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Netflix Service Going To A "Variety Of Platforms," PS3 Included?

The console war is all about position and timing, but eventually, it seems as if every game - and feature - goes multiplatform at some point.

When the New Xbox Experience launched last November, Netflix came with the overhaul and since that time, over 1 million people have signed up for the video-streaming service. Now, as GameSpot points out, it seems that Netlfix is looking to expand within the video game world. GameSpot cites a job listing on the Netflix site and the position is for an "Engineering Leader -- Gaming Platforms," with a description that includes: "a small technology team to rapidly prototype and iterate on a variety of platforms." It doesn't specify any platforms but one has to assume they're talking about the PlayStation 3, even though Sony already digitally distributes movies and TV shows on the PlayStation Store. We suppose the Wii is a possibility, too, but it's not exactly known as a multimedia device and Nintendo hasn't shown much interest in adding such features in the past. We're just not sure how Netflix would gel with what's already offered on the PSN, so we do have some questions... But either way, one can't say that Netflix on the PS3 would be a bad thing.

With this job listing sitting there, we figure we might see an announcement soon, although we may have to wait until E3. Do you like the idea of Netflix coming to the PS3? Or are you happy with the PSN?

4/13/2009 Ben Dutka

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fatelementality
Monday, April 13, 2009 @ 10:36:26 PM
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I think it would be a phenomenal idea. Now if they could work towards getting my internet connection to speed up so I could stream anything. %$*&(%^ hulu. Hate you. Good day.

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infekt
Monday, April 13, 2009 @ 10:40:00 PM
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Netflix would be wise to include the PS3 this time if revenue is what they are after. But I think I would be happy with the PSN Video store.. if it ever comes out in Canada!

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Gregory Freeman
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 8:51:36 PM

[sarcasm]well, this would be the option 4 everyone who isn't "Lucky" enough to be born an American... the rest of the world (Mostly Canada And The UK) is inferior to the states and never gets anything that Sony offers to the most powerful superpower, only ever rivaled by the USSR...[/sarcasm]

i hate it... im 2 minutes from the New York Border... but because of that 1km, i cant get psn cards and movies... netflix will be a start, but i want a Sony service on my ps3, not a recycled m$ idea...

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godsman
Monday, April 13, 2009 @ 10:41:28 PM
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It only makes sense to make Netflix on PS3. Its agreed upon that it is more like a media device than gaming center by xbox fanboys. With over 22 milions hard drives out there potentially for downloading the movies, its only common sense to do so. There's probably only half of "working" xboxs that has a hard drive probably 14 million. It's just a matter of time before the Netflix come to PS3.

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fatelementality
Monday, April 13, 2009 @ 10:44:32 PM
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PSN could price media a bit better. I've wanted to check out X'amd for a while now, but I'm not paying 5 bucks to RENT one freakin episode. I feel like I would need a new hard drive if I were to start purchasing shows or movies though. They just eat up space. Three episodes of anything in HD is damn near a gig. One series and you're screwed.

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PANICinc
Monday, April 13, 2009 @ 10:52:43 PM
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Eh....
It would work I guess.

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karneli lll
Monday, April 13, 2009 @ 11:06:30 PM
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the psn movie store is somewhat useless. If you want to watch a movie you have to wait for the lengthy download time, saddest part is that downloading also aplies to rented titles.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:19:35 AM

Lengthy? My dl's never take more than about 10 minutes for HD videos, though I am downloading the South Park HD eps, 2.99$ each =D

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karneli lll
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 9:17:41 AM

Try downloading movies

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 10:35:18 AM

Indeed. even SD movies take forever.

Something like South Park (even in HD) is HIGHLY compressible because it's animation with large blocks of the same or similar color and relatively little fram to fram changes in background.

There are fundamental mathematical rules that apply to downloading HD video, the first of which is that you cannot apply a more aggressive compression algorithm without lsing data. A BluRay movie might typically be 20+ GB in size. But before any of the faux geeks out there say the word compression, you have to remember that the BluRay data is already compressed using a very efficient video compression algorithm, so there is little if any additional compression to be had without losing some data. All compression past a certain point is lossy, but the further you drive the compression to worse it gets. So if you take that HD data stream from a BD and compress it further to perhaps a quarter of the BD size, you are sacrificing any pretense of HD quality, the resulting compressed data stream will be more akin to a DVD. The difference is that it will have been compressed at 720 or 1080, and so will not require to be scaled by the display device. This will yeild an apparent increase in quality over DVD, but in fact the color depth is lower than DVD and there will be motion artifacts (pixelation and blurred colors) on every frame.

Saying that South Park in HD doesn't take long is all fine and well, but South park is by it's nature very friendly to compression because it uses large areas of uniform color and has relatively small differences in the backgrounds from frame to frame. Anime is similarly friendly to compression as the backgrounds are often static for several frames, as are the characters without only their mouth moving. But real movies with humans and moving backgrounds with huge ranges of color are an entirely different issue.

You can't put a gallon of milk into a pint pot without spilling some milk. With HD video it's exactly the same you can't but 1080p video into a dvd sized download without losing quality, it's mathematically impossible.

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Deleted User
Monday, April 13, 2009 @ 11:06:50 PM
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It doesn't matter to me. Canadians are still not allowed to buy movies from a video game console. Canadian content BS or something keeps us Canucks from doing so.

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CH1N00K
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 10:26:20 AM

In the same boat..No love for Canucks..stupid outdated copyright laws..

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Odd Child
Monday, April 13, 2009 @ 11:38:06 PM
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Would have been nice if I still had my netflix account. I find it easier streaming from my hard drive to my PS3. But adding netflix wouldn't be a bad idea for the non-techies.

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Highlander
Monday, April 13, 2009 @ 11:47:51 PM
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Really there is no reason why Netflix should be platform specific.

It's a load of crap for a movie service to be platform specific when it's provided by a third party. It would be like Blockbuster signing a deal with Panasonic so that all DVD/BluRay movies distributed through Blockbuster outlets only worked on Panasonic branded players. It would be like Netflix setting up an exclusive service with a specific console maker and only allowing their conso....ah wait... ;-)

See it's just a bunch of crap.

Just as Sony has done itself, if MS want to do an exclusive movie service, let them, but let's not get into this bull shtuff of signing specific studios to an exclusive service deal.

Netflix is a third party service that provides DVD and BluRay via mail regardless of player, why should electronic delivery of their product be limited to one player? The Internet is a common carrier, and all the media streaming methods are well known standards.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:40:25 AM

You're very much against 3rd party exclusive-ness. Haha.

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Qwarktast1c
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 10:19:49 PM

i'm only agaisnt third party exclusiveness for this


i do however want FF 13 to return to being a PS3 exclusive
so all the xbots would shut up, lol

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WNDRTWN1
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:01:59 AM
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Yes I love the ideal of netflix coming to the PS3 especially now that I have netflix. This should have been done at the same time it was on the 360. I agree with TheHighlander when it comes to that aspect.

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Banky A
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:35:34 AM

Bardock you're alive?

=D

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:19:41 AM
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I think they should do it to allow competition in pricing vs the PSN store.

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RoyBrown
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:25:39 AM
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Wow.

I can see this driving sales around the world.




Not.

Being Australian, I wouldn't even bat an eyelid at this sort of garbage.

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Jian2069
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:31:08 AM
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when it says "platforms" it might not mean "consoles"
i mean netflix is already on a variety of platforms (xbox, computer)

so maybe we'll be seeing some sort of DVR style box that hooks up to internet or something of the likes?
maybe they just said it to make microsoft pay them more money for exclusivity.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 9:22:49 AM

They already have that,even a blu ray player that streams netflix as well

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Qubex
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:49:26 AM
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I think this is another example where Sony got it wrong to some degree... wanting to be master of everything.

The XMB, at this stage should have included many more "third party" widgets; such as a Skype Icon, Social Networking Icons, Netflix Icon, YouTube icon etc etc... similar in style to iPhone... downloading these widgets/shortcuts (neatly categorised) would have been a great idea for quick access to various media outlets digitally...

You can select a browser-based widget and it would open up the browser with all the necessary compatibilities (codecs/java/flash etc) loaded up so you can stream videos, movies, music, what have you.

If Sony really wants your console to be on all the time; and really be at the heart of everything, they have to make it convenient for your to launch into media sites or use widgets designed especially for PS3 in order to get to services almost instantly... that is how I envisaged "services" to be delivered ultimately... but it hasn't happened... Sony choses to stay "closed" - and that is why things do take a long time to come to fruition...

Anyway, certain "additional" media type functionality, I usually fire up YellowDog Linux now which permits me to browse the web and stream music; and also chat with my Skype contacts using an HTTP browser-based Skype application. Unfortunately there is no open-source powerpc version of the Skype application.

Anyway, I continue to live in hope... and still, out of everything i c in front of me... without having to have a PC, the PS3 would still be my choice... even though there are a few things that really do irritate me intensly LOL :)

Q!

"i am home"



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Dooby_Scooby
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 1:45:50 AM

Hey Qubex.
You know what irritates me the most about the whole "can run Linux" thing ?

They dont give access to the graphics subsystem. Again a sign of how closed a system they want. They are so worried about it being hacked that they have locked it down too much. I bought it on launch and on the first day installed Linux only to realise its pretty much useless because of the lock down .

I have been waiting for them to unlock the gpu to allow Linux access to the hardware. From what I gather the Sony OS acts as a hypervisor - aka xen dom0 with physical access to the cpu provided not gpu. Thats what really pisses me off.

They should not have locked this off or at the very least provided us access to it by now..

Im still waiting not holding my breath though

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Qubex
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 6:28:15 AM

Dooby_Scooby the GPU hypervisor restrictions are a tragedy in many respects, but you know what, running Yellow Dog is not too bad. The latest variant, v6.1 uses the GPU ram now as swap. So the PS3 has access to all its poultry 512mb of ram, which does help.

Just one thing to note. If Yellow Dog did have access to the GPU it would be very fast. The problem is you have a purposed built bottleneck that is slowing everything down, including DMA access to the hardware. In other words it struggles to do basic multi-tasking due to the DMA/framebuffer restrictions imposed. It shouldn't be slow... just look at what it does for Killzone 2.

There is also a site you can go to "ps3bodega" - do a search for it. Read the blog, explains how to setup everything from Java, Flash - also how to run software rendered games such as Quake2, Decent 1 and 2, Heretic, a few isometric RPGS, Robin Hood... you can also run most old arcade emulators from Mame, to UAE (amiga emulator) to Nintendo GameBoy/Gear etc; also SCUMM system. It is all there...

Its a dog on the PS3 but there are ways of getting it to do things with some tinkering :(

Q!

"i am home"

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:06:55 AM
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@Dooby_scooby

Don't bother waiting, they'll never open up the system like that. The hypervisor allows them to lock the system down - as you say - to prevent hacking. If there is one thing that would absolutely kill PS3 it's having it successfully hacked to run copies of games.

You don't need access to the GPU for basic Linux to work, and there really isn't enough RAM to make anything intensive possible anyway, so access to the GPU is kind of pointless unless you're writing a game, in which case spring for the newly discounted development kit.

Clearly it's your opinion that they lock the system down too much, personally I find there is no problem at all. But then again I am content to run purchased games and PSN downloads, play DVD/BD, and streamed music/video from my PC. Really I can't think of many things I would want to do with my PS3 that would have be interacting with the security lockdown in a negative manner. Of the things I can think of, none of them are things Sony would be happy about.

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Qubex
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 6:19:54 AM

TheHighlander, that is the tragedy of the whole story. Whilst I agree that opening up the Sony box would potential crack it wide open... the sad reality is we have sitting in front of us... a very very powerful 64bit computer. Sony has hobbled it on purpose... what a damn shame.

Now look at Apple; they create very nice hardware right. People love the design and its functionality. Now why could Sony not have launched the PS3 as a console, or entry level computer. If you bought the computer package you would get a PS3 with 2 gigs of ram on the motherboard, Linux pe-installed and a black keyboard and mouse ...and yes you would pay more for it; BUT, booting it up in GameOS would put it back into "normal" mode...

I think alot of people, universities, schools etc would have bought it as a computer console; and many people would buy it (as they have done) as a games console... there are endless possibilities...

Why don't we have more widgets and functions off the XMB... Why don't Sony have an app store like Apple, where 3rd parties can write free applications for it to perform a number of different tasks... anyway, I feel if the system were more open, Sony would have sold more...

Q!

"i am home"

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 10:40:29 AM

@Qubex

Oh, I agree. There should be a non-entertainment PS3 SKU, or a desktop based on the PS3. Basically a PS3 with 1GB (or more) of XDR. 256MB is simply not enough to really get benefit from running LINUX on the beast.

I've felt this way ever since they said it would run LINUX, I entertained that possibility for a while, but the memory cap is too tight for running a desktop LINUX, Firefox and Open Office. Between them those apps chew through 256MB pretty handily.

But it is what it is. I don't blame Sony for wanting to protect the PS3. That said, if they ever want someone to test a new Cell based desktop that can also double up as a PS3, I'm available....

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Andysw
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 5:37:34 AM
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The video store isn't avialble in europe, but I guess this would be a nice addition to the playstation network.

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robinhood2010
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 7:36:08 AM

Why can't we have it here as well?

I wish all PS Stores were equal. Movies form US and FF7 from JP! Please!

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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 7:31:10 AM
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I don't need NetFlix. We have Redbox in our area and DVD rentals are only $1 a night.

Why can't the Playstation store have $1 a night rentals for a download or a streaming view to compete with Blockbuster and Redbox?

For those that don't know Redbox is a DVD vending machine.

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Robochic
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 8:03:17 AM
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Doesn't matter to me, I live in Canada I know we'll never see it this year or next we may see something like this in the future just not now. So i'll keep supporting my local blockbuster video.

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telly
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 9:33:20 AM
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The picture quality ain't great, but streaming through Xbox Live is freaking awesome. Nothing on TV? Stream a movie. Waiting for the next flick in your queue to arrive? Stream a movie.

Blu ray is, of course, the best way to watch movies and that will remain the case for quite awhile. But I love having the option of streaming a movie in a pinch and hope all PS3 owners get the option soon.

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Orvisman
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 9:51:14 AM
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I have a question.

Why can't you stream Netflix through the PS3 browser?

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shadowpal2
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 10:32:34 AM
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Hmm....Netflix.........ummm........sure why not. I mean why would Netflix stay exclusive to Xbox 360 - sounds really silly to me. Oh and we've seen this whole kind of thing before. The job listing thing with 2k and Bioshock. We asked them "So are you make a game for PS3." "Oh of course not, we don't comment on rumors hmhm yessss...." And then on October "SURPRISE BIOSHOCK IS COMING TO PS3!" Like we didn't know. It's coming to PS3 no doubt.

But I just wonder what Sony thought about when making the decision. What's going to happen to their video store?

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 10:41:28 AM
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I heard awhile back that netflix may be coming to the PS3. The service would include a one time fee of $9.99 which would be for the purchase of a "Netflix instant streaming disc." Obviously every time time you wanted to stream Netflix movies you would have to put the disc in.

On top of the $9.99 purchase of the disc you would also have your monthly subscription.

This may have been in the works for wii as well... whether or not this is the same subject well I dont know, As this took place a while back. If this will even happen is to be for-seen. I guess Netflix was conducting a survey though to see if this would be beneficial to console owners outside the 360.

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 10:42:28 AM
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@ShadowPal2

Sony probably doesn't care, the Deal with Neflix for PS3 may exclude Sony properties to give Sony a clear run itself, or it may be rental only leaving the PSN to handle actual purchases of content.

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NonProphet
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:54:12 AM
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I would be thrilled if Netflix came to PS3. Its actually one of the main reasons I bought a 360. Access to 12,000 movies in their archive is great, even if some of those movies suck. Especially if you consider the exorbitant price of purchasing/ renting movies on the PSN. I will never spend $6 for an HD rental.

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Skatejimmy5
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:38:29 PM
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I don't care which of the two is the best, I just want one of them to arrive in Europe.

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bearbobby
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:46:08 PM
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Yep, I'll throw my 2 cents in here. The video prices off of the PSN for renting are stupid. To watch an entire season of a half hour show will run you about $50 it seems! The very reason I have not rented a single thing from them.

What Sony needs to do is have monthly unlimited usage fee, reasonable of course, not sure what I'd be willing to pay, but it would have to compete with Netflix's prices. This piece-meal stuff is off-putting.

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BIG_E
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 10:42:33 PM
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We all have gotten use to the word free on the psn.Paying for netflix membership is going to
be a problem.
@ bearbobby you and I feel the same way.

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SirLoin of Beef
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 11:34:37 AM
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I wouldn't use it if it came to the PS3 (I don't use in my 360) but I do think it would be worthwhile thing to have for other PS3 owners. The theory to the service is pretty nice and, from what I hear from the few people I know who've used it, it works pretty good.

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CptGreedle
Friday, April 17, 2009 @ 9:42:08 AM
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Is it just me, or maybe making a big news story based on a job position isn't such a good idea. Perhaps the XBOX 360 staff is lacking, or one of the team left?
All I'm saying is it seems odd that you would make a news article based solely on a job posting with nothing else to back it up. And the GameSpot article is not evidence, it is just assuming the same thing based on the same job posting.

I hope it does come out to the PS3, but there is already a video service on the PS3 and it just seems odd that they would build in their own competition.

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Gallegra
Friday, April 17, 2009 @ 2:31:25 PM
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I hate the idea regardless. If they'd have to go with a media/video service I'd much rather they add Blockbuster. Plus then it might help to add more members, and keep Blockbuster's (easily better) rental by mail service going.

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