Metal Gear Solid: Rising Won't Use Engine From MGS4

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

As most of you know by now, Metal Gear Solid: Rising will feature Raiden and will be more action-oriented than past entries in the franchise.

So perhaps you won't be surprised to learn that Kojima Productions won't be using the engine they utilized in last year's masterpiece, Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots. Instead, according to Examiner.com, the team plans to build a multiplatform engine from scratch that will support the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC. They also go on to say that despite the claim of Sony fans that such a multiplatform project wouldn't be as impressive as an exclusive title, they will sacrifice no quality in the making of Rising. In fact, they say this new title will look even better than MGS4, so that's good news. Thing is, while we still believe Kojima could excel on the PS3, we also know that as a master and a perfectionist, he'd never put his name on something he wasn't proud of. He may only be producing Rising but it still carries his name, so we seriously doubt this new MGS will be anything less than stellar...even if it does play more like a DMC.

We'll bring you more on Metal Gear Solid: Rising as it becomes available, but we have to remember that Kojima said we wouldn't see more official unveilings until next year's E3.

Related Game(s): Metal Gear Solid: Rising

6/12/2009 Ben Dutka

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SarahPalinMILF
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 9:59:46 PM
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I'm embarrassed for this game...I just wish it would be erased from existence so us true fans could get some MGS5 goodness on...

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Scarecrow
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 10:44:49 PM

Raiden is a failure as a main character

I've said it before and I'll stick with it

He's one of those flashy characters who are good sidekicks, but only that.

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Akuma07
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 4:18:10 AM

HAHA. Raidan the sidekick. you gotta feel for him but, he was ment to be the replacement for one of the greatest hero's in existance.

hey maybe they should release a spin-off game.
'Metal Gear Solid Rising Exsistance'

and it could be about Snake running around ruining everything that happens in rising =D

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Wage SLAVES
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 5:24:44 AM

Woah, Blasphemy I say! I don't care if they get it!

Raiden was Amazing in MGS4 and I'd like to see things from his view. Though I will miss Snake this is gonna be Great!

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Scarecrow
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 10:17:16 PM
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Mmmmmm!

Just savored the intro of MGS4 again!
Yes! It's its one year Anniversary!

Wow, what a game!

Hideo Kojima is a god
Plain and simple, a perfectionist and awesome guy

This move of making a 360 MGS is definitely purely on Konami

So yes, good news!

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Bo0mKiiD
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 10:51:56 PM

"Hideo Kojima is a god
Plain and simple, a perfectionist and awesome guy"

Obsessed much?

Last edited by Bo0mKiiD on 6/12/2009 10:52:35 PM

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Scarecrow
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 11:13:05 PM

No

Appreciation

Obssesion =

-visiting Konami.com to read anything 'bout him
-Getting a tattoo related to him
-Knowing every little detail 'bout him

^So no

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sticklife
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 1:25:43 AM

In all fairness i got that tat removed...

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fatelementality
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 9:35:07 AM

HEY!!!!!!!

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Bo0mKiiD
Sunday, June 14, 2009 @ 1:39:54 AM

Scarecrow i'm sorry but you called the man a god and perfectionist, have you seen him in bed? Appreciation is complimenting his work not his very being.

p.s
"-visiting Konami.com to read anything 'bout him
-Getting a tattoo related to him
-Knowing every little detail 'bout him"

Who really knows what you do on your spare time. Just spend every moment feeding him grapes.

Last edited by Bo0mKiiD on 6/14/2009 1:41:34 AM

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Scarecrow
Sunday, June 14, 2009 @ 1:24:49 PM

Hey Kid, cut it out

YOU'RE the one who sounds obsessed over me.

"OMG Kojima can't be a god, omg omg omg"

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Bo0mKiiD
Sunday, June 14, 2009 @ 9:25:06 PM

Hey i'm bored because there are no new articles to read. No hard feelings though. Kojima isn't perfect, his teeth are fugly.

I'm not a kid, I was born in 1909 thank you very much.

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King James
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 10:28:26 PM
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Wow it has been a year since MGS4. Or as I like to call it: "The moment PS3 owners stopped caring about what M$ and the 360 owners were saying."

I doubt MGS: Rising will look better that MGS4. I think it will look equal but you never know. Those Kojima boys sure are talented. I can't wait to see how this game is gonna shape up.

Last edited by King James on 6/12/2009 10:29:11 PM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 10:35:30 PM
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Well to be fair I wouldn't expect it to "look" worse but it definitely is going to have to play differently. We'll see if xbots complain about it being like watching a movie. But seriously, the MS announcement of it a year before any real info is due has a certain stink to it, and the fact that it's a spinoff (and other Kojima statements besides) has me thinking the whole project was mainly to satiate certain 360 fans. MGS5, if it ever exists, will probably remain PS3 exclusive.

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Qubex
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 1:49:41 AM

I don't necessarily think so WorldEndsWithMe... what intrigues me is the way they will re-build the engine from the ground up and increase quality over MGS4. What gives me hope is CodeMasters' Ego Engine version 3. This looks stunning across all platforms and it is multi-platform.

I think the big difference is that the PS3 version will come on 1 disc, whilst the 360 will have to be multi-disc; unless the idea that the Raiden game will now be more "action" based could imply short FMV's and more emphasis on getting on with the missions at hand, all crammed together in 9gigs of space...

Let us note that graphics wise both PS3 and 360 can comfortably pump out 1080p graphics as standard... the 360's graphics chip set is actually very good... but in our world, the combination of Cell/Rsx can render better results if push comes to shove...

Q!

"i am home"

Last edited by Qubex on 6/13/2009 1:54:10 AM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 2:57:06 AM

I'm not sure what you don't agree with, I did say I would NOT expect it to look worse, meaning I know that both systems can make very shiny games.

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Qubex
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 10:45:55 AM

You are correct there WorldEndsWithMe... I read your first line wrong... so basically, yhea, I agree with your initial response... both should look good I think!

Q!

"i am home"

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Bo0mKiiD
Sunday, June 14, 2009 @ 10:17:45 AM

There's probably gonna be exclusive content for the PS3 version.

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SkantDragon
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 10:42:19 PM
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Option #1: Rising will be higher quality on the PS3 than the 360 version.

Option #2: Rising will be gimped to look the same on both consoles.

There are no other possibilities.

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therabbitkinge
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 11:07:30 PM
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Raiden stopped a f***king warship with his back and a sword...nuff said, if he isn't that freaking awesome in the "rising" spin-off im not even looking twice. (Well I mean technically he was almost crushed to death by the warship but damned if he wasn't close).

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Scarecrow
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 11:13:47 PM

Again, he's a great sidekick

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Akuma07
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 4:24:54 AM

HAY!

Young Snake would have just needed to point his gun at the ship and say "freeze!"

=]

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shadowpal2
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 11:31:46 PM
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WOW really...hmm...it'll look even better than MGS 4 huh? Well I guess you'll be trying to fill that blu-ray disk up again as Kojima-sama once did. (Even though he mainly was trying to put uncompressed audio on there for AMAZING EAR-BLEEDING AUDIO QUALITY)

...so can we expect a 6-disk set for the Xbox 360 version?

Anyway...I'm still sticking with the true MGS 5 - PEACE WALKER...directed, written, and designed by the father of MGS himself...Kojima-sama.

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Victor321
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 11:39:07 PM
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Hey, I don't mind if you guys bash the game, don't bash Raiden and who he is as a character; if you loved Snake as a character, then you should be welcome to his friends also.

P.S. I am not endorsing or emphasizing my opinion through my wallpaper, it's merely coincidence.

Last edited by Victor321 on 6/12/2009 11:40:03 PM

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Oxvial
Friday, June 12, 2009 @ 11:48:56 PM
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team plans to build a multiplatform engine from scratch that will support the PlayStation 3(good), Xbox 360(ouch!) and PC(good).

game going to get toned down .

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Akuma07
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 4:19:38 AM

aye.

how can you make one single engine, that supports all 3 at the same time.

you got.
PC: 5 stars
PS3: 4 1/2 stars
360: 3 stars

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Alienange
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 1:04:20 AM
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My guess is it'll be Devil May Cry with Raiden. That's the only thing that will look good and fit on a dvd. The fact that Kojima is only producing the game goes to show it'll be a no brainer slapped together romp.

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King James
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 9:28:45 PM

You should have faith in Kojima's Team like Kojima -san himself does. He's not a one-man band man, you know. He has a team. A damn good one at that.

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Dustinwp
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 1:52:51 AM
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Better than MGS4? Excuse me for being pessimistic, but Without Kojima son? Oh please! Now their starting to talk out their a**.

Last edited by Dustinwp on 6/13/2009 1:55:57 AM

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therabbitkinge
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 2:02:42 AM
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Oh god lets hope it doesn't turn into the last game that had a cool sidekick spin-off..."final fantasy dirge of cerberus" everyone though vincent was cool to...oh how wrong we were, lets just hope histories "sidekicks" have a better future on th PS3.

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JoshBall
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 3:30:51 AM
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Hmmmm i really like the idea of Raiden as a main character, ALTHOUGH, i don't like the idea of little or NO stealth, i mean an mgs without stealth?! Why even try it!?

If they ruin it's name it will really annoy me, i may even buy a PSP to get peace walker hmmmm

And to whoever said that guy was obsessed with Kojima because he was saying how great it was, are you on the same planet as the rest of us?! He really is a genious haha

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dfoz3
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 11:15:39 AM

At the end of the announcement, they payed the usual 360 jingle but instead of the screen reading Jump In, it read Sneak In. This makes me think that it will at least have stealth elements.

I look at it like this. Ninja, Stealth, Action, MGS...

It will be good even if it is a change in direction. This gen's Ninja Gaidens and Tenchus have been utter dissappointments to me. This game might finally be the stealth/action ninja game of this generation and best of all it takes place in the MGS universe. I can't wait!

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shaydey77
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 5:15:20 AM
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I hope they dont go DMC with this franchise...but then again xbox does make every game sh** these days...

Would they ever go ahead and release the next pathetic attempt of a console only with the ability to push games to at least the limit of the Ps3 for both gaming audiences sanity??

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AceTatsujin
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 7:31:28 AM
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I'm buying this game only for Raiden. I'm sure the game is gonna suck like hell since it is going to be multi. But really, whatever. Kojima needs to stop making this damn games, BRING US ZONE OF THE ENDERS 3! What the hell, how long do we have to wait?!

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Banky A
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 8:08:03 AM

Untill Jehuty finishes his upgrades and healing, which will have Zero-Shift as a default.

And when Konami thinks up another Egyptian villian ^_^

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LegendaryWolfeh
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 11:38:43 PM

Agreed, also good to see you posting again Ace =) , and I'm sure they could just use Osiris or something, even though he's not a villian...

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Deleted User
Monday, June 15, 2009 @ 9:05:59 AM

Man I guess MGS and MGS2 are both crappy because they were on multipul platforms as well... what you speak is pure fanboy

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Dingodial
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 9:42:10 AM
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Just because MGS5 may look better than MGS4 doesn't mean that it wouldn't look even better it it were a PS3 exclusive. Kojima can't deny that!

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Dustinwp
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 10:41:36 AM
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It probably will look better! Unfortunately it will only be three to four hours long:(

Last edited by Dustinwp on 6/13/2009 10:42:46 AM

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SSRGohan
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 11:20:17 AM
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can't wait to play as Raiden

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Jalex
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 11:30:39 AM
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I may be a 'Metal Gear' fanboy, and I have to have anything with that name on it, but I'm surprised at how many people have turned their backs on what they once claimed would make for great fun:
The chance to play as Raiden the cyborg ninja. Obviously, enthusiasm waned when the game was announced as a non-exclusive and Kojima's involvement much less than any fan would have wanted, but the idea still genuinely intrigues me and I would think would still intrigue anyone who was sincere about wanting to play as Raiden from the beginning.

So whenever it does come out, day one purchase for me, guaranteed. And I'm not even a big fan of 'Devil May Cry'-type games.

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JackKnifeZero
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 11:51:01 AM
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I must say though...I love when companies build their own game engines instead of using pre-existing tech. I feel that it makes the game unique and helps it to stand out more. I don't know if it will have that effect on this title but I'm at least a bit more intrigued now.

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TheSixPaths
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 12:24:41 PM
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"Anyway...I'm still sticking with the true MGS 5 - PEACE WALKER...directed, written, and designed by the father of MGS himself...Kojima-sama. "

They should've made ths on the ps3 screw the psp

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JoshBall
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 3:02:43 PM

Yeahh so true, although it is good to bring some good stuff to the psp, on the other hand it's making me buy one because of MGS, GT, LBP and Jak haha! danggg i need money!

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b3mike
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 7:29:25 PM

No kidding, one analog stick is not enough for the complexity of MGS controls. I bought portable ops to complete my collection but the game is very frustrating due to the controls. I just gave up on it since none of the control settings worked for me at all

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Ogibillm
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 12:26:57 PM
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i'm optimistic. i remember playing as the ninja in metal gear solid: vr missions. that was a lot of fun.

damn i wish i still had that game

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Jawknee
Saturday, June 13, 2009 @ 7:48:36 PM
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Meh..I'm sure the game won't be terrible. But I'm staying reserved. My least favorite MGS was Son's of Liberty and it was because you got a small taste of Solid Snake and were forced to use Raiden the rest of the game. The whole time I was waiting to take control of Snake again but that time never came. I was annoyed that I was forced to use this douchebag the whole time.

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orangpelupa
Sunday, June 14, 2009 @ 1:42:21 AM
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i just hope the PC version will be a good port. MGS2 was on PC, but its not really a good port :(

btw if MGSR story is after MGS4, it will be OK or ps3 owners who have played MGS4. But is't its make Xbox 360 and PC players confused?

they have not played MGS4.

Last edited by orangpelupa on 6/14/2009 1:43:50 AM

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Jawknee
Sunday, June 14, 2009 @ 3:58:52 AM

I'd be surprised if it takes place after 5 In the time line. kojima has never really released any Metal Gear Solids in chronological order.

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redruM
Sunday, June 14, 2009 @ 4:50:16 PM
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meh..why should xblox owners get it lol

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Bottlecap
Sunday, June 14, 2009 @ 6:08:59 PM
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See when things go multi we have to fix things that arnt broken.
(changing perfection)

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tanner1
Monday, June 15, 2009 @ 6:34:35 AM
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Of course it wont use the MGS4 engine, do u honestly think that the xbox could run it? Maybe a watered down version

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Deleted User
Monday, June 15, 2009 @ 9:02:41 AM

No... it's the same reason that Ninja Gaiden 2 has a new engine... the engine used for the 360 version was build especially for the system and the MGS4 engine is the same.

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