BioWare Co-Founder: It Isn't Fair To "Poke Fun" At Sony

Analysts and journalists alike basically dismissed Activision CEO Bobby Kotick's threat, where he said the publisher might have to stop supporting the PlayStation 3 if Sony didn't provide consumers with a price cut.

And now, as if we really needed any further confirmation of the emptiness of Kotick's words, BioWare co-founder Greg Zeschuk has simply called the threat "silly," and emphasized the importance of the PlayStation brand. In speaking to CVG, Zeschuk acknowledges what PSXE spoke about when we first heard Kotick's statement; that there are "millions" of PlayStation users out there. Said the BioWare co-founder:

"I don't think it's really fair to poke fun at Sony. Certainly the Wii's been a massive success and Sony's probably not going as fast as they thought it would be but I think that they're starting to make the right moves and the software's coming along. I think it's silly to be saying you're not going to support Sony. The brand itself is still huge and there are millions of [users] out there."

Sony boss Howard Stringer said Kotick "likes to make a lot of noise" and all he's really trying to do is put pressure on Sony. This shouldn't come as any surprise, primarily because Activision wants the PS3 to be more accessible this holiday season when the publisher comes forward with its huge releases (Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, Guitar Hero 5, etc.). There's little doubt that Activision wants to reap the benefits of their blockbuster lineup and to do that, they need the hardware to be as appealing as humanly possible. The simplest explanation is very often the right one, yes?

7/13/2009 Ben Dutka

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 10:02:15 PM
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Wonderful for him to offer words of encouragement, how about he actually support the system. At least Activision has put several games on the PS3.

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Jawknee
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 10:14:28 PM

true.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 10:51:56 PM

uh... Dragon Age.

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Highlander
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 11:49:45 PM

Um, I coulda sworn that Bioware is actively developing for PS3. Pretty sure anyway...ya know?

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 11:50:21 PM

Uh hasn't come out yet, PS3 has been out for how long? Exactly.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 11:51:32 PM

One game Highlander?

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:12:41 AM

Well since Bioware has only released 3 games since the PS3 came out (1 for DS, 1 for Iphone, and 1 for 360) what more can you really ask for?

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:14:08 AM

@LV
In reference to Bioware and Greg Zeschuk, you said "how about he actually support the system".

Since they are actively developing at least one game for the PS3, I would have to say that he is indeed supporting the system.

Good grief, what is your problem?

Last edited by Highlander on 7/14/2009 12:15:43 AM

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:37:44 AM

I was simply pointing out while Activision has supported the PS3 from day one Bioware has decided to wait 3 years. So his positive words are moot to me in contrast to Activision's proven support.

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 2:47:39 AM

Whatever.

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Jordahn
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 9:06:35 AM

LV does have a point. It's like trying to help a friend numerous times to find a job, but your friend does nothing to help himself. Then someone out of the blue comes along and tells you that you have to be understanding why your friend has yet to get a job but has done nothing to help that friend. Because of your efforts to help your friend, you'd thing you'd have the right to criticize. In SONY's case, they are doing a great job for a $400 console. Now, I disagree with Kotick's unsubstantiated comment, and I'm glad to hear Bioware's support. But whether you agree with Kotick or not Activision has been behind the PS3 more than Bioware so Bioware's comment might not carry as far as Activision's.

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 9:59:23 AM

@Jordan...

I don't know about you, but when someone has started supporting something, it's not really polite, or fair to start criticizing them for not supporting it. I mean how do you demand that someone show support (as if they are not) when they are showing support by their very actions and statements?

If you want shades of gray, how about a company that's made millions in profits selling software on a video game console that still costs more to make than it's sold for demanding that the console maker take further losses in order to drive the software companies profit line higher still? Seems like it would be that company that's not really showing it's support...hmmm?

Either way, LV made a statement that was contradicted by fact and then stubbornly tried to justify that contradiction. Is that your intent as well?

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 10:50:24 AM

Highlander my point was pretty clear. You took my words out of context, I than clarified them and you still refuse to see the point. Stop being a meanie pants.

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 11:30:22 AM

Not gonna argue more here, if you want, take it to the forum.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 11:42:54 AM

Not a fan of the forums, sorry.

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King James
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 11:51:28 AM

Vertigo,

you talking reckless again...I'm not surprised.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:29:48 PM

It's my shtick, come on I'm a red viper driving down the road at 140 with a large Slurpee from Shell.

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Karosso
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:18:00 PM

I have to say LV remarks about BioWare are not far off the mark and I don't see why people got so carried away to the point of getting nasty.
They are looking more like that army that joins the fight only after they make sure you might actually win, so they can reap the benefits. Its not like they were there all the time defending the PS3 and supporting it from the beginning. BioWare is a great Developer no question and I'm sure I will by their game on my PS3 but,they are a little late to the fight. Well as my late Grandma used to say, better late then never.

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Fane1024
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 7:34:31 PM

Bioware had a long-standing relationship (contractual ?) with MS, so it's no surprise they took a while to support the PS3, but they are now. In other words, you're both right.

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Alienange
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 9:40:39 PM

This round goes to theHighlander. Releasing a lot of games begrudgingly < releasing a few games happily.

Also, most devs are not as large as Activision so good for them if they feel the need to make their voice heard.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 11:39:36 PM

Didn't realize you were refereeing this conversation.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 10:25:38 PM
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Kotex wasn't really poking fun, he just suffers from foot in mouth disease.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:17:35 AM

Ya poking fun and trying to force a policy shift in a completely different corporation are not the same thing.

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xnonsuchx
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 7:17:53 AM

Kotex should be stuffed somewhere ;-)

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JofaMang
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 8:43:09 AM

*giggles*
Kotex
*giggles more*

It is my wife's brand, I know whats going on here!

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Ricochet
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 11:15:45 PM
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I just don't get why Activision is pushing PS3 to get a price cut. With over 20+ million install base, do they really believe their games are so classy that there is not enough PS3 owners to purchase them?

I'm glad Bioware decides to step out and defend the PS3 because they're seems to have a lot of anti-PS3 propaganda out there.

By the way, didn't COD4 and Guitar Hero sell fine on the PS3 with a smaller install base before?

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Fane1024
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 7:57:58 PM

On one hand, Activision have sold over 12 million copies of COD and GH games on PS3, so they should be happy and shut up.

On the other hand, they have sold over 22 million copies of COD and GH games on 360, so they see PS3 as less valuable and thus want to increase that market.

They should just recognize that certain games fit one audience better than the other.

Capcom, for instance, has sold more units of key multiplats on PS3.

Until Activision is willing to sell their cash cow, COD4, as a greatest hit, any demand for a PS3 price drop is laughable.

Last edited by Fane1024 on 7/14/2009 8:01:07 PM

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Scarecrow
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 11:22:41 PM
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Haven't ever bought an Activision game <3

Nor a Bioware one
Hell, didn't even know that company existed 'till recently lol

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Ricochet
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 11:31:24 PM

I think it's due to the fact that Bioware only makes exclusives for the 360.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 11:43:17 PM

Ricochet, you are clueless. Bioware has released 2 console games ever. So get your head out of your ass.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 11:53:18 PM

Actually you're VERY wrong Shadow. They've released well over 6 console games.

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Ricochet
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:03:21 AM

@Shadow:

What exactly did you eat for lunch, I'm pretty sure it wasn't food. What the hell did I do to warrant such an insult? For a moderator, you're pretty unstable.

Last edited by Ricochet on 7/14/2009 12:04:34 AM

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:04:38 AM

Not just an insult but a blind one based on nothing but false information that ended up making him look stupid.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:05:53 AM

Ok there are actually 4. One for dreamcast 2 for Xbox and 1 for 360. my bad. Either way that argument is completely broken.

Only released Bioware games on consoles:
MDK2 - predated the Xbox brand (I had no idea this game was on Dreamcast)
KoTOR
Jade Empire - published by MS (forgot about this game's existence entirely)
Mass Effect - published by MS

Last edited by SHADOW on 7/14/2009 12:08:14 AM

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:11:08 AM

You've got be kidding me. You totally insult the guy even though you're actually the one that's wrong. You decide to follow up and instead of apologizing you inform us the argument is "broken" You have no class and you're still wrong, congratulations.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:14:31 AM

Where am I wrong? Go ahead tell me. I originally said 2, which after doing a quick research found out it was actually 4. Neither of the two I had forgotten help his argument. They have released 1 360 game which was published by Microsoft.

Where are the more than 6 you were talking about.?

Last edited by SHADOW on 7/14/2009 12:15:32 AM

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:23:53 AM

And yes, ricochet, I jumped down your throat. becuase you made a completely erroneous statement about one of the few great western RPG developers in the world.

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Byakko2009
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 2:55:29 AM

Bioware made MDK? Never knew. Maybe it's the fact that those games were so bland. Solid, but bland. I remember when I had that paperweight known as the Dreamcast, it was the only decent game there was to play. Funny, I love fighting games but software-wise the Dreamcast was atrocious to me. But I'm with Scarecrow still didn't know who the heck was Bioware until recently. *Yawn* Either way, I'd rather hear the big players like Konami, Namco, etc. to speak about the subject. They won't however. Why? Because their PR doesn't require to engage in these pointless out-cries. They know how to make solid software that sells.

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Ricochet
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 3:52:30 AM

@Shadow:

"And yes, ricochet, I jumped down your throat. becuase you made a completely erroneous statement about one of the few great western RPG developers in the world."

Technically I'm right, I am responding directly to Scarecrow's statement to why he hasn't heard of Bioware before. I stated that it was simply because "it has made games exclusively for the 360" (which is correct). I was referring to this present timeline . Nowhere in my statement did I say Bioware "never" made games previously nor did I even try to downplay "one of the few great western RPG developers in the world."

From the way you responded I can see that you assumed I DIRECTLY attacked the said company like a no-brainer and your so-called moderating instincts was thrown off-course as if you desperately needed a fanboy fix. I'd let this go if this was an "everyday" forum/comment section, but as I consider this a prestige PSX fansite, I now question their choices to who keeps tabs on their site.

@LimitedVertigo:

Thanks for coming into my defense.

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xnonsuchx
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 7:19:50 AM

Activision made some of the best Atari 2600 games...yes, I'm old enough to remember the original PITFALL being COOL! ;-)

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kevinater321
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 10:44:14 AM

@ ricochet, i recall you saying that they ONLY make exclusive 360 games, here let me quote you. "I think it's due to the fact that Bioware only makes exclusives for the 360." anyway who cares how many they made.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 11:44:04 AM

@kevinater321

He was referring to the current generation, I think that was pretty clear.

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King James
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:01:29 PM

Wow!! Scarecrow, I'm disappointed in you.

@Shadow
Thanks for defending Bioware unlike the oblivious.

Last edited by King James on 7/14/2009 12:09:19 PM

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:40:11 PM

You've to be kidding me, he's a moderator and he personally attacked a poster on inaccurate information. This is a sad day.

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King James
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:24:51 PM

Shadow does his job and that all I expect from a moderator. If that moderator happens to have a strong opinion, thats cool with me as long as the job gets done.

All 3 of your guys (Shadow, Vertigo, and Ricochet) were wrong. Shadow and Vertigo was wrong about the quantitative data, and Ricochet just (deliberately or unintentional) misspoke. Bioware has initially made ONE (count it, ONE) game exclusive for the 360 and that was Mass Effect. Mass Effect went PC after EA got em. At least Shadow did the research, clarified.

Bioware is a PC developer that had their 1st legitimate success in the console market last gen with KOTOR and Jade Empire. They made 2 xbox games and one 360 game. They always make great games and if a moderator (or anyone for that matter) wants to tell off someone that speaks falsely about that Bioware, I have NO problem with that. NONE.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:57:23 PM

Shadow used the word "ass", you forgot to mention that.

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King James
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 2:43:21 PM

haha, yea but I did say strong opinion.

Last edited by King James on 7/14/2009 2:50:08 PM

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 3:43:08 PM

Well what?

You guys expect me to actually known Bioware?
You've got to be kidding me!

In fact, those who expect me to even CARE 'bout Bioware are morons.

And Activision has NEVER EVER in my life as a gamer attracted me with any of their games.

They're not the kinda games I like. Mostly western games.

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kevinater321
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 4:12:45 PM

i like you limited vertigo, you are fun to argue agains compaired to stupid fanboys, you actually know what your talking about and when you don't it is very convincing and seems like you do. I will enjoy disagreeing with you in the near future :)

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King James
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 4:35:22 PM

@Scarecrow

Well Scarecrow, I've read almost all your comments and you portray yourself as an intelligent, well-seasoned, and well-informed gamer. So yea, I assumed you knew of one of the best western developers. I guess Bioware just slipped threw the cracks, huh?

If u got a spare $10, you should consider buying KOTOR for PC. Great RPG, greater game.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 11:43:14 PM

@kevinater321

Thank you, I enjoy reading your comments. There is a reason I keep coming to this site more than any other related to video games; well two reasons. Ben and Arnold's articles and the interesting conversations by us posters. A majority of the people on here seem informed.

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bigrailer19
Monday, July 13, 2009 @ 11:57:51 PM
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Bioware is doing Dragon Age, which will be on all 3 consoles, so yes they did do pc and 360 titles in the past. But they have ventured forth to discover the PS3 and its developing potentials, and that is why they are sticking up for the PS3 in this instance.

I think Bioware realizes Sony's millions of users and Sony's mass potential as pointed out in the article, and there is no reason to disregard that.

So kudos to them for actually being a positive, part of the gaming industry, and they have found not necessarily a new supporter but a stronger one.

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Bugzbunny109
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:22:12 AM
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Going to sell my psp, ps3, ps2 and ps1 for this. Might need to sell some of my games too :D I am just kidding; but seriously, who is going to shed alot of cash for this?

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:24:43 AM

what are you talking about?

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Masterofallz
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:27:38 AM

I think he posted in the wrong article. I *think* he was supposed to post this in the night goggle thing.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 3:36:41 AM

you kids and your drugs.

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RadioHeader
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 4:41:01 PM

Never mind, bugzbunny. I've forgotten the topic anyway with all the bickering. So I'd just like to add that inFamous rules! ...my first platinum :)

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Bugzbunny109
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 5:37:21 PM

LOL I posted on the wrong article. Sorry..... And I am not on crack Worldendswithme!

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 2:41:21 AM
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@maestrofallz loooooolllll

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N a S a H
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 5:27:06 AM
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Wow guys, what the hell is this? It's almost as if all of PSXE's maturity has gone down the drain. Please, calm down. No need for it.

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www
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 6:19:38 AM

Am surprised...

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 10:12:58 AM

The Eye of Moron has noticed PSX, and is trying both the subtle trolling and the obvious trolling. You may have noticed the more obvious trolling in the comments about Ben's Editorial asking for suggestions of what his dust magne...360 can play.

In other comments sections we are seeing a slightly more subtle attack, but in either case it is disruptive. I find that the Eye of Moron can be identified by it's irrational stubbornness, an utter lack of logic, and irrational argument. The Eye of Moron must be resisted by any and all, it's influence can turn ordinary, logical, rational, level headed people into raving lunatics. It's like the Dark side of the force. To quote Yoda (I know it's cheesy to quote a fictional character, but the statement is actually pretty much a truism), anyway to quote Yoda, "Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering."

Questions for the Eye of Moron.... What do you fear? Does it make you angry? Do you react with anger? Do you fear being wrong? Does your anger drive hate? Will that hatred make you feel better, or make you suffer? Will your hate make others suffer?

Summer time is the silly season on the Net, the days are hot and long, tempers fray and too many young fingers type with faux maturity behind anonymous names. The Eye of Moron is strong in the dog days of summer...

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:31:10 PM

Are you asking me out?

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Highlander
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:23:31 PM

Sorry, did I mention you or anyone by name? I have made no accusations, if I felt someone had crossed the line in particular, I would have stated it.

I you choose to pickup what I said and apply it to yourself, I cannot help that. But I can assure you, if I have something to say to you, I will say it.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:49:12 PM

I didn't think you were referring to me, I was simply trying to lighten the air. It's a videogame site, not a spy movie.

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Fane1024
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 8:09:02 PM

@ LV

I laughed. Mission accomplished.

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tanner1
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 6:54:34 AM
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How about lowering the price of MW2 then ay? why is it £44.99? I have never payed that 4 a ps3 game. You can pre order GT5, and Uncharted 2 for £32 in the U.K, as far as im concerned they can stick their 10 hour game up their ass!

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GlavinChris
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 8:00:28 AM
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This is good to hear from Bioware! Hopefully this means that from hear on out they will support the PS3. Go Dragon Ages!

-The Glavin

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Arvis
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:02:14 PM

Freaking sweet! The Glavin is finally here! THE Glavin! And he's stea- er, uh, BORROWING my sign-off!

This is a great day!

-Arvis

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GlavinChris
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:17:48 PM

This has been my sign-off for many many years, hope to have some good conversations with ya. ;)

-The Glavin

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Arvis
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 3:05:06 PM

Yeah, mine too. Although I never put "the" in front of my handle. I wish I had thought of that first!

Although, if you ever read any Gamefly User Reviews of games by someone called "TheArvis", that's me... although I haven't written very many.

-Arvis

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GlavinChris
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 @ 7:49:02 AM

I will have to check you out then!

-The Glavin

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CH1N00K
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 10:39:26 AM
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The reason Activision wants Sony to lower it's price is so that more people will buy the crap they're shilling in their "special" edition games. Look at their games coming out, Modern Warfare 2 sounds like it's going to be overpriced for a few hours of offline play. And if you buy the "prestige" edition? That's going to cost half as much as a PS3! and Guitar Hero 5? Oh please let me buy another plastic drum kit for way too much money!

I bought the first Rockband (I know, it's not activision) when it first came out for my girlfriend to play. Now the band pieces just sit in the corner gathering dust, except for the odd times we have people over for a few drinks. I didn't bother wasting my money on any of the other music games, they get tiresome and repetitive too soon. Although I did get a real guitar to try and learn how to play it, and it mostly gathers dust now too..lol.

As for Call of Duty? Well I passed on that experience. I've got enough online shooters sitting on the shelf that I don't play enough of. I've been debating whether I'm going to buy MW2 or not but I'm leaning more and more on passing on it and just getting MAG, if I bother at all. Maybe it's just me, but I think I'm to the point now that a FPS, is a FPS..and I tire of them really quickly. Give me some good RPG's, Another few flight games like Hawx and a few more Racers like Burnout and GT and I could probably live happily ever after without another FPS..until Resistance 3, because I hate an unfinished story..lol. Looking at my shelf of games, I realize I don't own anything by Activision...and you know what? I still sleep really great at night, except for the nights that I'm up late playing one of my other games..

Sure it would be nice to see a cheaper PS3..but do I regret having paid as much for my 80 gigger as I did? Nope. And if Activision is complaining that there isn't enough of an install base on the PS3,(what 23 millions is a small number now? ) what do they need to worry about? The people that aren't playing their stuff on a Sony are paying to play it on an MS product.

Last edited by CH1N00K on 7/14/2009 10:47:10 AM

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GlavinChris
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 10:49:26 AM

I agree for the most part - most of activision's games aren't the greatest. However COD is one of the top console FPS multiplayer game on the system.

-The Glavin

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CH1N00K
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 10:50:17 AM

After reading my last few posts..I'm realizing that I've gone into some rants lately...Must be the summer and Eye of Moron..lol. Or maybe I'm just getting old and cranky..next thing you know I'll be sitting with my laptop in a rocking chair on my front porch, yelling at you darn kids to get off my bandwidth...

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GlavinChris
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 11:37:06 AM

I'm right there with you, those kids and their Rock music better get off of our lawns.

-The Glavin

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:25:01 PM

here here ch1nook, everyone knows COD is huge for it's online, but hey we got MAG coming for that and I don't even care much for online play. It's fun for 15 minutes at a time but squeezing a short COD onto a DVD is just kind of lame in this day and age.

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coverton341
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 11:19:10 AM
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Wow guys! After reading about 80% of the posts in this thread it is obvious that either
a) a lot of us need to take a nap or,
b) .....Well that's about all I have.

I mean seriously there is a lot of temper flying around in here today.

As for the topic at hand, I feel like Bioware has the right mind set. They understand that yeah the PS3 has a large user base, it may not be the same size as the 360 but in all honesty THIRD PARTY EXCLUSIVES ARE BAD IDEAS for making money. I like Rockstar's idea on exclusives to introduce a new IP. I think Activision is just trying to do exactly what the article states. They are trying to put a little uncomfortable squeeze on Sony so that the console has a higher user base by the time all the high profile games start dropping later this year so that they have as much coverage as possible. Is it fair to want a company to take losses on their hardware so you can make more money off your software? No. Is it the way of a capitalistic system where the bottom line is what matters to a company? Yes.

Activision is just doing what any company does they are trying to make as much as possible. Bioware is just doing the same thing. They are saying by cutting out a system you lose money, and that's a fact. Sony is just doing the same thing as well, they are trying to stay profitable by not having to take high losses on every system sold. It's the way of the gun.

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King James
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:19:09 PM

lol..take a nap. I'd refer to Highlander's theory about the Eye of Moron.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:41:02 PM

Anyone with a conflicting opinion that likes to see both sides to a story will be labeled and silenced by the blind majority.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:25:29 PM

I always need a nap.

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King James
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 11:54:52 AM
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This is why I believe ALL game developer's founders/directors/head-person should ALL be doctors. =D

Bioware, FTW!
& Dr. Greg and Dr. Ray FTW!

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 12:35:38 PM

Anytime a professor demands to be called Dr. I get pissed.

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King James
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:26:01 PM

The Bioware founders are profs?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:26:57 PM

me too vertigo, buncha douches. I had a principle back in highschool that wouldn't even respond to you unless you addressed her as Doctor. I think you have to be mentally deficient to be a college professor as well. Strangest bunch I ever dealt with.

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 7/14/2009 1:27:31 PM

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 2:17:15 PM

No, the Doctors at Bioware both obtained medical degrees before founding Bioware.

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King James
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 2:47:10 PM

I was being funny. Vertigo's reply seemed random and misplaced so I asked a facetious question.

and did World just call my sister retarded? and a douch? lol

Last edited by King James on 7/14/2009 2:49:01 PM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 4:58:02 PM

only if your sister refuses to respond to her own name and only "doctor," in that case yes. As far as professors go, one must admit they are often a strange lot, same with psychiatrists.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 6:23:31 PM

and dentists. dentists give me the creeps.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 1:58:20 PM
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@ King

No, your post simply reminded me of school.

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Alienange
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 10:12:58 PM
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I think people are misunderstanding what Kotick was really saying. All he was trying to say was that he's a complete jackass that's feeling the economic pressure and trying to put the blame on someone else.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, July 14, 2009 @ 11:47:46 PM
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@Scarecrow

I didn't expect you to care about BioWare but I did expect you to at least know of them and their games since they've been around for over a decade. You're missing out if you don't try out some of their games.

BTW I was offended by your moron comment.

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kreate
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 @ 2:29:10 AM

what's ur psn? or gamertag?

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TEG3SH
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 @ 7:34:17 AM
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dont be hating on bioware they are the makers of mass-effect .

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, July 15, 2009 @ 1:47:52 PM
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The short, sweet, simple breakdown of Greg Zeschuk's messege is....

"People who live a hollow life in a glass bubble,
should'nt be playing with large boulders anywhere within their own confined living quarters"!!!!

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