Sony: Unlike MS, We Have Confidence In Our First-Party Lineup

By now, we're all familiar with the contrasting business practices between Sony and Microsoft, especially when it comes to "writing checks" to publishers. But SCEA's hardware marketing boss John Koller clarified that stance still further.

According to VG247, Koller said Microsoft pays for more exclusive and timed exclusive content because of a lack of security where there first-party lineup is concerned. Sony, on the other hand, has plenty of faith in their first-party titles, which is why they're stricter when it comes to handing out money to third-party publishers. Said Koller:

"Microsoft has had a much more lenient policy to writing cheques than we do. We don't feel the need to write cheques necessarily with every publisher, like they did with the Lost and Damned and some other titles, because we feel very strongly in our first-party line-up. I think it's safe to say that we'd put our first-party line-up against anyone's..."

The question is, do the fans agree with Sony's firm position on the matter? There's little doubt that what Koller says is true; that Sony's first-party lineup is impressive and - at this time - appears to easily outstrip the competition. Therefore, in order to remain competitive in the realm of the exclusive, it would make sense for Microsoft to open up its deep pockets and find ways to make third-party publishers stick with the Xbox 360 for certain things. But many believe Sony could put a huge crimp in Microsoft's plans if they simply opted to do the same; it would neutralize MS's advantage. Others, however, say this is "dirty playing" and Sony should just stick to what they do best.

So where do you come out on the issue?

4/14/2009 Ben Dutka

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:10:51 AM
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I think Sony should stick to their guns on this one. The only thing I would like top see them do is bring the RPG genre into the 'first party' arena. That said, I believe that there are many first party games in Japan that we never see here, perhaps Sony could spend a bit more on localizing some of those games and bringing them to the US and Europe?

Either way, yes, I do think that the first party games from Sony lead the way. It does force Microsoft to purchase third party games - because Microsoft is unwilling to invest directly in development.

If Sony does not go down the same route of purchasing exclusives from publishers, then I do think they need to pay closer attention to their customers and fan base in general when picking the game genre for future games. For example, gamers on PS3 have been clamoring for JRPG games and as yet there has been little reward.

Sony could also ensure that some of their first party titles are actually completed - yes Gran Turismo 5, I am looking at you.

Everything above applies equally well to the PSP.

Last edited by Highlander on 4/14/2009 11:11:31 AM

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coverton341
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:57:10 PM

Very well put Highlander.

I too feel that Sony should take the higher road on this topic and put more money behind first-party developing rather than third for the simple reason that we have seen time and again that if a game is wholly developed with the PS3 then it is leaps and bounds ahead of anything out there while if a developer is multiplating the game and ports it over from developing it on a PC or an Xbox then it usually falls short of what we all know it could have been.

Oh and very much agreed that they should localize and bring games to NA and EU from Japan. I'm looking at Yakuza 3 on this one.

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:07:13 PM

There are numerous games I would love to have, yet they are only available in Japan. My wife is desperate for the Idol Master games on PSP, but the sun is more likely to go Nova than these games get an NA release.

It's not always necessary to revoice the entire game. Sticking to the the example of Idol Master on PSP, I suspect that 95% of the prospective audience in the west would be more than happy with the original J-Pop tracks so long as the actual dialog was re-voiced. I think this is true of very many games, it's not necessary to fully localize a game so long as the dialog can be understood. Good grief, a lot of keen gamers would be happy with subtitles over the top of the original Japanese dialog. I could cope very nicely with subtitles...

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gdude
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:15:16 AM
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aaronisbla
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 7:16:55 PM

yes

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elass0wyp0
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:16:44 AM
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There are no remaining arguments for the fanboys aside from exclusive titles and PDLC that M$ has to buy.

Last edited by elass0wyp0 on 4/14/2009 11:17:46 AM

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Naga
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:19:57 AM
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I think Sony should shut up and widen the browser in the next update

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:06:46 PM

Uh what? Nothing to do with what we're talking about, but yes on an off-topic note, I don't have any problems with the browser, just needs to be more reliable since it crashes frequently.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:26:13 AM
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Sony's 2009 first party lineup is formidable. There's no need for them to spend unnecessary money on bringing in a bunch of games that nobody wants just to cover up a lack of first party games. I don't think anything MS has paid for has been anything to write home about. Maybe a few more JRPG titles would be nice but the Square-Enix we are seeing isn't the one of old. If Sony is going to pay for 3rd party exclusives, they need to go to the people who are making great games, like Sega WOW of Valkyria Chronicles fame.

Last edited by n/a on 4/14/2009 11:27:21 AM

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Jordahn
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:32:28 AM
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Even though I think SONY's 1st/2nd party lineup has been doing a good job, just is just more PR spin.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 7:21:41 PM

yeah, it is PR spin, but its not total hogwash, like the crap Aaron Greenberg spat out the other week. And i really don't think its much of an insult to MS either, more of an observation.

He didn't say "MS first party and exclusive games sucks balls" he just said they don't have any confidence in their first party games enough to the point where they don't have to sweeten the deal and get timed exclusives exclusive dlc ( both very, overused phrases this gen )

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Troy Powers
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:34:46 AM
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What Sony is doing is respectable, but I would question whether or not it's good business sense as far as not buying exclusives. Personally, I like what they're doing. I love that they say, "We don't have to BUY good games. We make our own." That's pimpin'. Buying exclusives is trickin'. But, from a business perspective...I dunno.

If there's one thing this generation has taught us, is that honor gets you third place. Cheating, rushing, putting out a crappy product...that turns a bigger profit. Sure, you'll spend more money in the long run repairing and replacing systems, extending warranties, and buying your exclusive content, but it still leaves you with the larger install base.

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raztad
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:11:23 PM

It's not about "honor", it's about profitability. To purchase an exclusive, specially the BIG ones cost a LOT of money, and it gets worse as each console userbase widens. That is why, the "lets pay third parties to make exclusive games for me" practice is getting too cumbersome even for the deep pockets of MS. If you look carefully MS exclusive lineup for this year is pretty weak.

Sony strategy is smarter and long sighted. They are building a lot of awesome games that push PS3s out the door, even with the higher price, while MS is stuck with multiplats.

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Deadman
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:35:13 AM
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I dont think that its because MS doesnt have faith in their first party games as much as it is that they dont have any, or at least any that can truly compete with what Sony and the PS3 have on the horizon.

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Fabi
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:37:32 AM
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Sony's first party games are top-notch, BUT they would really hurt MS if they paid for some exclusives, the really good ones.

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Tim Speed24
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:50:28 AM
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This article has that "Well Duh" vibe about it.

Sony has shown time and again it values it's customers. Are there things they can do better? Yes. But that can be said about any company.

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Andysw
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 11:55:34 AM
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Some of the third party games are more likely to bring more success than first party games do. Final fantasy XIII is probably the most anticipated game of all time and it could've cause a spike in playstation 3 sales if it wasn't going multiplatform.

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raztad
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 6:52:59 PM

You are right, FFXIII could be a HUGE spike on sales worldwide (though it will be in japan where that franchise is still exclusive), but lets be real on this one.

Suppose 5 million of copies are sold on the xbox360. That means,
60$ x 5million = 300million$.

So SE probably will require something in-between 300-500mill$ to make FFXIII exclusive on the PS3. I rather prefer all that huge money on some news IPs, that wasted on a game that we are getting anyway.

Last edited by raztad on 4/14/2009 6:53:44 PM

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JofaMang
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 7:44:49 PM

Game developers do not see the entire retail price of a game. I remember reading years ago (could be outdated, but a decent reference point none-the-less) that the retailer sees about 20%, the publisher about 60, and the developer ends up with about 20% of the retail purchase price going into their pockets. Royalties are paid to the licensee from developer and the publisher, but not the retailer. This is another point that makes digital distribution more attractive to the developers, and 1st party devs more profitable for sony (as their own publisher) and less so with MS.

20% of 60.00 is $12 a game. If a game like TLR was expected to sell 2 million copies on the ps3, 25 million dollars would be a fair price to pay for 360 exclusivity. Considering how crappy TLR performed (barely broke 30fps on my computer, which is a very decent gaming rig), I would have been surprised to see it move more than a million copies, meaning exclusivity could have been much cheaper than that.

If FFXIII is to sell 5mil copies for the Xbox, exclusivity might have been as "low" as 60million. Considering sony is still losing money on every console, releasing a system seller like this before truly breaking even on the console might mean far greater financial pain. This could also explain the delay on GT5; if history is to be believed, it will move PS3s at a great pace once released, and they may be waiting for that to be less economically damaging.

Since Sony take a cut on so many points in the value chain, 3rd party exclusives much FAR less financial sense than 1st and 2nd party studios, other than for the PR of obtaining a high buck franchise. Though it can be argued that sony could use the push considering how they have fallen down on their marketing as of late.

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Orvisman
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:02:30 PM
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Sony should pony up some cash for third-party exclusives because if it combines that tactic with its stellar first- and second-party games then its set, match, and game over for its competitors.

This is what Sony did so well in the PS1/PS2 eras.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:10:47 PM

There really wasn't even a contest in either the ps1 or ps2 era...so I doubt they paid for anything...

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Diggity Dan
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:27:43 PM
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The way I see it, if any console is hurting for exclusives it's the Xbox. Sony has come out with one AAA exclusives after another this past 10 months or so. The rest of this year seems pretty impressive too. 1st party are the only exclusives that matter, and Sony has the definite advantage there.

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Ultimadream
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 12:35:42 PM
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In all honesty i think neither the 360 or the PS3 have many great exclusives moat of the better games seem to be going multi-platform, Street Fighter IV, Fallout 3, Dead Space, Bioshock, Tekken 6, FFXIII.

PS3 Exclusives:
MGS4, Resistance 1&2, Uncharted, Siren: Blood Curse

Though i cant wait for Heavy Rain, if its anything like Farenheit it will be amazing.

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crawdaddy
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 1:02:03 PM
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Who cares!!!! Most of you guys wouldn't want to play a MS exclusive anyway, so what difference does it make who has what exclusives. Just play the games that you want to play on whatever system you want to use, and don't worry about it. Surely your not jealous of any of the MS exclusives. Is that why you complain so much about it? Who cares if MS pays for it. Who cares whether or not Sony pays for it! Besides Sony has more important things to worry about taking care of than that. Play the ps3 games, and forget it!!!!!!!!!

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karneli lll
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 1:17:44 PM

Exclusives doesnt just mean the xbox exclusives

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 1:44:50 PM

We're at war sir, pick a side.

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Ultimadream
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 1:15:31 PM
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" so what difference does it make who has what exclusives. Just play the games that you want to play on whatever system you want to use, and don't worry about it."

Hmmmm is it me or is that a contradiction in its self, the point is that as they're exclusives you cant play them on what console you want.....

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crawdaddy
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:16:42 PM

Duh! I meant if you want to play a Sony exclusive use or buy a ps3, and if you want to play a MS exclusive use or buy a xbox 360. As does Ben many people have both systems, and if you don't shut up and play the one you have. Otherwise who cares who has what exclusive. Pretty simple!!!!

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bearbobby
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:23:04 PM

Lol, a wise man once said; "Don't feed the troll..."

Notice how right off the bat he made it a "YOU guys" vs MS. Way to stoke the fire man.

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aaronisbla
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 7:23:52 PM

Ultimadream is NOT a troll, he is just grumpy all the time, about a lot of different things. once you learn this, he's not so bad.

@ultimadream, you had have known what he meant lol

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JofaMang
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 7:47:26 PM

I think he was referring to Ultima feeding the troll, not being the troll~

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MadKatBebop
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 1:30:20 PM
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The only good MS exclusives are the Halo games(except for Halo wars) and the Gears of War games.

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Ultimadream
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 1:34:17 PM
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No, Theres Dead Rising and Fable II

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MadKatBebop
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 1:43:56 PM
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Oh yeah I forgot about those 2.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 1:46:54 PM
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System sellers should be snapped up if it's cost feasible, otherwise yeah let MS sink themselves by relying 90% on third party games. Letting FFXIII go screwed everybody, not just Sony.

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crump602
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:00:35 PM
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In my opinion the PS3 isn't even competing with M$ or the Wii....

Wii - 7-11yr olds
Xbox360 - 11-17yr olds
PS3 - 25-31yr olds (which most adults with jobs can afford! and best part hardly any annoying kids!)

Wii is for the casual gamer. 360 is for the hardcore. PS3 is for the elite gamer.
To me the Playstation brand is taking all the "old school" gamers from the Atari, NES, Master System, Genesis, SNES era and carrying them to the next level of gaming. So I say, Sony do your own thing and don't worry about the competition cuz there is none!
"Live in your world, play in ours!"

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The Stig
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:43:31 PM

What about the 18-24 year olds?

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RadioHeader
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 4:37:27 PM

lol yeah, and what about 32 and older?

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 1:16:06 AM

Hey, let's NOT forget us 56 & older gamers either!!!!

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SirLoin of Beef
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 11:19:14 AM

Generalizations are silly.

I'm 38 and grew up playing games on the Fairchild Channel F, Atari 2600 and Intellivision then the NES and Genesis and I also play games on the 360 (and actually like to!)

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piratedrunk
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 2:59:06 PM

I completely disagree. I am 25 and enjoy at least a few games on all of the systems. To break people down into casual, hardcore, and elite is pretty ridiculous.. what about people who like to play all kinds of games? I'm sure there are plenty of those out there.

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crump602
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:10:46 PM
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The real battle going on has nothing to do with the game companies or the gaming consoles.
There is no "fanboys" just age groups, old generation vs new generations.

The real battle is the "Old School" gamers vs the new "Soulja Boy" era gamers.
Thats where the "BEEF" is.

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Highlander
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:27:22 PM

Since us old skool gamers have the money, do you think we could arrange to silence a few of the Soulja Boy types?

I think you're right with this. The demographics of the Neilsne numbers make for interesting reading. They revealed that the primary users of both Wii and 360 are those without the financial resources to pay for games, they rely on Mommy and Daddy for their stuff. The primary PS3 audience is a whole generation removed from the 360 and Wii crowd, and it shows. I have great hopes that the greater diversity of games on the Wii may create a new generation that is closer to the 'old skool', but the middle generation is hooked on fps, action and horror.

One thing to consider when everyone is feeling smug about the games on the Wii, look at that primary audience again 6-11 years of age, that's who the games are aimed at. So when a veteran hard core game reviewer deigns to review a Wii game, their expectations are driven by different things. In other words I don't think that the reviews of Wii games in general are representative of how the games themselves are received by their target audiences.

That said, it's still very interesting in light of Sony's stance on first party games that the typical PS3 gamer is the one with the money, perhaps Sony knows what it's doing with it's price strategy after all?

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crump602
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:12:04 PM
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What do u think Ben?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:23:08 PM

I think we should all remember that games are designed for FUN.

"War," of any kind, never fits.

Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 4/14/2009 3:23:29 PM

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bearbobby
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:39:01 PM

Thanks you Ben. (Claps in corner.)

Does anyone remember why we started playing video games in the first place? To have a good time! It was fun!

We did it for that feeling we got when Mario made that impossible leap to the next mushroom platform, when we helped Link track down that last hidden key, when we finally made it through those damn underwater levels with Sonic.

And here's the thing I like least about gaming today, the generational gap. It seems most kids getting into gaming are more interested in the competition than the fun. Rather than saying "Damn, that was a sweet head shot," we've got kids screaming obscenities and straight up bigoted insults at someone who got a lucky shot. It's a turnoff and a blemish on the community. I'm not saying friendly competition isn't fun too, but let's keep it civil. Nobody likes a sore loser, or a condencending winner.

lol, end rant. Damn kids stay off my lawn!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 4:03:51 PM

It's one thing to go looking for trouble, it's quite another to fight the idiocy of others if only for the sake of injecting a little intelligence into the debate.

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NoSmokingBandit
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:27:34 PM
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Its good to see Sony getting a bit aggressive, especially now that they have the 1st party lineup to back them up. Sony's 1st party titles are the best games on the market, regardless of platform. Nothing can come close to what Sony's developers can do.

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LightShow
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:37:01 PM
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well Sony does have a point, but that doesn't change the fact that this is total PR, with the added bonus of causing M$ to release a press release in a couple of hours that amounts to "nuh-uh, loser!", much to our own amusement

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jaybiv
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:45:02 PM
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Sony has a valid point. Their 1st party lineup has been stellar the past 12 months. They would be wasting money throwing out cash to lock up a 3rd party title. As many of us have been saying since the PS3 launch along with Sony, this gaming generation is a marathon, not a sprint. The PS3 was built for at least 10 years of great gaming, while serving as the foundation for the PS4. I'm just grateful that we have competition between the three machines.

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ace_boon_coon
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:48:57 PM
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all MS does is waste money on third party games. its funny how RE5 is selling more on ps3 even though it's being advertised on 360

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coverton341
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 2:57:44 PM

Not only advertised they made a damn 360 bundle for the game.

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NULL
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:09:10 PM
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I think we can blame Too Human for knocking microsoft's first party confidence.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:19:57 PM
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I have more first and second party games than I do third party.

That should tell you something.

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ace_boon_coon
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:34:23 PM
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yeah too human bombed badly. i just wish square stop makin those RPG's for 360. they're all flopping. it's like square is after a quick buck. it's startin to piss me off

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Skatejimmy5
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:44:47 PM
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I like how Sony think, but I still want GTAIV and Fallout 3 DLC on the PS3.

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Thinker
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:54:38 PM
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Well, first-party titles aside, they need to do more than just "keep up" with the competition, which is unscrupulous and ruthless (look at MS history from the late 70s to now). For that, if Sony need to bribe developers, so be it. I would rather they join in this bribe-fest and come up trumps rather than keep away and "lose out" on exclusives.

Another thing: they really need to hire better marketing and advertising staff, and hopefully they will lower their price as well.

Last edited by Thinker on 4/14/2009 3:55:01 PM

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ace_boon_coon
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 3:56:37 PM
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@ thinker

i agree sony's advertising sucks

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 4:09:41 PM
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They probably got sick of MS spouting off at the mouth without provocation all the time. I still think it's okay to have a beef with a company if what they are doing hurts your hobby or the industry from which it flows. It isn't enough to "shut up and enjoy your games" we have to be responsible consumers too, otherwise we will get walked all over and inundated with sub-par games. Demand the best, reward the best, and you'll keep getting the best. Shun the crap and it won't make any money. Can you dig it?

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bxshotboi
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 4:24:43 PM
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like many others i want sony to continue supporting mainly their first party devs

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bamf
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 4:39:47 PM
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Spending money on your own studios is better than writing cheques for 3rd party exclusives. You have control over your own property while who knows how well a 3rd party game could turn out. Imagine Sony had spent millions on Haze? Disaster.
However sometimes there are franchises bi enough to shift unit just because of the name and GTA is one of them. Paying for that exclusive would have been worth it and would have helped sell a few more PS3's. Even if it was onlt a timed exclusive, say for a year.

I still would of liked some of PS2's old franchises to stay exclusive to PS3 i.e. Devil May Cry, Resident Evil etc and especially games like Tekken.

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RadioHeader
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 4:54:41 PM
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Maybe MS just decided they'd blow all the free money generated by online subscriptions. In effect, the bots are paying both yearly and one-off fees for 3rd party/rate DLC.

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crawdaddy
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 5:02:27 PM
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It,s sad! We don't just have gamers anymore. We have xbox 360 fanboys, and we have ps3 fanboys, and they do look at it like WorldEndsWithMe said "This is war-Pick a side", and that is how both system fanboys look at it. They enjoy the conflict more than gaming. It is sad that this is the direction that gaming has gone, but it will never make any difference because the fanboys will always have their little war that they enjoy so much. It is very sad that we can't all just play the games without all this conflict.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 5:55:26 PM

That was a stephen colbert reference, you take everything way too seriously dude.

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MadKatBebop
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 7:51:01 PM

I know man! we cant just have fun like we use to.

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JofaMang
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 9:18:40 PM

The media often will have a polarizing effect, causing the most vocal fundamentalist of type on each site of the debate to be recognized as a beacon for each group. This is a severely unfair representation, as it paints the majority of each group with the same brush as the most extreme holders of the similar opinion.

This in turn, normalizes extremism, often inciting similar styles and reactions from members of each side of the debate that ordinarily would be more open to discussion, as opposed to fanboi-ism. This is in part due to each side of the debate recognizing not only extremism as a fair representative of their side, but also as negatively representative of their opponents.

PS3 fanboys are born of 360 fanboys that are born of PS3 fanboys and on and on ad nausem. The reality is that a very vast silent majority is just not that excited or incensed about the whole thing, and just want to read about and enjoy being part of a likeminded community. I don't feel that this site falls into the polarizing category, but many do, and profit greatly from elevating the discussion to a fanboy war. Though I do admit that I watching a couple go-hard retard fanboys crush their thick cro-magnon skulls against eachother is a guilty pleasure of mine.

On a side note, where are the FanGirls? Oh yeah, not surfing a tide of adolescent testosterone.

Go Go Journalism Degree specializing in Political Sciences~

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Ultimadream
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 5:57:04 PM
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Competition has been around since the living species began!, surely you must have accepted that by now!

but back in the megadrive and Snes days there was no 'sides' i rememebr id go round a friends and play on his Snes and other way round. It comes down to popularity and things being blown over proportion.

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jdt1981
Tuesday, April 14, 2009 @ 6:11:36 PM
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The fact that M$ has hardly any first party studios anymore after letting many first party studios leave or go out of business the last few years leads me to question how committed they are to the videogame business. Sony's philosophy makes much more sense if you're committed for the long haul because no matter what happens in the videogame business they have a network of first party studios that will make exclusive games for the PS3, PSP, PS4, PSP2, etc.

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OriginalSin
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 6:33:45 AM
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I think Sony is right on this one.... their 1st party developers are indeed awesome and the games rock. I'd much rather have Sony spend their time and money on their exclusives and on games that are made for the PS3 specifically than spending time and money on multi platform titles that will never be of the same standard unless M$ uses blu ray... which will never happen.

But also there are games and special situations that I think Sony should bend their rules a little. Like the Lost and Dammned exclusive content that M$ got... If I was Sony's exec I'd say cool let them have it but at the same time pay Rockstar to do yet another separate exclusive content for the PS3... You know fight fire with fire.

They don't have to do it with all the games just the big ones that MS openly tries to steal to hurt Sony's market....

As an example: I've heard that FFVII is available on the Japanese PSN. Maybe Sony can keep that exclusive to the PSN for a certain time or forever.... It might be a small thing but small things ad up and they can then create some counter measures to MS and it will definitely make things a lot more interesting on the market when it comes to sales...

I have faith in Sony and their first party developers... would be nice to see them taking on M$ head to head thou... Maybe be more aggressive and definitely revamp their advertising and marketing campaigns...

I say let's see how MS handles things when Sony really turns up the heat...

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crawdaddy
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 8:16:51 AM
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Really, I just wish that all game developers developed all their games for all game systems. Then we could all play any game we wanted. Wouldn't that be better than having any exclusives!

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JofaMang
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 9:19:11 AM
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Competition drives innovation. In a perfect world, every game dev would always release each title perfectly for every system. It is not a perfect world.

Without the competition like what we have now, I would be concerned that the consumers would not be getting the best product possible.

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SirLoin of Beef
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 11:25:32 AM
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MS has very little in first party publishing nowadays. Bungie broke away from them (yes, I know it was its own company before joining up with MS) and the company that made Halo Wars isn't around anymore. I wish they'd throw more resources into developing quality first party games than into gaining exclusive third party ones.

In my perfect gaming world, all third party titles would be available for both PS3 and the 360. Then the two can duke it out to determine who gets what DLC.

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crawdaddy
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 12:08:48 PM
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@JofaMang: The competition part comes between all the different game developers to make a better game than the others, and doesn't need to be about exclusive games. Any of the developers could make their games for all systems, and compete with other developers to try to make a better game than other developers. Besides if they developed games for all systems, they would sell a lot more of any given game, which would be good for everybody. No exclusives required for competition!!!!!!!!

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jdt1981
Wednesday, April 15, 2009 @ 1:36:39 PM

If every game made was on every system then people would just buy the cheapest system and we wouldn't get a console like the PS3 that is packed with cutting edge tech like Blu-Ray and the CELL processor. Games would advance slowly because cheap systems usually have cheap antiquated hardware inside so we would all be stuck playing the Wii with last gen hardware and games. We wouldn't have cutting edge games like MGS4, KZ2 and Uncharted.

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rell
Thursday, April 16, 2009 @ 11:35:49 AM
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Im glad I trade my 360 in for a ps3. Do I regret it hell noooooooo. Sony for life.

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Deleted User
Saturday, April 18, 2009 @ 12:29:14 PM
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Microsoft has always been 3rd party centric. I'm sure everyone has seen the "Developers, Developers, Developers!" video. They actually have a support group that's only job is to aid 3rd party develoeprs.

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