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Attention: Stop Whining About Sequels

It's the "l33t" thing to do these days: whine, moan and complain bitterly about every last sequel that comes down the pike. If you complain enough, you'll be seen as a seer of sorts; a "true gamer" who stands atop a rickety soapbox and lectures everyone on the importance of original ideas. "Innovate or grow stale and die," they say. ...yeah, maybe these people haven't noticed that the gaming industry is nothing like film. Sequels tend to rule.

Why? Because the gaming industry continues to advance forward in both technical and artistic areas; there are many ways to improve and in comparison to movies, games are still young. We've got a long ways to go, so of course a sequel in the PS2 era to an original title in the PS1 era will be better in a variety of ways. I'm not saying that better graphics or more hardware potential automatically translates to better quality, but let's face it: it usually does. Hey, I'm one of those old-school gamers who still thinks Super Mario Bros. is one of the greatest games ever made, even though I know dozens - if not hundreds - of titles in recent history have surpassed it in every conceivable way. We all have to admit that nostalgia plays a very large role in our "Greatest Ever" lists; objectivity is always difficult to embrace when the rose-tinged memories of our childhoods interfere.

But if we put all that aside, we should probably accept the glaring truth: a sequel in the world of video games is often bigger and better than the first title. Plain and simple. Granted, long-running franchises can begin to grow stagnant and backtrack along the quality progression line, but there's a damn good reason why the best games in the world have a number in the title. I could make a list but I don't have to; we all know what games are on that list, and you can check any resource you wish. Go to Metacritic or GameRankings and find the top 50 or 100 titles ever, and see how many aren't original IPs. Check sales charts. Just look at this year, for crying out loud; it's very likely that Game of the Year candidates will be Killzone 2, Uncharted 2: Among Thieves, Halo 3: ODST, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2, and if a good thing happens, Gran Turismo 5. Again, in very long-running franchises like maybe Madden or Final Fantasy, one can certainly argue over the last four or five installments.

But for the most part, sequels have provided us with some of the finest gaming experiences in history, which - strangely enough - separates us more from the movie industry than almost anything else. Yes, I want the original IPs, too - Heavy Rain, The Last Guardian, Alan Wake, Demon's Souls, Brutal Legend, etc. - and we absolutely need them to maintain originality and a forward-thinking philosophy in the industry. But we do have them and while it's easy to pick on developers and publishers for producing "just another sequel" to keep profits high, let's not pretend that sequels to great games aren't usually representative of more greatness.

9/1/2009 Ben Dutka

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Comments (86 posts)

Nynja
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 12:47:06 PM
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Wow, what sprang this?

Side note; I agree with you. Usually a sequel will bring the best parts of the previous installment and enhance the experience with new and innovative features that gamers asked for.

Now, making a sequel for Lair? That might not be such a great idea. UNLESS, it was completely rewritten by a team that hasn't been stuck in the Star Wars universe for the past decade. It really did feel like a mid-evil Tie-Fighter game.

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N a S a H
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:34:10 PM

Everyone whining about the COD and GH games?

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ThePearlJamer
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:57:04 PM

They should get the team who made Haze to make Lair 2, then get Valve to develop the xbox port...

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kevyd09
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 12:49:26 PM
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if the 1st game wasnt good then there wouldnt be a sequel which, usually tends to be better than the 1st game because gamers wants the nest installment to be bigger, better, and more fun and also gives the devs a chance to fix things that wernt great in the 1st game

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Imagi
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 12:53:03 PM
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Sequels are good, they often build and improve upon a game engine, focus more on the fun gameplay aspects of the previous games, and often flesh out the story.

They should not overstay their welcome though, like any form of story telling/entertainment, it should know when to end. The devs should resist the publishers trying milk the consumers over a profitable games, milking them till it gets sour.

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frylock25
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 12:55:51 PM

halo = milked

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Hezzron
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:17:21 PM

Tony Hawk = Milked

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Banky A
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 11:19:39 PM

Farm cow = milked.

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neighber
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 12:54:30 PM
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Ure right about that, but i always wondered why great games that dont eva get a remake or sequel, my fav the legends of dragoons, or killer instinct. why? :(

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 12:58:40 PM

Sales. If a game doesn't sell well, and isn't critically acclaimed, it will be unlikely to get a sequel.

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Thrill Kill
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 12:59:07 PM

there was a killer instinct 2...

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frylock25
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 12:59:40 PM

i thought there was more than one killer instinct? or is that just ports of one game? or am i just wrong, i thought it was on more than one system... i cant remember maybe i should stop smokin so much lol

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mexgeo86
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 2:04:17 PM

i agree too on Legend of Dragoon, the original sets it up so that they can and SHOULD do a prequel to it.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 12:56:48 PM
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I like sequels.

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neighber
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:00:45 PM
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i wonder what u would call final fantasy series, its not a sequel or a remake hmmm a bottomless bag of buttered popcorn yumm ^^ lol

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frylock25
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:12:41 PM

if were talkin a bottomless bag, i dont know popcorn to be the first thing i think of...

final fantasy is a cool concept of a sequel and new idea

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Victor321
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:15:10 PM

mmm Popcorn XD

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ThePearlJamer
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 2:01:59 PM

mmm...Final Fantasy

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kevinater321
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 4:07:31 PM

mmm...peanuts

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556pineapple
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:04:15 PM
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I whole-heartedly agree, with the exception of the last few Medal of Honor games and now (sadly) the majority of the Sonic the Hedgehog games. Those ones need some serious overhauling. But some of my favorite games this gen are MGS4, RE5, and GTA IV. Uncharted 2, and GT 5 among others seem to be promising. As long as they seem to be promising, keep the sequels coming.

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Karosso
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:05:33 PM
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Just give me "Team ICO's trilogy ultimate collectors Edition" containing "ICO" and "SotC" remastered in 1080p,plus "TLG" and I won't ask Santa for anything else for a long time.
OK I might have to ask for new underwear if that actually happens ;-)

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 2:48:32 PM

FUCK YA

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kevinater321
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 4:08:31 PM

:O !!!

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DarkManX
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:06:01 PM
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some titles that a few play and love but don't have initial sale numbers to warrant a sequel.But look at games like killzone and then killzone 2...in the end you can totally revitalize a title if it is remade in such a fashion...but titles like Uncharted and God of War I'm sure the 3rd GoW will make my argument for me...the 1st one was awesome and the second was even more awesome IMO.

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Karosso
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:06:15 PM
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Just my example of sequels that ruled!

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Deadman
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:29:06 PM
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Sequels are the cash cow they are what keep us in the games. When COD:MW2 comes out and Activision and IW make thier production costs back, the profit will end up going to some fresh IP or new development studio.

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KBsocks
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:32:36 PM
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Last Guardian is a spiritual sequel to that of ICO and SotC so I guess it doesn't count. Sometimes sequels ruin a game and sometimes it doesn't. I'm still praying for a new Xenosaga although at this point it's near impossible.

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www
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:34:40 PM
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Ben, Thanks for making my work easier. I couldn't have said it better.

I know this article goes to some VERY people on this site, who have been whining too much about everything, and I dunno why they even have a PS3 when they should be playing their PS1s or PS2s. You know yourselves.

Heck, there are even people whining about the UPDATE 3.00 also,hmph!

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Fane1024
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 11:40:13 PM

If that last bit was directed at me, because I said I didn't like the update SO FAR when I posted to let everyone know it was live, I wasn't whining. I was offering an assessment (albeit a hasty one). I never said I wasn't happy to get the update (nor did anyone else that I saw). I love getting firmware updates; that's why I was checking when I did. I always advocate for MORE firmware updates. There are many features in 3.00 that I like and, for only the second time, some I don't.

People voted me down because they disagreed (as they should); I just hope they read what I actually wrote and didn't assume I was being a curmudgeon.

Oh, and you kids, get off my lawn.

BTW, I agree with everything Ben said about sequels.


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Dogswithguns
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:36:16 PM
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Yeah, really, stop your complaining.lol

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:48:18 PM

Stop complaining about the complaints. Really, this complaining is getting out if hand. Someone should complain. Is there a complaints department?

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Nynja
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 4:04:41 PM

lol

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kevinater321
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 4:12:12 PM

Stop complaining about people who complain about the people who complain about complaining. wow tripy.

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tes37
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 4:12:42 PM

Highlander I volunteer to file a complaint about the complaining as long as no one complains about it.

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 4:42:49 PM

Gah! All this complaining!

<Eric Cartman voice>
But Beeennnnnn.....! Please do something. They're all complaining.
</Eric>

:P

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Riku994
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:38:55 PM
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I think we can assume the top secret ps3 exclusive title is a sequel. Just sayin.

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CH1N00K
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 2:36:56 PM

That's what I was thinking when I read this article. If this article stemmed from that, that would mean that someone figured out what game it was, and then turned around and said they didn't want it.

But only Ben will know where this game originated from. And I have the feeling he won't tell us if it does have to do with the secret game.

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Frenchy17
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:41:28 PM
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Aren't we supposed to be gamers? Last time I checked, sequels equal more games which is good for gamers!

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Diggity Dan
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:46:50 PM
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If there's one thing that I hate, it's a sequel (like MGS4, Uncharted 2, God of War 2 and 3, Killzone 2, GT5, COD4 etc).

Also, I hate a guy in a blue suit...

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ThePearlJamer
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:58:48 PM

I'm leaning to the side that says you're kidding, but just because I'm not really sure and you didn't say so I'm thumbs-downing you...

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 6:08:53 PM

I'm leaning to the side that some people don't get the obvious while others are even less obtuse.

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ThePearlJamer
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 7:03:31 PM

Thanks for the input you f*cking genius...

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Diggity Dan
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 7:47:46 PM

[DENOTES SARCASM]

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 8:24:08 PM

Civility is a wondrous thing. Thank you.

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ThePearlJamer
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 9:22:26 PM

Civility?

You're gonna tell me about civility? I say that I didn't agree with his comment so I was thumbs-downing it and then you come in, trying to offend me and you straight up say that I'm obtuse a.k.a lacking intellect. Who's the wrong one here...well, I can sure say that next time I have an opinion I feel like sharing that I'll check with you first Hitler before I'm publically branded as an idiot...

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 11:17:41 PM

Yes, I did refer to civility.

"I didn't agree with his comment so I was thumbs-downing it and then you come in, trying to offend me and you straight up say that I'm obtuse a.k.a lacking intellect."

First of all, I apologize for your reaction but I did not attack you nor your intelect. The definition of obtuse states "not quick or alert in perception, feeling, or intellect; not sensitive or observant; dull" There are other definitions to this word but you will notice there is an "or" in the definition choices. I did make a comment, in general terms, about the lack of seeing things since this is all black text on a plain background.

"Who's the wrong one here...well, I can sure say that next time I have an opinion I feel like sharing that I'll check with you first Hitler before I'm publically branded as an idiot..."

Calling me Hitler would be a very quick assumption but I have neither Jewish nor German heritage, as far as I know, in my blood lines, but you couldn't have known that so I will hope that upon reading this, you will retract your assumption. I did not brand you as an idiot and I apologize that you took it that way.

I hope my replies above have helped to clarify my earlier statements and sorry for the additional comments but I did want to add this clarification to dispell any other negative beliefs that may be present by those that have read my comments. If you would like to carry this further, please contact me in the forums as that is a more appropriate venue. I will decline from further comment on this page, in this thread chain. Thank you for your time.

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Highlander
Wednesday, September 02, 2009 @ 2:14:22 AM

@ThePearlJammer

Godwin!

To quote the Economist, "a good rule in most discussions is that the first person to call the other a Nazi automatically loses the argument."

You, lose.

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SkantDragon
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 1:47:21 PM
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Sequels for games are different than for movies. In games, when it comes down to it, it's a new version of the program. V2.0 of a program tends to be better than V1.0.

I think that's the real factor that makes sequels in games different than sequels in movies.

Yet some of the same negative factors can still apply as for movies. So you end up with the story rehashed (perhaps badly), but the game itself is a newer, improved version. So some good and some bad.

Some games, like Gran Turismo, are not story driven and tend to do nothing but gain with each new and improved version.

I think what's really getting people to complain about sequels, however, is companies like EA which have decided they can use sequels as a cash cow by re-releasing the same essentially unchanged game over and over again on a yearly basis. Why go to the effort of building a new game from scratch when you can just dust off an old one, change a minor thing or two, update the copyright notice on it, and release it again?

I think what people really mean is they don't like _half assed sequels_ sold to them at full price.

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tlpn99
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 2:08:35 PM
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A sequel done badly, half complete, rushed to get it out on time can be a dissapointment to fans. When the true sequel hits though one thats been polished and got rid of as many flaws and bugs as possible how good is it ?

We have all seen the GOW3 trailer right ? How good does this game look ?

As Ben says though we need original fresh ideas to keep the industry moving on otherwise it will get stale. A good mixture of the 2 if possible please but you cant please everybody.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 2:33:28 PM
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I want a Super Mario Brothers 4 and I refuse to keep quiet about it.

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CH1N00K
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 2:38:32 PM

lol, didn't they show that at E3? It was some Super Mario, but where you could play with four players on screen at the same time and help each other through the levels.....oh wait I think it was called Mario Big Planet...lol

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 6:09:51 PM

You're thinking if New Super Mario Brothers Wii. Another way to milk things.

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 8:25:09 PM

I meant of* not if.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 2:34:39 PM
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Highlander has a point, you're complaining about complainers Ben. Play nice.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 2:42:01 PM
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"We've got a long ways to go, so of course a sequel in the PS2 era to an original title in the PS1 era will be better in a variety of ways. I'm not saying that better graphics or more hardware potential automatically translates to better quality, but let's ,face it: it usually does."

I dont agree with this fully, take Crash Bandicoot for example, Crash 1-3 & Team Racing are phenominal. Crash, The Wrath of Cortext was plain, Twinsanity was nice, but lacking and after that its just unmentionable.

But obviously some titles have advanced, Fallout 3 id a title which really benefitted from the current gen, along with Street Fighter IV.

As for MGS4, while its good and i loved it on my 1st play through, i get bored with it quick now, unlike 1-3 which i can play for hours, especially 2.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 2:49:25 PM

You're the reason I downloaded Siren and LOVED it. Just though I'd let you know.

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Vivi_Gamer
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 3:12:24 PM

Good for you, Siren is what Silent Hill: Homecoming should have been. Siren for me has been the most enjoyable game this gen.

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Kowhoho
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 3:24:24 PM

Best. Ending. Ever.

Howard Wright is my hero.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, September 02, 2009 @ 12:07:48 AM

Ultima, he did say "usually".

Also, Crash is a bit of an exception, as the newer games were made by a different developer. Sonic might be a better example for your position.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 3:03:16 PM
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In EVERYTHING there are exceptions

But for the most part sequels are great, and expanding an ip with sequels is always a good thing.

Where is this bullsh*t 'bout people not wanting sequels coming from?

There's a certain group of "new gamers" who are just here to whine and ruin the gaming industry.

Seriously, during SNES and ps1 era you'd never hear this kind of crap

"OMG don't make Mario or Zelda anymore"

WTF?

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Zemus101
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 3:31:57 PM
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I don't have time to go through all the comments on this page at the moment (Just picked up Uncharted and FF Dissidia) but I have to say that this is one of the best articles I've read on here in the couple years I've been coming here, I never thought of it this way... movies and games. So alike in many ways but so different in the ways you mentioned. Thanks Ben, you got me thinking.

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darxed
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 3:36:48 PM
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what really gets on my nerves is some so-called professional sites complaining about sequels... and mentioning every Final Fantasy as a sequel to Final Fantasy I... I mean, how can you be in the gaming business and not know that only Final Fantasy X-2 is a direct sequel, and that every other properly roman numbered game in the franchise is entirely different than the others?

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telly
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 3:46:58 PM
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Spot on, dude. I'd just add that the games industry does NOT get enough credit for being innovators. Gears of War, for example. Fantastic series in my eyes. Everyone whines now about the "space marines fighting aliens on another planet" sub-genre saturating the game landscape... but what came before Gears of War that played and felt anything like it? NOTHING. There's a million examples of this.

when the technology moves SO fast, and programmers are learning a TON of new things every time they go out, the game name, genre, character, etc. becomes the anchor. Almost everything else changes immensely over time.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, September 02, 2009 @ 12:12:27 AM

kill.switch? Not exactly the same, of course, but people act like Gears invented cover. I think even 24: The Game did cover before Gears.

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telly
Wednesday, September 02, 2009 @ 12:51:38 PM

Very true, though I would argue that's kind of my point. kill.switch came out, introduced a new idea (REALLY new at the time), another developer took that concept and expanded and improved on it greatly to create something new. Major innovations all around.

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Lotusflow3r
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 4:10:16 PM
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Sequels can be great of course but, i think what bothers the "whiners" (well, bothers me at least) is that originality is almost dead....in All industries.

I believe the game industry is picking back up slightly with the likes of Flower, The Last Guardian, Heavy Rain and the like but, we got a long way to go...

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outcelgeist
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 4:15:29 PM
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I pretty much agree except for Flashback's sequel... Fade to Black was horrible.

Same goes for Out of this World... Heart of the Alien was pretty damn atrocious.

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Lotusflow3r
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 5:47:04 PM

Thats great you liked Flashback and Out of this World/Another World!

Flashback is one of my favourite games. Truly was ahead of time. But, without Out of this World/Another World, Flashback would be none existent.

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tes37
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 4:23:56 PM
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Then we should drink a toast to "The End Of Whining About Sequels" and usher in a new age of "Whining About Prequels".

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Highlander
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 4:47:40 PM

Today is a good day to quell. Whether a pre-quell drink or a post-quell drink, we will drink enough to quell our doubts and calm our qualms about sequels.

OK, now my head hurts. Where's that drink?

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tes37
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 5:20:30 PM

LOL

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frostface
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 5:24:17 PM
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Without sequels we'd miss out on our favourite characters returning...best example Nathan Drake Uncharted 2.
Imagine a (gaming) world without the anticipation of getting into another adventure with a hero we've connected with in the previous outing.
Who wouldn't want another COD? Resistance? Killzone?
Sure we all love a new original but it's nice to feel like you're part of an ongoing story, or better still feeling that there could be a possible continuation when we finish that last closing scene of a gripping title.

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Ricochet
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 6:38:21 PM
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Uncharted 2??

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Highlander
Wednesday, September 02, 2009 @ 10:33:23 AM

Uncharted 2 Among Thieves

Hey, as far as I'm concerned sequels are fine with me, how about...

Uncharted 3 All That Glitters
Uncharted 4 Valley of The Kings
Uncharted 5 Lost In Plain Sight
Uncharted 6 Drake's Revenge
Uncharted 7 Secrets of The Raj
Uncharted 8 Treasures of The Han Dynasty
...
Uncharted 12 Drake's Return...

Sequels are as strong as the character and story make them. Games like Guitar Hero and Madden NFL don't have sequels, they have versions and revisions.

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fundando
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 6:49:22 PM
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Who is whining about sequels? I know I'm not.

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s360s
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 6:50:51 PM
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Well I'm a big Max Payne fan but the third one doesn't look good at all.

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TEG3SH
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 6:58:29 PM
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me liky sequels

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Sir Shak
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 9:08:55 PM
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Who is whining ? Last time I heard the list of most anticipated games consisted of mainly sequels .

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slackernz
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 9:09:16 PM
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I still think the original DMC was the best of the series

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KOSMOS111
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 9:50:22 PM
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To me if the game's has a good story and the ending doesnt lead up to a sequel then thats the way it is. You should go buy a differnt game.

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LowKey
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 9:57:07 PM
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Well, as far as sequels go, I think resistance 2 sucked, I mean who takes out a great feature in a game like 2 player campaign? or switches it from being able to carry all your weapons to only being able to carry 2? seems like they took a step backwards to me. Sequels can be good but not whent they take out features that people liked in the first one. Am I right?

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Banky A
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 11:25:12 PM

I loved it.

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Banky A
Tuesday, September 01, 2009 @ 11:25:34 PM
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*Grumble grumble crumble*

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___________
Wednesday, September 02, 2009 @ 3:05:06 AM
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they have a point in the fact of Guitar Hero.
i mean seriously 1 per 3 months, and there exactly the same but with new songs, that warrants $110 release? no thanks.
call of duty not so much, because theres 2 different teams working on them, and the last 2 were actually good.
one thing that i hate and seems to be getting worse is games been announced, than given a release date, than delayed 10 times between the original and final release date.
LA Noire for example they did a interview with IGN early last september and said the game will be out in 1 year.
1 year later is it out? no.
do we even have a rough release date? no.
do we have any gameplay videos? no.
do we have more than 1 video teaser? no.
do we have any previews of the game? no.
do we even know some of the characters names? no. not that i can remember.
i dont understand how the game is suppose to be out by now but we have absolutely no info on the game.
do me a favor developers from now on dont announce your game till its 2 years before expected release, and dont announce a release date till your 99% sure you will make the date.
a few weeks delay is fine but when it gets to months it gets annoying and when it gets to year or years thats when it really gets annoying.

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Robochic
Wednesday, September 02, 2009 @ 9:28:51 AM
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sequels are ok but just don't over do it... GH comes to mind...

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laharl
Wednesday, September 02, 2009 @ 3:23:14 PM
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There are sequels(MGS4,GTA4,KZ2,etc) and then there are cash cow ea/bungie/activision yearly iterations of what is basically the same game.More of the former less of the latter please.

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