Sony Explains Their View Of The Digital Download Debate

bxshotboi
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 10:23:52 PM
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well in a way its cool for sony to make downloadable copies of a game but only for its handheld system i personally would rather run around with plenty of games on my memory stick the way i do now wit cfw as compared to runnin wit a bunch of umds in a dam bag but wen it comes to my ps3 i much rather have the disc itself since i already have a problem with tryin to keep my hdd wih enough space for the dlc and installs for certain games ( mind u im currently runnin on 320 gb hard drive and all movies are on an external hd) so imagine the extra money we ps3 owners would have to put in in order to buy the digital copies of games and constantly having to uprade our hdd n lets not forget about poor gamestop i love all the extras they give out with games

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 9:19:54 AM

Jesus Christ...use puncuation. Your comment was almost unreadable...actually I read about 1/3 of it and gave up.

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Qubex
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 10:29:03 AM

LOL!

Q!

"i am home"

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kevinater321
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 10:29:09 PM
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i really enjoy going to the store and buying a game. its just adds more hype to the game itself. and lets not forget the nice "New Game Smell". Everone loves going to the store and buying games. If we didn't many people would be out of jobs(like mentioned in the article)lets hope that sony sticks with disks but adds the option of downloads

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Orvisman
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 10:18:54 AM

AMEN!

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Qubex
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 10:30:02 AM

There is something satisfying with handing over 6 crisp 10 dollar notes for a game; ain't there?

Q!

"i am home"

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IonHawk
Monday, March 16, 2009 @ 1:43:31 PM

I prefer games on discs too, but it's also been a long time since I bought any game at full retail. I generally use Gamefly to rent the games and if it turns out any good, buy it for a much reduced rate (typically 48$) - even got a brand-new copy of Killzone 2 this way - can't beat those savings. Even if I cannot get some game from Gamefly, I just buy it from Amazon - no tax and free 2-day shipping for Prime members just can't be beat by any brick-and-mortar place.
Of course the bargain bins at Best buy are awesome-scored a new copy of Ratchet and Clank and Jak 3 for 5-10$ :)

Last edited by IonHawk on 3/16/2009 1:43:45 PM

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bxshotboi
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 10:38:13 PM
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lol i love goin to pick up my games and that feeling u get knowing u finally have the disc its awesome and its so funny cause so many people mention that amazingly great smell of sumtin new i was like that wen i got my ps3 it was so great lol

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bxshotboi
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 10:39:18 PM
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PSN: BXsHotBoi

i have plenty of games new and old so if u want to play add me and leave a message

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crapreviews
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 10:46:06 PM
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ummm i would care less if gamestop went out of business. has anyone ever thought that the companys making these games could save money on discs, cases, instruction books, and so on by going DLC?

a lot of times when companys save money guess what.... consumers get lower prices. it may not be much... but any amount of savings in todays economy is helpful.

i wouldnt mind not having to step out of my house to buy brand new games. think about it. every new game could have a midnight release right on the store.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 11:01:32 PM

all true, but right now as of this moment, would you be able to buy, dl, AND be able to hold the memory needed and support for it? that's a lot of space for so few games

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crapreviews
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 11:06:26 PM

well i got like 200gb to spare so i would be good for a few games.

im just saying that i would like the choice of being able to DLC games if i choose to. you could either go to the store and buy the game or just go to the PSN store.

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www
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 4:35:14 AM

Seriously,the idea of deleting old games just to make up for nou ones is crap!
I love disc COLLECSHAN!(collection)

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Alienange
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 5:00:27 AM

"lot of times when companys save money guess what.... consumers get lower prices"

What did you base that comment on? Sorry but Burnout is $20 on PSN and $20 in the stores. Consumers won't save diddly squat from digital downloads.

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crapreviews
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 10:19:55 AM

@Alienange

so lets see. the ps3 has gotten cheaper due to production costs that have come down over time. LCD tv's have gotten cheaper over time due to production costs coming down.

do i really need to go on?

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Orvisman
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 10:24:40 AM

You beat me to it Alienange.

Warhawk also sold for $40 online and on disc, as does Socom, sans headseats.

It would be nice if the companies passed on the savings to us, but they won't.

Also, I'd rather have the discs beacuse 10 years from now I want to know I can pull Killzone 2 off my shelf and play it.

I don't want to have to worry about my hard drive breaking and not being able to redownload my games because Sony is no longer supporting PS3 game downloads on the PS5.

In addition, the only way I can buy as many games as I do is by buying the bulk of them used. Downloads will prevent this.

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crapreviews
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 10:38:28 AM

@Orvisman

"In addition, the only way I can buy as many games as I do is by buying the bulk of them used. Downloads will prevent this."

DUDE!! no disrespect but you should not even be talking at all. do you realize you are part of the reason why we pay the prices we do now?

when you buy a used game the DEVS of that game get NO, NO, NO, NO money at all from that sale of the used game. when you choose to buy used games, all you are doing is supporting the store that is selling them. you are in NO way supporting the DEVS who spent years making the game.

im not saying buying used is always a bad thing, cuz there are times if you want something old that is not made anymore you can look for it used. BUT, to buy games used that are still being made, frankly IMO is a disgrace to the DEVS of the game.

Last edited by crapreviews on 3/12/2009 10:39:15 AM

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Alienange
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:49:46 PM

mixedkidbox, weren't we talking about digital downloads and not manufacturing? Actually I think you made another point against DD. With products that are manufactured the prices do eventually come down. With digital downloads there is zero incentive to lower the price over time. Example? $30 for Shimmering Isles.

And if Orvisman wants to buy second hand games, let him! What's it to you? You actually buy into that bs about game prices being higher because of people buying second hand? If publishers are so upset, why not pull their products off the shelves of GameStop. That'd teach 'em. But they don't because it doesn't matter. People who buy used were never going to buy new in the first place.

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chuygr35
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:05:40 PM

@LimitedV

can you please tell me which game on disk is cheaper for download? for the PS3 of course no PSP games. burnout is the same, so is socom, and warhawk.

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Orvisman
Friday, March 13, 2009 @ 9:42:09 AM

@mixedkidbx,

You have a right to believe what you believe, but I don't think buying second-hand games is what's wrong with the industry.

Honestly, I believe developers at the begining of this gen thought if they raised the price on games by $10 that would be another $10 million lining their coffers if they sold one million units. In other words, they got greedy.

Trust me, I don't feel guilty. Why sould I? If a game shows up used a week or two after it is released and I can save $10-$20 off the new price, I'd be stupid not to do that because I can get three used games for the price of two new games. Add in some extra discounts with coupons, coupled with my Edge card, or a B2G1 free sale, and my savings are magnified.

I used to buy all my games new; but because I buy tons of them, by the time I got around to playing some of them I noticed the prices were lower on new copies and even lower on used games. Factor in my importing proclivities, and I realized I could stretch my gaming dollar by waiting a few weeks to a few months to a year for games to show up used.

I came to this realization when the PS2/DC/GC/Xbox were fighting for my gaming dollar.

Furthermore, why should I feel guilty when developers are nickel and diming us to death for content and modes that should have shipped on the disc. Last gen, the Alaska and Pitt missions for Fallout 3 or the Tomb Raider DLC would have shipped on the disc.

And don't get me started on extra character skins or costumes (SFIV I'm looking at you) or modes (RE 5's multiplayer modes), which should definitely have been included on disc as unlockable incentives.

Like I wrote before, if I get nostalgic 10 years from now and want to play RE 5 or Killzone 2 or SF IV, I can take the disc off my shelf and fire up the PS3 (or PS 5 if it is backward compatible). But if the game proper, or DLC, is on my HD and that HD is broken, I've essentially lost all my games and DLC I've paid to own; and whose to say Sony will have the conetnt up on the PSN for me to redownload (even if they did, why should I have to pay for it again!).

By the way, I do buy new games; but I'm more selective these days.

For instance, it is very hard to buy used Japanese games because the big Japanese retailers won't ship overseas. And while I can buy new games from NCS or HMV Japan or PlayAsia, only the latter offers a handful of used games.

I also buy new PS3 games that I CAN'T wait for to show up used: LBP, Killzone 2, SF IV, RE 5 (probably Infamous, Uncharted 2, GoWIII, GT5). Hell, I bought 3 copies of LBP new: two for gifts.

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bxshotboi
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 11:23:03 PM
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@mixedkidbx wit 200 gb hdd u wouldnt get far cuz mgs4 would already bring u down to 150 gb and yes u can delete the game and download it wenever u want again but who wants to wait for a 50 gb download everytime they want to download a game they previously purchased and deleted from the hdd....yes we would probably get the games for cheaper but wat about all the people/companies that make a living off of selling video games if they all go out of business that wouldnt really be helping the economy we would just have a whole bunch more jobless people we do need to be sympathetic and understanding as well

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crapreviews
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 11:28:25 PM

i wouldnt mind redownloading a game that i deleted. most times after i finish a game i really dont go back and play it often, so i could easily free up space for games i do play and then when i feel like i wanna play a game that i deleted i could just download it.

i understand it would cost a lot of people jobs, but jobs are always coming and going with the times. yes the economy sucks now, but in the future the economy could be back to where it was or even better. times change. things change. life goes on.

im sure a lot of people are struggling like myself, but we just gotta look towards the future and hope for the best. you can't stop the process of evolving.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 11:50:54 PM

but you won't be able to have the option of being able to dl really old games. at some point the server owners will decide, hey this game isn't doing well let's get rid of it, and then boom it's gone forever. no way to go to gamestop or any other video store and hopefully find it in the used section or of ebay and such. i'm fine with it being optional, like it being a choice between disk or dlc, but pure dlc is definitely something no one wants

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Totalz
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 3:21:27 AM

eh? MGS4s install memory is around 6gb

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Totalz
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 3:22:11 AM

wait...sorry just got what you meant. My bad

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www
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 4:38:48 AM

I would MIND redownloading a game,it sucks,i waste all the time downloading one,then my hdd crashes or something,you think i would smile redownloading it?

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 9:30:44 AM

Think about this Mixedkid:

Not everyone has broadband or DSL available in their area. I myself live in the boondocks and can't receieve high-speed internet, so in order to play online or download, I must travel 25 minutes to my aunt's house to use her connection.

And did you forget how strict the US is with download limits? If you hit that limit, you might as well have dial-up. I for one would rather any manufacturer wait until broadband ISP's are available to more people.

And just because YOU don't mind waiting to dl a 50 gb game doesn't mean others won't. And the thing you said about people losing their jobs was just plain ignorant. Like Obama said, "things will get worse before they get better". You might be well off right now, but millions of others around the world aren't fairing well at all in the economy.

EDIT: And all that "staying at home" stuff wouldn't help the already negative image us gamers receive. Going to pick up a new game might be a rare chance for some people to leave their house.

And I love going to a midnight release to talk to other gamers face to face about the anticipation we all have for the upcoming title. Exchanging gamertags or PSN ID's or what have you is alot of fun.

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crapreviews
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 10:25:49 AM

@PS3_Wizard

who ever said i was doing well in this economy? i know i didnt. also you guys are acting like im talking about this happening right this very second. this is something that is in talks for the future, and in the future this is a very good possibility.

Obama also has stated that he plans to give more money to projects designed to get Broadband to areas of the US that don't have them now. He wants all americans to be able to have Broadband.

I agree RIGHT now may not be the best time. But we aren't talking about right this second. We are talking about the near possible future. Im sure in a few years a lot of you may feel a lot different about this.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:44:56 AM

maybe...I still like going to stores though, plus I get a employee discount at gamestop!

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faraga
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 4:05:00 PM

you americans still have download limits?
in the netherlands there just arent any more companies who offer a deal that includes a limit, you can get a 20mb/s limitless broadband internet connection starting from 25 euros a month

i thought the usa was so "up to date"...

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Orvisman
Friday, March 13, 2009 @ 9:43:54 AM

@LegendaryWolfeh,

AMEN! That was exactly my point in my previous posts.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 11:27:44 PM
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Fine with me, it's optional and makes the game better, so why not?

Besides it fits the game, keeps the game fresh and all.

Who doesn't love the Street Fighter pack?

And so looking forward to Kai(from Heavenly Sword)!!!!!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:22:00 AM

What's all this about Kai now?

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Scarecrow
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 9:07:24 AM

She's being turned into a sackgirl!!!

Can't believe psxe hasn't reported on it... :(

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:39:41 PM

Thats awesome!

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Random_Steve
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:33:11 PM

ive already got her with the play.com preorder deal thing. only thing is is that i deleted the email with the coes by accident :(

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Qwarktast1c
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 11:53:44 PM
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call me old fashioned, but i like having the game on disc rather than dl

cause too much can go wrong with downloads

thats why its better to have a hard copy that will last forever..... unless you treat your stuff like crap

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Cpt_Geez
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:37:52 AM

Yeah II rather have the game on disc myself.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 9:38:57 AM

Like getting 80% finished, only to have the power flicker.

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KevinCairo
Wednesday, March 11, 2009 @ 11:57:36 PM
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Don't have the time to be downloading 50gb games!

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www
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 4:40:57 AM

Right! Besides i hate leaving my systems on for that long.
Imagine getting YLOD/RROD cause you were downloading a full huge game for several hours.

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somethingrandom
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:07:30 AM
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Don't do it yet, we need as many jobs (including retail) as possible!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:26:15 AM
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Must... hold... physical product, smell fresh plastic, enjoy artwork, insert things into slots...

Seriously though, when I went in to buy KZ2 I had that natural buzz like "Is it gonna be here?" "Isn't it?" "Where are the 'K's? "ABCDEFGHIJ-K!" (I don't preorder, I'm addicted to that buzz) And bam! There it was, so pretty, begging me to grab it and run to the front.

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Jed
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:40:49 AM
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It will be a generation or 2 before we have the storage capabilities to download all of our games.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 3:41:30 AM

I have over 8TB of storage space, you sure about that?

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ceedot
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 3:56:46 AM

we aren't all you.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 4:02:00 AM

It works both ways, we aren't all you.

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Alienange
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 5:03:57 AM

Everyone with 8TB of storage raise your hand... ... right ... that's what I thought.

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Tim Speed24
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 7:39:50 AM

I saw one hand.....@LimitedVertigo.

L7 383T

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The Stig
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 9:03:11 AM

Im guessing your 8TB hard drive is an external one. But am I right in saying that you cannot run games from it, only music, videos and pics.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:25:27 AM

Some of that is external storage, correct and I am able to run games from them, hell you can boot your computer up from one and run an operating system.

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The Stig
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:37:45 PM

Are you talkin about your PC?
Cos only the internal HDD can be used to install games and save game data on a PS3.

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Gabriel013
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:00:54 AM
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It would destroy the game trade market. If I was going to go down the dl route they would have to be sufficiently cheap for me to offset losing my £10-£15 clawback.

There would also be a lot of games we would miss out on as the prices would barely fall.
I picked up Lair for £15. I wouldn't be able to get it for that price on the PSN if it was available to dl.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:01:01 AM
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I love downloading games VS buying them at retail. Take Steam for example. I buy a majority of my pc games through that and it allows me to:

-Buy them cheaper
-I know I can never lose the CD/DVD/BluRay and have to buy another copy
-I can play the game on any computer anywhere without needing to drag around my software.
-Updates such as DLC are automatically done in the background allowing me to get the latest cool stuff without having to search for it

::sigh:: I love Valve...

I would totally be in favor of forgoing the whole retail store way of buying games and switch over to downloading games if it meant cheaper prices since it is VERY convenient.

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www
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 5:48:44 AM

'I know I can never lose the CD/DVD/BluRay and have to buy another copy'

Who is careless enough to lose their cd's/dvd's or blu-ray's??????

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Tim Speed24
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 7:51:50 AM

You can't sell your download to a friend or trade in a game you have played to death or just don't play anymore.

So digital downloads would cost me more money because I would get nothing for the old games.

I'll stick with the physical media as long as possible.

L7 383T

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:38:14 AM

www

I have friends that have lost things before, or misplaced something and found it damaged. Plus with age it is just fact that games deteriorate, some of my NES games don't work as well as they used to. Having everything on a digital backup would ensure that never happens.

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Ultimadream
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:39:10 AM
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i dont like the idea, what if you buy the download and your PS3 crashes and it gets wiped, i preffer to have a disc and case, its tangebal. its just like Itunes, i dont see the point in that, its a rubbish idea.

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BTNwarrior
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:52:46 AM

I despised itunes untill they released digital rights free music. and it is a hassle to exchange purchased games from one ps3 to another.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 3:32:56 AM

All your software is saved on their servers and the history of all your purchases are forever kept. This is how Steam works, I can reformat my computer a thousand times and still ALWAYS have my games a few clicks away from being played.

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www
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 5:57:58 AM

Vertigo.....i see you really trust these servers n all,they could also go terribly wrong.

Did you hear that recent story about people's xbox live accounts/gamertags getting deleted/lost due to it being deleted automatically by their subscribed email address....simply cause they weren't using there email regularly......how lame!

So what if something went wrong with ya account at steam n it got deleted along with all ya purchases....that would suck,wouldn't it?

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:29:23 AM

www

I'm simply talking about my experience with Steam. I know that there have been problems with the 360's market place. There have been a ton of problems with the 360 console, it doesn't mean that directly effects the hardware of the PS3, just like the 360's market place problems shouldn't have a direct effect on a different companies similar setup that has not had any problems to the effects you describe Microsoft having.

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Orvisman
Friday, March 13, 2009 @ 9:53:29 AM

@LimitedVertigo,

Yeah, but for how long? At some point -- five years? 10 years? -- Sony or Valve or M$ft will want to clear out space on their servers, and what do you think they are going to toss with the bath water?

Older games probably, especially the lower selling ones you might have enjoyed but weren't overly popular. Gone. Wiped. Deleted.

Now what do you do if your HD gets corrupted or breaks? Where do you repurchase those games?

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BTNwarrior
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:50:29 AM
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The idea of digital download is a good one, but there is still alot of people who live in areas that can only get dial-up or satellite. (I had that situation untill I moved to college) plus there are alot of people who do not have credit cards or prefer cash. And you can't rent a downloadable game or sell it back or buy it used. So while I support games that come out as both download and disk I can never see download taking dominance.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 3:36:17 AM

The whole "digital divide" is not nearly as huge as it was in the early 2000s. I would rather not do without new sources of getting things because others are too slow to adjust to the technology of the present.

I agree you can't sell the game back but you can give games away to friends and then have them give you money, I've done this on Steam when I beat a game and tire of it. I just give it to a friend as a gift and they pay me a fair price. Plus 99% of the games I buy I keep forever. I worry that my old NES games will not work anymore, if they were all on digital accounts I wouldn't have to worry.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 9:48:08 AM

Vertigo, did you ever think that SOME people don't have high-speed internet because its not available where they live? Ofcourse you didn't...self centered piece of....

But yeah, keep thinking about yourself.

Last edited by PS3_Wizard on 3/12/2009 9:48:45 AM

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:22:09 AM

PS3_Wizard did you ever think that MOST people do have a broadband connection available to them. Stop treating the situation as if you are in the majority, the FACT is digital divide is nothing like it used to be and you're simply wanting to hold back technology for your own self pity.

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BTNwarrior
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:46:33 AM

PS3_Wisard I feel your pain. I come from a place where the internet takes an hour to load a 5 minute video on youtube. And while I can see how someone who never experienced such slow speeds couldn't beleive it, but their is a large portion of America that can only get such service. And it is in every state that is not made of cities

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:51:35 AM

BTN I used to have 56k modem and I gamed on it, (original CounterStrike, Tribes, Unreal Tournament) with a 300 avg ping. That was back in 1998-2002 I no longer have that slow connection and while I understand you evidently still do the fact remains that a majority of the United States has broadband available to them. I'm sorry you don't but I don't understand why that would result in me not being able to take advantage of a new form of retail through technology.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:52:16 AM

Thats funny, seeing as mostly everyone in this article besides me and one other have broadband, but still don't want Digital Downloads. Its too much of a hassle right now. Yeah I might not have high-speed yet, but my opinion is in no way in the minority. Still looks like you are though, Einstein.

I'm not saying fully take away DD, but always keep discs around for people like me who depend on them to get our gaming fix.

@ BTN:
Exactly man. Vertigo is right in that alot more people in America have broadband than people who don't, but the fact still remains that millions still don't. Thats millions of people who wouldn't have a chance to buy a product. But hey, if Vertigo wants to act as if he's right, then so be it.

Last edited by PS3_Wizard on 3/12/2009 11:57:42 AM

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:19:52 PM

Ya it sure is a hassle to left click on an icon and instantly have in possesion a form of medium in contrast to driving who knows how many miles so I can buy the exact same thing for a higher price.

You agree with me and then a sentence later make a snide remark implying I'm wrong. Seriously what is with the attacks towards me?

Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 3/12/2009 12:21:04 PM

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:36:01 PM

You're being missleading...so ur saying I can just click buy and the game magically appears? GEE WILLIKERS! Thats AMAZING! But wait....don't you have to download it first? Thats right you do don't you...and how long would it take to download a 15+ gb game?

Oh and you're right about more people having access to high-speed than those who don't. But you insist on not seeing the whole picture, sure if a few thousand here and a few thousand there didn't have broadband, go ahead and leave us behind, but its still MILLIONS!

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SuMtOnE
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:58:28 AM
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im a collector, i want the physical copy. imagine losin all the data due to system corrupted. =(

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 3:37:43 AM

As I've mentioned before you have more to fear with only having the physical copy than having the digital copy. All your information is saved on the company servers and are tied to your account so you can never lose your software/media unlike if you had a hardcopy and lost it.

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www
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 6:03:34 AM

Vertigo, go on n trust these servers.Iv'e dealt with designing n website management,a least mistake could destroy a whole lot.

What's more some idiot would hack into ya account n downlaod all ya games for FREE,yea so much for digital download,yea we luv to sit our lazy-ass down n download,NOT ME!

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:24:26 AM

WWW

I will go on and trust them, since there is a digital receipt for every transaction I make emailed to me as well as credit card statements that detail any purchase I make. I know there are "hackers" and bugs that can create problems when dealing with storage on the internet. I'm willing to take the risks involved since I have had ZERO problems thus far and I trust the technology. The benefits are worth the risk since that risk you speak of is not only minimal but backed up with a paper trail.

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Qwarktast1c
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 9:58:20 PM

@ vertigo

you depend so much on the servers

1) what would you do if the servers had an error and your digital receipt was lost???

2) what if those servers were to crash in some apocalyptic server error????

or

3) if there was a major solar flare that fried anything computer related???

of course the most plausible of these scenarios is #1....

but you'd be so screwed then wouldn't you??

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ceedot
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 3:55:20 AM
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People rather get a physical game because it's something they can have in their library. They can resell it later if they like and so on. I don't think downloads will 'take over' disks. That would be stupid. And next gen consoles will have disks still because I don't see why we shouldn't.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 4:00:52 AM

Seeing that I don't "show off" my gaming library nor bask in its greatness I would gladly give up the idea of having a physical copy of a product if it meant having the same product cheaper, in a digital form so no matter where I am I can use it and never worry about losing it or having the hardcopy deteriorate with time.

Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 3/12/2009 4:01:22 AM

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 9:58:11 AM

Vertigo, no matter how you feel, you will always be in the minority when it comes to digital downloads. I've noticed that you replied to almost everyone's posts throwing around how how YOU THINK downloads are the way to go.

Not everyone is incompetent with a disc as you are. You act as if showing off a gaming library is dumb, but you constantly remind us as to how you have 8Tb of space and all your games on a server.

You can stay in your house and spend hours downloading a 30 gb game, while I go to the mall, meet some women, buy some new Jordans, and pick up a game. Ever heard of human interaction? Probably not seeing as how you love to just download stuff all day, and find the time to boast about how much memory you have. Its when you communticate with someone face to face about the joys or pitfalls of life. No, webcam doesn't count.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:11:11 AM

@ PS3_Wizard

WTF is your problem, I mentioned my storage space ONCE and it was only in reply to someone mentioning that this generation there isn't enough storage space to back up games, I simply disproved that claim.

YES you are right I am thinking of myself when I mention digital downloads of games, is that a horrible thing? Oh I see so when you throw your opinion around in here you only do it for the greater good? Don't bash me for giving my opinion on something that has worked for me.

Oh and you look quite foolish trying to attack me personally by trying to personally attack me based off of how much hard drive space I have. For your information I do advertising for several large corporations while going to school full time, harddrive space is a must for this line of profession.

If I wanted to act as ignorant as you I would assume you're some "wizard" that stays inside all the time playing your ps3 on hard difficulty, using the excuse of purchasing another game to frequent the mall and chase tail with your gamestop bag.

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crapreviews
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:29:22 AM

@LimitedVertigo

that last paragraph made me LOL

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:17:40 PM

Yes thats right, but as it stands who seems like the one who stays at home most of their time? Even though your comment about me staying at home is completely wrong, lets pretend for a second it could be true. Is that a bad thing? At least im leaving my house.

But when you told us all about your 8Tb memory mess, look at the responses you got from it. Its clear you just wanted to show off, and nobody really cared. I was just saying the comment really wasn't needed (heres when you will probably bring up the "free speech" issue).

I wasn't trying to attack you, but I see how you could take what I was saying as an "attack". But ever since that article with the keyboard and mouse discussion, YOU have seemed like an elitist. If you would have stated your opinion like everyone else, then I would have no qualms. But you proceeded to reply to a few people almost sounding like a downloading companies spokesperson. Its when you tried to hammer your opinion on anothers opinion that I think I got annoyed.

But based on MY take on You, you come off as a self idolizing bigot, with no sympathy or patience for those less fortunate than you. Oh, and a loser with no woman and spends a great deal of time with his computer. Hell, no matter why I go to the mall, atleast I get out and WANT to interact with friends or other people.

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Fenrir
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 4:11:10 AM
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I think this 'old fashioned' way, also.
I love to have a long, satisfying look on my 'Game storage' makes me kinda happy :-)

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Alienange
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 5:22:03 AM
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They can have all the digital downloads they want but it's certainly not going to replace disc-based media. I'm sorry but kids go to the mall. If they went into GameStop and there weren't any games on the shelf for the PS3 because everything went digital download then Sony would be dead.

Imagine? "Buy our system it's good. When you get home and hook it up to the net you'll see how many great games we have."

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 5:31:56 AM

I'd love that situation you describe. Instead of having to wait for my game to arrive in the mail (I quit the gamestop/eb thing a long time ago when I realized they were the equivalent to RadioShack in videogame disguise) I can shop from the comfort of my own home and know I'm getting a cheaper product and one that will last forever.

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Alienange
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 5:48:18 AM

I have yet to see cheaper retail games on PSN.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:19:52 AM

I am referring to a similar setup like Steam for PC where every game released is cheaper on it than if you were to purchase the game in the store, not to mention ZERO sales tax. I wish Sony would adapt a similar business strategy.

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Alienange
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:00:26 PM

I see. Agreed. Thing with the PC though is all the games are on dvd and there is an option to back them up. With PS3 that's pretty hard to do. I can get 100 dvds for $20, but I'd have to spend $100 on an external drive to back up blu-ray games. It's just too costly even IF the games were a bit cheaper.

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www
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 6:10:30 AM
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Digital download would be there,but just as an option,i don't see it taking over completely.
We'll still have physical copies.

They say the paperless office won't possibly happen,cause whether is the FBI,Sony,MS,Apple,Gamestop any other company,they sure have hard copies of certain important files.They don't fully trust thier data being secured on computers.

Am contemplating a future where we have half downloading n another half buying hard copies.
Disc format would not die!

Last edited by www on 3/12/2009 6:12:04 AM

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Sir Shak
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 6:32:52 AM
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I don't have the connection or HDD to download games upwards of 40 gigs .

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Victor321
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 6:45:06 AM
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I still prefer to buy a physical copy because it gives you that sense of triumph and acccomplishment, especially when you saved up for that game, or when u got it for a friend.

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Arvis
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:24:18 PM

Is that a laser rifle from Fallout 3?

-Arvis

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rell
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 6:56:48 AM
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In my opinion, sony shouldn't focus to much on digtal download its to soon for some gamers to make the transitions, I understand that some gamers want digtal download and other gamers prefer hard copy. I say sony should tally up the amount of sells on digtal download and hard copy sells and see what gamers prefer to use the most. Lastly sony need to promote the ps3 more and lower the price to get more gamers attention.

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gumbi
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 8:27:28 AM
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Sure, the small titles work great for digital download but man, who has the time/bandwidth to wait for a 50Gb download? I can drive to my local EB, buy the game, drive home, blissfully peel away that plastic wrapping and crack the seal, install the game and be playing in a fraction of the time it would take to DL. Not to mention the limited HDD space. 2.5" drives don't get much bigger than 500Gb... and then you're forking out a lot of extra dough for your already pricey console.

Nah, I'd say until we have the bandwidth and storage space available and, more importantly, affordable... lets just stick with disc media.

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Alienange
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 8:39:59 AM

Good point ... my 40gb PS3 would be filled with ONE game. lol Digital download blu-rays? That's just weird ... at the moment anyway. And don't forget, some ISPs charge for BW over a certain cap.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 10:04:24 AM

My point exactly, I mentioned the BW thing earlier. And I don't have any broadband ISPs where I live. I'm stuck with wack as hell hughes net satellite internet that is not for gaming AT ALL!

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:13:30 AM

Gumbi you do realize that most games are NOT 50gigs, right? By now most people that play videogames either have a broadband connection or have it available in their area. Those that don't are in the minority, such as PS3 Wizard. So are the majority supposed to continue the ways of the past and never atleast have the option of an easier solution to buying games?

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:25:46 PM

You stupid fool, when did I ever say that we should NEVER have DD? I am well aware that I'm in the minority, but do you realize just how many people don't have highspeed? Million!

Any on the PS3, fact remains games will continue to get larger and larger in size, so soon most games will be 20 gigs+ standard. which is still a long ass time for even broadband. So you keep trying to preach your sh** to us all you want. Not everybody has that patience for a title they've been waiting on for ages.

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chuygr35
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 9:23:19 AM
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I personally like Disk because it give me a sense of owership, and retail value. DLC feels pretty much like eternally renting the software. I can not sell it or trade it. I think sony should do the whole DLC with the PSP and optional on the PS3. I hate to choose which games and movies I should take when I travel. I can do PSP DLC because the game are not $65 a pop and it adds resale value to your PSP if you want to sell it someday. The only problem with that is if you lose or breaks the PSP, you lose everything. So you will have to redownload your game on a new PSP. I have no problems with the add-on download, I just don't like add-on that should already be on the launch game, like co-op and such. unless it is FREE, of course.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 11:53:34 AM
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I believe DLC is one of the worst things to happen to consoles, it makes developers lazy and greedy.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:08:10 PM
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I don't understand how anyone could be against this being an option. If it saves someone money, frees up clutter around the house, saves them time, and is a viable option for them then why not be in favor of it. It is one thing to say you wouldn't use it or don't have the option to, but to say you don't want it even coming into existence is just selfish. Oh and PS3Wizard, you're an asshole.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:30:57 PM

So if I'm an asshole, you're an ignorate dickhead. PLEASE....PLEASE.....PLEASE!!! quote when I ever said that we should never have digital downloads. Please do it...oh wait, you can't? Ok then shut the hell up.

Since I'm a man, I'll admit almost everything you said is true in that post, except the time saving crap. Lets say M.A.G or Killzone 3 came out on the PS store...you really think you can download it in as little time as it takes you to run to the store to pick it up and pop it in? Some games would work good with downloading, others wouldn't be smart, unless you don't mind spending hours to download it just because you dont want to leave your house.

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ImTheMan
Friday, March 13, 2009 @ 7:28:01 PM

HAHAHA LIMITED WITH THE KNOCKOUT BLOW!!! HAHAAHA

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bxshotboi
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:17:08 PM
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well besides all of those good points on both sides has any1 ever went through the issue that u had plenty of psn games but it is just a bit annoyin that you have to look through a ton of games that are out of the order that most collectors would put their games and get a bit annoyed i know i do i hate having to keep pressin down until i finally choose a game to play

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bxshotboi
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:19:56 PM
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plus if we keep our retail discs we can buy on ebay for way cheap and even get games before they come out if u go to places like fordham in the bronx and on top of that do people fail to realize that now instead of most games coming out the beginning of the week we would have to wait a few more days....i dont know about all of u but im a very impatient person wen it comes to a game i really want and would try to get it before the scheduled release

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:30:54 PM
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We've slipped over the edge into flaming. I see name-calling...so this stops, right?

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:32:12 PM

yeah it stops, but he just kept bringing me up.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:35:46 PM
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If Ben looks he will clearly see you started this tirade and are looking to continue it. Is there any way to ignore someone all together. PS3Wizard is nothing more than a jerk looking to start stuff on an online forum.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:42:38 PM

Let's just let it go. PS3 Wizard, NO more name-calling, please. Limited, just don't reply if he starts with you again. I'll see it.

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:45:46 PM

"Vertigo, did you ever think that SOME people don't have high-speed internet because its not available where they live? Ofcourse you didn't...self centered piece of....

But yeah, keep thinking about yourself."

Thats what I said. Maybe I could have done without saying the "self centered" stuff, for that I'm sorry. But if thats all it takes to set you off, then who's the real jerk? And you think I said that there should never be DD, and you are flatout wrong. I never once said that things should ONLY be on disc. You might need glasses, or maybe you dreamed it?

Oh and Ben, I admit I could have started the arguement, but you need to check everything out again.
He actually started the name calling thing with his "Wizard" comment, and then again by calling me an asshole first. But I don't like how you baby Vertigo as if he was the victim in all of this.

Last edited by PS3_Wizard on 3/12/2009 12:50:07 PM

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PANICinc
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:41:27 PM
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Going strictly to DLC for games is not a good idea! Not everybody has access to Broadband connections! Keep the discs, keep the continued console sales and games sales!

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:49:27 PM

A majority of people do, at least they can start offering DD as an alternative to purchasing games at a store physically.

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bxshotboi
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:42:32 PM
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lol u guys make me laugh no reason to be so harsh we just voice our opinions and of course we gonna disagree and besides does any1 sell games her and live in ny

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bxshotboi
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:45:02 PM
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welll back on the topic how would systems plan on sellin so many dlc based games if their advertisement isnt all that great at least sonys' isnt that means less consoles being soled cause the reason i even bought the first playstion was because i saw megaman legends on store shelves not because i saw an ad

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 12:48:08 PM

There will still be hard copies of games in retail stores but maybe next time you might see a game at Gamestop similar to your experience with Megaman Legends and decide to go home and download it for a cheaper price than buy it there.

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bxshotboi
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:11:37 PM
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u do prove a point young padawan lol but with online downloads u hardly see a price drop and they still go for the same price as the discs ( well so far and they probably would lower the prices since they dont have to deal with mass producing ) but the question is by how much would they reduce their prices lets not forget that this a company that these are companies tryint to make as much profit as they can

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:15:07 PM
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Well from what I've seen on the PC the reduced cost is normally 5-10 dollars for a new release. You can find older games (those older than 3 years for 10 dollars or less) and I would hope Sony would adopt this type of pricing since it has been VERY effective.

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chuygr35
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:28:01 PM

5 or 10 dollars is not enough! if i pay 59.99 for a disk game! 39.99 should be good for a DD! That is a saving that if hard to ignore. Buy 3 DD games, instead of two disk games. Have any of the original DD gone down in price permanently?

Last edited by chuygr35 on 3/12/2009 1:33:15 PM

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chuygr35
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:30:01 PM
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Does anyone have an idea Of how much Sony profits per disk sold?

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:37:45 PM
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Well if some argue that Box art, packaging, shipping and the discs cost extra, why is only a $5-$10 reduction happening? Why is it that downloading a game now cost just as much or very little less than the retail disc-based game? Something just isn't right about that. But as long as they continue to make game discs, ill be content. To each his own...

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bxshotboi
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:41:30 PM
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they might have to keep the prices the regular of 60 moneys cause if they only had download games they would have to use alot more moneys in order to adverise each and every game well if they expect to sell

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PS3_Wizard
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 1:56:15 PM

Yeah that is true man...to ellaborate:

Basically what Bx was saying is that the prices would need to stay around the $60 price range. Thats due to the excessive amounts of advertising that would need to be done. If you look at it, a benefit of going to a retail location is to quickly browse all of the upcoming titles, and titles you might not have heard of without all the clicking that would be needed with a computer.

When you enter the store, all of the pretty posters and pop-art bombard you with messages and "BUY ME" appeal.

I know computers have advertisements and pictures, but non techy comsumers would rather go in and browse what looks good to them. Ofcourse alot of hardcore gamers would appreciate digital downloads. Parents, jobless kids, elders and others would struggle to find what they need.

So I think alot more advertisment would be needed to keep digital downloads up, throwing out the possibility that games would be significantly cheaper.Maybe they will, but not by much...which is why there will always need to be physical software.

Thumbs up bxshotboi!

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NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:28:47 PM
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Digital downloads will suck for a few simple reasons:

--i cannot buy a game and take it to a pal's place and play it. I have to take my ps3 with me.

--I cant let my friend borrow my game if i am not using it.

--I cant sell it when i am done with it.

The day games stop being pressed on discs is the day i stop gaming.

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LimitedVertigo
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 3:42:08 PM

- You can sign into your account on your friends console and retrieve any of your games for playing

- Screw your friend, he never lets you borrow anything

- You can sell it to someone you know if you feel you are done with the game, just give it to them as a gift and ask them nicely for some cash

I understand there are negatives but I think if DD is offered there are some games that those negatives you list wont become a problem (all your favorite game series you refuse to ever sell).

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NoSmokingBandit
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 4:19:34 PM

--Yes, but then i have to go through and create an account on my buddies ps3, then sit and wait for it to download. At 1MB/s it would take 4 hours to download a 15 gb game. Even if we can download at 5mb/s it will take about 45 minutes, and nobody wants to sit and wait around while a game downloads.

--Me and my friends (a select few of them) are always swapping games. In fact, right now i have Mario Kart and Metroid Prime 3, both of which arent mine.

--I think you missed my point here. If i download a game to my hdd, i cant sell that game when i no longer want it. I cant put the disc in the case and drop it off at gamestop. I cant send it home with my friend. Sony wont let me transfer the ownership either because they can squeeze a few more dollars out of the customer.

I also wont be able to buy a used game, because they wont exist any more, there will be no more racks at Gamestop, no more great deals on ebay, no more game listings on Craigslist. The customer loses, sony gains, and i get pissed off.

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bxshotboi
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:41:52 PM
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i wouldnt stop gaming but i sure would take it alot easier

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Deadman
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 2:45:54 PM
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Keep my S#!T on disk if I get a game and it's flat out awful at least I can trade in a disk and recoup some of my losses cant do that with a download. Second the majority of the games I play are rented from the video store. Will Sony have the foresight to offer a reduced $5 for 3 days rental period on games? Doubt it keep em on disk.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 5:36:38 PM
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That was a lot of hostility. Anyone ever consider that as the games get better they will get bigger? This would offset any major ideas about disk space. Multiple-layer Blu rays are going to be huge, and the PS4 WILL have a drive. It's just inconcievable that it wouldn't. MS might make the 720 driveless just so they can charge a million dollars for storage but thats about it. We're gonna be stuck with them both and you can just pick which one you have more faith in.

So what if I'm proud of my gamebox collection and a colony of gnomes have built a city and a replica of stonehenge with all my boxes?

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smileys_007
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 5:38:36 PM
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For me, I personally prefer the disc format over DD.. but if you can have both, that will be better..

@limited
i have to say that i agree with mr. wizard. I lived in the Philippines and some people here, (including myself), have high speed internet BUT most people don't have. It will be very stupid if the disc format will be removed in the near future and i'm sure that it will never happen. DD is good but disc formats should always remain for future consoles..

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RadioHeader
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 5:42:33 PM
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Pleased to see most people disagreeing with the idea.
I thought it was mostly M$ who want to push digital distribution in an attempt to belittle blu-ray's success, and negate the problem they have with the old record player in the 360.

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Shatterday
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 7:01:41 PM
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I hate to call you all closed minded, thats what the majority of you are demonstrating. I'm aware that everyone has their own preference, but you need to think about the future.

10 years ago do you think that anyone would ever need 1TB of harddrive space? No. Not only that, but no one could even imagine how much it would cost.

I could go on forever with that little idea but I'll make a long story short. My point is that technology develops at a ridiculous rate. In 10 years 1TB is going to be nothing.

Entire cities have thought about providing city wide wireless internet, so in the future everyone who used the "Not all of us have Cable/DSL" reason, won't have that little excuse anymore.

It's not like publishers even have the ability to take everything over to digital copies at the moment, you need to think ahead.

Economies, like everything else, evolve.

* It isn't going to work NOW, is what I'm saying.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 8:11:45 PM

I don't think anyone disputes that at some stage everything will be DD, but like you said it isn't going to work at the moment and I think that's what everyone is focusing on right now.

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PS3_Wizard
Sunday, March 15, 2009 @ 7:36:07 PM

Did you forget that not everyone lives in the city?

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bxshotboi
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 7:14:36 PM
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@ shatterday....i understand wat u are sayin and u do make a point BUT in the end it will all depend on the preference of the buyers and i believe that it will remain on disks for as long as i live and i sure do hope so

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BikerSaint
Thursday, March 12, 2009 @ 8:43:56 PM
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@LV,
Not bashing ya but when I read you first posts, it just seemed a bit rash(I took it as a little like "Well, I've got mine, so tough on those who don't".
Maybe you didn't mean it that way, but that's how it seemed to came out in print.
Just saying.

Anyways, if all the developer's give everyone the option for both ways to buy, then I'd be OK with it.
But for myself, I want the the actual game "in my hand".

And here's just a few reasons why....

1. I'm a collector with over a 1000 used games so far & I'd much rather enjoy seeing my collection taking up their space on my shelves, than a bunch of crappy loose-leaf list-filled binders(or swhatever else).

2. I have medium-speed DSL and since I don't do on-line gaming, other than that & DL's, there is no need for me to waste any extra cash on a high-speed internet that right now, is still "twice the price" here, just for DL's.
Besides, the extra money I save, buys me that many more used games.

5. And since I DO have DSL, DL would still take up way too much valuable time for me(and I'd never leave home, or go to sleep with my computer/gaming systems still on).

(I saved my best for last)....
4. I'm not tech savy so I usually screw up any electronic fixes(& right now, even my computer's f*cking up on me & is probably going to kick the bucket at any minute).

So if something went wrong concerning DL's(Download corrruption/storage/power surges/equipment failure/whatever else), then I think I would surely be....
"UP THE CRAPPER WITHOUT A SHUTTLE ROCKET"!!!

Last edited by BikerSaint on 3/12/2009 9:08:34 PM

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Xplicit
Friday, March 13, 2009 @ 11:43:33 AM
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i don't know about you guys but i don't fancy sitting around waiting for a 15GB game to download even if i do have a 50mb connection i still wouldn't waste the time and electricity.

Also, any company would have to charge for downloading all that stuff but overall it would be cheaper then having a game on disk and packaged.

But like someone already said, ill miss that new game smell, that 3 seconds of ripping off the packaging, cracking open the case and then pushing down to receive the disk. Ahhhhhh, Downloadable games? NO THANK YOU!!!!!

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crapreviews
Friday, March 13, 2009 @ 2:48:51 PM
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wow.... i see some people made it their point to "thumb down" almost every post i made.

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Dingodial
Saturday, March 14, 2009 @ 5:59:03 PM
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I agree with Sony. Some of you flamers act like digital download is the only way to go but for me, it is only useful for demos. I don't have broadband in my area but when I go on a vacation I always go somewhere that has it. I don't care how fast your broadband is - even with the fastest connection it still takes forever to download demos! Imagine how long it would take to download enormous games like MGS4 or LBP! DO THE MATH. It cost normally $60 to buy a new PS3 game on blu-ray but it would cost a lot more if we bought a digital-download because we would need a hard drive to store it on. IF EVERY GAME WAS A DIGITAL-DOWNLOAD THEN WE WOULD HAVE MORE PEOPLE OUT OF JOBS. SEVERAL BUSINESSES DEPEND ON PHYSICAL GAMES & WITHOUT THEM, THESE BUSINESSES WOULD GO OUT OF BUSINESS.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, March 15, 2009 @ 10:38:16 PM
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It would be fine if downloadable versions of every game became an option, but it would be foolhardy to make it the ONLY option. And not everybody has modded their ps3 to make it a 200 GB hard drive.

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PaiNT_kinG
Monday, March 16, 2009 @ 3:36:28 AM
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i prefer physical contact with a game disk,it gives me great pleasures,the new game plasticky smell isn't bad either,THE END!

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