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Bioware Toying With Full Frontal Nudity In Dragon Age

PSXE is magical. Every time we do an editorial about a particular subject, a piece of news pops up elsewhere that reflects the topic. ...it's starting to give us bad dreams.

Earlier this week, we told you sex in video games was here to stay. Now, Bioware has been the target of some sexual themed controversy in recent years (you may recall the whole female alien sex fiasco from Mass Effect), and perhaps due to that fallout, they're still toying with the idea of full frontal nudity in Dragon Age: Origins. According to VideoGamer, Bioware did confirm that any sexual situations will be seen in cut-scene format only; there will be no interactive sexual gameplay segments. If you didn't already know, you'll be able to sleep with other characters in order to improve your relationships with them, but they're not sure if nudity will be included. The sex was in Mass Effect, but there was no nakedness; in regards to Origins, Bioware vice president Greg Zeschuk had this to say:

"I don't think we've worked that out yet, because we can adjust that whenever we want, right? On Mass Effect we worked extensively to figure out, how do we want to portray it? It's not oodling pixels [laughs] – sad but probably titillating, too. I think for us it's more just making sure it fits the context of what we're trying to create."

We're pretty sure he meant to say "ogling" pixels, but whatever. "Oodling" is a good word, too. Anyway, Dragon Age: Origins is slated to release for the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360 and PC on October 23, and if Bioware does opt for the controversial stuff, you can bet the self-righteous, preachy articles I referenced in my editorial will make their presences felt. Oh goody. Can't wait. 'rolling eyes'

7/9/2009 Ben Dutka

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Comments (98 posts)

Alienange
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 12:48:52 PM
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This is an outrage ! Half that woman is missing!

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tes37
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 3:28:24 PM

Ben's just toying with half frontal nudity

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atomaweapon
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 1:03:35 PM
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Play now, My, Lord.

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Arvis
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 1:10:45 PM

Ha ha! Excellent! You have wit, my friend. ;)

Anyways, I wasn't going to play this game before, now I'm REALLY not going to play it...

-Arvis

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 1:19:20 PM
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Sex in games is unnecessary.

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mexgeo86
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 1:59:38 PM

but it sells though, lol

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www
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 2:25:33 PM

Yea some how,one might argue that games are getting realistic so things like sex will need to accompany them to make them solid but.....................

For real its not really necessary, if we want to see sex,there lot of porn flicks out there, and their getting updated everyday.Heck it takes a day to record a porn flick not years like games & movies......so maybe its not really necessary

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:14:50 PM

Is death in games necessary? Are pools of blood necessary? Are gruesome action scenes necessary?

Why is sex such a hot button issue that you object to it, but few ever object to blood, gore and death in games?

Good god, are you more afraid of sex than death?

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screw_off
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:49:11 PM

I do believe that most of the people here are afraid of sex... why would you be opposing it if you are not afraid of it and want games to become more realistic when it comes to gameplay. Such example is... Grand Theft Auto... Sims... God of War... all have contained sex in someway shape or form. GTA series... forever... Sims... Sims 1 for computer... God of War... YES! They have sex, people love sex. It does sell. Kids will want the game if it has guns, death, sex, drug, or violence. DONE.

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Alienange
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:49:44 PM

Oh snap! TheHighlander just pwned Jawknee.

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Fane1024
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:02:13 PM

EVERYTHING in games is unnecessary.

Personally, I'd like to see more actually mature content in games (a la Max Payne 2)...and that would include nudity and sex.

I don't really care for sex mini-games, though.

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www
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:04:16 PM

I'll be damned if i was afraid of sex or it being part of video games bothered me.Sex never gets boring,video games do.Heck i might put it before games you know...

The point is.....is it really necessary? Sex fits games like GTA not all games....i mean who wants to see Cloud,Tidus,Dante,Snake in some sex scene.I mean who wants to see Sackboy going up and down LMAO!
You realize it fits the GTA protagonists more than those i mentioned, though okay i could picture Balthier scoring his next blowjob.
Whatever,sex or no sex am still playing.

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:07:10 PM

@WWW

If that happened, I'd probably hurt myself laughing so much! I remember the first time I got my sackboy to slap another sackboy. myself and everyone playing/watching burst into laughter and wasted an hour with a sackboy riot. I hurt from laughing so much. I don't even want to think about how hard I'd laugh at what you're suggesting...

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Nynja
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:11:00 PM

Round of applause for Highlander.

Sex is a form of creation. Killing or Murder is a form of destruction.

I could never understand why parents feel the need to hide something from their kids that they inevitably will be engaging in when they get older. Yet some feel that violence, such as killing, is perfectly fine for kids to watch or engage in virtually. United States has always had an issue with accepting sex as a part of human life and need to learn it is far from dirty... unless you're into coprophagia.

I would much rather my kids visit porn shops than weapon outlets.

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www
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:26:42 PM

Nynja i understand but look at this;

Parents know getting a gun isn't that easy and it takes a whole lotta balls to kill a real person,cause its considered a crime and you know your going inside for a long time or for life.As parents know their kids are aware of this, why will they have to worry too much when kids are playing violent games?

Engaging in sex on the other hand could be that easy,first of all its not a crime, getiing your lil' man into a girl's lil' woman is that easy,whole lotta prostitutes around.Now AIDS effed everything up prompting adults to be worried about youngsters engaging in unprotected sex.Reason why violence has been around for a long time opposed to sex in games.

Hope you catch my drift?

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:30:11 PM

Sex and sexualtly has a stronger influence humans. There's no proof that cartoon violence makes kids and young people more interested in violence. But it is a fact that over saturation in sex cause kids to engage in it sooner. Especially young men. Watching a violent movie at a young age didn't make me want to hurt anyone. However seeing a naked female made me want to explore the subject further. Saturating children with sex at a young age steals part of their innocents. More so then seeing cartoon violence. I feel the same way about violence that goes over the line.

Sex is scared and private. Death isn't.

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King James
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:40:19 PM

@Jawknee
Seriously dude, get off the gas.

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:49:28 PM

Games rated M are not for kids. Just as movies rated R are not for kids. If we ran everything on the basis of how it would affect kids, we'd all still be eating Gurber baby food and watching Blues Clues.

Oh won't somebody think of the children!!
<rolls eyes>

Sorry. But this kind of thing really bugs the living crap out of me.

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Deadman
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:53:01 PM

@ Jawknee your wifes looking at your computer isnt she? Dude look at Europe they are all doing fine and theyre exposed to sex on prime trime T.V. If "the Kids" are tought by responsible parents about reponsible sex than when they engage in it will be an exceptible time. And yes I have Kids daughters ages 9 and 4.

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Deadman
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:56:38 PM

@ Highlander Ive seen stupid unresponsible parents getting thier kids M rated games GTA4 among others.

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 6:01:17 PM

@www
I've got some news for you, kids will have sex whether they see it in virtual form or not. The teenage pregnancy rate didn't skyrocket as a result of a million teenagers getting their kicks playing Hot Coffee on their Xbox.

As long as people treat sex as a taboo subject that is forbidden and must remain hidden, behind the scenes and private, never to be discussed, kids will grope around for it precisely because adults try so damned hard to hide it. Kids always want to try what is forbidden. It truly is a case of the forbidden fruit tasting sweeter.

If you're worried that having a sex scene in an M rated game, or nudity in an M rated game will somehow encourage kids to have sex, I think you're barking up the wrong tree. First of all, what are kids doing with the game? That's a parenting issue. Secondly, at least if they are getting their kicks with a game, they're not getting their kicks with their girl or boy of choice.

@deadman

Yeah, I have seen parents buying M rated games for pre-teens as well. I'm sure you'll agree when I say it's the parent's fault. It's not the developer, not the retailer and not the legislator, but the parent who has the responsibility of monitoring what their child does.

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 6:06:01 PM

Europe isn't doing fine. They have more abortions then anyone else and they aren't replacing their population.

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 6:13:43 PM

@jawknee
Don't get into a comparison of Europe and the US, on virtually every statistic worth mentioning relating to crime or quality of life the US will lose. Abortion in the US is more strictly limited than in many European countries (though countries like Ireland have very low rates or abortion), and has always been a hot topic with religious groups and political parties in the US. It's no wonder that the official rate is lower than in Europe. However, I wonder how many unofficial, unreported abortions there are, how many teen pregnancies, how many kids up for adoption. Seriously, this is not an argument you can win on the facts or numbers.

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 6:28:53 PM

Highlander I didn't bring up europe and never mentioned the US. I kindly ask you not to put words in my mouth or post.

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Deadman
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 6:36:13 PM

@ Jawknee you did mention Europe in response to me. I believe that Europe on a whole is very open about about sex and why not we're having it. If its in viedogames if its on T.V. if its in movies SO what. As an adult why does it bother you? I am very open about sex if you are not comfortable with it then you shouldnt be having it, sex can be much more than what religion teaches, Its not all about the procreation others happen to like it.

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www
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 6:58:25 PM

Okay Highlander,
check this out...

I have this 12yr old psn friend who is itching to play GTAIV because his mom won't let him, but you'll always find him playing COD4 or COD:WAW anytime i log on.
Both these games have realistic violence whiles GTAIV has sex and drugs in addition.Now the inclusion of these acts, limits a game like GTA reaching the widest audience it possibly could, though it still has a large fan base no doubt.

GTAIV is one of my favorite games this gen and all those acts don't bother me at all. But i feel for my little under-age brothers who can't get a feel of the game simply because its got sex scenes and an M or i8 rating is attached to it.

Its like everybody is playing MLB or some other sports game both young and old. Then devs all of a sudden decide to put a scene where Alex Rodriguez takes photos with some nude cheerleaders post-match, thus the game has to be rated 18 and now those under-age kids can't play? Yea i know this wouldn't be put in a sports game but am saying if those acts weren't in, the game is going to be available for all. Yea yea i know its nice to have games for the matured and games for the kids but really...

Do you blame those parents who bought GTAIV for their kids, i bet they received so much pressure from them. I mean these kids see how GTA is highly rated and their told they can't get they hands on cause its got sex scenes. I feel for them man.

Seriously if we're matured and getting laid regularly we wouldn't bother if sex wasn't part of games cause we're doing the real thing.
Games from the start was for kids but now time's changed and we have older people getting in and its not nice seeing these lil' kids missing out on great titles because of sex?

I repeat, am not saying sex shouldn't be part of video games but am saying, is it really necessary?

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 6:59:48 PM

Deadman. I said I didnt "bring it up". And I'm very comfortable with the subject of sex just in the context of marriage and with my wife. Look, my only point is the game could still be great without the sex. Its fine if you want to be open about it, I just think it's unnecessary. Haha that's all.

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Deadman
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 7:12:27 PM

Jawknee its all good sometimes its fun to argue. These are the topics that always cause discusion and controversy

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 10:05:26 PM

Taking it to the forum...

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Naga
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 1:25:15 PM
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It looks good but in truth the game looks meh

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King James
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:13:34 PM

I bet it doesn't play "meh"

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Naga
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 7:37:47 PM

It will it's from EA

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LegendaryWolfeh
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:35:07 PM

so is a lot of other great games

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King James
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:40:18 PM

I hope you're being sarcastic.

If not: Published by EA, not developed...there's a HUGE difference.

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Alienange
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:46:07 PM

You don't like EA? Ok I'll bite. Why?

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King James
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:57:22 PM

No Alienage! Don't bite!

*whispers* Its a trap.

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SkantDragon
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 1:41:28 PM
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I'm hoping this trend of moving away from having to make every single game suitable for children continues.

I'd say it's part of computer gaming maturing and expanding as an industry. We really need to leave behind the notion that games are for kids.

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wano
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 2:14:34 PM

at least for those who havent grown up yet....:)

i often wonder what my mid life crisis will be. or has it already happened and ive just skipped normality.....hang on a sec...;)

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crump602
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 2:07:42 PM
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I hope they keep adding mature/adult rated content in games. I mean games have to grow up too, no one is gunna keep playin mario style games the rest of there lives! I grew up with Atari, NES, Master system, and would love to see more games mature with me. I don't want to be stuck playing kiddy games the rest of my days!

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BikerSaint
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 2:25:48 PM
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If it's just thrown in just to titilate, then mehhh.
But if it fits right in with the storyline, then it's fine with me.

Anyway, it shouldn't be up to the game developers to police any of their games,
that's "EXACTLY WHAT ANY GOOD PARENTS SHOULD'VE ALREADY BEEN DOING".

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:16:29 PM

Indeed!

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Gabriel013
Friday, July 10, 2009 @ 1:12:32 AM

I've seen plenty of mainstream movies where the nudity and sex were thrown in to titilate and weren't necessary for the story progression but I still have no problem with it being in there.

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fatelementality
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 2:29:07 PM
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This is probably just something they're doing to get more attention focused on them. Even if their game sucks it'll still sell. I'm moody today so to hell with all of you.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:03:07 PM

same goes ya bastard! (kidding) :P

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Totalz
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 2:29:30 PM
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mmmmm...virtual bajingo

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cheng
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 2:32:59 PM
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they should ask for help from some certain japanese gamese developer, "wink"

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King James
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 2:54:56 PM
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Sex scenes are ONLY appropriate if it has a noteworthy impact on the story. So that means that you should ONLY see them in Mature/Adult-only games.

In Bioware's case, they never slack on story and character development so I'm not worried about Dragon Age, Mass Effect 2, or The Old Republic.

Just keep the sex scenes outta the Teen-rated games, like my JRPGs. :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:04:06 PM

yeah JRPGs are just fine being packed with sexual innuendo and that's the way I like it.

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:19:12 PM

@ James
JRPGs? You mean games that feature characters who call themselves Mr Driller and ask the female lead character in the game to pay with his drill - in the most innuendo laden manner possible in spite of the visual evidence that there is indeed a drill to be used?

I think some people need to mature their attitude towards sex, sexuality and nudity.

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King James
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:05:17 PM

Yea, those infamous sexual innuendos would lose their effect is they were followed with actual sex scenes.

@highlander
LOL...drill. Agreed, as usual.

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crawdaddy
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 3:03:21 PM
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God of War anyone! Greatest game everyone talks about. Seems like I remember some sex in there. Quit whining like little babies about a little sex in a video game. How many of you perverts spent endless hours trying to find Lara Croft naked.

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kevinater321
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 3:25:34 PM

:-0......STALKER......0-:

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:04:57 PM

If we're talkin about Angelina Jolie one needn't look very hard.

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eLLeJuss
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 3:06:39 PM
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this game goes to the top of my "must buy list" xD

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mackid1993
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 3:45:14 PM
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it is just a publicity stunt.

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King James
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:31:56 PM

You must not know Bioware.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:05:52 PM
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I have to admit, I laughed out loud when I picked up my first hooker in GTAIV and she was goin down on Nico and he's like "I'm glad my mother can't see me now" haha

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www
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:12:50 PM

Ya same here.
Sex in GTA is just perfect but in other games.....well i don't know...

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Banky A
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:21:54 PM

LOL the prostitute sex scenes were censored in my country and AUS.

^_^

I was kinda' bummed out that I didn't get 100% of the experience, even if I didn't care about it.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:29:45 PM
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@World,
You were the one who picked up the hooker, but you let Nico get the BJ?
Dammmmn, That's what I'd call a real friend

Thumbs up just for that move!

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www
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:11:27 PM

LOL

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WorldEndsWithMe
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 10:37:01 PM

haha

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convergecrew
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:45:28 PM
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mmm as long I can make the character look as good as my Mass Effect girl, then Im all for it!

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Cuetes
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:46:24 PM
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I don't see anything wrong with it as long as it is used in a mature manner, I mean I don't think it should turn into a "sex sells" attitude where your playing hard core porn instead of a hardcore game. That being said Godfather 2 has plenty of naked girls in only underwear,(No stickers like GTA4) It adds just a little bit more to the realism aspect.

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:47:02 PM
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Why is sex in games so difficult for people that have no trouble with the violence, blood, gore and death? If we can have ever more faithful renditions of the violence and death, what's wrong with a few breasts and what not?

Why is titillation in games considered any more sad or perverted than looking through a copy of Maxim, or watching TMZ or any of the other Entertainment news shows that follow Hollywood's babes? For that matter why is it considered as bad or worse than flipping through a copy of Hustler or grazing the Internet's limitless buffet of free hardcore imagery?

Look, few if any are going to say that simply inserting (no pun intended) a gratuitous sex scene, or full frontal nudity into a game cut-scene is a great idea. But if it fits with the story, why not?

You know what though, if some enterprising game maker decided to make their game and then include a cheat code or option in the game to have the characters run around nude in all their bouncy, floppy glory. What would it matter as long as it's a) disclosed, and b) appropriately rated?

I'm pretty sure that in my younger and less married days I would have had no objections to an artistically nude version of Soul Calibur...I can't believe that there are any young male gamers today who can truthfully say they'd object. Nor would I be surprised if more than a few female gamers admitted that they had no objections to nude swordsmen (or swords-women for that matter).

They're just bodies, 100% of the world's population has one.

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www
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:10:21 PM

Ivy in Soul Calibur IV is too damn hot in that violet apparel damn!

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Nynja
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:11:26 PM

1,000,000,000 thumbs up for Highlander.

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 5:58:03 PM

Violence in games or movies is usually in the context of a struggle. It's either showed as necessary in a fight for good or shown as an example of what not to do. Sex however is never shown in a healthy context between two healthy married adults. Open relationships and whoring around are glorified and the real concequences are rarely shown. Disease, unwanted pregnancies etc. There's no reason for full frontal nudity in a videogame or a movie. Just like there's no reason for gratuitis violence either. The raunchy sex scene and Blue penis in the watchmen film didn't add any value to the movie. It hurt the experience in my opinion. Just how the over the top violence did the same. There's plenty of ways to tell a story or get a point across with out showing over the top violence or sex. Changling anyone? Eastwood did a fantastic job portraying how brutalized those children were without going over the top. Like I said. It's unnecessary.

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King James
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 6:55:08 PM

The Watchmen is a perfect example of an effective use of nudity when referencing Dr. Manhattan. Dr. Manhattan was so detached from "society" that his "detachment"was portrayed by his nudity. He didn't see the need for clothes anymore after that accident.

"He walked on suns, and witnessed things so minute that it you could hardly tell they existed." U seriously thought it hurt the experience? Really, Jawknee? Really?

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 7:03:13 PM

I understand why schneider wanted the blue penis in there. But it could have been done without it. Lol.

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Deadman
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 7:16:39 PM

The idea of having Dr. Manhattan's penis in the Watchmen wasnt the idea of Zach Schieder but of Allen Moore and Dave Gibons the creators of the comic book, and yes I said comic book not Graphic Novel like somepussy hipster. He (Schneider) just wanted the film to be as acurate as posible.

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Deadman
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:01:37 PM

@ Highlander the issue of sex and gaming is a hot topic because of the "older" generations that still think games are for kids, and adults can find no jot in them.

i.e. "older" meaning pre 1975 those are the ones that often see me as a kid even though I'm 29 and still play.

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King James
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:54:51 PM

See Jawknee...you're a hater.

You obviously have issues with this subject and can't form an accurate counterpoint. You continue to say that "meaningful" nudity in today's entertainment isn't needed...when we ALL know its not NEEDED. No one is arguing that. No one.

Its like debating whether or not a country should go to war, and you argue that guns should be banned because all wars will end as a result.

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 9:52:17 PM

Oh yippy. I was wondering when the name calling would start.

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Alienange
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 4:57:06 PM
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How come the sex in Ultima 7 Serpent Isle didn't cause such a ruckus? I was completely freaked out at that.

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Hezzron
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 9:18:43 PM

What Playstation was that for?.....Ha! Just kidding.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 7:24:45 PM
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Even some movies have to have sex in them, or they just wouldn't be any good without it.

It worked great for Mickey Rourke's movie "9&1/2 Weeks" & I don't think it could've been 1/10th the movie it was without all that raw sex.

"Showgirls" with Elizabeth Berkley & Gina Gershon was another one, although it was more sex & a bit lesser on a great plot.

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Deadman
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 7:58:02 PM

Showgirls is a great flick, uhh but I'm a fan of B-Movies.

But you are absolutly right, Blue Velvet and Wild at Heart are a few more examples of film that woulnt be as good as they are without the inclusion fo sex.

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JMO_INDY
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 7:25:29 PM
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hey,im back,just wanted to aplogize to everyone out there,i wont say what possesions i own unless its relevant.The reason i flipped out in the japanese gaming industry article is because people always blame things on the US and i was just defending my country.i dont hate Canadians,i just dont like the country as a whole. ive expressed my oppinion and you are free to yours as well.dont diminish my country and i wont diminish yours,ive tried to make this appology as civil as possible, i would gladly appreciate it if you guys gave me another chance.Please keep your hate comments to yourself and i will do the same.Thank you.

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:07:17 PM

Lol

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:46:55 PM
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jmo_INDY_Repub1: I don't think you understand our Comments policy.

And it seems others don't really, either. That whole debate up there needs to be in the forums, not in the Comments section. Comments are for commenting specifically on the article in question. If you want to go further, simply go to the forums and ask people to follow you if it's so important to you.

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Jawknee
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:54:11 PM

Understood.

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 10:07:03 PM

As Jawknee said, understood.

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www
Friday, July 10, 2009 @ 6:44:11 AM

Okay we hear you ;)

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Alienange
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:51:31 PM
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"I dont hate Canadians,i just dont like the country as a whole."

That's a classic.

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newchef
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 11:39:10 PM

im gonna start using that irl

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Thirdrail
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 8:54:38 PM
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There's no reason video games need to be the one art form on the planet that cater exclusively to 12 year olds. Cartoons and board games don't even relegate themselves to that status anymore. Plus, the average age of ps3 owners is somewhere in the mid-twenties.

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JMO_INDY
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 9:07:37 PM
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@Alienage,i just meant i dont like what the country represents.All im saying is that im sorry.ok? i'll leave it at that.

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Highlander
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 10:24:37 PM

Life lesson for all.

Showing respect to others costs nothing and yet can earn something priceless, respect offered in return.

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newchef
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 11:40:38 PM

@jmo i dont care what u meant by it, it still sounds awesome...

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CH1N00K
Friday, July 10, 2009 @ 10:21:29 AM

I don't suppose you'd like to go into the forums and explain that a little more would you? What does Canada represent? Just curious. This isn't the place to derail the comments, but in the forums you can spit out your justifications to your hearts content...

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Mr Bitey
Friday, July 10, 2009 @ 10:24:56 AM

Canada really? Haven't you heard of North Korea, Afghanistan, and Iran (to name a few)? There are a lot bigger problems in the world than our friendly neighbors to the North.

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CH1N00K
Friday, July 10, 2009 @ 10:37:57 AM

Actually never mind, don't bother with the forums... I went back to the article you mentioned earlier and pieced it all together of what went on. I'm not going to waste my time getting into it with you. I've got better things to do.

Welcome back by the way.

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Hezzron
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 9:20:32 PM
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If it weren't for the nasty, none of us would be here.....so I say game on!

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newchef
Thursday, July 09, 2009 @ 11:40:52 PM

hell yea brootha!

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Mr Bitey
Friday, July 10, 2009 @ 10:23:14 AM
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Rated R movies feature sex and nudity, so why shouldn't games that are rated M? I'm guessing it's because they are "games" and that word gets associated with kids. If parents are doing there jobs and monitoring what there children do, then there shouldn't be an issue.

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maxpontiac
Friday, July 10, 2009 @ 11:55:35 AM
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"and if Bioware does opt for the controversial stuff, you can bet the self-righteous, preachy articles I referenced in my editorial will make their presences felt."

As opposed to the editorials on the other end of the spectrum??

Talk about bad dreams.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, July 10, 2009 @ 8:12:08 PM

Yeah, believe it or not, editorials have more to do with opinion than preaching.

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