No Face-Button Punching For Fight Night, Might Come As DLC

This is an interesting topic of conversation, primarily because it seems to split the gaming crowd directly down the middle.

As some of you know, several sports games make full use of the analog control on the Dual Shock 3 (and on past Sony controllers). They basically ignore the face buttons and focus on the analog sticks for any important maneuvers; take Tiger Woods PGA Tour, for example, where you swing by pulling back and pushing forward on the analog. Personally, I've always hated this mechanic, as I've never found it to be as pinpoint accurate as simply pressing a button at the correct time (ala Hot Shots Golf). The analogs simply aren't as perfectly accurate and in my mind, it doesn't make anything "more realistic." But some people still like it, and this is why EA retains this model for the Fight Night series, and it's going to stay that way for the fourth installment. EA's Brian Hayes addressed this very issue over at IGN's blog; he said:

"No, there is no such option for face button punching in the final version, but we are investigating providing the option via DLC."

He does say they have a "dedicated team" for downloadable content, which must mean they have a significant amount of content planned. From our point of view, we could really use that face-button control scheme; I personally know several people who just won't buy a Fight Night title because of the analog-only setup. But they love boxing, so if the face-button option showed up, they'd probably buy it. Just do it, EA.

Related Game(s): Fight Night Round 4

6/16/2009 Ben Dutka

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Cpt_Geez
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 11:03:45 AM
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I'm actually buying fight night round 4 because of the use of a analog stick. For some reason II find it easier to use, but EA should have made it a option to use the face buttons also.

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Gregory Freeman
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 4:28:16 PM

i can see it now...

"The ability to button mash like all the Soul Calibur Newbs has arrived!!! for the ultra low cost of $9.95"

it should be just a patch, or at most a free DLC, but if EA slaps a tag on it and calls it wallet worthy, then thats dumb..

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chilker
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 11:05:30 AM
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Really? I find the idea that people didn't like the analog controls fascinating. I loved the analog controls for Fight Night Round 3. I thought I had read somewhere that Round 4 was going to take away some of the complexities of the controls for Round 3, which almost made me not want to get it.
I'm glad to hear they're keeping it, and I think it's good that they're considering adding face buttons, too, since more people will play it. But I really did like all the possibilities that came with all the ways you could move the analog sticks.
What don't you like about it? I thought it fit really well in Fight Night. With golf, though, I can see how that would be annoying.

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G-WiZ199
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 11:07:23 AM
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Im the only one among my group of friends that thinks Fight Night should be analog only. It becomes all out button mashing if you use the face buttons and its no fun. I've played the demo for Fight Night 4 and the analog controls are easier and way smoother then previous entries. But if they do allow face button punching...at least make those punches significantly weaker compared to the analog stick.

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Cpt_Geez
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 1:04:07 PM

Yupp the controls are smoother and easier, it was the selling point for me.

Last edited by Cpt_Geez on 6/16/2009 1:05:07 PM

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slugga_status
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 11:13:19 AM
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I agree with you fellas. I've played and have every fight night and the analog controls got better every year. Also, in Round 3 during loading it even tells you that button-mashing does not allow you to punch with full strength as you would with the analog.

The analog controls make it more fluid easier and realistic instead of just mashing away. I thought the analog was an awesome addition to tiger woods..Anyway people who want to use the buttons are the ones who didn't want or won't take the time to learn the analog controls. I had a friend like that and once he actually took his time to learn he noticed it was easier.

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Kiengo
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 11:22:07 AM
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Absolutely ridiculous. Why would they not allow you to play the way you want? And if it's DLC, it had better be free. Making you pay to use your controller should get somebody fired.

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slugga_status
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 11:35:47 AM
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Umm b/c it's their game Kiengo. If you don't like it don't buy it. But my theory is that did this for a good reason. If you ever played round 3 online you're destined to come across a few players who get wins by just mashing the jab and cross button the entire time. They parry you and mash which over a few rounds depletes your health and you get knocked out.

Thats my theory of why they did it even though I never complained about it. I just got better and learned how to beat players like that. If they do bring it back it will just as before. You mash the buttons you don't throw at full strength just as in Round 3. Only thing I have to get used to is the body punching as far as throwing hooks and uppercuts without holding L1 anymore. Different but I like it. Helps you pull of combos better and mix up your punches easier.

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Prevent
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 12:07:34 PM

They're not just suppose to make games the way they want to just because it's their game, they're suppose to make a game to suit the fans and make everyone happy.

You just can't take out a control scheme as a option just because they are some people online that smash the X button all day.

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 11:44:21 AM
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I dont know how much more realistic the analogs would make the game in boxing, but it definitely does in Tiger. I am glad they are doing this for Fight Night though, and I might actually play online now since the button mashers will actually have to learn how to play the game.

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King James
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 12:01:51 PM
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I'm glad that they took out. It keeps the button-mashers outta the game.

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brighat1971
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 12:19:48 PM
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I prefer using the sticks for Fight Night. It just makes more sense. However, if I only owned an Xbox 360, I'd probably wait for the face button DLC. Honestly, those sticks might be a tad better than the DS3's but those dumb idents hurt my thumbs a lot when playing FNR3. The PS3 doesn't have those so my thumbs should be fine for long sessions of FNR4.

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slugga_status
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 12:33:43 PM
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Prevent - Most games are made how the developers want to make them. It is up to the consumer to determine whether they like it or not. For example, Killzone 2 was made how they wanted it to be made. So EA can do as they wish with Fight Night if that's how they want to potray their game.

When was the last time a developer said "Hey fans tell us what you want and we'll make it." Almost never. They try to implement or make changes from feedback. There are several games out there that you can't change the control scheme. So I say if you don't like it don't buy it.

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jaybiv
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 1:16:25 PM
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This is a rare time that I will agree with EA. This game is made perfectly for the analog controls. Button mashing is the reason I don't play many fighter anymore. It takes the fun out of the game. Just like many other innovations in video games, gamers have to get used to it. Take Madden for example, when it first came to the PS3, I didn't like the button setup and would always remap the controls until I read an article where the developer explained the logic is the new setup. It took a while, but I was able to function again with the new setup.

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PSN _HAITIAN_JB
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 1:40:47 PM
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No buttons no buy option always option can't take it off cause of x button cry babies

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SneakyBeaver
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 2:54:15 PM

Wha??

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 2:19:15 PM
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lots of analog lovers, never played fight night, but I'm with Ben for most of the games that use it. Maybe it's because I grew up old school and when you hit the stick to the left you hit it ALL the way no matter what you plan on doing.

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tes37
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 4:38:58 PM

I played the demo. First time playing any fight night game and I was kinda surprised by the analog sticks being the way to throw punches. I was expecting to use the buttons. I think buttons would be better too, although I'm not knocking the game.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 6:18:25 PM

I remember this one Jet Li game where you used the stick to attack and I just couldn't hang with it.

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slugga_status
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 2:45:21 PM
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Honestly it's a game by game situation. Since they first began the Fight Night series it was always meant for analog usage. That was the innovation for the game. It was never meant for buttons. If people want to cry about taking the buttons away I suggest to learn and accept the analog. Or go jump in line with the cry babies who refuse to play KZ2 bc it's not COD.

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Dimelo
Wednesday, June 24, 2009 @ 5:31:40 AM

I'm not buying FN4 without the buttons... Personally I think the anolog stick its retarted for throwing punches. I played the demo at a friends house but didn't even bother to download it myself... because I find and always have found the dam stick annoying. Even if they put the buttons in now... I feel they are going to do something to disconvinient the button players. No FN4 for me... I guess I'll be getting that UFC game after all.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 2:55:50 PM
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I'm usually a button masher, but I downloaded the demo & was surprised that I actually enjoyed the sticks much better than I would've had it been buttons only.

The only major drawback I encountered was that it's making me buy another DS3, cause I got so fast & furious with my punching that I ripped the rubber cover right off my R/side stick.
Damn, I think I'll need to start taking a Valium or two before I fight, cause I can't afford to keep buying new controllers every other week.

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 3:27:16 PM

LOL I would hate to see you on Wii Boxing :)

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 4:07:57 PM
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@ Frenchy, LOL.
No, no, no no, I probably couldn't do it on a WII at all
I'm afraid I'd break my TV(not to mention trashing just about every other damn thing too in my living room).

I guess then with a Wii, I'd really have to doing that a "EPIC FLAIL-URE" on my part. LOL

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 6:19:32 PM

What are you, an Ogre Champion?

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Dimelo
Wednesday, June 24, 2009 @ 12:17:18 PM

I think thats what its all about... its the only thing that makes sense. They want players to break their controllers playing with the anolog stick... to get more money out of them. I took my playstation to the barber shop I go to with the game fight night 3 and left it there a few days... the anolog stick used to throw punches broke on 2 controllers. Nothing happened to the buttons. The button mashing excuse they are using sounds rediculous because there will still be guys who will just use the anolog stick 900mph without knowing what they are doing... the only difference is that the controler would end up breaking. I was looking forward to this game so much... I'm so disappointed... no buy from me.

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twenty8nine
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 7:44:01 PM
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Why not use the motion sensing capabilities of the SIXAXIS? Pull a Wii and use one controller in each hand and use the player's actual motions as an option. That would require a weird 2 controller setup for one player though.

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556pineapple
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 8:04:59 PM
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I like the analog. Makes it more challenging and easier to screw up (like real boxing) than just memorizing button combos.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, June 16, 2009 @ 10:00:34 PM
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@World, LOL
Well, I have tried Orge Battle LTD, eposode 5, March of the Black Queen.

But no.....I won't kill my brothers for the Empress

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a1_
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 @ 12:20:53 AM
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they are retarded either way.. was it bothering anybody when it was in? why removing it? morons. i for one used both. i like jabs uppercuts and hooks with buttons and the rest more complicated hits like haymakers with the analog stick. full use of the controller is way better. why remove the options that were already there. stupid. still bought the game though, its amazing.

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boner27
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 @ 2:02:58 AM
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Pleae E.A. add the face buttons to the controls like Fight Night Round 3 (control config #3 ) it was the best way to play the game

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Hawkeye
Wednesday, June 17, 2009 @ 2:13:56 PM
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I just downloaded the demo of Fight Night 4 and I rather enjoyed it. I think the analog controls combined with the buttons for blocking, ducking and weaving made for a fun game. I think it's realistic and makes for some great strategy.

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