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Uncharted: The Gears Of War Killer?

I'll make this abundantly clear off the bat: despite some of the more significant technical glitches in Gears of War 2, it was easily one of the best games of 2008 and certainly one of the best of the generation. However, I found Uncharted: Drake's Fortune to be a cleaner, and ultimately more entertaining, production. Yes, I'm talking about the first Uncharted and the most recent Gears. Considering that it's silly to compare either Resistance 2 or Killzone 2 to Gears, the closest PlayStation 3-exclusive competitor is Naughty Dog's new series. ...and in all honesty, I see Uncharted eventually surpassing Epic's series in terms of overall quality and fun factor (yes, I'm aware the latter is subjective).

Even though there was plenty of critical acclaim and the game sold very well, I still think Drake's Fortune is one of the most overlooked titles of the generation. This is due to a number of factors: first, the PS3 had been out for only a year - and a rough year at that - when the game launched, and it simply didn't reach a very large audience. Second, it wasn't an established franchise and typically, IPs don't fare as well as hotly anticipated sequels. Third, Sony's bad marketing and promotion left Uncharted out in the cold, but we're starting to see a reversal in that lagging advertising, as Killzone 2 is gonna be seen everywhere. Taking all this into account, I see Uncharted 2: Among Thieves as being one of the biggest PS3 releases thus far, and it should cement the 2009 holiday season. As for the impending Gears of War 3, I'm sure it'll be awesome, but...

Look, I'm just breaking this down in my head. Visually speaking, Uncharted 2 is gonna be amaaaaazing. In a recent interview I did with David Jaffe, he said he's seen some of what Naughty Dog is doing with this sequel, and his praise was high. He even said he'd love to work on a massive project like that in the future! And we've all seen the teaser debut trailers, right?  Drool much?  So I'm telling you right now: unless there's a significant graphical leap in Gears of War 3, Uncharted 2 will look just as good, if not better. In terms of sound, I enjoyed the soundtrack more in Uncharted, and I'll say the voice acting and effects are pretty similar in terms of excellent quality. Gameplay is tough; both are so fluid and so incredible in what they offer the player. But there really wasn't much of a difference in Gears 2 in comparison to the original, and I've heard about several important enhancements to the Uncharted 2 gameplay foundation. This is just speculation, but I'm trying to base it on hard evidence.

I've no doubt that I'll play both Gears of War 3 and Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, but I'm predicting that the latter will set the bar for third-person action/adventure titles this generation. ...and I'm not willing to bet the farm that the third Gears can leap over that bar. That's all I'm saying.

2/4/2009 Ben Dutka

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Comments (149 posts)

Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:28:53 PM
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Wow I never once thought about comparing the other game when I played both of these. But yeah gears 2 was a great game and uncharted was too. They are both beautiful games.(edge probably to uncharted because it isnt as gritty as the gears games) Haven't seen much of uncharted 2 although I have that gameinformer mag and have'nt seen anything of Gears 3. They're both great games and I cant wait to pick up both of the new ones!

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Godslim
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:40:01 AM

yeh both great games i dont really think u can compare them though coz they may be shooter but are in really different settings

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FLYING_APE
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 5:36:42 AM

yeah Why the fu*k is ben comparing games. I'm fed up with this gears killer and halo killer sh*t. Now i'm getting it from my fav site.

Ben fu*k off and stop comparing. BLOG IT

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Godslim
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:04:27 AM

chill winston!

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rell
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:16:57 AM

I honesty didn't like gears of war 2, for some reason I liked gears of war 1. I love uncharted drake it was fun and had alot of humor to it.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:43:30 AM

Chill out RIP Joshua360...talkin like that is a sure fired way of getting jumped.

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AceTatsujin
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:26:15 PM

boot joshua, and ban his IP already.

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Im The Man
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:31:42 PM

IM NOT JOSHUA BUDDY!!!

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ceedot
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:30:12 PM
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Dude, you havn't played it yet. Not to mention, with working at a game store, the amount of gears of war fans compared to uncharted fans (which has been like.... one?) is significant. Yeah, it's newer, but it won't kill off gears.

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Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:32:57 PM

I haven't played it yet??? I have the original u IDIOT!

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ceedot
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:35:13 PM

Was I talking to you?

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aaronisbla
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:37:45 PM

chill i am the man, i think he was directing that towards Ben., and by not playing it, he meant the newer games

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Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:43:04 PM

my bad im the idiot

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Banky A
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:54:34 PM

Accepting your mistakes.
Nice.
Rule # 3

;)

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dlte
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:30:22 PM
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"Considering that it's silly to compare either Resistance 2 or Killzone 2 to Gears, the closest PlayStation 3-exclusive competitor is Naughty Dog's new series."

How so?

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Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:34:06 PM

fps vs. 3ps is a silly comparison

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Schmitty
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:35:49 PM

maybe cus their both FPS

or cuz they own it

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Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:44:51 PM

no ben wasnt saying they own it

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Phoelix
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:14:00 PM

Probably because R2 is a more arcade-style shooter like Halo, and Killzone 2 is more of a realistic shooter like CoD4. Although they're all shooters, they are each distinct in the field.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:46:03 AM

I'll have to agree with Im The Man.

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MetalHead09
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:26:43 PM

gears and uncharted are third person shooters/action adventure that use very much the same cover system originally seen in killswitch.

comparing thirt person games to first person games just dont add up because they are totally different beasts so comparing uncharted to gears makes waaay more sense.

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NightHawk17
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:31:21 PM
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I honestly didn't like Gears 2 as much as i did Gears 1. The online was horrible for the first month(my friends tell me its better now), and the boss battles were really boring...

I mean a chainsaw fight O_o are you kidding me, RAAM was wayyyyyy better he put up a great fight(damn near impossible to kill)good times with RAAM. But Uncharted is a great game but when it comes to these two games it gonna be preference.

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Reynono
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:04:05 AM

I 'm with you on the Gears1 over Gears2. Reaver rides? Really? Thats not exactly how i roll, or fly for that matter. Uncharted on the other hand was my favorite. Definitely a matter of preference though.

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kidgrid
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:37:11 PM

i felt the same way. I went back to playing 1

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Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:31:34 PM
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And also I think Uncharted was the first game I ever played that I actually felt like I was playing in a movie.

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JasperLoons
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:38:28 PM

^that

Uncharted is still my favorite game of this generation. I think there might be "better" games, but there was a feel to Uncharted that I don't think any other game has. Needless to say, I have very high hopes for the sequel.

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Godslim
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:41:39 AM

yeh i luved the character it was like a movie drake has to be my fav game character i just luv his cocky attitude

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MetalHead09
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:28:37 PM

thats game was just simply fun all the way. i really felt like i was on a treasure hunt yuh know?

the characters and acting were just superb and can rank up there with metal gear.

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Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:32:16 PM
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******ALERT******** AND NO I'M NOT JOSH SO DONT ASK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ******ALERT*********

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aaronisbla
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:39:26 PM

hi josh! im kidding, but yeah most likely you are gonna get called josh, you seem a lot calmer than him though

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Orvisman
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:49:18 AM

I thought you were Josh at first due to your icon, but you definitely aren't the fanboy Josh was/is.

You also appear to have a PS3 unlike Josh (or at least have played one unlike Josh).

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shadowpal2
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:34:04 PM
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When Uncharted first came out...it was seriously gorgeous. Naughty Dog never fails in animation. It made beautiful environments in Jak 1,2 & 3 for the PS2 and made a flamboyant environment in Uncharted. It has a nice cover system, uses the sixaxis good enough, and as for graphics in general - the one thing that stuck out for me in the most was the after effect of going in the water. You'd see Drake's clothes...wet and completely drenched. Then you see the drying effects...and it just looked so.....WELL FUCKING DONE. Gears of War looks also really nice. Not beautiful (considering it's a war-torn battlefield with nothing but gallons of blood being splashed on the 1080p screen) but yes realistically gritty. But I've noticed pixels in faces of the models sort of mushing in and just not make a clear face where as Uncharted you could see Drake's reaction during battle sequences and stuff.

Uncharted 2 to look as good as Gears 3...I agree. Why??? There was no improvement between Gears 1 to 2 graphical wise IMO. Maybe some environments had a better.....ummm...shine?? To it?? But other than that...graphics wise yea.


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aaronisbla
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:44:54 PM

have you played both games ffrulez? they are really similar, there wasn't enough puzzles in the first game to really call it puzzle action adventure. Can you name one puzzle that was hard?

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Im The Man
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:46:52 PM

agreed

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aaronisbla
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:25:33 AM

shooting is an addition? guess you haven't played uncharted then, there is way more gunplay than anything else on that game. If you are trying to compare it to a puzzle action game like tomb raider, you are dead wrong

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dveisalive
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:48:39 PM
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I believe that RE5 is the Gears of War Killer!

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:03:26 AM

I didn't like the demo much. The controls sucked. Without any dodge, I found myself trotting passed boss's to avoid their attacks, and that felt irritatingly weak and tedious. I'm probably gonna pass it, and I'm glad I passed RE4. Deadspace showed the player doesn't need to have his hands (and feet) tied to generate fear.

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cegmp
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:36:29 AM

I agree with Aftab. The demo wasn't bad, per se. But it wasn't exceptional either.

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Daedusian
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:37:07 PM

Once you get used to the controls the game is so much fun, but I can see it getting boring and repetitive at some point because of it's slow moments.

Type D was my fav setup as the analog stick only moves in the direction you face rather than your body moving all at once and together.

And I finally beat that damn chainsaw boss because the freaking girl kept screwing it up for me. She always 'accidentally' shot the barrels before Mr. Chainsaw man was there, leaving me no choice to shoot, which then made it too slow and boring because I had to pistol whip his ass the entire time lol.

Definitely buying it though, but for the 360 since that's what my friends only have =.(

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eLLeJuss
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:48:42 PM
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ah. i dont think so. Uncharted isn't as big as gears as of now. And i don't think it will ever be. IMO

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ps92117
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:51:00 PM

agreed but that means nothing.

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eLLeJuss
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:10:06 PM

well, it does actually. Cause gears started really big. Even though uncharted will be an amazing game. it won't stop people from playing gears. Even if it gets bigger than gears. maybe by that time though, the GeoW series might have ended already.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:05:54 AM

It seems the only significant criteria of a game's excellence is sales numbers. That "bigness" you are observing of Gears is only related to marketing hype dollar.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:12:22 AM

Edit: Sorry, I meant, "the only significant criteria FOR SOME PEOPLE".

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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:01:39 AM

@Aftab

There is just so much "marketing hype dollar" can do for a game. When a game continues to be played and bought by millions of people, the game must have done something right. To give you an example, Too Human and Haze because of initial hype sold relatively well for the openning week. After that week, the bottom just fell out and they both died a quick death. To say that Gears's "bigness" is just due to "marketing hype dollar" is undeniably false. The game can't please everyone but for every person it does not please, there's thousands that happen to enjoy it. You gotta give credit where credit is due.

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eLLeJuss
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:34:17 AM

LoL aftab. have you ever played gears? Gears is a good game. It isn't just hyped

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ps92117
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:50:02 PM
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No more killing plz, well I've gotten excited about u2 it just looks awsome and unlike geow2, they are going to put more emphasis on character development and story telling, as for graphics, isn't u2 suppose to be better looking than kz2, if that is the case than no 360 game will stand a chance( graphically ). Always wanted to say this "360 has no games"

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chicko1983
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:54:38 PM
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Uncharted 2 is looking good and I agree that it will be the stick that all action adventure games will be measured by this gen

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Joe_III
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 10:55:40 PM
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Apples/Oranges. I think I know why one would stop attempting to compare R2 to GoW2, but that, imho, was a much more apt comparison because they were at least both shooters.

That's kind of an unfair competition. Yes, Sony uses BRD so it can hold a much larger set of textures and objects. Yes because of BRD it can support 7.1 channel audio at a much higher quality than xbox's.

However, while those are important to a game, Audio and Visual are not the most important factors. Pacing, Control, and Immersion are much higher factors that the previous mentioned assist in, but are not necessary for. I myself get just as into a game of Wolfenstein PC (insert any old game title here) as I do WaW.

Games with technical excellence will belong to the PS3, unless Microsoft figures out a way to catch up quickly. However, when it comes to exclusives that are gripping and enjoyable to play, Sony is still playing catchup.

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:24:16 PM

For future reference GoW shall always mean God of War, and GeoW shall always mean Gears of War.

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Joe_III
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:43:27 PM

umm... to you maybe, but GoW is gears and GooW is god of war to me.

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dlte
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:31:18 AM

howabout Gears of War be referred to as Gears and God of War be GoW, like it has been since it was released, 20 whole months earlier.

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Troy Powers
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:11:17 AM

Yes.
GoW = God of War (ie GoW 3)
Gears = Gears of War (ie Gears 2)

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:56:54 AM

Joe...How the hell do you figure a Game that came ages after God of War can steal its acronym? If you call Gears GoW, you should be shot on sight. Thief...

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Orvisman
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:51:26 AM

Then you are the only one Joe_III, especially since GoW was released long before Gears was Gears.

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Joe_III
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:44:55 PM

sorry all, just having a bit of fun...it was originally a typo that apparently turned into a fabulously subtle troll.

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kprambo
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:03:39 PM
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I love uncharted I agree with what your saying ben but I would not say anything about gears because unlike uncharted I dont even think gears 3 has been worked on yet and if it has who knows how long it will take to come out. I do though agree that uncharted will be a stand alone show case that puts others to shame.

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somethingrandom
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:22:37 PM
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Thing is... Gears of War 3 won't have a significant graphical leap unless it doesn't come out until XBOX 720, or it's a PS3 exclusive.

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rell
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:31:59 AM

cliffy b already said they all most max out the 360 dvd for gears. Ive got a feeling that gears 3 won't be much of a upgrade from the 2nd gears.

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LCF
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:23:37 PM
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Ben, honestly did you expect anything less from the PS3? Looking at exclusives on the PS3 there is no competition. With higher technology available on the PS3, developers can make some truely amazing looking games and with higher tech you can improve on old style gameplay like make it more fluid and look and feel more natural.

Lets take humans for an example. Humans in video games is one of the most difficult to pull off. Why? Because we see us all the time. We can nit-pick every little detail. Nathan Drake is the most human character I have ever seen in a video game in every respect of the term(sorry Snake). Why are human characters being used on the UE3 look so damn bulky?. Even Mass Effect did not look right.

You are seeing images of a unfinished game that puts gears to shame(graphically speaking).
You wont see 3rd party games of this quality and caliber unless they drop the X360 crutch and lead with the PS3 development then dummy it down to the X360.

I think we will in time once the developers see all these critically acclaimed games from Sony's 1st and 2nd parties. 2008 showed that most if not all the high quality games were from Sony's own game studios.

Now from my understanding RTE1080 might be the middleware for the PS3 (like how X360 got the unreal engine 3.5) RTE1080 runs 1080p @ 60fps, standard. I wont know this for sure, maybe in a couple of months(hope GDC spills the beans). But if this is the case, it would be great news for 3rd party developers working on the PS3.

Wonder if someone at Gamestop is going to tell me that Uncharted 2 is going to be multiplat, like how the 1st Uncharted was suppose to be. Dumbass.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:03:16 AM

Ya know LCF, for the longest time, I thought you were just relying on speculaton and conjecturing regarding the Cell. But after playing top exclusives, from both the PS3 and the 360, and owning them, I can vouche for what you say without bias. The ps3 is the superior piece of hardware, with it's exclusives as the firmest proof.

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LCF
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:10:01 AM

Wait till near the end of the PS3. You will be amazed looking back to this time. Like I said, Sony invested alot for us gamers.

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cegmp
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:42:20 AM

"Like I said, Sony invested alot for us gamers." -- So true.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, February 04, 2009 @ 11:58:16 PM
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Gears of War is nothing I care 'bout

There's no label I hate more than the "blank game to be blank game killer."

It's just cheesy, Uncharted will kick ass, period!

The first one is a blast! Can't wait to get this next masterpiece in my hands!

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KBsocks
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:03:39 AM
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I thought Uncharted was suppose to be the Tomb Raider killer but I guess it was already kinda dead and Uncharted just curb stomped it.

Personally I liked Uncharted better mainly because more vibrant colors then Gears and this is just a personal thing but Gears felt a little heavy for me while Uncharteds controller was more fluid. Also nothing against Gears but a kick ass voice acting isn't so bad either.

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Bo0mKiiD
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:14:20 AM
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I wouldn't even begin to compare those two games, not graphic wise nor story.It's just not halal or kosher for the Jewish.

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Tha_Joker_186
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:47:00 AM
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Both games are good in both ways is all I can say, the story, the graphics, the gameplay. They are both great games and you just can't compare these two games. Try to compare Quantum Theory when the game hits then we have a real comparison here.

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Itdoesntmatter
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:47:34 AM
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Uncharted is a MASTERPIECE...my brother who gets every system but has never finished a game in his life, finished this one in a week and was thrilled to do it...it's a game that captures your interest and immerses you into what's going on...the high production value is clearly visible in this one as soon as you pop the disc in.

Nothing against Gears of War but it's just not for me...to me, it's a bit much on the arcadish side and the roided/testosterone characters using oversized weapons completely turned me off...the voice acting and enemy sounds just felt teenagerish too...its what put me off of MGO too...its just imo

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InfiniteRetro
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:09:22 AM
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i think if they make gears of war 3 and keep it on the xbox it wont look much different to gow2. in saying that, some ppl may not have a problem with it but the idea of a series is to build on its previous entry in some way, graphics, gameplay and story are the main factors. thats why uncharted 2 will haul all sorts of ass, let alone imagining what uncharted 3 could do.

all xbots have is halo and gears. thats it. two SHOOTING games without about as much appeal as sitting on a flushing toilet.

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Troy Powers
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:15:18 AM
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Joystiq ran two articles on Uncharted 2 yesterday that now have me salivating for this game.

I'm so disappointed you ran this article after Josh was banned. I picture him somewhere reading it and exploding in his seat from the sheer frustration of not being able to post a comment.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:01:58 AM

Pssh, some friend you are... :D

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InfiniteRetro
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:17:05 AM
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LOL too true mate to true.

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AgentX
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:20:46 AM
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Theres nothing wrong with this article i think its great putting both aspects together, great job Im the man

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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:41:23 AM
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First of all, the title is flamebait for fanboys. The words "-insert game title here- killer" is probably the most overused and cliched term to describe any upcoming game that is receiving a decent amount of hype. In reality, no game franchise ever actually killed another because the experience had with a great classic will forever live on in that gamer. 2nd...this comparison is way off. Adventure with some platforming vs. a shooter to the fullest is an awkward comparison. Methinks Mr. D had a bit too much caffeine and did some extra nights work.

Resistance/Killzone vs Gears would be a better comparison because they attract the same type of fans.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:44:29 AM
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Uncharted 1 has better textures, resolutions, colors, cut-scenes, animation, controls, AI, physics engine, sound, voice acting talent, and music than both Gears1 and 2. Sorry, if I'm shamelessly neglecting diplomacy, but I assure you all, I'm not being a fanboy. I actually wanted Gears2 to be better, since it was a more recently released game, but it had nothing on Uncharted. The only thing Uncharted was missing that Gears had was online play.

And Ben, if by "fluid", you meant zero load times, then I concur, they were comparable. But regarding animation, Gears looked absolutely cruddy compared to Uncharted, with the exception of the stomp animations. And as for the story, it was a drag, just like the action. I liked Marcus Fenix, and some of his lines were cool but all his peons just came across as prision b1tches most of the time. There was one good scene in the game, which was actually moving, but everything else came accross as ineffectual and sappy. The action was not significantly different in Uncharted, but moving around didn't feel like backing up a truck, and the fighting fields were far more diverse; and even during the lulls in the action, you had puzzles, cutscenes closer to hollywood, with far more expressive facial expressions and more professional voice-acting, and at the very least, enchanting graphics that just kept you awe-struck.

If anyone has detected any irritation in my type, you've observed correctly. Why am I bitching? Because, for the most part, I invested in a 360 because of all the hype around Gears, and felt the need to experience what all the hype was about. I had a suspicion that Uncharted would've been enough for experiencing a Gears-like experience, and as it turns out I was wrong: Uncharted was far more than just "enough". So when people add to the hype of Gears, yes, I do become a little agitated, because if they were just a couple more voices of reason out there, I wouldn't have wasted my bloody money. It was a good game. But I'll put it this way, if it were on the ps3, I would've bought it new, played the single-player, and traded it in after a week or two.

I hope everyone knows, I'm not attacking anyone personally. And if anyone has taken offense, please accept my apologies. I just had to get that out, because it has been something that has been nagging me for past year or so. And yeah, Uncharted is a total Gears-killer, even if millions of xbots don't buy in to it. The only thing about the 360 experience left to be admired is their voice-chat.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:53:21 AM
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And for the record, I didn't feel even feel that MGS4 was any more fun than Gears2. In fact, crawling around as an aging man wasn't exactly an adrenaline rush. But what it had was production values and brilliant graphics and sound that were undeniable and mesmerizing. But even compared to MGS4, Uncharted was a prettier, and more fun game.

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LCF
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:18:28 AM

MGS4 was the only game that really moved me like no other game has. Snake keep getting his ass handed to him. At the END to end it, well I'm set no spoilers. But that moment, the death of a gaming icon was very hard to swallow.

With Uncharted, Nathan Drake is a very human likable character and seeing the 1st teaser trailer him in the snow bleeding and beat to hell in the cold was tough to swallow as well.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:46:23 AM

No doubt Hideo san is a brilliant man. I just wished he would tone down the crude tones and creepy androgenous and nauseating bisexual undertones that seem to always creep into his games. But besides those, it's amazing how he is able to touch everything in the universe ranging from global politics, science, romance, and universal things such as self-realistion and philosophy. He really poured his soul into his games, while simultaneously managing to implement cutting edge technology and game design. The guy is incredibly ambitious and is nothing short of a genius.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:07:51 AM

Yeah I'll have to agree. Uncharted was a bit better than both Gears and MGS4. All though I love all 3 games.

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migabyte
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:54:02 AM
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I noticed someone mention RE5, and someone said they didn't like the demo. Fair enough. I loved it. Two player with head sets was sooooo intense. Yelling at each other "help me I'm dying". But I don't think it will do well on the X360. Everyone is gonna compare it to GeOW. Not a fair comparison, but one that X360 owners are going to make. I have actually never even played GeOW (I live in SKorea, not many game shops and such), but I think I understand what it's about. RE5 is the antithesis I think. A slow burner VS fast action.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:07:47 AM

I guess that is what I was missing. I didn't play the mutiplayer, so I'm sure there is fun to be had there as you say when you and another person got your act together and no what you're doing. Since I was only playing single-player, I did not enjoy the sluggish movement, and last-gen controls. But maybe I'll play it at some point when in it hit's the bargain bin.

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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:16:47 AM

I'm with you migabyte. I liked the demo very much. This game SHOULD NOT be compared to Gear because it's a totally different experience. I hope it sells well on both systems so it ensures future iterations.

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aaronisbla
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:21:22 AM

aftab if it helps set the controls on type A, it might be old but its based off the RE4 controls

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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:23:49 AM

Actually, why am I even worrying if it will sell well on both systems. The name itself will sell the game and I'm pretty sure Capcom will deliver the goods with gameplay.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:36:14 AM

Thanks, Aaron. I guess I'll give it a try at some point. And sorry all, about the pointless rants, and painfully erroneous grammar. Mr. Dutka, feel free to delete my walls of text. I guess I just need some sleep.

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KevinCairo
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:13:16 AM
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I personally found it funny watching a developer interview about Gears 2 and them saying they think of it as art. Sure, the environments might be somewhat interesting and artistic visually, but chainsaw guns and art don't exactly go hand in hand.

I haven't played either so I can't make a decisive statement about the matter, but I don't think I'd get Gears even if I had a 360 -- not my type of game. Uncharted's cinematic feel makes it more appealing to me by a long shot.

Realistically though, I wouldn't be surprised if Uncharted 2 doesn't exactly surpass Gears because Sony doesn't manage to overtake Microsoft in its install base. As much faith as I have in the PS3, it's still a big gap to close considering the extra year on the market for the 360. It's not that it shouldn't rightfully tower luminously over Gears; I just know how stubborn people are about console favorites.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:21:45 AM

Why do people care so much about bloody sales figures? I'm just glad that the ps3 is here to stay, and that I can expect titles that are of the best quality, more fun, and better suited to my tastes as well. A billion acne-stricken, intellectually malformed teenagers can stick to the 360 for all I care, and play Halo for the rest of their lives. And let Sony stick to their audience.

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LCF
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:27:33 AM

Kevin, Video Game Design is an Art Form. Alot of production goes into video games. Some can become careless and only want the quick buck, but most want to get their story,ideas out to share with everyone...just like an Artist.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:59:15 AM

Clarification to all: "Some", as in Epic.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:03:38 AM

And the "Artist" as in Kojima Hideo.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:16:35 AM

Hey Has anyone seen Any KZ2 ads yet? What happened to the 2 million they had invested in the game... They are running behind schedule.

And I think Ben posted the title to this article specifically for "Someone" to see it. Like adding salt to an open wound.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 11:12:57 AM

I don't know, Wizard, since I don't watch TV much. Didn't it have ad time during the Superbowl? My guess is that alone would've costed them the two mil, alone, or a good chunk of it.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:29:57 PM

Nope, I watched the super bowl in its entirety and there was no KZ, or even a PS3 ad.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:06:00 PM

Sh*t.

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fundando
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:39:25 AM
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These games should not even be compared to each other. They aren't even in the same genre and cater to different crowds. We got killzone 2 soon that should be compared to gears not Drake. and another.

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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:44:54 AM

Exactly! I'm still trying to find a reason why it should be compared. Other than the fact that they both look pretty, nothing really comes to mind.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:58:01 AM

Both are 3rd person where you go bang-bang.

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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:13:06 AM

Ahhh, k. By your logic, we should compare Uncharted series as a killer of these other games where it's "3rd person where you go bang bang":

Res Evil Series
Metal Gear series
Dead Space
Silent Hill
Too Human
Fracture
Alone in the Dark
The Darkness
World of Warcraft(played in 3rd person -Hunters- in the game use guns where you go bang bang) btw it was my main character in WoW

should i go on or do you want me to stop? I think you're gonna want me to stop. I'm pretty sure u liked that last comparison.

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LCF
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:50:53 AM

Being a Devil's Avo. In any of those games you listed ec0li have a cover system like how gears and uncharted have? Have you played Uncharted?. Most of the reviewers complained there was too many bad guys to kill, are we forgetting that?. Can you honestly sit there and tell me that Gears 1 and 1.5 are of the same quality as Uncharted? Im even only talking about the 1st. The 2nd Uncharted is looking to even blow that away in production value. Sorry but you'll find MORE quality games on the PS3 and I'm thinking thats what at the heart of this article, quality.

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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:24:42 AM

@LCF

Actually, if you read my first comment on this thread...my argument is not about quality. I'm not questioning the quality of both games here, I'm questioning the COMPARISON and the ridiculous flamebait title. I personally don't give a rat's ass about which system has better games and I've advocated the advantages of owning multiple systems. I think you're misinformed if you think the heart of this article is about the PS3 having more quality games(subjective to say the least). More power to you if that's the case, but you're grasping at straws if you think that was the point of the article. Read it again and you'll see how the author is even trying to isolate Gears and Uncharted within their own world. I'll give you a tip. If you look at what Uncharted and Gears are listed as, one is a SHOOTER and the other is ACTION ADVENTURE. Guess which one is which?

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LCF
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:53:53 AM

Maybe you should re-read the article again. I see comparison of 2 game series. Quality being the heart of it. I own both consoles as well. I can tell you that Uncharted: Drake's Fortune, has better over all quality then Gears 1.5. BTW you still have not answered my questions to you. So instead of being concerned with me "grasping at straws" Re-read the article then re-read my 1st post about quality. Or are you still worried about my straws?.

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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 11:42:12 AM



Btw, Ec0li, RE4, RE5, Dark Sector ("Darkness" was an fps), Deadspace, and even MGS4 have all been compared to Gears or vice-versa. As for the other games, I haven't played them.

So Uncharted throws some platforming and puzzles in to the mix to break up monotony. What? It's no longer a shooter, then?

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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:48:22 PM

@Aftab

Yer right, I meant to say Dark Sector and not Darkness. Too many "Dark" games gets me confused. Uncharted may have shooting, but it ain't no shooter. You might as well call Uncharted a platformer cause it has some jumping if that's the case. It's a jack of all trades game that has many elements and that is why it's listed as an action/adventure. A shooter is a shooter because 90 percent of what you do in the game is shoot people's faces off.


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Aftab
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:21:20 PM

Central to Uncharted is the gunplay. Enemies flank you, and run for cover (even more intellegently than in Gears, mind you). You run for cover and make the best of your environment, selecting the best weaponry appropriate for each kind of enemy, while micromanaging your ammo. This is where the majority of the gameplay is. As for the platforming between the fights, out of 12-15 hours of gameplay, I'd be suprised if there's even an hours worth (leaving more than 90% for gunfights). But ok, call it an action-adventurer. But to say that Gears can't be compared to Uncharted, because in Uncharted you have some other platforming elements and puzzles is ignoring the fact that they both have gunplay, enemy ai, not to mention, graphics, controls, sound, and cutscenes that can be compared straight up. That's all I'm saying.

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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 11:36:42 PM

@Aftab

Point taken! We'll just have to agree to disagree. Now if Killzone2 was used instead as the "Gears Killer" then I would only argue about the "..... killer" term only. I would not have argued the comparison at all. I guess that's pretty much all I have to say about this.

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Sir Shak
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 2:42:13 AM
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Two different games . The day Marcus Fenix is seen swinging on vines is when I will make a comparison .

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xnonsuchx
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:06:46 AM
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So I don't get this... The admins of this site complain about people getting into console wars and then they incite it w/ article titles like this??? :-)

I'm just kinda getting sick of things HAVING to be a someone-else's-favorite-such-and-such killer. Good things should be judged on their own merits. The title of this article gives credence to KZ2 reviews that say it doesn't add much more to what CoD 4 already delivered.

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ec0li
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:18:08 AM

Bingo!

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migabyte
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:51:41 AM
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Actually, they don't seem to mind the debating. They just appear (like myself), to dislike the childish name calling. This is after all a PS site. Why anyone who doesn't have a PS3, or is thinking of getting one, comes here is beyond me. Strange behaviour.

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city96
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:01:33 AM
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Gears2 get quite laggy when the helicopter bit smashes. everything goes fuzzy and rubbish compare that to when in COD4 the nuclear bomb takes out everything

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___________
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:27:13 AM
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how can you compare a platformer to a FPS?
the closest thing to gears 2 would have to be R2 or KZ2

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Godslim
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:42:47 AM

uncharted isnt a platformer lol its a 3rd person shooter/action adventure

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coverton341
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 11:57:45 AM

How the hell did the nameless one get a thumb for that statement. And no one is comparing LBP (a platformer) or Mario (another platformer) to an FPS which mind you Gears is not an FPS it is a 3rdPS......

The pain I feel reading sometimes is unbearable.

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ceedot
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 4:57:00 AM
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In the end, no game can 'kill' another game. It's kind of stupid, especially the games are so different. If the games are good, people will still buy them. This article makes Me embarrased for the staff, and makes them seem so bias towards the PS3. It's like they've dug deep just to put down the 360 ( although it is shit, but come on, this is a bit too far.)

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www
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 5:05:44 AM
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Yea right,i think Uncharted is better than Gears2 IN TERMS of fun and replayability BUT in terms of action-packed gameplay with movie-like elements....i think Gears2 got it.

Overall errrrrrrrrrrrr...........Uncharted has the edge but i really think Uncharted should be compared to gears1 and Uncharted2 compared to Gears2.

Ben i wuld appreciate it if the next article was,KILLZONE 2:THE RESISTANCE KILLER?
but that would be after K2 has been long released and we're all able to share our thoughts.

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K ASH
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 5:18:39 AM
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I second that we should not compare gears & uncherterd based on the genre they fall in, because its clear that each game has its own distinct feel even if they share some. Uncharterd was designed with quality, beauty, artistry in mind which most of uncharted fans feels/believes is better than whats being offered by gears which is just plain action wich is fun. I wonder what Epic next IP is going to be? I believe i already know that.
Ben, i checked out a new 10min gameplay vid for Demons Souls on youtube, i must admit i was skeptical about the game since i read that its going 2 be like oblivion wich i dont like. But DS looks way better the animation, gameplay, the huge bosses. i liked what i saw hope to see & hear more.

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Redx17
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:05:06 AM
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i third the motion of not comparing cross platform games on this site even tho we all know UC2:AT will blow away anything. let's not make a flame post even tho some xbots are banned :)

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TEG3SH
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:15:48 AM
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both are good ,and they surprisingly are much alike.
cover, shoot, run, push a lever then do it all again, the only deference was one was red the other was green, the only way uncharted can kick Geow's ass is to implement online and the lancer that sh** is the sh**.lol welcome back josh ;)

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aaronisbla
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:25:32 AM
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im in agreement of not comparing them, especially with the title of "*insert game name here* killer" as it will draw negative attention, even with the question mark in the title.

i do think both games are kinda similar, especially with the cover mechanic and the shooting from said cover

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Sir Shak
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:33:56 AM
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The reason this comparison is not valid is that the developers of uncharted said they wanted to create a game that had gameplay elements of different genres in it , thus the platforming , puzzles , shooting and even that little survival/horror bit in the end . They are going to expand on this idea by adding stealth and free climbing in the sequel.

While gears is a shooter through and through , uncharted is an excellent merger of different genres. Both great games but inherently different .

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Alienange
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:56:05 AM
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Even with all the shooting in Uncharted I still get a sense of fear and vulnerability. In Gears I feel like I'm unstoppable. I think this is mostly in part to the characters you play, but it's true, the shooting and hiding in third person is nearly the same thing. As such, Uncharted was much better IMO.

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pavlovic
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:40:24 AM
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I played both Gears and Uncharted... and the Uncharted's fun factor is way aboooooooooove Gears 1 & 2.

I finished U:DF 3 or 4 times, while Gears there were 2 and Gears 2 just one.

This comparison between these 2 games, is kind of weird. I heard a lot of xbots saying that Uncharted was a copy of Gears, because the covering system... just dumb.

Graphically, I'll stick with Uncharted over the 2 gears.

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big6
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:10:06 AM
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Guys, calm down, man.... I totally see where Ben is drawing the comparisons from.

Uncharted is a 3rd Person game with a cover-system that is very similar to Gears. Picture playing Uncharted when you encounter a bunch of bad guys and the fighting starts. This is directly comparable to Gears when you get into a firefight.

Forget the genre and battlefield vs. jungle exploration comparisons... that's not what he's talking about!

And yes, because of this 3rd person shooter w/ cover system mechanic, Gears can never be compared to full-fledged First-Person Shooters like R2 or Killzone 2.

Make sense??

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SmileyGrenades
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:14:15 AM
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ehhhhhh....Why'd he have to say the word "killer"... I thought we were all friends here? lol.

Seriously though, unless you're looking for hits and flame-bait is your style, I'd suggest not making headlines with the words "game:______ Killer". The less we gamers see it, the better off games will be.

Such a malicious phrase, Ben.. Why'd u do that? :(

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SmileyGrenades
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:17:02 AM
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Still lovin' the site, don't take it the wrong way. It's just that I kinda winced when I saw that the article was tied to psxextreme.

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SmileyGrenades
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:40:07 AM
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All that aside though, I can definetly see uncharted innovating further upon Gear's 3rd person cover system which was innvoated from Kill.Switch combined with RE4, so on and so on...

Uncharted 2 could have an amazing multiplayer component if done right. If they are able to keep the gunplay solid, and perhaps some loadout options, it'd easily surpass Gears 2.. I have a feeling Gears3 will have taken a few pages out of Guerrilla's books when the time comes (namely the tricks they used to create that cinematic feeling, as well as the hit response system and the bullet-impact effects, they'll need it all to not get caught up in gears 2.5 like Gears 2 did).

But hey, here's something to think about. In terms of Gears 2 being outdone, if Sony had released Eight Days at launch, I think it would've eaten Gears 1 alive. It had also been in development longer I'm prettysure, so if they had released Eight Days even a month before Gears 1, I think it would've knocked about 50% of the 360's wind out it its sails.

If anyone remember seeing the Eight Days cover system demo, you'll know what I mean. I would have most definetly knocked gears down a couple hundred pegs (The animation was unmatched, not to mention the graphics were totally off the chain for a could-be launch or near-launch title). Just to prove I'm not spewing BS out of my mouth, check them out here:

For the cover:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJFDQadSYzg&feature=related

For the trailer (in case u haven't it yet)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDOZvKWXDP4


Maybe Sony canned it because having two of the same types of games may have been cluttering it. I dunno. I'd take the cover system I see in those demos over Uncharted any day.

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big6
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:45:14 AM
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Agreed, bad choice of words to use "_______ Killer" for anything. I think that just attracts fanboy antics/comments.

...but maybe that was the idea, to stir things up??

(still, I'd rather see things stirred up another way, without the use of a *something*-Killer label)

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SmileyGrenades
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 9:52:14 AM
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Hmmmm.. Comment pending huh? Probably has to do with the two youtube links I included. APPROVE IT BEN I KNOW U WANNA!

It'll uhh.... Shed some.... light... on things?

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DGo8
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:24:42 AM
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Btw people from UK/EU...Killzone 2 demo is on PS Store now :D:D im downloading it now

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:32:56 AM
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First of all, I figured everyone would be a little more Internet savvy. Nobody takes the word "killer" seriously; it's merely asking if Uncharted will top Gears in terms of quality, not if Gears will die. ...c'mon people, have some common sense.

Secondly, of COURSE both games are in the same genre. No, they're not identical, but what games ARE? Both Uncharted and Gears fall into the action or action/adventure categories, plain and simple.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:31:14 PM

Well said.

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Scarecrow
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 8:09:12 PM

Gears' irrelevant at this moment

I see Gears as a "has been" game.

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ceedot
Monday, February 09, 2009 @ 7:06:34 AM

Then just say 'will uncharted surpass the quality of gears?, not 'killer'. No, it's not 'common sence'. Don't try make your readers seem stupid or ignorant.

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Vivi_Gamer
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:35:51 AM
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meh i didn like gears for the fact of the characters being silly bulky men with hard nut attitudes, also they moved really slow in gameplay, Drake mov alot faster and has charisma, hence why i like it more.

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coverton341
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:01:23 PM

Agreed about the bulky meathead characters of Gears. Granted I did not mind the game all that much but I was not a fan of the character design or character development and I mean development as in the development progress through the game like a character in a book.

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big6
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:48:37 AM
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No, I never thought the term "_____ Killer" was to mean that it was going to die a horrible death.
I do know you meant that one will surpass the other on whatever the comparison is...

However, the term "_____ Killer" has a negative connotation, and hardcore fans of the game being "killed" in question will adamantly reject that statement and defend their choice game.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 11:25:39 AM

...that isn't my problem. Kids will be kids.

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Orvisman
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 10:53:21 AM
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Uncharted 2 looks awesome!

Check out the new screenshots over at the Magic Box:

the-magicbox dot com/0902/game090203b.shtml

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coverton341
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:03:17 PM

Dude who is the new chick and is the original chick going to be back? The original was cool I don't like change!!

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BlinkBoy
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:43:36 PM
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Gears of War is already dead to me, but Uncharted 2 seems to be advancing from the first in to even greater game

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NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 12:45:55 PM
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Both games have good voice acting (though i think Uncharted was a bit better), but keep in mind that Uncharted has a script that doesnt suck. I literally laughed out loud the first time Marcus said "lock and load!" I yelled at my pc "am i effing 12 years old? NO!"

Uncharted WILL be great. NaughtyDog has yet to make a bad game. Or a good game for that matter. All of their games are GREAT in every aspect. Great story, believable characters, polished gameplay...

Gears may look prettier (the pc version is gorgeous, i havent played the 360 version), but Uncharted has everything polished, not just the visuals.

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fundando
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:03:19 PM
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NE ways the Killzone 2 Demo is live NOW. Get off the gaming message boards go play games. ANybody want to see if there was any truth that redemption codes were re-usable PM me I'll send you my code.
I stand to my point these games shouldn't be compared.

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Arvis
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:13:13 PM
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So I went to X-play's website to watch their review of Killzone 2 (gave it a 5/5 but still managed to unfairly insult the PS3 in one instance) and guess who I saw spreading his nonsense all over the comments section? That's right, good ol' JoshuaAdam360. Looks like he is disinclined to learn anything at all, and he isn't as level-headed as some of us would have liked to believe.

The funny part was that one of the comments on X-play's review read: "I'm glad Ben banned you," directed at Joshua. The PSXExtreme community is a mighty crowd, indeed.

-Arvis

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:38:54 PM

Heh. I knew what he was for quite a while. The fanboys can try any disguise they like...it won't get past me. ;)

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tlpn99
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 1:23:48 PM
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I enjoyed both games but did prefer Drake a lil more. I liked Drake's attitude, looking forward to Uncharted 2 and Gears 3 :)

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smileys_007
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 3:55:26 PM
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@arvis

What is the website of the x-play? i wanna see josh's comments there.. hehe!

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bamf
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 6:19:52 PM
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With gears all the visuals were in a small areas while Uncharted is more open. With this I think Uncharted had better visuals overall and higher detail. With Gears 2 nogt being a graphical leap over Gears 1, Uncharted's visuals is comparable with Gears 2.

What we'll see Naughty Dog do with Uncharted 2, I'm sure we'll all be blown away.

There were those rumours some time back that had us believe that M$ only had exclusive right for just the first 2 Gears and not for the 3rd.
http://www.ps3vault.com/gears-of-war-3-on-ps3-2534

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TEG3SH
Thursday, February 05, 2009 @ 7:00:48 PM
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so , am drunk ???? LOL

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Ghost_of_Sparta
Saturday, February 07, 2009 @ 10:27:37 PM
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Uncharted is totally a Gears killer. I mean Uncharted's multiplayer just PWNS! Oh wait..

Seriously though, as much as I like Uncharted, it needs a really good multiplayer component and a lot more violence to "replace" Gears IMO. A similar cover system and 3rd person view is about all these games seem to have in common...

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