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No GT5 In 2009, Arkham Asylum PS3 DLC To Be Free

Sony's E3 press conference is tomorrow but to tide you over until then, we've got a few new updates for you.

As reported by Variety's The Cut Scene, Gran Turismo 5 really won't be released this year, contrary to the high hopes of racing aficionados. There's also the mention that God of War III has "slipped" to 2010, but that's definitely not accurate. The last we heard, the game was set for a March 2010 release, with only the scant possibility that it may launch in January. Any talk about it coming out in 2009 is strictly based on speculation and wishful thinking. The blog also states that Microsoft will have a big musical-oriented surprise at their conference today, and Joystiq has confirmed that the upcoming exclusive PS3 DLC for Batman: Arkham Asylum - where you can play as The Joker - will be free. Just as a reminder, the game was initially scheduled to release later this month but has now been delayed until August 25. We have several great titles to keep us occupied until then, though. For instance, you can have a ton of fun with the highly addictive inFamous; it's one of 2009's must-plays.

We're counting the hours to Sony's conference tomorrow - 11 a.m. PST, 2 p.m. EST - and you can be sure that we'll bring you the news as it happens.

6/1/2009 Ben Dutka

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Nynja
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 12:40:47 PM
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"you can have a ton of fun with the highly addictive inFamous; it's one of 2009's must-plays."

That's an understatement.

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MornelitheVT
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 12:46:56 PM
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I'll wait for PD/Sony to speak, before my GT5 hopes are dashed. No offense Ben, but i'm just not giving up that easily. 8P


Morne

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:44:11 PM

Same

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Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:54:36 PM

Here

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 12:47:56 PM
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The big musical surprise MS had was an onstage appearance by the last remaining live Beatles (Paul and Ringo). No music though, just some air guitar. Apparently the big surprise is that one Beatles track (All You Need is Love) will be exclusive to XBL.

Whoopti-doo...

[No offense to Microsoft, but in all honesty, I can say that a Singstar version with 20 queen tracks for me to sing along with, which includes the music videos of the tracks, is about 100 times more attractive than a Beatles air-guitar game. So, in that spirit, I ask, was this really your big surprise? Really? I mean, Really!?]

Now Tony Hawk is showing us the ropes on a Skate controller....yay.

Next up, Modern Warfare 2 - not really my cup of tea, so yay, I think.

Two map packs for XBL, no indication of exclusivity - yet...

Oh, now they have some SquEnix t...folks on to talk about FFXIII. Oh, they're so excited to be showing it running on a 360 - let's hope the GPU doesn't implode onstage....I guess MS will go on and on about this since they were first to show the game at this year's E3 ...blah..blah..blah...

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www
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:48:05 PM

Yea,MS conference to me is just uninteresting.

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Macintoshgamer
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:20:25 PM

Hideo Kojima got in stagte at the Microsoft conference at E3 some time ago. He announced that a new Metal Gear Solid game is in the works, and that it's called Metal Gear Solid Rising. It will be available for the Xbox 360, meaning that Sony will no longer have it as an exclusive.

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Skatejimmy5
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 12:49:36 PM
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"The blog also states that Microsoft will have a big musical-oriented surprise at their conference today."

I guess that the Beatles will be there (the remains).

^Dammit, TheHighlander beat me to it... :P

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MornelitheVT
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 12:52:38 PM
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Ugh....the Beatles? Aren't they dead yet?

3 down, 2 to go.


Morne

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Havoc
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:50:47 PM

Your an idiot for saying that and not knowing that their were four of them. The fab four.

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Naga
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:17:17 PM

Beatles > overated

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 1:25:27 PM
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After some lack luster Xbox exclusive news, MS has got to the point of announcing Forza 3. They're calling it the definitive racing game of this generation. Piffle, GT5 Prolog currently holds that title and it's a bloody demo. Come on Polyphony and Sony, get your collective act together and get GT5 done. Show these folks what a definitive racing game actually looks like.

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Totalz
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 1:25:54 PM
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Watching the microsoft conference live, Left 4 dead 2, crackdown 2 and forza 3 have been announced.

GT5 really does have some competition...

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 1:45:14 PM

GT5Prologue You mean, GT5 hasn't yet been given a date, and based on past performanec will actually meet the definition of the term 'definitive game'. Forza 3 may well be a great game, however previous iterations of Forza have, IMHO, not exceeded GT4. So how can Forza3 be said to be definitive when it's not clear whether it can even exceed GT4, never mid GT5?

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Totalz
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 1:58:14 PM

OMG not Kojima...I am now hanging myself.

They've got a FULL BODY CAPTURE motion control thing...Sony need to pull out something special to beat this stuff.

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OPHIDIAN
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 1:26:16 PM
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That news has really hurt me, I had high hopes. Just bought Driving Force GT wheel for about £200, that's around $380!

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Robochic
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 1:38:25 PM
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Watching the M$ conference live, it's actually really boring to me at least and no suprise 2 more halos forza is the only one that looks good so far from their conference.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 1:51:06 PM
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So, Alan Wait (oops - Wake), Halo Reach, ODST, Forz3, Left 4 Dead Again (sorry I meant 2), Splinter Cell, Crackdown, Joyride and Shadow Complex?

That's the stellar - exclusive - line up?

Now they're talking about piping SkyTV through XBL in the UK. I guess they needed something to challenge PlayTV there. If it doesn't have a cost advantage, I don't see many people being willing to tie up their Internet connection with a live TV feed on a video Game console with all the reliability of an old Yugo or Lada.

Gosh, mind blowing stuff there from Microsoft. I guess we'd better look out for the sting at the end of the presentation eh?

Uh-oh, here it comes, Kojima just took the stage. MGS on 360 incoming!

Metal Gear Rising - on 360 - in development now.

Supposedly something completely new in Metal Geat. Kojima says "But, I didn't say anything about Solid Snake"... Konami, when is your press conference?

Looks like 360 owners will finally get a Metal Gear game, just not MGS4, and not for a while.

Oh, now it's motion controllers, no it sounds like it's a motion tracking system through a camera. Wait, doesn't PSEye already do this...?

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Robochic
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 1:55:01 PM
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MGS NOOOOOOOOOOOO Why why? anyone have an answer?

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www
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:50:17 PM

To me it comes as a no surprise, am always right about my gut feelings

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karneli lll
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 1:55:55 PM
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Ouch, mgs for the 360,at least its raiden, kojima said its not snake.

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Jiggy
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 1:57:00 PM
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HAHAHAH!! That entire motion control with your body is crackin' me up! I hope those players got paid to look retarded cause its exactly what they are doing.

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Catastrophe
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:02:50 PM
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ok i DO HOPE sony has SOMETHING to counter the metal gear announcement....

and yeah.... any diference with psEye? cos i dont see one...

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KevinCairo
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:04:10 PM
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How childish is the whole "Haha, stole your franchise!" attitude of MS, seriously?

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Midris7
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:05:08 PM
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I'm starting to get worried about all these things. I guess I was underestimating what M$ could annouce... Do you guys think that I'm overeactng? I mean MGS...Why?

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SneakyBeaver
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:30:51 PM

Yep, overreacting. Sony's got a lot more planned for tomorrow.

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BikerSaint
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:05:14 PM
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Hey Guys,
Just wanted to give my own "Thanks" for keeping on top of things, and keeping the rest of us in the loop!!!!!

Hey Highlander, just curious, I know you're into the tech side of things, so are you right there at E3????

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:48:49 PM

Sadly not, I'm just a gaming & hardware geek watching on several sites and commenting here.

If I ever have time in my day job for a second day job, I'll have to do some classes to learn how to write properly. Then maybe I might be able to lay some professional claim to writing about games but for now I'll settle for amateur.

I've written articles for several tech and gaming news sites over the years, but apart from one particular stint I've always been an occasional contributor and regular reader.

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Totalz
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:06:28 PM
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LOL the woman doing the motion control thing on stage looks like a retard!!

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Xzer0
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:07:16 PM
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But the counting on teaser site had not been stopped? Is it other MGS for PS3 only, becasue how I understand the main character is Raiden not a Gray Fox or Snake. Because on teaser was site was Gray Fox and Big Boss picture.
Ok I just saw a pic of This MGs Rising an on that pic is Gray Fox not a Raiden(he just colud not change his eye color nad lose one eye)

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KevinCairo
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:07:52 PM
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I just realized the perverse comedic potential of the Project Natal motion sensing stuff tied in with the dashboard avatars... Ooooooh, boy, that's gonna get silly.

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Juanalf
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:14:17 PM
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Dam Microsoft don't play around.I sweating cause they just made Live twice as strong as before and basically deleted the eye toy.Sony has show big big stuff top 360.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:52:54 PM

Excuse me? The Eyetoy already has motion sensing software available on PSN and has done so for more than 12 months, Microsoft is playing catch up. There is nothing here that is in any way revolutionary. As for their game line up, apart from the MGS title which will be exclusive to Xbox, there is really very little of any significance. Alan wait, Forza, Left 4 Dead Again, More Modern Warfare, I mean really what was there in this presentation that really lit the place up?

To me the tone was set with the Beatles appearance. Only two of the original 5 are still alive (sounds familiar to some Xbox 360 owners eh?) and they're just bringing the same old music - remastered. Just like the rest of the line up. It's ll been seen before, including the motion capturing camera.

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Juanalf
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:18:38 PM

I understand what you're saying but you have to admit that Microsoft set the bar high for both Nintendo and Sony.All this time Sony has been trying to match Live and but Microsoft just took another giant step.Maybe Sony will blow Microsoft out of the water,I guess tomorrow we will find out.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:18:01 PM
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Wow... that's all I can say about Project Natal... WOW...

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:19:21 PM
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That thing with the virtual boy was the most amazing thing I have ever seen...

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Jiggy
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:20:34 PM
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I may be wrong on this, but last time I checked a video game system was supposed to be a relaxing and enjoyable experience with games that enclose you in an epic story. I don't wanna be talking to Milo about my problems when I have real friends/family to do that with. Also if I wanted to exercise I'd go lift some weights and actually gain muscle. And they showed off one BIG game, MGS...which they bought obviously. I really don't see why motion control needs to be so popular. Sony better show off all the top games. That's all I care about

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:24:23 PM
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I'm sure the MGS game is also coming to the PS3, no? Since it was announced on the PS3 Famitsu.

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hobgoblin
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:24:28 PM
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Was watching the games, thinking only Splinter Cell and Alan Wake would be the only things that would interest me. Now with 1080p downloads and Project Natal amongst other features, it seems Sony is going to have to (as per usual I might add) pull something extraordinary out of the bag 2morrow. Just when I thought Sony would have E3 this year. Granted, I have both consoles, but it would be nice for Sony to announce things on this scale for once instead of picking up the slack :(

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karneli lll
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:25:09 PM
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I must admit,the natal is high tech, but i can only see the wii games going to the 360. Its funny how Kojima corrected him and said not snake.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:29:13 PM
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Let's not count Sony out, but that Natal technology is almost like unveiling a new console. It's hard for games to go up against that, no matter how awesome they are. M$ may have just struck the perfect combination between next-gen and Wii.

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questing222
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:29:48 PM
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Karnel.. the kojima "correction" was massively scripted.

The saddest thing is that they clearly said the metal gear "Franchise" will now be on the 360.
Starting with this newly announced title

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karneli lll
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:06:52 PM

The way Kojima said it, its like "the 360 is getting a spin off coz my bosses got paid".I think it will be a ff XIII / FF versus XIII story,one for commercial purposes, the other for artistic purposes.

I bet Kojima feels like crap; from a 50 gig game to a 12+ gig game

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:33:16 PM
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I guess Kojima really didn't care much about making the most technically advanced games.

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HOODGE
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:52:38 PM

No Stickemup IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY Microsoft is gonna throw at him for doing so. Who cares in the end all these guys think about is their retirement billions.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:34:58 PM
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I told you guys it was Sony's E3 to lose. I wasn't just being a hater!

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:56:51 PM

And how is it that this Press conference does anything that makes Sony likely to lose? Seriously, what earth shattering announcement was made?

The only 'surprise' is a Konami/Kojima MGS game on the 360. But considering that MGS4 was supposed to be the be all and end all for MGS, all I can say is.....so what. But, are you really saying that this one game combined with the rest of MS's presentation is stronger than just the confirmed line up from Sony et al? Kinda soon to declare a winner when Sony is still warming up in the bull pen.

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karneli lll
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:11:23 PM

Highlander, he means Sony have already won,its just up to them (Sony) to decide if they'll lose

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:55:18 PM

@Karnelli - Indeed, I missed that sense in the original comment.

I guess I'm actually in the position of feeling that Microsoft really missed an opportunity here. to my eye the game lineup really isn't that good, and apart from an interesting applet to go with the motion tracking camera, everything else really felt like secondary applications, not core stuff.

There was only one 'surprise' in the game line up, and it was really to be expected and not really a big shocker in the end, apart from that I really find than on reflection I'm trying really hard, but failing to see Emperor Bill's new clothes, in fact, Bill is looking decidedly naked. Ew!

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Juanalf
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:35:31 PM
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I just pray that Sony doesn't waste more than 5 minutes on the crappy psp.I must say that Microsoft has woah me at E3 once again,I have a small hope that Sony can do the same.

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SaintX
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:35:32 PM
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Omg, just when i thought MS press conference is lack luster, the last two announcement was just insane. Well the Metal Gear Rising was pretty alright, but what blew me totally away is the Project Natal. That was completely insane. Completely interactive and so high tech. Sony demonstrated a similar concept with the playstation eye but that was like nearly 2 years ago and theres no news ever since. Man, i thought Sony is gonna blow this E3 away, guess now MS clearly owns this. What could possibly Sony pull out its bag to WOW us. Most of its top-secret stuff seems to be leaked out before they even make any official annoucement.

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phantomMenace
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:36:49 PM
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I kinda saw it coming but it still hurt to see the creator of my favorite series walk on that stage. I know money will be better but I'm tired of these companies selling out to ms. I won't complain as long as the PS3 gets the MGS series on par with MGS4 and not watered down for the 360, cause we all know it couldn't be done as is on it. As for Natal I couldn't care less, I honestly don't see myself talking to some AI when I have friends and I will never paint a stupid pic. However, it they find some way to use that in a shooter and make it really good I'm in. Other than that MS didn't really do anything to sway me.

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phantomMenace
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:37:05 PM
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KevinCairo
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:37:45 PM
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I'm gonna have too call BS on Milo; they definitely chocked it up to more than it really was.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:37:58 PM
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Sony has dropped the ball horribly on the Playstation Eye, they could have done something like that years ago....

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:14:20 PM

They have - the PSEye does motion tracking and there are games for it on PSN.

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Dave702
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:38:07 PM
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WHAT THE %^#%^!$ KOJIMA!!!!!!!!!!!

SONY BETTER DO SOMETHING TOMORROW

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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questing222
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:38:37 PM
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You have to admit, That boy robot was absolutely incredible.
This generation hasn't really felt like a "next" generatiojn until i just witnessed a woman talking and interacting directly to a simulated life form.
Imagine what Fallout 3 would have been like without the crappy text... talking directly to characters who react to your voice and the way you speak. The possibilites are endless, and i hope Sony has an answer to this.

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SaintX
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:43:12 PM
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I tell you if Sony is planning on unveiling that motion sensing controller, i would strongly suggest them to scrap that project. Man, that controller compared to project natal would look like a joke man. Come on Sony, dont disappoint us.

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hobgoblin
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:49:45 PM

I've just this moment thought that

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Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:45:13 PM
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@questing - Yeah that would be incredible, but until I actually see a game that does it right, I wont believe it.

A lot of the times we get a bunch of talk about things that are supposed to revolutionize and never really leave the ground. As cool as the Wii-mote may be for some people (not me) I think it has way underperformed in games. It's a novelty, but it's never really been done right to where you feel it's really interactive.

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Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:46:56 PM
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Wow, I simply don't know what to say. Microsoft's press conference just floored me. Its just so frustrating seeing all that stuff they are adding to Live and we have the absolutely pitiful Home.

I would happily trade Home in its entirety and pay $5/month for stuff like the radio and Netflix, sky, twitter, facebook, party chat. That stuff is amazing and for what it costs to be a gold member an absolute f'n steal. I used to hate on it like all the other PS3 fans, but I simply can't feel anything but completely overwhelmed with what MS brought to the table today.

WOW, I am leaving now to pick up a 360.

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End of line
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:52:14 PM

"Microsoft's press conference just floored me." How exactly. Woopy do @ facebook/twitter.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:53:44 PM

You have this thing on your PS3, it's called a web browser, it can take you to strange places like Hulu, You Tube, Facebook, Twitter and more, all you have to do is type....

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hobgoblin
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:49:21 PM
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I just have a feeling that Sony will just show "new footage" of games that we all know about (Uncharted 2, GoW3, MAG etc). I'm betting no "big" (a la Final Fantasy and Metal Gear Solid) exclusives from 360 to PS3, it'll just be info thats been floating around on the Net these past couple of weeks.

Microsoft bringing a radio station to the Box, something that PSP did AGES ago (albeit Internet radio), but PS3 never got it???. With some of the stuff on show 2nite, you gotta wonder wtf Sony is doing.

And Project Natal, fair enough its motion capture, but i found it really impressive. I just hope that Sony don't come onto the stage 2morrow and announce a ps3-wiimote type controller, I don't think people will be as impressed.

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vicious54
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:57:07 PM

Just go online to Pandora and listen to the radio. What is so great about a radio on you console, when you can just stream your own music? Who listens to a radio and reads a newspaper?

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:58:05 PM

It's built into your PS3, it's called a web browser, and it works with Internet Radio stations, You Tube, Hulu, Twitter, Facebook and much, much more. Please stop being dazzled by the hype and look at the facts.

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hobgoblin
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:51:00 PM

I realise that you can access these via the web browser (radio, twitter, facebook), but with Microsoft keep going on about their "online community", by having these 2 hugely popular (i believe ;))apps (twitter, facebook) built into NXE, they are showing how dedicated they are into proving this.

I have both consoles so i get the best of both worlds, but it's simple things like these that I can't understand why Sony doesn't have them.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:14:39 PM

I'm fully aware that I am being cynical and playing devil's advocate on MS today, however...

Did you make this same approving noise when Sony included Google searching from the XMB directly? Or a menu item to initiate a google search based on the game you were currently selecting?

Adding a front end for Facebook or Twitter really is nothing particularly new to me. Actually, if Sony simply added the ability to place Internet bookmarks in the XMB along side the Browser Icon so I could bookmark Twitter, Facebook, etc... right there in the XMB, I would consider that it was 99% functionaly equivalent to what Microsoft has done. In that light, I find it hard to be head over heels impressed by something that is essentially a convenience for console owners who don't have access to a real browser.

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hobgoblin
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:29:03 PM

"Did you make this same approving noise when Sony included Google searching from the XMB directly? Or a menu item to initiate a google search based on the game you were currently selecting?"

Ok, fair enough, when these were introduced I did find them slightly pointless :)

What I'm trying to say (and apologies if it's not coming out right) is that Microsoft seem to know what people what and give it to them.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love Sony's conference to wipe the floor with the 360 tomorrow. Like I've said, game-wise there was nothing mentioned that was (imo) excellent. Splinter Cell looked good as did Alan Wake. I just thought the features after the games were a nice touch.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:43:49 PM

@w3r3wolf

I'll agree that they are nice additions and examples of adding functionality that the consumer may indeed like. I'd love for Sony to do more of what they started with Internet radio on the PSP and Google searching on the PS3. Sounds like we probably agree. My apologies for being so reactionary today.

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hobgoblin
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 @ 1:25:44 AM

@ TheHighlander

No apologies necessary mate. Just got to see what Sony brings to the table tonight(UK)/ in the morning(US).

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HOODGE
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:49:46 PM
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Just got done watching the Microsoft press conference. OMG just what I thought! Yup Microsoft stole a piece of Kojima san to the 360. Ouch!! I knew they would do it again this year.

All I can honestly say is I was sweating through that whole presentation, and it seems like unless Sony has some amazing new features on PSN to unveil at E3 or sometime soon, Live is gonna attract more gamers (casual and hardcore) to the 360. As amazing as the PS3 exclusives are and how they run on PSN, Sony has their work cut out to compete with Live.

Forza 3 looked pretty cool, but looked more and more like an Arcade racer then a racing simulator in that presentation. Looks a lot like the PGR series. I still feel GT5 is gonna win in that area. GT5 looks way more sim like than what I saw with Forza 3.

Alan Wake looked pretty cool as well.

Well I'm excited to see Sony's conference tomorrow. I still feel they have the better exclusive game line up, but where they need to also focus on is PSN and offer amazing features that Live has and will have with all those amazing announcements. They better announce Voice Messaging, In game voice chat, and Game invites on the fly for a starter tomorrow.

As much as I love my PS3, it seems like Microsoft is pulling away from Sony in the area of their online services and likely so as a subscription based service, Microsoft can afford to put all this candy into Xbox Live. With the more powerful hardware Sony has in the PS3, just makes you wonder what Sony could do if more money was poured into the PSN possibly by adding a subscription fee. For services like Microsoft offers, I'd be happy to fork over 50 beans for all that.

Good luck Sony to you tomorrow, am eagerly awaiting you're show. Microsoft has definately raised the bar in some areas. As for exclusive games content, Sony steals the show.

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vicious54
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:00:47 PM

Use your web browers on your ps3.

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telly
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:03:59 PM

Well said. Sony's service ain't bad, but it just doesn't hold a candle to Live, by any objective standard.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:06:20 PM

Exclusives they showed

Alan Wait - action/shooter
Halo ODST - expansion pack, action/fps
Halo Reach - Honestly it's getting a bit like Mario now, action...
Left 4 Dead Again - action, zombies, fps
Forza 3 - car racing sim
Splinter Cell - Stealth, action, shooter
Crackdown 2, action shooter
Joyride 2, Social gaming version of car-jacking?
Shadow Complex, 2D/3D action

That's it. Apart from MGS which we know little to nothing about, that was it for Xbox exclusives. Bringing SkyTV to Xbox has no impact outside of Europe and really feels like a response to PlayTV. Integration with facebook was their only option since they won't let you run a browser on the Xbox.

Perhaps I'm being overly cynical, but I really found nothing too surprising except Kojima actually being on Stage for MS. With the Money MS throws around and the size of their install base it would be nuts if Konami didn't try to do an MGS game on the Xbox.

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Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 2:59:14 PM
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What I think holds down Sony conferences is the PSP and PS2. Microsoft only talks about the 360 and Live. As cool as the PSP is, nothing on it will really make people say WOW. And well the PS2... nobody cares.

Sony really has to do something tomorrow. For the first time this generation, I almost kinda feel left out by not having a 360.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:11:59 PM

PSP - they have a brand new model coming out with a new content delivery mechanism - downloads to MemoryStick.

PSP - the upcoming Soul Calibur is exclusive to PSP, as is LBP and many others. Sure we know about them, but we knew about most of the 360 line up as well.

PS2, it's still there and still selling games, not glitzy perhaps, but solid, and solid is profitable.

PS3, they have a lot to show. Home has been really building, and if we're really honest XBL has *nothing* to touch it. Sony is working on an enhanced motion control scheme, but already has SixAxis and PSEye with motion tracking. Exclusive blockbuster games galore will be announced/presented. And of course there will be the multi-platform games.

Really, it's very early to try to declare MS a winner here and say that Sony has to respond. Especially considering how weak Microsoft's presentation actually was. Incidentally, was anyone else expecting a new HD Zune and Zune/360 integration? Didn't see it, did you?

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:26:11 PM

I see the Xbox Defense Force is out and about...

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sunspider13
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:16:55 PM

I'm with you Highlander, the only thing that surprised me was Kojima coming onstage to unveil Raiden for the 360. When are people going to stop falling for the smoke and mirrors routine of MS?

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HOODGE
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:08:50 PM
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By the way that Natal Motion sensing controller blew me away. OMG that thing looks so cool and talk about a new innovative step in the area of game interaction. Loved that racing game presentation. Gives you an idea where gaming could be heading with that awesome device. Game of Golf, Racing games, hockey, football, shooting games, fighting games. Possibilities are endless.

Oh well glad I own all 3 next gen systems as I have the best of both worlds.

Sony you have your work cut out for you.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:13:18 PM

Sony has motion tracking. It's called a PSEye and it tracks user motion and the games on screen respond to your motion. No other controller or wand required, just your own body.

Sorry, but this is not new, unless your context is the Xbox 360.

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HOODGE
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:20:44 PM

The only problem though Highlander is that Sony has really brought nothing to the table that utilizes that technology yet and it's been out for 2 years. Sure they have that card game that comes packed with the eye, but that's hardly anything close to what I just saw today with Natal.

And how it interacts with the console like turning it on and responding to voice and moving through the dashboard like that was very very cool.

My favorite system is the PS3, but they HAVE THEIR WORK CUT OUT FOR THEM.

Geez Ben are you ever quiet, still drooling over Natal? Lol's. Can't wait for you're response on Microsofts awesome show.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:24:38 PM

Hoodge,

There are three (or is it 4) Sony published mini-games on PSN right now that use full body motion capture exclusively. Sony brought the peripheral and games and no one else did - did you support the concept by purchasing a PSEye and any or all of those mini-games? I did. In a way they're like Flower or Linger in the Shadows in that they are essentially interactive art, or images. However they are fun, and relaxing, and if you're drunk, they can be a little mind blowing....LOL.

Sorry, I just don't see this as revolutionary on Microsoft's part. It's a good idea, but not a new one.

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telly
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:30:02 PM

My thoughts exactly. Platform Agnosticism rules.

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questing222
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:16:34 PM
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A vid of those horrible words we didn't want to hear.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rlw27RhdFEc

I quote..."It is my pleasure to announce that i am bringing the metal gear solid franchise to xbox 360"

the "Franchise" part hurts the most

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questing222
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:20:39 PM
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Highlander.. stop being a tool. Eyetoy is old technology, just like microsofts cam, whatever its called.
This is a new 3d positioning tool. its awesome. just deal with it.

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vicious54
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:41:54 PM

What games are you going to play on your new and improved eye toy? They didn't show it with anykind of real game. I'm not a fanboy but come on, what is the point of using for your xbl?

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questing222
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:25:19 PM
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Two things sony must NOT do tommorow.

1. Use any kind of stats/bar graphs.

I was really impressed when the MS guy said they wouldn't be showing any stats and talking.. just SHOWING great stuff.

2. Dony show a wiimote rip off. After Natal, that'd be incredibly embaressing.

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dfoz3
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:25:51 PM
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I own a ps3 and a 360, I just have to say it is sad how defensive everyone gets over their favorite platforms. Natal is not the Eye Toy. That is a weak comparison and making jokes about Alan Wait in a comment thread about GT5's release date is pretty ironic. lol...

Anyways, I loved MS's show and I do hope Sony ups the ante tomorrow because I love my new ps3. The way I see it, MS owns the interface and online community but Sony owns the hardware department hands down. Please give me some goods to play on my beautiful stealth console.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:31:12 PM

Well pardon me for being a cynic, I'm allowed an opinion and I am not bound by journalistic principles to be entirely fair and unbiased.

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bebestorm
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:44:32 PM

@dfoz3 I agree with you..I have both consoles and I believe MS had good show..I can't wait to see Sonys tomorrow!

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vicious54
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:47:40 PM

Well said, but really did it blow your mind away? I am looking forward to the Alan Wake game but please no more gimmicks. Until, I can use if for something usefull, like better precision of control, just drop it.

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dfoz3
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:44:33 PM

No, it didn't blow my mind, but nothing really does these days. Sony will not blow my mind either I am sure. That said, I saw way more exclusives that I will be looking forward to than previously thought MS would have. L4D was the most fun online cooperative game that I have ever played and I can't wait for it. Sony should still absolutely own the exclusive department this year as long as they don't all fade into 2010.

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tes37
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:39:40 PM
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I won't buy anything microsoft, I don't care what it is, prenatal, postnatal. Sony doesn't have to worry about this customer.

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Oxvial
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:41:30 PM
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First the Miis and now this poor Nintendo I think Microsoft was more about challenge them with the casual audience.

Now Metal Gear that was a HUGE hit if turns to be exclusive I wonder if Metal Gear Solid 5 turns to be going on the 360 too.

but to be honest the others games well like generic..just alan wake but I can play that on my Pc too only if the Metal Gear game turns to be exclusive I would need to get a 360.

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Juanalf
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:45:06 PM
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Lol...we are spamming this post with unrelated stuff,Ben must be pissed.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:06:29 PM

My fault probably, I was replying to Ben's aside about the big musical surprise in MS's E3 presentation and it kinda snowballed from there.

I didn't mean for the thread to jump the rails so much that it landed on a completely nw set of rails.

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questing222
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:45:45 PM
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I really feel sorry for people who are so wrapped up in brand loyalty that they cant even give credit where credit is due.

What we saw today was beautiful and unexpected. And as a PS3 owner i WILL NOT settle for second best.
I DEMAND that sony offer me just as good a service, and to do that the need to up their game.

I dont think this is too much to ask of the best gaming company in the world.

I swear, if sony took a dump in a box and called it a ps4 some of you would buy it.
Grow up, and demand better.

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vicious54
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:55:26 PM

Sorry, I enjoy my pc(ps3) machine way too much. I know they are supposed to be entertainment consoles but I can watch netflix on my ps3 so what is your problem with the browser.

By the way, I didn't give you a thumbs down.

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isaya85
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:55:19 PM
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M$ really didn't announce anything megaton just a few new features for xbl and MGSR which we all new konami was going to bring a MGS game to 360 anyway so M$ conference really lagged this year, show them who's boss Sony!!!

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www
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:03:09 PM

Agreed one hundred

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JDC80
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 3:57:50 PM
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I think people are hitting the panic button way too quick other then project Natal and a exclusive MSG game what are you sweating about? I mean are you going to drop your PS3 for one extra song on "RockBand: Beatles" or get one or two extra maps for "COD: Modern Warfare 2"?

As for new features for XBL you can do that on your PS3 browser. MS had a fine presentation but acting like what they show is a death blow for Sony is putting the cart before the horse.

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www
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:01:57 PM
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I don't know but i feel MS conference was just boring....alan wake,halo something,new mgs for 360,ffxiii......i mean, ps3 already has a classic mgs4,it already has ffxiii demo out,ps3 is not only living off uncharted or resistance or killzone unlike 360 which acts like it can't live without halo......SHEESH! If am right ps3 is like a man whiles 360 is so gurly girly. Can't you do without Halo?

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questing222
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:05:18 PM
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Alan Wake looked absolutely incredible to be fair.
Graphically one of the best games i've ever seen.

Also, Ign have just confirmed that Metal gear rising is xbox exclusive :(

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:07:37 PM

Yeah, that was implicit in the way the presentation was structured, there was a clear comment after the FFXIII bit that the rest of the presentation would be exclusive to Xbox 360.

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:07:30 PM
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Overreacting lol

So let's see which games am I going to look forward to on the 360? 3?

It's still all 'bout the games. ps3 has like 7+ AAA titles coming out in the future. With 2 already out.

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vicious54
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:13:34 PM

Infamous FTW, can't wait for the UC2 Beta opening.

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JDC80
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:06:41 PM

I give the devil it's due Alan Wake is a good looking game and Xbox fans should be happy with that game when it comes out. But looking at line up the PS3 has coming I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

I think because how they presented the new features to Xbox live it got a lot of PS3 owners all worked up. Guys you had Twitter, access to movies and tv shows(oh by the way you can keep if you want) since last E3 and you had motion with the PS3 eye.

If Sony has a great showing tomorrow the same people going "oh dear god the sky is falling" after the Microsoft presentation will have their chest puffed out.






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Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:18:18 PM
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Quite shocked by how decent the Microsoft conference turned out, mainly in regards to their quite incredible XBL service. I think Sony really needs to up the ante on PSN because quite frankly it is embarrassing compared to Xbox Live.

PS3 owners are still waiting for cross-game chat and Microsoft keep piling in more and more features.

The Sky partnership gives Europe a Netflix equivalent finally, plus live Sports and although I don't use Twitter at all or Facebook much, I can imagine millions of people getting ALOT of use out of this.

To everyone saying to use the browser for Facebook, why would I want to use a clumsy browser when I could have it integrated into my OS?

Metal Gear seemed inevitable and the camera will only really impress me when I see it implemented into real games not just mini games, although nobody will convince me the PSEye is anywhere near that advanced.

I know this is a Playstation fan site but some people on here (Highlander) really need to give credit where it's due. Nobody expected anything from Microsoft and they presented a pretty strong conference, let's hope Sony can do the same or better tomorrow!

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JDC80
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:43:48 PM

The point remains those features are already on the PS3 from going to twitter, YouTube or any other social site.

I'm not saying Microsoft didn't have a good show but come on all they had as terms of exclusives another Halo game, Forza 3, Alan Wake, Splinter Cell, Crackdown 2, Metal Gear game that may or may not connections to the main story, One exclusive track from "Rockband: Beatles" and maybe exclusive maps for "Modern war 2" mixed in with features you can get off the PSN network and browser.

I'm willingly to bet once the buzz of E3 dies down Microsoft is going to back off on what "Project Natal" can do.

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HOODGE
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:23:39 PM

I totally agree with you're comment Sophist. With the way Microsoft integrated Facebook and twitter in their OS is far more easier, innovative, and in my opinion fun than using the web browser Sony offers and I might add is in need of some updating.

XBL just offers more of a sense of community in their dashboard than PSN.

Sony as I stated earlier, better start bringing out some of these features including Voice Messaging, In game voice chat (the text chat last update blows chunks), and on the fly game inviting to compete on a more level keel with Live.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 9:20:52 PM

You really don't read here very often do you? I'm very much an equal opportunity cynic. If Sony deserves a roasting they'll get it, if Microsoft does, they'll get it, if SquEnix does, I'll light up the coals. No favoritism here. I'll give credit where credit is due. If I remember correctly I recently quipped that SCEA has all the agility of a glacier - which they do. So, don't assume that because I pinpoint and lacerate Microsoft's failings I am somehow a Sony fanbois, I'm not. I'm a gamer, and that's all.

However, I have to say, if I see one more person use the following argument, I think I shall actually scream aloud.

"I think Sony really needs to up the ante on PSN because quite frankly it is embarrassing compared to Xbox Live.

PS3 owners are still waiting for cross-game chat and Microsoft keep piling in more and more features."

Guess what? The news is in, and the reviews have been done. Feature for feature, PSN and XBL are pretty much a wash, with the exception of Home on PSN for which Xbox Live has nothing comparable, and Cross Game chat, for which Sony/PSN has a half-way horrible solution.

See the thing is that Cross game chat seems bloody pointless in any game where the other players are gonna line you up in their sights and blow you to kingdom come. If you must talk to another friend while playing a video game, pick up a telephone. Want more than one friend? Make it a conference call. Honestly Cross game chat's supposed importance has been inflated to ludicrous proportions. It's a peripheral feature at best and certainly not a core function that creates a meaningful difference between XBL and PSN. It's one tick box out of many, that is all. So please, let's not peddle the myth that because PSN lacks Cross game voice chat (in the way that you want it) that PSN is somehow "embarrassing compared to XBL". That kind of statement is non-sense.

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HOODGE
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 10:48:02 PM

Hey Highlander do you own a 360? Sounds like no to me and that's cool. If you've never experienced cross game voice chat and the benefits of having it then don't sound like you know everything. It is a very useful feature and a lot of Microsoft customers including myself use it a lot. It is like a phone call in which you don't have to interuppt your game and use a real phone. Chill out. I love the feature.

Plus with PSN's god aweful way of hooking up with friends on some online titles and having to text message a bud on which room you're in so he can find you is dumb, irratating, and a waste of time.

So yes Live is better for the community experience and if you don't own a 360 and haven't experienced the awesomeness of getting around to communicate and hook up with your buds, you don't have much of a clue.

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tlpn99
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:23:23 PM
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I may get Crackdown 2 and the MGS game on the 360 thats it. Nothing else blew me away. Was kinda hoping maybe a new Gears of War 3 perhaps but prolly saving that for next year lol.

I have Sky downstairs I dont use my 360 cept for the exclusives so thats out.

Oh well good luck to Sony tomorrow, bring on the big boys, we got GOW3, Uncharted 2 etc :)

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Andysw
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:24:49 PM
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I was right p*ssed when the new metal gear solid game is not playstation 3 exclusive. Could've sell more playstation 3 units.

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Vivi_Gamer
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:33:49 PM
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Hahahaha the scandal!

Just remembewr there was the big boss image too

And in anycase doing a game on Raiden is rubbish, Unless its set inbetween MGS2-4 but even then its kind of pointless. If its after MGS4 that is just milking a fanchise, on the ending of MGS4 we see Raidens body has been recovered and he starts a life with his family, i dont want to hear aload of bullshit about him becoming the Ninja again after a tradegy.... That will not be on.

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sunspider13
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:41:16 PM
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Honestly to be fair I do go over to a friends house to see what's he has been playing on his 360 since the system came out. A handful of games I played through (GeoW 1 & 2, and a few others that escape me atm) and really again to be honest it was an enjoyable experience.

However that being said the 360, for me at least, doesn't have the amount of triple A titles that I would want to play. As for all the other bells and whistles on Xbl, I could care less, that's what I have a PC for.

As for Project Natal, meh...show me what it's able to do five years down the road then I might be interested.

I just can't get behind a company that left it's first console high and dry just to get the jump on the competition. I mean really...

Sorry for the rant, just had to speak my piece.

And finally on an unrelated note, I finally started playing Killzone 2 online because I'm on vacation for the next 3 weeks, so if anyone wants to pall up for some goodness my PSN id is sunspider13.

Thank you for your time.

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vicious54
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 4:57:44 PM
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Halo Reach(ing) for ideas to milk the franchise, sorry had to say it.

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Naga
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:03:13 PM
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Oh what a spectacularly horrible conference by Micro$oft.

That Natal thing sounds retarded a hit for the Halo fans.
How can I steer a car with body motion? it just doesn't feel right to do so if I'm taking a tight corner.

Look the games announced are underwhelming Halo I didn't really care about it.
Even Alan Wake which is basically the new Halo/Gears which is very unappealing to me.
Forza 3 will be alright the last game wasn't great but it's worth trying.

I was quite shocked with MGS: Rising seriously Raiden ?? that's a brilliant exclusive for the 360.

Overall it was disappointing wasn't that much original first party games that doesn't involve guns & war

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Ultimate_Balla
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:07:01 PM
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" Only two of the original 5 are still alive (sounds familiar to some Xbox 360 owners eh?)" Lmao. Anyway, GoodLuck With Sony Tomorrow, I Mean Today :) The Way Y'all Is Talkin', It Looks Like MS Did A Great Job.I'm Happy Gt5 Is Releasing Next Year, I Just Got GT4 And Man Do I Suck At It. Lol. Need Help. . .

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:46:58 PM

Glad you enjoyed the wee joke, I couldn't resist a few pokes.

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Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:08:57 PM
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@Highlander - Chill dude. MS's presentation was very impressive. That list you posted earlier is pretty damn good. That's not even including Mass Effect 2. I hope Sony blows us away tomorrow, but that damn tech demo with the boy was probably the most impressive thing I've ever seen (if it's real) in video games.

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Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:11:40 PM
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Damn the new MGS is exclusive? That makes it even worse, I hadn't read that up there.

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Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:18:14 PM
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http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/06-01-2009/0005036113&EDATE

Hey, maybe not. I dunno, looks like IGN may be wrong.

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Complex
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:21:22 PM
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Kojima's site is live


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Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:23:35 PM
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I'm really anxious to read what Ben has to say. Because Ben was really sure Sony would win hands-down :) Come on Ben! Keep us informed on your thoughts!

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:58:37 PM

Right, how has Microsoft won it?
That new MGS isn't even exclusive

Motion sensing = gimmick


E3 is all about games, and Sony rapes the competition in that regard.

Not to mention that the Sony conference hasn't even commenced.

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karneli lll
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:34:20 PM
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On a side note. Anyone know when the ucharted beta begins?

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Midris7
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 6:02:10 PM

June 3rd.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 5:37:36 PM
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Yeah, it's looking like it's not exclusive. G4 has said it isn't.

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Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 6:05:20 PM
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@Scare - You're wrong. It's not all about games. It's a combination of many things now. It's not 2001. It's about your online service, your multimedia services, your games, your exclusive games, your gadgets and about stealing exclusive games from each other.

That is why even if Sony shows some really good games tomorrow, if it doesn't have something that makes you say WOW, then MS wins.

If I (a loyal Sony customer) leave E3 with the thought of a freakin virtual boy who I can interact with as the stand out, then MS wins.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 9:25:17 PM

'loyal PS3' customers leave E3 knowing that they have rooms full of virtual people with whom to interact, we don't need artificial boys to play with, we have Home and rooms full of real people to interact with. You know?

With respect to the 'virtual boy' from Microsoft...How sad does one have to be to want to spend time with one's virtual boy? Play a game, watch a video, listen to some music, surf some frakin' porn for crying out loud, something, anything but a new super-di-duper version of Microsoft Bob.

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BeezleDrop
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 6:31:12 PM
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I guess I'll just stick with GT2 for my rally racing needs...........

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Oyashiro
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 6:36:56 PM
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Hmmm... I just don't think that the Natal will work the way they showed it. When he lifted his foot to show it off, his avatars arms wigged out and wrapped around its head. If that would happen during a real game I would be pissed. The Breakout like "Game" the girl was playing didn't make me go wow. The reason for the quotation marks is because all she did was wave her arms and legs around frantically and randomly. Did they really just knock Waggle motions when they just showed her doing that?

I also am pretty sure that Milo thing was completely scripted and we will probably never see it again. What they showed was AI that is way more advanced then that anyone has ever seen before. I just don't buy that it can recognize human expressions and voice as easily and flawlessly as they say it can.

I know I'm never going to play a game that completely uses the Natal. What will the lighting have to be to read your movements? what happens if someone says something during a game and Natal interprets it wrong and shuts off the 360? What if someone walks in front of the camera while your playing? I just don't see it working the way they showed it and promised it will. I'm not trying to rag on it just to rag on it, I'm just a realist.

The only real thing that has me excited was the Metal Gear announcement and that's not exclusive.

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:11:05 PM

It's just a gimmick

Just like Nintendo's controller

Nintendo presented its controller like it was heaven's gift to mankind



And look at the result...

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 6:57:46 PM
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MS did have a lot of good games.

"Alan Wait (oops - Wake), Halo Reach, ODST, Forz3, Left 4 Dead Again (sorry I meant 2), Splinter Cell, Crackdown 2, Joyride and Shadow Complex"

I'm sorry, but that's a damn good line up.

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:12:44 PM

Are you serious?

Your standards are very low

The only good thing I see there is Alan Wake and Splinter Cell

Halo has been milked to death already

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:28:40 PM

Oh please, it's not about what you and I like. I have never even played most of those games. But I know of them, and I know how they've been reviewed in the past. Who cares if you don't like Halo, it's gonna sell. And those sales is what matters in this console war.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:28:46 PM

Oh please, it's not about what you and I like. I have never even played most of those games. But I know of them, and I know how they've been reviewed in the past. Who cares if you don't like Halo, it's gonna sell. And those sales is what matters in this console war.

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HOODGE
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:49:19 PM

YA stick, but those games do pale in comparison to the Exclusives Sony has in store for E3. Like I said a few days ago if sony only had GOW3 to show, that game alone will and does blow away any game announced in the Microsoft press conference.

And when it comes down to the main point, gaming is the central point on all these consoles. And so when it comes down to hardware and software, Sony really does and will win the battle in the end.

Sony is known for triple A titles and this years lineup is a major kick in the nuts for Microsoft.

Microsofts defense is they really have deep pockets and wanna buy every major exclusive Sony has to bury them. Unfortunately for Sony tho with Kojima Productions now on Microsofts platform and Square Enix as well, everyone must admit that those two exclusives are HUGE.

Plus it makes you wonder for next E3 which exclusive Microsoft will steal again. Money speaks and when it comes to money, no company is loyal. Sony better buy some of these developer companies, cause if they don't Microsoft will.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 9:26:46 PM

I'm glad you like that line up. To me it seems very heavy on action and little else, and contains nothing much that really pushes the platform. As you say, it's all opinion.

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kratos17
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:22:33 PM
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i watched the microsoft presetation but from what ive seen it wasnt as groundbreaking as some of you are implying

i was expecting some damn good announcements but what was shown the usuall hype and never deliver

this is no different from there previous shows,
every year there show isnt spectacular but exceptible

i wanted to see a sh** load of games but we got more halo a second crackdown and left 4 dead

forza can never compete with gran turismo
and alan wake is obviously a look-a-like of heavy rain

basically nothing we didnt know about

the only thing shocking was metal gear on 360,
i think kojima will do what square enix did

everyone needs the extra bucks in this generation

honestly i can say it was a good show but, lets be serious it shouldnt take much to top it

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Tha_Joker_186
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:28:43 PM
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Hmm, nice conference by microsoft once again, i have to give them props for that, it was pretty good conference, but the only thing that makes me angry with them is that they always have to STEAL an exclusive from the PS3 because they have nothing original in their minds.

Seriously they should be more innovative, all they are doing is just taking an old franchise and just paying Few million bucks and making it exclusive, timed-exclusive, or just multi-platform. Man but that did disappoint me when Kojima walked up and tapped that dude on the shoulder...Why Kojima why...
he just turned on all the MGS fans that bought the PS3 and the MGS4. WHY FU**ING RELEASE TO A CONSOLE WHERE THERE IS NO INSTALL BASE OF THAT FRANCHISE...I am not buying a 360 just to get that game, that is just stupid.

I thought Kojima had some honour but i guess when it comes to M$ money no one can stand it i guess...

P.S. Looking forward to what PS3 has tomorrow, I hope they don't waste a whole show on how great the PSP Go! is, seriously they better have something that would blow the MS conference out of the water...

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Oyashiro
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:34:15 PM

It's not exclusive to the 360, it will also be on the PS3.

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karneli lll
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:11:57 PM

Dont blame Kojima, his bosses sold out, he had to accept ms.

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questing222
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:32:12 PM
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Scarecrow, you're definately right.
Halo has been milked to death. I hate where games have too many sequels!

Anyone know when the 10th Metal Gear and the 13th final fantasy games are coming out???

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kratos17
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:34:10 PM
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also at the conference no one said anything about the new metal gear being exclusive

if it was dont you think microsoft would be rubbing it in our faces

there is a 90% chance that it is also on ps3
(IMO)

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Oyashiro
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:37:13 PM

The MS press release confirmed its not exclusive. They did say something like its lunching on the 360, so they may have payed for timed exclusivity. But it will be coming to the PS3 as well.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:38:34 PM

It isn't exclusive. It's on the PS3 as well.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:34:54 PM
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They're gonna waste a bunch of time on the PSP Go! I really don't care. I already have a PSP with discs, and I am not buying another one that does the same thing and isn't gonna play my library.

And they are gonna waste some time on the PS2 as well. Showing all the WWE, Madden and other games that real gamers don't care about on the PS2 (cause anyone who really cares about games plays them on a PS3 or 360).

Then they're gonna show good games for the PS3, but I really don't see Sony blowing us away. Everyone said just WAIT for Sony's conference last year, being sure that Sony would do something to counter FF13, and then after, we were like... THAT'S IT?! All they did was show a video of MAG that didn't show gameplay.

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:44:45 PM

It's good to know that you work at Sony and have all this information.

Mind telling us more?

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:46:14 PM

It's okay to be scared. :)

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:05:39 PM

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JDC80
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:48:18 PM

With the PS2 still selling and the PSP finally catching on do you blame Sony for wanting to show them off? I think Sony is going to show some top notch first party stuff to show people that unlike a certain company they don't need to show off third party multi platform stuff and hope someone believes it's just a PS3 exclusive.

Since the news that this new MGS game isn't going to be an exclusive for the 360 what did Microsoft win? I guess they want their fanboys to say we got Metal Gear Solid too so ha ha.

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Gogaku
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:49:01 PM
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About the MGS to the 360, first of all this is not an official new MGS installment, it's some type of spin off. Second, MGS 2 and 3 also came out on the Xbox and GC, meaning, Kojima's loyalty to the Playstation brand hasn't really been that great to start with. He did MGS 4 exclusive because (his own words) it couldn't be made on the 360, which probably will be the case with a fifth installment if that ever gets made as well (as long as a predecessor to the 360 hasn't come out).
Third, this spin off is not a 360 exclusive, so who really cares?
About the rest of the MS pressconference, Project Natal looked interesting if in case it works as well as it looked on the presentation, which i highly doubt. I'm sure Sony will present something similar tomorrow actually, something that probably will be even cooler, I'm smelling head tracking coming!!

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Oyashiro
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:57:11 PM

I'm guessing you meant MGS1 and MGS2, MGS3 was only on PS2.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:53:46 PM
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That's what everyone thought last year after MS's conference. And it didn't happen. We know Sony too well, they aren't that cool. They do things very slowly.

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Oxvial
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:58:17 PM

hahaha don't trow the towel that fast! come on dude wait just a few hours more Sony can still make it good.

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HOODGE
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 9:02:57 PM

Stick unless you're another Microsoft Fanboy in here to stur the pot up. STFU k? I agree with you on some of your comments earlier, but lets not predict what will happen tomorrow at Sony's conference.

Sony isn't stupid to not know what they have to do to compete. They have won every previous generation hands down and continue to do well with the PS2 and PSP. Think about those businesses as well. ChuChing. And on top of that they put out quality hardware. Hell i've never had to replace any of my systems. I'm on my 4th 360. What a joke. Wouldn't be suprised if Natal lasts a year and chokes.

That said lets not forget about tomorrow and the kick ass games Sony will show. And maybe, just maybe you might turn your tune after seeing their conference. So enough claiming doom and gloom for Sony please.

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Oxvial
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 7:53:48 PM
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LOL Milo gonna be a must-have of pedos.

but this Nathan project looks like a direct challenge to the Wii I wonder if Nintendo gonna have something to counter that.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:01:37 PM

Dude, that's exactly what my girlfriend said!!! Hahahaha!

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:05:31 PM
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Wow, if you're really impressed with Microsoft's presser, then it must take very little to impress you at all. All I see is more misguided people giving more money to a company that doesn't give a damn about making quality products. I guess we can expect to see the hardcore 360 gamers buying Milo and Project Natal on Day One because if they don't, their hip quotient will suffer. Believe me that when it comes to 360 culture, teenage boys trying to impress other teenage boys with their hip quotient is paramount.

I wonder if Milo and Project Natal will be built to Microsoft's "high" standards...

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:12:21 PM
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@brighat - Oh please. Different things appeal to different people. Someone could be impressed by Madden, and I could give a s*it less because I don't play it. It doesn't mean Madden is a bad game.

The conference was enjoyable and showed off some good games, and had good low-blow suprises. That's exactly what's gonna win E3.

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:21:02 PM

Games will win E3

Microsoft's game-exclusive line-up is nothing to be impressed about.

It was good, not really shocking at all.

Halo we knew of, Alan Wake has been around for years. And the usual Splinter Cell and Forza.

Weak

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Oxvial
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:27:17 PM

I find more shocking to see Kojima here(I hope to see him tomorrow again) like they wanted to do a FFXIII reaction again but it lacked more impact.

Alan Wake gonna be great but still I can play it on pc the line up was good but the best on my interest was Metal Gear and I still can play it on ps3.

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:27:05 PM
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Keep telling yourself that. Whoever has the biggest buzz after E3 is who won it.


GT5 = already has a huge demo in Prologue
GOW3 = Got revealed last year and we have seen gameplay
Uncharted 2 - The beta is just around the corner
Heavy Rain - The new footage came out last week
Ratchet - We've already seen it this generation
MAG - All the previews came out a week ago.

But who knows. Maybe Sony has a new game that will blow us away. And maybe Trico will look 100X better than the year-old trailer we saw.

Sony has a chance, but it does need something big. Or a lot of smaller things that add up to a great experience.

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Scarecrow
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:39:32 PM

If it's all 'bout NEW titles we didn't know 'bout then Microsoft only has 2(Milo and Natal(sp?)

So you're proud of 2 new (never heard of) exclusives?

Congrats

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Oxvial
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:50:48 PM

smaller things...

US and Europe dates for the Yakuza games .

Twisted Metal .

Last Remnant also a PS3 Star Ocean version release dates .

Metal Gear Solid Op 2.

BC return via Firmware.



Big Blow.

Metal Gear Solid 5 exclusive for ps3.

FFVII Remake.

all the current ps3 models get a 99.99 price cut.

those are ones that I would like to see tomorrow.



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Juanalf
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 8:54:45 PM

I have a hard time believing that you don't own a 360.

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HOODGE
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 9:13:34 PM

Ya Stick and every game that Microsoft showed at the conference we also heard of before. Nothing new except Natal and Milo. Big deal.

Has the world heard about team ico's project? Heavy rain might be known now, but that is a new IP never before played. Last year another new IP came out called LBP.

You see other than Alan Wake and Natal Microsoft had no new IP. They just buy it and thats it. They love to steal from Sony and you need to understand that. Enough said.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 9:14:31 PM
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I didn't know this would turn into the MS conference thread. It's ALL off-topic as much as we like Comments. In the future, please keep this stuff in the forums, okay?

Also, Stickemup: you really do seem to be searching for ways to be negative in regards to Sony. Every last one of us knows it's all about software, and it doesn't matter if the announcements are "surprising." Just because we already know about the likes of GoWIII, Uncharted 2, etc., doesn't mean it automatically fails in comparison to Microsoft's surprises. Take the two lineups at face value. Compare as such. ...you can't honestly say the PS3 exclusives are playing second fiddle to MS's, can you? Honestly?

I don't mind questioning. I really don't. But what you're doing is borderline...borderline looking for a fight, and borderline complaining.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 9:29:05 PM

Ah, wish I'd read from the bottom up, then I'd have got to this first instead of banging of a few replies.

Sorry Ben.

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Oxvial
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 9:35:06 PM

Well I never posted on the forums XD..but yeah sorry Ben.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 9:51:43 PM

No worries. It's just that we can always use more discussion in the forums, so everyone should feel free to go in there with this kind of thing.

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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 10:05:03 PM

Well, I made sure I'm fully signed up for next time I have the urge to derail a thread... :D

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Deleted User
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 10:13:27 PM
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No one really reads the forums though. I didn't say that Ben, someone else before me commented about all the games MS is brinnging out we already knew about. That is a stupid comment, I was just showing that all the PS3 games were too.

Trust me guys, I want Sony to win E3 as much as you.

But sadly if Sony doesn't have something new that's shocking, the masses will say that MS won E3. Just look at everyone on G4. And I'm not just talking about Sessler and Megan. Even the people they interview.



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Highlander
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 10:20:14 PM

Indeed. Besides, robust discussion is just that. Hopefully we can all discuss, perhaps even argue, without bearing a grudge? I can. Mostle. Except for SquEnix of course....LOL!

G4TV - ah yes, Microsoft could have freeze-dried an elephant turd, polished it up, engrave a Halo on it and that crowd would still consider it a triumph in the gaming world.
</deeply cynical mode>

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 10:20:20 PM

Uh...that's easy to do when Sony hasn't even had their press conference yet.

Bottom line: nothing in MS's press conference shows me they have a better software lineup than Sony, and that's all that matters.

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HOODGE
Monday, June 01, 2009 @ 10:58:40 PM

Enough said Stick. So leave it at that and let's wait to see what Sony got in store. No more worrying. Just put it to rest please

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JDC80
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 @ 12:10:45 AM
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Speaking of G4, I remember how Adam and Morgan take offense when PS3 fans accused them of being brought and paid for by Microsoft that pre-Xbox conference didn't help their cause. I admit I didn't see the whole post Xbox show but that pre conference when it was just Adam, Morgan and Kevin was just a Xbox love fest.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 @ 1:32:39 AM

You should know by now that g4 and gamestop are 'unofficially' ps3 haters, best to let them be and get your ps3 needs and news elsewhere (like here for instance).

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karneli lll
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 @ 1:36:17 AM
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Ok, ms conference aside, i think mass effect 2 will make an appearance on Sony's side; notice how it was missing from the 360's list of exclusives? (and lost planet 2 as well)

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dveisalive
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 @ 5:01:07 AM
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GT5 > Forza whatever, Anyways GT5 will sell millions PERIOD!

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Xanavi23
Tuesday, June 02, 2009 @ 1:48:45 PM
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I hate to say i told you so guys but I TOLD YOU SO. I want GT5FUll in 2009 more than anybody on this site save maybe for Daus and Scarecrow but its not happening.

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