Sony, Analyst Issue Responses To Activision's Threat
See Full ImageSome people will do anything to see a PlayStation 3 price cut, and Activision boss Bobby Kotick decided to try a scare tactic.
According to reports all around the Internet, the Activision Blizzard CEO has threatened to stop supporting Sony hardware unless they drop the price of the PS3, and presumably, the PSP Go. His bold and surprising statement is as follows:
"They have to cut the price, because if they don’t, the attach rates [the number of games each console owner buys] are likely to slow. If we are being realistic, we might have to stop supporting Sony. When we look at 2010 and 2011, we might want to consider if we support the console — and the PSP [portable] too."
Of course, Kotick is brimming with confidence based on the Activision lineup for 2009, and he's only trying to sell as many copies of Modern Warfare 2 and Guitar Hero 5 as possible. Everybody knows the guy is just bluffing, as Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter already said:
"Of course Bobby’s bluffing, and good for him. I think Bobby’s obviously interested in Sony selling as many PS3s as they possibly can, and he’s not happy with their penetration so far. I think he favours a price cut, and would rather see one sooner than later."
SCEE has come forward with a fairly bland response to all this, saying they "respect" the opinion of third-party developers but they won't comment any further. Look, we needn't concern ourselves with this non-story, as we call it. It's merely a big player doing a bit of posturing and threatening because he's in a position to do so, and everyone in the industry understands this. The bottom line is not attach rate; the bottom line is that there are around 23 million PS3s in the world (which isn't a bad comparison to the 28 million 360s), and there's no way on God's green earth that Activision will slash their sales potential by...what, 45%? It just won't happen.
But it's interesting to watch, isn't it?
6/19/2009 Ben Dutka
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www
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:40:20 PM
I mean you coulda said : "Sony try and cut your price" but don't threaten. This is a wrong move.
Okay Sony cuts it and suffers and YOU Activision gain...wow
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fundando
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:48:02 PM
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Gregory Freeman
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 1:06:45 PM
my most anticipated game of the year
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pavlovic
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 12:57:18 PM
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Swim_Irr
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 6:49:13 PM
i only played 2 and and some of 3.
and, ya, why do they come out with new ones so damn fast?
All this franchise does is make people go, "Guitar Hero!" when a song is played anywhere away from the game. (Who honestly doesn't do this?)
I stopped playing because music is way too much of a big part of my life that i don't want to think of a video game every time a song from one of the MANY installments happens to play.
It's hard for me to listen to a lot of rock without "Red - Green - Blue - Blue - Yellow" flashing in my head.
I'm glad they never really got into my generation's genres of rock, although they did put a Senses Fail and Killswitch Engage in 3 i think...
but anything from my dad's generation has been played out by this franchise alone. Its kinda saddening because i absolutely love all of the classic rock that my dad listened to.
What could i do? just stop playing i guess...
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Kangasfwa
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 11:54:12 PM
The new IP Singularity was developed in secret until the team was ready to prove they had a game. The game's producer (I think) made the comment that getting new IP green lighted at Activision is the holy grail there.
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vicious54
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 12:58:38 PM
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OPHIDIAN
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 7:30:13 PM
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Gregory Freeman
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 1:12:59 PM
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Fane1024
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:13:03 PM
Oh, you're not willing to lose a bunch of money? THEN WHY WOULD YOU EXPECT SONY TO DO SO?
Douche bag.
Instead of doing something to help Sony sell PS3s (e.g., exclusives) and increase the user base for future games, all these companies are behaving like spoiled brats, expecting Sony to take all the risks so that they can reap the rewards in the future.
It's mostly Sony's responsibility, but the third-party comapanies have no right showing the PS3 little-to-no support in the early days and then complaining that the sales are too slow.
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Nynja
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 12:59:37 PM
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Funny how he said nothing about the PS2. With the sales numbers for CoD4 and World at War, I seriously can't imagine A-B pulling support. Even if they did, I'm sure he'd be crawling back to Sony after the release of GOWIII, FFXIII, FFvXIII, FFXIV, GT5, and more.
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Cpt_Geez
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 12:59:57 PM
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www
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:42:51 PM
I mean i got an xbox 360 and all so i could care less, but disrespecting my ps3 like that is just some total B.S
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aaronisbla
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:00:45 PM
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LegendaryWolfeh
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:03:29 PM
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Wage SLAVES
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 10:57:08 PM
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LegendaryWolfeh
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:02:46 PM
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HOODGE
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:31:48 PM
You know what I say COD is a huge franchise, but the fact that Infinity Ward is taking that title away from their next offering in Modern Warfare 2 just oozes out that Call of Duty is getting beaten to death. Like nothing really innovative and new comes from it each yearly edition, and it's more the same game every year with a few different ingredients added.
I'm not saying the game is bad, but from what we've seen Sony's first party exclusive developers creating like Resistance/Killzone 2/Uncharted 2 Among Thieves/Socom Confrontation/MAG, these IP's easily stand up to any COD game and from a technical standpoint surpass it.
Sony's has some of the best talented developers on their side, and the mere trash threats that this dude from Activision cackled out of his beak towards Sony was absolutely uncalled for. Sure Activision go support only Microsoft and Nintendo. See ya.
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englishgolfer
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:10:13 PM
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Arvis
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:20:48 PM
-Arvis
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Jawknee
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:10:28 PM
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Nynja
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:20:37 PM
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Jawknee
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:23:19 PM
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Highlander
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:06:59 PM
Of course, they're wrong.
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Fane1024
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:20:58 PM
That's not quite true. Some games sell way more units on 360, but many sell about the same number, and a few sell way better on PS3. I'm guessing Activision's games (COD, especially) are selling better on 360.
The total number of functioning consoles actually being used is closer than the raw numbers suggest, so I bet the variation in sales distribution depends mostly on whether gamers have friends who play multiplayer on a specific console.
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Deleted User
Monday, June 22, 2009 @ 4:06:19 AM
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Deleted User
Monday, June 22, 2009 @ 4:55:06 AM
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Nynja
Monday, June 22, 2009 @ 12:37:17 PM
When looking at the install base numbers alone, one would expect the 360 sales to be higher than they actually are when compared against the PS3's. This I understand and considered when making my post. The fact is when you look at total number of game sales per console per month, PS3 is almost always last of the current generation.
Now, using the theory of actual working 360 consoles does not help Sony's claim with attach rates. If the NA install base of working 360s are actually lower than figures given by NPD or Microsoft of sold units, it only improves the 360 attach rate.
Also one could argue the actual number of PS3s being used for gaming versus super computers. Being a multipurpose device, analysts can only guess what the PS3's actual total install base is for gaming use. This would only increase the attach rate for PS3s while lowering the actual install base. That being said, I would imagine that the percentage of PS3s used for non-gaming tasks is lower than that of the non-working 360s percentage.
It all depends on how you spin it. I think what Kotick was trying to get across was the "risk factor" is higher on Sony's platform than others. I still stand by my original post that solid titles like MW2 will sell millions and it remains to early for developers to decide on pulling support when some of the biggest console sellers are just around the corner.
As much as I hate Kotick's statement, I would not be able to disagree with him about pulling support of Sony's console if the price does not come down -AND- the install base does not go up by 2011. A scare tactic obviously, as stated before more likely in attempt to spur sales on company shares.
Regardless of what any big-wig decides, I will continue to play my PS3 more than my 360. It's where the games I want are, at no extra cost.
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Nynja
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:19:22 PM
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Activision knows about a price drop from Sony with the new hardware. He makes a subtle threat if they don't lower the price. 2 months later, price drops and the press picks it up as Kotick having "pull" in the industry.
Either that or he's trying to boost his shares.
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SerichA
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:20:17 PM
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Let's not worry about this. For now, the only important project of theirs is Modern Warfare 2, and it's not going anywhere.
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Jawknee
Monday, June 22, 2009 @ 5:29:37 PM
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GHill4Life
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:22:46 PM
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Jawknee
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:24:37 PM
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GHill4Life
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:28:36 PM
I love my PS3 its worth the price I paid for it but I bought it when times were good and $$ was easy. The worlds changed very fast in a few years and Sony needs to change too. A price cut is a very good idea right now.
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Jawknee
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:30:54 PM
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booze925
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:25:38 PM
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Jawknee
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:29:50 PM
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chocoholic
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 8:33:08 PM
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NiteKrawler
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 12:05:59 PM
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sticklife
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:30:22 PM
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www
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:34:11 PM
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Now it's a minus respect for me, activision. Watch your mouth.
Infinity Ward could be better off under Take-Two, don't be bragging now mister.
None of these other publishers are complaining. You think Sony don't want there ps3 price as low as possible, it's just difficult considering the cost of production, PLEASE cut Sony some slack!
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Oxvial
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 1:55:23 PM
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those ones need the price cut 59.99 is sick !I miss 49.99.
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Fane1024
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:26:19 PM
If we as a group demonstrate that we won't pay $60 for games, the release prices WILL drop. Look what happened with the PSP (e.g., Patapon and Patapon 2 releasing at $20).
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:09:05 PM
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Scarecrow
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:21:55 PM
Thank you for pointing it out(as if it's not obvious)
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:40:20 PM
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Scarecrow
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:55:52 PM
He's demanding that they do.
Two different things
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:01:59 PM
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AntDC
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 10:08:00 AM
Like this isn't common knowledge. Why should Sony lower the price of their console, and make a loss, just so that Activision will make more money? It's ridiculous, and to be honest I don't think Activision are in a position where they can just "pull" away from the PlayStation brand. Losing those potential sales would hurt them quite badly.
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Scarecrow
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:22:31 PM
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NEVER
I have never in my life bought an Activision game
Proud of it!
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:48:19 PM
Think about it.
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Scarecrow
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:56:37 PM
By the way how can you compare a bra to a video-game company?
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:06:05 PM
I was comparing the logic behind your statement with a different product. Come on!
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Arvis
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:25:48 PM
...maybe a lesbian?
Am I making all this up in my head?
-Arvis
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:34:44 PM
I can't believe you remembered.
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Deleted User
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:37:29 PM
You guys make me sick!
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AntDC
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 9:23:03 PM
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Scarecrow
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 11:04:32 PM
Activision hasn't done anything I'd like.
Note: Not disputing that they have some good games.
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Mr Bitey
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:22:42 PM
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COD WaW - 3.3
Guitar Hero: World Tour - 1.2
Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock - 1.88
Prototype .06 (vs .07 on the 360)
(sales in millions)
Now when you take into consideration that Guitar Hero and COD games are all built on the same engine, and when you factor in all of the PSN sales for DLC… do you honestly believe they are loosing money on the PS3?
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Jawknee
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:33:09 PM
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Mr Bitey
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:41:46 PM
It seems to be a jab at Sony’s CEO, Howard Stringer to drop the royalty percentage more than anything else
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Victor321
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 2:45:00 PM
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Can they please stop, before they unintentionally adjust some people's spending plans (i.e. not buy it)?
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Tim Speed24
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:16:35 PM
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Highlander
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:22:52 PM
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Highlander
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:19:52 PM
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I mean, let's just take a step back for a moment and look at two things. Bobby Kotic represents a company that charges $189.99 for some plastic replicas of instruments that can't actually play a note. Sony on the other hand manufactures a world class computer system and sells it below cost. And yet, Mr Kotic thinks he has room to blast Sony for not cutting the price of that state of the art video game system still selling for less than it bloody well costs to make?
Someone tell me why Mr Kotic thinks anyone except skinflint, el-cheapo gamers with an axe to grind will listen to him.
Who the hell does Mr Kotic think he is, that he is going to dictate to Sony (or any other game console maker) how they sell their products? How would he react if Sony basically told him to sell his core products at a 25% loss per unit sold? Because that's what he's telling Sony they need to do. Only it's not just a comment, it's a threat.
Really, who does he think he is? I'm not sure, but I kinda think threatening any of the three console makers with anything is an astoundingly bad idea. It's also incredibly unprofessional.
Mr Kotic, there's an old saying about folks who live in glass houses not throwing stones. Before you open your mouth to let your belly rumble again, perhaps you might consider that you sell a cheap pile of tat for $189.99 and Sony sells a world class state of the art computer system for only $210 more than your cheap pile of tat. Care to tell us which is a better deal at those prices?
Not that I would ever claim that Activision would gouge their customers.....much.
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Deleted User
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:38:42 PM
I just realized that when I scrolled almost through half of the messages cause I'm in a hurry.
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Masterofallz
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 1:20:35 AM
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Nynja
Monday, June 22, 2009 @ 12:39:45 PM
Guitar Hero add-on prices. Nuff said.
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HOODGE
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:35:58 PM
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Okay as a customer of both the PS3 and 360, I know what I'm talking about. So I'm gonna express myself to the point with facts.
The PS3 is said to be the highest priced system out this generation and in big need of a price drop. WHY? That is the question. What does it offer for $399.00 that makes it's price basically a bargain? BluRay for one is the next biggest media platform now and the price of Bluray only machines has come somewhat down, but no where close to how cheap DVD players are selling. Plus the bluray player for the PS3 always gets constant updating through the network, which makes it the best bluray player you can buy.
It has a built in WiFi adapter for wireless networking which is incredible value. That's not cheap either.
The standard PS3 model has a built in 80GB hard drive for every unit. 80GB is not huge but more than enough for what the average PS3 owner needs.
Bluetooth technology which is huge and becoming a standard for electronics today which adds value.
Free online access through PSN which offers incredible performance and awesome services at no additional costs.
And finally, amazing quality, reliability, and professional customer service which is very important for consumers to feel a sense of confidence that their hard earned money spent was well worth it.
NOW let's go to Xbox 360's world and I'm gonna start off with their arcade sku starting at $199.00. I've got a pen and paper and a calculator right here with me and we are gonna compare the value of this system. Reason being as everybody rants on Sony to drop the price because the 360 arcade is cheaper. But to just be able to get some of the features Sony's machine offers, they are gonna need to buy accessories. So let's check out these add ons and see what we come up for a price:
1) 360 arcade machine - $199.00 with old DVD tech.
2) Hard drive needed. Let's go with the starter 60GB model at $105.00. You need a hard drive if you wanna play games so that is a given.
3) Wireless internet connection - many people due use this feature for gaming location most comfortably suited in the home. $99.00
Right there we are at $403.00 for what you need to add the features that Sony's machine offers.
Plus don't forget the $50.00 fee for online gaming on live which comes to the grand total of $453.00. Wow looky see the PS3 is the better value at $399.00 plus has 20GB more for hard drive space.
NOW finally let's look at Sony's equivalent in the 360 Elite which from what many Gamestop/EB Games stores in my area report as the unit most people buy now when it comes to a 360 purchase as you get everything in one package.
360 Elite base price - $399.00 which gives you these features:
120gb hard drive/hdmi cable/wireless controller and headset. Unfortunately no built in WIFI capability.
WIFI adapter add on - $99.00
1 yr Live subscription fee - $50.00
Grand total of $528.00
So in the end both the 360 arcade and Elite systems ended up being more than the $399.00 80gb PS3 and the 160gb unchartered PS3 bundle came at $29.00 less than the Elite.
So now that that is finally out visually and clear to everyone, does this So called rant about Sony needing to drop the price on their PS3 even need to exist anymore? Why does 360 get a pass in this area? Why don't you hear about people complaining about the Elites price? I don't know if it's me, but I just don't hear the consumers/media complaining about the 360's price at all. What's with that?
You see that's where experience and good common sense comes into play. If sony would only advertise what I just drew up here and educate customers more, their price would not have any issue anymore. And obviously it doesn't help that the Gamestops/EB Games are all 360 fanboys either. And on top of that the piss poor reliability and joke of a customer service from Microsoft doesn't help to add to this so called Value they preach about.
One last story I as a 360 sucker as well can tell you I have 2 360's here at home. One as a spare if you can figure out why. LMAO. I'm using the new spare I bought which is the Limited Halo 3 machine which came with a standard 20gb hard drive.
Well as the 20gb is almost full to capacity, I was forced to go to Best Buy and pick up a 120gb drive for more capacity which came in at $159.00. My Lmt edition 360 was at $399.00 when I bought it at EB Games. Microsoft has a great way of making you spend money as I could of just bought a new 60gb starter harddrive for $99.00. That was all I really needed. But NO they don't include the data transfer cable and software in that bundle so that I could transfer all my game saves/game purchases/dlc downloads/ and my gamertag info from my old drive to the new one. But the smart little buggers Microsoft is in getting you to spend more money to make more KABILLIONS is that if you want that Data transfer cable/software, it only comes with the 120gb upgrade drive. WHAT A RIP OFF!! That made me mad..
Now my So called Limited Edition Halo 3 Elite machine is now worth $558.00!!
That $399.00 80gb PS3 machine sounds like a steal now. And i've had it for over 2 years now without a problem whereas this Halo machine is my third. Go figure.
So that was a long Rant. Hope everyone read it with an open mind and now can see the need to stop ragging on Sony so much to drop the price. Your $399.00 purchase is worth every penny. Actually an amazing deal.
That's just what frustrates me on why Microsoft always gets a pass with their pricing and RROD issues and Sony in the marketplace seems to get picked on. Can't figure it out. Love to hear some of your feelings and feedback on this. Love to hear your thoughts too Ben..
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Dustinwp
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 3:56:04 PM
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Jawknee
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 4:04:42 PM
the walmart by my house is selling these "Limited Edition Halo 3 Elite" is selling them for 129.
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HOODGE
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:26:39 PM
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Jawknee
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:51:01 PM
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gabbyps3
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 6:37:15 PM
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Robochic
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 4:22:49 PM
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thank u, u have been saying what i;ve been saying for a long time. i agree w/u 100000%
who cares about activision anywase they haven't released anything worth while they just repeat what they already have, graphics in their games are boring and bland anywase
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TEG3SH
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 4:38:16 PM
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Jawknee
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 4:43:12 PM
The frase "Gods Green Earth" it used more by a gentlemen named Michael Medved on his national radio show.
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Scarecrow
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 4:46:38 PM
The Presidency stolen from him
So sad so sad
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TEG3SH
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 4:51:59 PM
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the manbearpig exists I'M SERIAL.LOL
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kreate
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:10:52 PM
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sony's install base: over 200 million units
microsoft's install base: 30 million tops
*no one cares for the original xbox and its totally dead
*gamecube sold 35 mil (if i remember correctly)
so xbox360 hasnt even passed the gamecube in sales
and xbox360 is clearly losing momentum + hype + exclusive games, while ps3 is gaining momentum + hype + exclusive games, which means ps3 will be the future.
so as a CEO, why in the hell would u suddenly drop sony's platforms? he must be seriously retarded.
another thing i want to know is... when the xbox360 was 400 dollars, how come no one complained about their 5 million install base?
are these people paid off by microsoft? are there THAT many more xbox fanboys? whats up with that?
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Deadman
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:25:13 PM
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Fane1024
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:34:36 PM
Which is why I wonder how anyone can think PS3 sales are poor. Too high a standard set by the PS1 & 2, I guess.
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kreate
Sunday, June 21, 2009 @ 2:47:52 AM
but ps2 was recently launched in central and south america, over there, the ps2 is the current gen. that's 1 whole continent.
as of now, activision is still releasing games on the ps2 and psp. so ps2 and psp is still a source of income for the publisher.
therefore, we have to consider the install base of the ps2,psp, and the ps3 combined. against microsoft's xbox360, and we cant count the original xbox cuz no one is making games for it.
sony: ps2,psp,ps3
microsoft:xbox360
compared to ur theory of
sony:ps3
microsoft:xbox360
*yea i kind of thought the gamecube sales were wrong but, i didnt really cared for it cuz... nobody else cares for the gamecube, but thanks for correcting me
**the CEO said "we might have to stop supporting Sony" he didnt say 'ps3'
***unless people are fanboys, sony's ps3 is selling, but the sales are not as good as people are expecting it to be, and this is where the issue lies
if ps3's install base was higher than the xbox360, than nobody will make such statements. and that is why most people want a ps3 price reduction.
let's face it. many people complained about the ps3 when it was launched, EX:not many games, better online, too expensive, nobody needs blu ray, no rumbling controller etc.
so what happened after this? sony brought the games out, they improved the online, price was reduced from 600 to 400, blu ray won the format war, dualshock3 was released
when u look at the facts, sony gave people what they want, the thing is.. people are still complaining, and spreading propaganda bullsh*t like 'sony is full of unfulfuilled promise'.
i always ask them, what MORE do u want sony to do? how many promises did microsoft actually fulfill? they cant even make a working console. so what are people talking about?
there WILL be another price drop, and dont worry activision, the price drop will probably come before the launch of modern warfare2 if that would make u happy mr CEO
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Deadman
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:11:13 PM
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To Parapharse the great Jack Trenton "Alot of people that dont have SONY stock are intrested in seeing a price drop."
And if MW2 DLC is going all to the 360 than F Them It wont be a Day 1 purchase for my ass.
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Alienange
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:02:36 PM
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Xra897
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:17:32 PM
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smileys_007
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:20:24 PM
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Hey do you remember the last time that I called you gay because you're bashing the high sales of RE5? Well, i just remembered. I just can't believe that what i've said was true.
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Douchebaguette
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:29:30 PM
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jmo_INDY_Repub
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fluffer nutter
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 12:21:06 AM
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RadioHeader
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:44:54 PM
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World-wide, the PS3 is selling great at its current price, and so it should.
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Fane1024
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:40:01 PM
They are exceeding their sales goals, which aren't exactly conservative, especially in a bad market.
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Oyashiro
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:49:45 PM
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Well then... Screw them! I demand Activision to drop all there prices by $70. If not, I will never deal with them again!
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Oyashiro
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 6:14:31 PM
I'd rather they go the way of Blaz Blue with CE, You get it if you pre-order. Its not worth anything extra, or at least above $10 more.
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b3mike
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:50:52 PM
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"Nash out"
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Oxvial
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:58:00 PM
nobody cares about handhelds !!
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HOODGE
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 5:59:19 PM
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AntDC
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 10:16:20 AM
Haha, except for the what... 50 million that bought one...?
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Fane1024
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:44:00 PM
360 = late 2005
Your point is still valid.
Last edited by Fane1024 on 6/20/2009 3:46:50 PM
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zee
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 6:16:57 PM
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smileylyon
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 6:43:21 PM
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Screw Activision and their overpriced underdeveloped games! They can jump on the Valve bandwagon for all I care!
MW2 - PASS! I'm excited about MAG!!
Last edited by smileylyon on 6/19/2009 6:43:47 PM
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jmo_INDY_Repub
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 7:12:30 PM
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Kai200X
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 7:26:26 PM
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King James
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 9:07:03 PM
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jlch777
Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 9:10:36 PM
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What a joke! he needs just a little more humbleness...just a little...;)
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Kangasfwa
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 12:23:07 AM
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Mornelithe
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 12:36:08 AM
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Morne
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BikerSaint
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 1:12:27 AM
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F*CK YOU, YOU PRICE-GOUDGING PLASTICWARE COMPANY!
You had better get off your high horse, because you don't want to wind up losing the reins, and then have a tree branch snap your head back into reality.
Until you can lead by your own example and take 1/4% off the price of all your own products, then just Shut the F*cK UP, before your gums rot from "Hoof In Mouth" disease!
And just remember this, it's a 2 way street, there Bub, so you don't support Sony, all 24million + of us don't support you!
Bottom line is..... keep running your mouth, and don't be surprised if Sony bends you right over your future red-ink-spattered sales charts.
And when they do, I hope you've run out of that industrial sized 55 gallon drum of Vaseline!
Last edited by BikerSaint on 6/20/2009 1:17:35 AM
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Fane1024
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:49:34 PM
"Hear, hear is an expression used as a short repeated form of hear ye and hear him. It represents a listener's agreement with the point being made by a speaker."
Also, for all of you out there, it's "couldn't care less" and "whale (not wail) on something".
Last edited by Fane1024 on 6/20/2009 3:51:52 PM
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hobgoblin
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:01:58 AM
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Maybe if they treated both consoles alike (like Criterion) instead of MW2 timed dlc (2 map packs for the 360), and patches that always seemed to take ages for the PS3.
Last edited by hobgoblin on 6/20/2009 3:02:29 AM
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booze925
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:05:20 AM
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Lotusflow3r
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 4:53:53 AM
The Last guardian will be more profound and much more of an experience than CoD will be a 100 times over.
MAG will better it too, why? innovation and it tries something never done before. Thats whats needed.
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Masterofallz
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 11:35:51 AM
...Go away.
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booze925
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 3:07:27 AM
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questing222
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 4:17:24 AM
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SPORTS/OUTDOOR
Golf - tee it up
tony Hawk
little league world series
Cabelas hunting series
Rapala fishing series
Monster jam
Pimp My Ride
Hot Wheels
Greg Hastings Paintball series
MUSIC
Guitar Hero series
Danving with the stars (lol)
ACTION
Call Of Duty series
Modern Warfare spinoff series
Quake Wars
Soldier of fortune
Civil War (Plus all future history channel titles)
Xmen
Spiderman
Transformers
007 James Bond
KIDS
Spyro The Dragon
Crash Bandicoot
Pitfall
Barbie
Shrek
Kung Fu Panda
Madagascar
Monsters Vs Aliens
Plus all future Dreamworks animations
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Qubex
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 4:32:36 AM
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Q!
"i am home"
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zee
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 9:12:43 AM
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CaptRon
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 10:11:35 AM
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Kempy21
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 2:22:07 PM
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and surely activison would lose more money if they didn't make the games on Sony's platforms.
Last edited by Kempy21 on 6/20/2009 2:24:31 PM
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Titch1794
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 4:14:58 PM
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Alienange
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 6:38:25 PM
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BikerSaint
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 9:34:18 PM
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booze925
Saturday, June 20, 2009 @ 10:23:04 PM
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somethingrandom
Sunday, June 21, 2009 @ 2:03:16 AM
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@booze925
KZ2 was awesome. MW2 will also be awesome.
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Highlander
Sunday, June 21, 2009 @ 10:42:27 PM
Yes, but wasn't it NICE!?
</Tim Curry voice>
Go on, admit it, you enjoy a good rant as much as the next man/woman/gender-free sentient being.
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ec0li
Sunday, June 21, 2009 @ 3:10:18 PM
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Does Activision and its shareholders want to lose a chance to sell millions of software sold on the PS3?
Empty threats, that's all it is.
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OriginalSin
Monday, June 22, 2009 @ 4:29:55 AM
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COD is a freakin amazing IP and I love those games.... But I did enjoy KIllzone 2 more. not because it was an exclusive but because it F****** rocked. And Resistance 2 for that matter... We the PS3 owners have a bigger choice of games (oh the irony) to choose from, that's why someone might choose Uncharted, GT5, God of war III over COD:MW2.
I'm not saying they won't buy it but they might get it at a later stage... And not like all the 360 (only) owners that dash out to get it on day 1 just cause they have nothing else to play....especially as an exclusive.
I didn't take multiplat titles other than COD in consideration here but it will be pretty much the same thing regardless.
Like Prototype won't sell as fast or as much on the PS3 cause we have inFamous and PS3 owner tend to support the Exclusives more these days for obvious reasons.
But like you said there is NO way they will cut their sales by 45% over all just to prove a point unless M$ is paying them that amount they'll loose. But that alone will basically kill M$ so be my guest then....
If they actually such a thing I just won't care.
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OriginalSin
Monday, June 22, 2009 @ 4:29:58 AM
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COD is a freakin amazing IP and I love those games.... But I did enjoy KIllzone 2 more. not because it was an exclusive but because it F****** rocked. And Resistance 2 for that matter... We the PS3 owners have a bigger choice of games (oh the irony) to choose from, that's why someone might choose Uncharted, GT5, God of war III over COD:MW2.
I'm not saying they won't buy it but they might get it at a later stage... And not like all the 360 (only) owners that dash out to get it on day 1 just cause they have nothing else to play....especially as an exclusive.
I didn't take multiplat titles other than COD in consideration here but it will be pretty much the same thing regardless.
Like Prototype won't sell as fast or as much on the PS3 cause we have inFamous and PS3 owner tend to support the Exclusives more these days for obvious reasons.
But like you said there is NO way they will cut their sales by 45% over all just to prove a point unless M$ is paying them that amount they'll loose. But that alone will basically kill M$ so be my guest then....
If they actually do such a thing I just won't care.
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Deleted User
Monday, June 22, 2009 @ 5:03:28 AM
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Console PS3..........Xbox 360
America 8,733,795 17,530,909
Others 10,770,414 12,136,136
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KwicTriga
Tuesday, June 23, 2009 @ 4:24:18 AM
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I can not believe this.
They might as well say "hey, sony your making money, *Petre Griffin voice* can we have some of your money"*End Petre Griffin voice and start Dr Zoidburg coice=Xbot's*" Wooo wooo woooo wooo woooo"
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KwicTriga
Tuesday, June 23, 2009 @ 4:24:20 AM
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I can not believe this.
They might as well say "hey, sony your making money, *Petre Griffin voice* can we have some of your money"*End Petre Griffin voice and start Dr Zoidburg coice=Xbot's*" Wooo wooo woooo wooo woooo"
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KwicTriga
Tuesday, June 23, 2009 @ 4:24:43 AM
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I can not believe this.
They might as well say "hey, sony your making money, *Petre Griffin voice* can we have some of your money"*End Petre Griffin voice and start Dr Zoidburg coice=Xbot's*" Wooo wooo woooo wooo woooo"
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Sir Shak
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Friday, June 19, 2009 @ 12:56:56 PM
Fu** DJ Hero . Scratch DJ and Brutal Legend FTMFW .
Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 6/19/2009 2:34:27 PM