd parties. 2008 showed that most if not all the high quality games were from Sony's own game studios.
Now from my understanding RTE1080 might be the middleware for the PS3 (like how X360 got the unreal engine 3.5) RTE1080 runs 1080p @ 60fps, standard. I wont know this for sure, maybe in a couple of months(hope GDC spills the beans). But if this is the case, it would be great news for 3rd party developers working on the PS3.
Wonder if someone at Gamestop is going to tell me that Uncharted 2 is going to be multiplat, like how the 1st Uncharted was suppose to be. Dumbass.
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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:03:16 AM
LCF
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:10:01 AM
cegmp
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:42:20 AM
KBsocks
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:03:39 AM
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Personally I liked Uncharted better mainly because more vibrant colors then Gears and this is just a personal thing but Gears felt a little heavy for me while Uncharteds controller was more fluid. Also nothing against Gears but a kick ass voice acting isn't so bad either.
Tha_Joker_186
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:47:00 AM
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docpain
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:47:34 AM
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Nothing against Gears of War but it's just not for me...to me, it's a bit much on the arcadish side and the roided/testosterone characters using oversized weapons completely turned me off...the voice acting and enemy sounds just felt teenagerish too...its what put me off of MGO too...its just imo
InfiniteRetro
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:09:22 AM
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all xbots have is halo and gears. thats it. two SHOOTING games without about as much appeal as sitting on a flushing toilet.
Troy Powers
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:15:18 AM
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InfiniteRetro
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:17:05 AM
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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:41:23 AM
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Resistance/Killzone vs Gears would be a better comparison because they attract the same type of fans.
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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:44:29 AM
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And Ben, if by "fluid", you meant zero load times, then I concur, they were comparable. But regarding animation, Gears looked absolutely cruddy compared to Uncharted, with the exception of the stomp animations. And as for the story, it was a drag, just like the action. I liked Marcus Fenix, and some of his lines were cool but all his peons just came across as prision b1tches most of the time. There was one good scene in the game, which was actually moving, but everything else came accross as ineffectual and sappy. The action was not significantly different in Uncharted, but moving around didn't feel like backing up a truck, and the fighting fields were far more diverse; and even during the lulls in the action, you had puzzles, cutscenes closer to hollywood, with far more expressive facial expressions and more professional voice-acting, and at the very least, enchanting graphics that just kept you awe-struck.
If anyone has detected any irritation in my type, you've observed correctly. Why am I bitching? Because, for the most part, I invested in a 360 because of all the hype around Gears, and felt the need to experience what all the hype was about. I had a suspicion that Uncharted would've been enough for experiencing a Gears-like experience, and as it turns out I was wrong: Uncharted was far more than just "enough". So when people add to the hype of Gears, yes, I do become a little agitated, because if they were just a couple more voices of reason out there, I wouldn't have wasted my bloody money. It was a good game. But I'll put it this way, if it were on the ps3, I would've bought it new, played the single-player, and traded it in after a week or two.
I hope everyone knows, I'm not attacking anyone personally. And if anyone has taken offense, please accept my apologies. I just had to get that out, because it has been something that has been nagging me for past year or so. And yeah, Uncharted is a total Gears-killer, even if millions of xbots don't buy in to it. The only thing about the 360 experience left to be admired is their voice-chat.
Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:53:21 AM
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LCF
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:18:28 AM
With Uncharted, Nathan Drake is a very human likable character and seeing the 1st teaser trailer him in the snow bleeding and beat to hell in the cold was tough to swallow as well.
Aftab
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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:07:51 AM
migabyte
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Aftab
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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:16:47 AM
aaronisbla
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:21:22 AM
ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:23:49 AM
Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:36:14 AM
KevinCairo
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:13:16 AM
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I haven't played either so I can't make a decisive statement about the matter, but I don't think I'd get Gears even if I had a 360 -- not my type of game. Uncharted's cinematic feel makes it more appealing to me by a long shot.
Realistically though, I wouldn't be surprised if Uncharted 2 doesn't exactly surpass Gears because Sony doesn't manage to overtake Microsoft in its install base. As much faith as I have in the PS3, it's still a big gap to close considering the extra year on the market for the 360. It's not that it shouldn't rightfully tower luminously over Gears; I just know how stubborn people are about console favorites.
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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:21:45 AM
LCF
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:27:33 AM
Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:59:15 AM
PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:16:35 AM
Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 11:12:57 AM
PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:29:57 PM
ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:44:54 AM
Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:58:01 AM
ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:13:06 AM
Res Evil Series
Metal Gear series
Dead Space
Silent Hill
Too Human
Fracture
Alone in the Dark
The Darkness
World of Warcraft(played in 3rd person -Hunters- in the game use guns where you go bang bang) btw it was my main character in WoW
should i go on or do you want me to stop? I think you're gonna want me to stop. I'm pretty sure u liked that last comparison.
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LCF
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:50:53 AM
ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:24:42 AM
Actually, if you read my first comment on this thread...my argument is not about quality. I'm not questioning the quality of both games here, I'm questioning the COMPARISON and the ridiculous flamebait title. I personally don't give a rat's ass about which system has better games and I've advocated the advantages of owning multiple systems. I think you're misinformed if you think the heart of this article is about the PS3 having more quality games(subjective to say the least). More power to you if that's the case, but you're grasping at straws if you think that was the point of the article. Read it again and you'll see how the author is even trying to isolate Gears and Uncharted within their own world. I'll give you a tip. If you look at what Uncharted and Gears are listed as, one is a SHOOTER and the other is ACTION ADVENTURE. Guess which one is which?
LCF
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:53:53 AM
Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 11:42:12 AM
Btw, Ec0li, RE4, RE5, Dark Sector ("Darkness" was an fps), Deadspace, and even MGS4 have all been compared to Gears or vice-versa. As for the other games, I haven't played them.
So Uncharted throws some platforming and puzzles in to the mix to break up monotony. What? It's no longer a shooter, then?
ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:48:22 PM
Yer right, I meant to say Dark Sector and not Darkness. Too many "Dark" games gets me confused. Uncharted may have shooting, but it ain't no shooter. You might as well call Uncharted a platformer cause it has some jumping if that's the case. It's a jack of all trades game that has many elements and that is why it's listed as an action/adventure. A shooter is a shooter because 90 percent of what you do in the game is shoot people's faces off.
Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:21:20 PM
ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 11:36:42 PM
xnonsuchx
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:06:46 AM
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I'm just kinda getting sick of things HAVING to be a someone-else's-favorite-such-and-such killer. Good things should be judged on their own merits. The title of this article gives credence to KZ2 reviews that say it doesn't add much more to what CoD 4 already delivered.
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Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:27:13 AM
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Godslim
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:42:47 AM
coverton341
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 11:57:45 AM
ceedot
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:57:00 AM
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www
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 5:05:44 AM
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Overall errrrrrrrrrrrr...........Uncharted has the edge but i really think Uncharted should be compared to gears1 and Uncharted2 compared to Gears2.
Ben i wuld appreciate it if the next article was,KILLZONE 2:THE RESISTANCE KILLER?
but that would be after K2 has been long released and we're all able to share our thoughts.
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K ASH
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 5:18:39 AM
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Ben, i checked out a new 10min gameplay vid for Demons Souls on youtube, i must admit i was skeptical about the game since i read that its going 2 be like oblivion wich i dont like. But DS looks way better the animation, gameplay, the huge bosses. i liked what i saw hope to see & hear more.
TEG3SH
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:15:48 AM
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cover, shoot, run, push a lever then do it all again, the only deference was one was red the other was green, the only way uncharted can kick Geow's ass is to implement online and the lancer that sh** is the sh**.lol welcome back josh ;)
aaronisbla
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:25:32 AM
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Sir Shak
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:33:56 AM
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While gears is a shooter through and through , uncharted is an excellent merger of different genres. Both great games but inherently different .
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Alienange
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:56:05 AM
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pavlovic
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:40:24 AM
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I finished U:DF 3 or 4 times, while Gears there were 2 and Gears 2 just one.
This comparison between these 2 games, is kind of weird. I heard a lot of xbots saying that Uncharted was a copy of Gears, because the covering system... just dumb.
Graphically, I'll stick with Uncharted over the 2 gears.
big6
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:10:06 AM
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Uncharted is a 3rd Person game with a cover-system that is very similar to Gears. Picture playing Uncharted when you encounter a bunch of bad guys and the fighting starts. This is directly comparable to Gears when you get into a firefight.
Forget the genre and battlefield vs. jungle exploration comparisons... that's not what he's talking about!
And yes, because of this 3rd person shooter w/ cover system mechanic, Gears can never be compared to full-fledged First-Person Shooters like R2 or Killzone 2.
Make sense??
SmileyGrenades
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:14:15 AM
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Seriously though, unless you're looking for hits and flame-bait is your style, I'd suggest not making headlines with the words "game:______ Killer". The less we gamers see it, the better off games will be.
Such a malicious phrase, Ben.. Why'd u do that? :(
SmileyGrenades
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:17:02 AM
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SmileyGrenades
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:40:07 AM
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Uncharted 2 could have an amazing multiplayer component if done right. If they are able to keep the gunplay solid, and perhaps some loadout options, it'd easily surpass Gears 2.. I have a feeling Gears3 will have taken a few pages out of Guerrilla's books when the time comes (namely the tricks they used to create that cinematic feeling, as well as the hit response system and the bullet-impact effects, they'll need it all to not get caught up in gears 2.5 like Gears 2 did).
But hey, here's something to think about. In terms of Gears 2 being outdone, if Sony had released Eight Days at launch, I think it would've eaten Gears 1 alive. It had also been in development longer I'm prettysure, so if they had released Eight Days even a month before Gears 1, I think it would've knocked about 50% of the 360's wind out it its sails.
If anyone remember seeing the Eight Days cover system demo, you'll know what I mean. I would have most definetly knocked gears down a couple hundred pegs (The animation was unmatched, not to mention the graphics were totally off the chain for a could-be launch or near-launch title). Just to prove I'm not spewing BS out of my mouth, check them out here:
For the cover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFDQadSYzg&feature=related
For the trailer (in case u haven't it yet)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDOZvKWXDP4
Maybe Sony canned it because having two of the same types of games may have been cluttering it. I dunno. I'd take the cover system I see in those demos over Uncharted any day.
SmileyGrenades
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:52:14 AM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:32:56 AM
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Secondly, of COURSE both games are in the same genre. No, they're not identical, but what games ARE? Both Uncharted and Gears fall into the action or action/adventure categories, plain and simple.
Scarecrow
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:09:12 PM
ceedot
Monday, February 09, 2009 @ 7:06:34 AM
Ultimadream
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:35:51 AM
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coverton341
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:01:23 PM
big6
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:48:37 AM
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I do know you meant that one will surpass the other on whatever the comparison is...
However, the term "_____ Killer" has a negative connotation, and hardcore fans of the game being "killed" in question will adamantly reject that statement and defend their choice game.
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 11:25:39 AM
coverton341
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:03:17 PM
NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:45:55 PM
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Uncharted WILL be great. NaughtyDog has yet to make a bad game. Or a good game for that matter. All of their games are GREAT in every aspect. Great story, believable characters, polished gameplay...
Gears may look prettier (the pc version is gorgeous, i havent played the 360 version), but Uncharted has everything polished, not just the visuals.
Arvis
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:13:13 PM
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The funny part was that one of the comments on X-play's review read: "I'm glad Ben banned you," directed at Joshua. The PSXExtreme community is a mighty crowd, indeed.
-Arvis
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smileys_007
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:55:26 PM
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bamf
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:19:52 PM
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What we'll see Naughty Dog do with Uncharted 2, I'm sure we'll all be blown away.
There were those rumours some time back that had us believe that M$ only had exclusive right for just the first 2 Gears and not for the 3rd.
http://www.ps3vault.com/gears-of-war-3-on-ps3-2534
Ghost_of_Sparta
Saturday, February 07, 2009 @ 10:27:37 PM
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Seriously though, as much as I like Uncharted, it needs a really good multiplayer component and a lot more violence to "replace" Gears IMO. A similar cover system and 3rd person view is about all these games seem to have in common...

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