Are We Overdoing It With All These "Hero" Installments?

It was and still is a legitimate phenomenon, but as we roll on into the latter part of this year, our heads are starting to spin. DJ Hero. Guitar Hero 5. Guitar Hero: Van Halen. And let's not forget the competition in the form of another Rock Band; The Beatles: Rock Band. I know the music-based genre has become a major cash cow but are we overdoing it?

Really, how many of these games can we have? Will the fans always faithfully respond to multiple releases, even those that release very close to one another? Thing is, I know a lot of Guitar Hero fans but not a one of them plans to buy all three GH titles that are on their way to store shelves before 2009 is out. They'll certainly get one of them, but is that enough? Perhaps what I'm really asking is, "how much does it cost the developers and publishers to pump out these titles?" Maybe this is like "Grease;" a tiny overhead followed by truckloads of money that translates to insane profit. After all, we're not talking about cutting-edge technology in terms of graphics, and let's face it, the mechanical foundation was set in place a long time ago. We've got new instruments and new music, but how we play these games is always the same (essentially). There's no doubt it was a fantastic idea to start with, but really...this is starting to feel like Pokemon, or something.

Up until this point, the barrage wasn't really evident; the launches weren't so close together. But now, it's really obvious that there are more than a few titles scheduled for the next few months, and I'm not sure that even the fans are appreciative. Everyone else is just rolling their eyes. It makes perfect business sense to build on a clearly lucrative concept but there always seems to come a time when we all just have to say, "okay, enough." Either spread these out a little more or just take a break for a while. We have to assume that even the most ardent Hero fan has to work every now and then.

9/7/2009 10:04:16 PM Ben Dutka

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Jawknee
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 10:24:03 PM
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Duh.

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Xra897
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 10:56:38 PM

ye dude

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mackid1993
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:09:40 PM

i agree

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Hezzron
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 10:26:10 PM
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I like to play Bargain Hero. I've never paid more than $30 for these games with accessories. They are fun with a few friends.

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Titch1794
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 4:11:55 AM

Sounds lika a good game. :)

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napoleon85
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 10:27:27 PM
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I agree. I have GH world tour, and was the first one I got. It was pretty fun and still is. However, I'm not sure Im getting another game of this type (redundant) any time soon.

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godsman
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 10:30:13 PM
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I don't see any reason to purchase the "NEW" guitar hero games. They are almost identical to previous iterations. I have not seen any new features that are worth the purchase. The new game disc doesn't allow full BC to older downloads. You will just end up purchasing most of your library again. When the the guitar hero DLC are continually growing, what is the point in buying a new disc where you might not like all the songs?

GHIII was great, but afterwards they just killed it. If future Rockband games allow me to transfer existing songs over, i can just purchase a used game and keep building my library.

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JofaMang
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 10:36:09 PM
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Scalable franchises like these have very little overhead after the initial releases have been developed.

It costs them very very little to make new ones, thus the variability in titles (DJ, VH, Beatles, Metallica etc) as they don't need the volume the previous titles enjoyed, and can cater to more specific audiences.

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shadowpal2
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 10:40:04 PM
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The only guitar hero anyone needs is Guitar Hero II. That's enough as it is. All the other spin off stuff is just ridiculous. As for Rock Band...you just need Rock Band. If you don't have a console...but you do have a PSP - enjoy Rock Band: Unplugged.

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Fane1024
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 6:29:58 AM

Seriously, if you get only one RB game, get RB2. Everything is improved except for some odd omissions in the interface (which HMX is supposedly fixing in a patch, if it ever comes).

On topic, there are definitely too many of these games this year. Ben didn't even mention GH: Metallica, Band Hero, or LEGO Rock Band by name.

What did you expect from the studio who brought you 421 Tony Hawk games?

Last edited by Fane1024 on 9/8/2009 6:38:56 AM

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 10:53:56 PM
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Never understood the fun in these games. I find them boring as hell and a waste of time. I'd much rather sit down and explore a new world filled with interesting characters and a great storyline than stand in front of my tv with a plastic guitar pushing buttons in as the screen tells me to.

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jdt1981
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:04:14 PM

Couldn't agree more...

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Zemus101
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:09:21 PM

Yeah, but if you really ..truly love music and games, then it can be heaven. Also, think of how much a game like Tetris has been played over the years, what's the point of playing a puzzle game? To get good at it, to get a high score. Well ...GH is a puzzle game, but with great music. Obviously depending on your tastes.

Last edited by Zemus101 on 9/7/2009 11:10:49 PM

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archs13
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:13:26 PM

@zemus101

im sorry zemus101 but i think if a person really loves to play games then that person would buy a game with a different genre, engine, story, characters, soundtrack, experience (i could go on....) rather than buying a game that involves listening to music.

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Zemus101
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:17:18 PM

Don't make me feel like I'm the only one that absolutely loves Guitar Hero :P Because I'm not. I love music, and I play a lot of games. Guitar Hero is great to play for an hour when I can't find anything else that I feel like playing. When I want to listen to music, I'll actually feel like I'm playing it, and it still sounds great.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:54:22 PM

GH is not a puzzle game. It's a rhythmic game. Tetris is FAR more complex than GH and it's over 20 years old.

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Fane1024
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 6:48:21 AM

@Limited

You never dreamed of being a rock star? That's the point of RB: feeling like you're playing the songs without the inconvenient business of actually learning a real instrument.

The first time the crowd starts singing along with you is magical.

If you only played GH, I can see how you wouldn't get it; it didn't feel as "right" to me.

Last edited by Fane1024 on 9/8/2009 6:49:58 AM

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archs13
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 7:07:38 AM

ok maybe i'm just pissed that they abandoned the frequency and amplitude series haha.

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Cpt_Geez
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:05:48 PM
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One word to sum it all up "yes" I'm so sick and tired of all these hero games ugh.

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archs13
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:06:16 PM
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i was gonna try a guitar hero game but i never really got to buying one.. and then i noticed that they're making more guitar hero games just by changing the songs only, that's when i said no thanks.

it's just like the saw movies.. i was gonna buy a dvd of saw one (i've never ever seen a saw movie) until i heard the news that they're making a sixth SAW movie.

i guess it's like they're overextending the whole series just by adding stuff, without innovation or a 'new' feature, for a new game price. waste of money in my opinion.

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Zemus101
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:07:46 PM
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I started playing a little more than a year ago with GH3, was one of the first games I bought for my ps3. I bought World Tour just after last xmas and still play it almost daily today. I want to get Metallica, but only when it's cheaper. I also want to get GH5 asap because I love all the changes they made, and the song list rocks imo. I don't see where they can take the series next, but I'm all for more and more GH games. No one is forced to buy them, but options should be nice right? I can't grasp the reason why people get upset over games being released.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:38:54 PM

For starters it means less development resources available for games that actually matter to that person. Think of all the time, money, people spent creating these games. I will never benefit from any of it, instead I'd much rather see those resources spent on a game I would play.

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Zemus101
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:44:18 PM

Okay, you don't know that as fact, but also ..that's very selfish man. What about the people like me (and it obviously sells very well, they keep making the damn things) that love the games, why would you want us to go without? This is how I listen to my music (most of the time) and even spend time with friends and family this way as well. We get an entire band going of all ages playing songs that they love.

Last edited by Zemus101 on 9/7/2009 11:45:11 PM

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:49:49 PM

You've got to be kidding me. I play video games for entertainment, I think I'm allowed to be selfish and consider the best possibilities of maximizing the potential of my entertainment. With your logic I'm supposed to sit here and twiddle my thumbs due to lack of games out there I enjoy but at least have the happy thought that somewhere you're having a blast with rock band. That's insanity. When it comes to my entertainment via media I'm going to be crystal clear in regards to what I like and what I think should be done to maximize my entertainment.

Oh and what don't I know as fact?

Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 9/7/2009 11:51:08 PM

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Zemus101
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:59:38 PM

Guy, what's to stop somebody from saying the same thing about any game series out there? doesn't that make it pointless then to think like that? I don't understand what you're saying exactly. You don't like Guitar Hero, that's fine. But it's insanity that I'm supposed to be fine with whatever game are out there that I don't like? There will always be games that people don't like (obviously doesn't just apply to games) But to deprive millions of people that enjoy it just so that you can... maybe... have something you enjoy sooner? That just doesn't seem right :P Life is short, for everyone... I would rather everyone else play their Modern Warfare (Can't think of any other game lol I really have nothing against shooters, there just are a lot of em) and love every minute of it, then wish they stopped making those so I can play more Guitar Hero. I'm hoping someone can give me a really good reason (or if everyone agrees with yours maybe) that they don't like having more Guitar Hero games for sale. Because we're not being forced to buy the stuff. Hell, I've never even seen a Guitar Hero commercial in my entire life.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 12:06:22 AM

I already explained in quite obvious words that by the continued development of Guitar Hero and games like it I feel deprived of games I might actually enjoy by the developer. I'm simply voicing my opinion (like everyone else does around here) I didn't type my thoughts and in the same breath expect the world to all of a sudden follow my command. I simply gave you a very logical reason for why people would have a problem with Guitar Hero continuing down the pipeline with what seems like an endless supply of versions. I don't get why it's so hard for you to understand.

BTW I don't care if 5 billion people LOVE Guitar Hero, I despise the game and games like it and since I play videogames to have fun I do believe it's common logic to side with my own personal tastes.

Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 9/8/2009 12:07:13 AM

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Zemus101
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 12:17:41 AM

Come on, no hostility. But um... is that really what everyone thinks? Because I've been hearing this "Guitar Hero bad" thing for awhile now, and I felt safest to bring up how I don't understand it here lol Seems like everyone here feels the same way. But it's just because they think that if this group of programmers weren't working on Guitar Hero, they would be making other games that those people might like? Like I said, that would make sense as long as you speak for everyone. That's all I asked for was some answers. It seems like it's not the same if someone asked about some shooter games. "There are too many FPS!" I think everyone would just do the opposite as they are doing here? Just say that the person has no idea what they are talking about or something :P

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Jed
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 12:27:16 AM

I'm with Zemus on this one. Many many people really love th GH games. Just because you dont like a certian game doesnt mean it is a total waste. Acticision is spending a lot of money on these games, yes, but they are making a hell of a lot more than they spend. It's called busniess. With all the money they are making, they can have more people to work on more games. They are also more likely to try out new games that they wouldnt have tried when they had less money.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 12:42:52 AM

Zemus if you disliked my favorite genre and wished less developers developed those type of games I wouldn't have a problem. It's your opinion and your entitled to it. I'm not trying to get hostel, just making sure you understand where I'm coming from. I'm sure there are those that enjoy GH (clearly since it continues to expand)

Jed whose to say a different genre of game wouldn't make the same amount if not more than GH thus insuring growth within the company's game divisions.

Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 9/8/2009 12:46:02 AM

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Jed
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 1:22:27 AM

The chances of one company having two different franchises as wildly successful as guitar hero at one time are slim to none.

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N a S a H
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 5:10:02 AM

Wow LimitedVertigo, why don't you just STFU and read what you're saying.

I can't believe you think because Activision are spending money on GH, there won't be any games that you like. You just sound like another Activision hating twat. Get over it. They make good games. People enjoy them.

You like RPG's I'm guessing? Stuff like that? I'm not into RPG's but I'm not here telling people I wish they'd stop making Final Fantasy games so there could be more Guitar Hero's.

Seriously, get over yourself. SELFISH

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 10:43:52 AM

N a S a H I when did I ever say the presence of GH results in me having zero games to play? I was simply pointing out that if the developer didn't create GH the probabilty of them creating a game I might enjoy increases. You need to read what I write.

Oh no, I'm selfish when it comes to the games I like, boo fu(ben would end up stealing my ck)ing who!

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Deleted User
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:08:41 PM
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Activision is really overdoing it, haven't they head of oversaturation? Put something out there too much and people will get sick of seeing it.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:51:55 PM

You're spot on, I can think of only one thing that refuses to follow this trend. PORN

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:09:53 PM
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Am I the only one who gets totally creeped out by the people in these games?

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Banky A
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:15:47 PM

Nooosir.

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Jed
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 12:28:43 AM

Nope. I was freaked out by the singer in GH3. He looked like a muppet.

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Banky A
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:15:25 PM
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Yessssir.

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dso8515
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:20:07 PM
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Between me and the rest of my family we've had all the Guitar Hero's and both Rock Bands. They're fun to play in a group, and personally I've found that playing them has increased my appreciation of music.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:39:35 PM

I dislike the sound of a guitar, there I said it.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 1:11:51 AM

You need a new avatar dude.

!!Thug life!!

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Scarecrow
Monday, September 07, 2009 @ 11:45:04 PM
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Waste of time series

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Jed
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 12:40:06 AM
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I have guitar hero 3 and Metallica. That is really plenty for me. I do think all the games that they are pumping out are overkill. But I don't really have a problem with it.

There are a lot of people out there that want to buy every GH game that comes out, so why should they stop making them?

Seriously, how many of you out there would stop selling something that is almost guaranteed to bring in substantial profit.

I guess what I am trying to say here is, buy the games you like, and let other people buy what they like. If the games start to become truly bad, people will stop buying them and that will be that.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 12:44:56 AM

They should stop making them because I see the entire genre as a waste, their existence has a conflict with my personal tastes. I understand there are people that enjoy the genre. There are people that like Canadian bacon, I hate the stuff and would be fine with it no longer being in existence.

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Jed
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 6:03:59 AM

Why do you make comments on this site when you are the only thing you care about?

We come to this site to share conversation and our opinions with each other, and say why we feel that way.

You come here to and reply to every body's posts just to disagree. We already know what your self-centered opinion is and we don't care. So do us all a favor and just shut up. We don't want to see you troll our comments anymore.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 9:14:14 AM

I agree with plenty of people on here, just because I don't agree with you or several others does not mean I'm in conflict with EVERYONE. Stop complaining because I have a differing opinion than yours, grow up.

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Jed
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 2:53:09 PM

you think that games you don't like shouldn't be made, and you're telling me to grow up?

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 3:21:42 PM

I NEVER said any game I don't like should not be made. I was referring to the plastic guitar games. Everything I've been discussing relates to Guitar Hero and only began after someone asked why someone would be against the game. Excuse me for being respectful and answering someone's questions and giving my own opinion on a related topic.

Yes you do need to grow up, instead of continuing a conversation with me you've decided to stoop to name calling and immature antics all becuase I have a differing opinion than yours.

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Jed
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 12:41:47 AM
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I remember reading an article saying to stop whining about sequels, but I cant remember where.

sorry for the double post.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 12:45:27 AM

That was last week, it shouldn't be too far back.

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Jed
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 1:24:10 AM

That was sarcastic, I apologise

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Tha_Joker_186
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 12:47:18 AM
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I know I will get thumbed down for this but I am getting DJ Hero, but there is a reason! My uncle in Japan is a DJ and I kind of admire him for what he does, so I will be getting the game, but I won't pay full price for it, I dislike the way Activision milks their products -_-;

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Jed
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 1:23:15 AM

Thumbs up for the Activision dis

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bOnEs
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 1:24:11 AM
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yea, guitar hero was fun for a couple years... my first was GHII, then of course GHIII... but, i never wanted to play any more than what i already had, even if those were for the PS2... it started to become gimmicky, just like the wii... fun at first, and every now and then with some friends but, not something to play everyday anymore...

it was fun while it lasted but there's such a thing as overkill... and rock band and guitar hero are just that... go ahead and release albums and songs online to the dedicated but, quit ripping off the others by stealing $60 for the same damn thing every few months... keep a foundation-based game like little big planet and keep building upon it... my god man, how hard is that? release band albums with characters to resemble the band... it'll even make the musicians a little extra money... quit charging people $60 for a few songs they like... give em the chance to choose whatever they want...

how about $10-$20 for a DLC containing what i mentioned... i bet they'd sell like hotcakes if those were bands people wanted... and keep selling the songs like they've been doing... gah, gotta stop typing... gotta do it like little big planet, remove the I's, II's, III's and just call it guitar hero, with add-ons...

/rant...

Last edited by bOnEs on 9/8/2009 1:32:29 AM

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Fane1024
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 7:01:01 AM

With playable Tito Puente!!!!!

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___________
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 2:08:59 AM
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no of coarse not!
the more guitar hero games we get the better.
now when can i be rocking out to shine on your crazy diamond?

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Ultimadream
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 2:32:48 AM
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I personally am not interested in them, but i dont think that they're bad. I personally havent bought it becuase the equipment for Rock Band is pretty expensive. but if i did buy it i would hope that they'd release load of band titles so my money, buying al that equipment for one game is a waste.

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Fane1024
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 7:05:12 AM

DLC...1000 songs by the end of the year. No band-specific discs required.

Though you're opposed to DLC, aren't you? I seem to remember something to that effect.

Last edited by Fane1024 on 9/8/2009 7:06:59 AM

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Naga
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 7:40:07 AM

Theres alot of great downloadable songs for Rock Band for a great price although the best song pack is only a 3-pack which is Yngwie Malmsteen.
Its basically why Guitar Hero will never BE ENJOYABLE!! No properly priced Songpacks & a rubbish selection of mainstrearm Mindf**k

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frylock25
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 3:21:21 AM
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activision dude did say he wanted to charge us more for games, so releasing one games worth of content on 2,3 or 4 discs at full price and then charge for the dlc. sounds like he is getting what he wants. 3 $60 games and a few dlc songs and they are makin tons of money. and as i write this there is a guitar hero 5 commercial on.

this has been milked... they need to stop

i still think the guitar hero south park was really great.
"you scored a million points!! YOU ARE FAGS!!" ha ha

Last edited by frylock25 on 9/8/2009 3:24:08 AM

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Naga
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 7:33:28 AM
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Strange how all Hero games have something quite similar to each other. I still wonder what it could be?

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Riku994
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 7:59:44 AM
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I'm a huge GH fan but I'll only buy a game if I know songs on it or I know it'll be hard. I'm skippin GH5, DJ Hero and The Beatles, but I will be picking up GH Van Halen.

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Keeng
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 8:03:40 AM
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There's a ton of fun to be had in rhythm games. I personally continue playing them for the same reason anyone plays games that don't "end" (such as online shooters, sports, or fighting games). There's the challenge that compels you to get better and the overall fun factor.

That said, Guitar Hero has been dead since Harmonix left it at GHII. And it's really unfortunate that Activision has continued to pump these games out because they're watering down the genre and making people hate all music games, not just Guitar Hero. To that, all I can say is Rock Band is a music game franchise created for and by people who actually have genuine affection for the genre and its music. Hopefully people will be smart enough to ignore the deluge of Hero games and pick up Rock Band RB2, and/or the assumed sequel for next year. They probably won't, though. My guess is people will get sick of the whole genre because of GH and end up not buying next year's potential Rock Band 3, which will lead to the downfall of the entire genre, unfortunately.

Oh and by the way, this is my first post as a member of this site!

Last edited by Keeng on 9/8/2009 8:04:10 AM

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CH1N00K
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 8:06:37 AM
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I bought the first Rockband when it came out so my girlfriend could play it. The only time we bust it out is when we have people over and everyone is sitting around having a few drinks. Other then that it sits in the corner collecting dust and getting in the way.

I have downloaded a few songs but I will not be buying another version of this game, especially since we haven't even beaten the first one. I use the code to unlock all the songs so we can play them all.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 9:12:39 AM
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Hey N a S a H I NEVER said GH and other liked games existing meant there would be no games for me to play. I said if they stopped developing them and spent more time on other genres there is a good chance those games I MIGHT enjoy.

Boohoo, I'm selfish when it comes to specific genres being developed, cry me a river.

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dso8515
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 10:02:37 AM

Ok, Neversoft and Activision. I don't know exactly how the process worked but I'm guessing that Neversoft developed every GH game since GH 3 game and Activision just published them. Looking back at Neversoft's track record the only game we're missing out on because they've spent all their time developing GH games is a Tony Hawk game. And in my opinion we already have too many of those.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 10:41:07 AM

You're missing the point, they could of very easily decided to create an all new game in a different genre. Someone's track record does not define their development process for eternity.

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Robochic
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 9:28:11 AM
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I have rockband 2 and it sits here collecting dust it's fun now and agian but thats all I would buy rather spend my money on the great exclusives Sony has coming out instead.

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heyface
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 9:31:02 AM
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GH1 and GH2(for PS2) are the superior Guitar Hero titles. Everything after GH2 is worthless.

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Jiggy
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 9:46:46 AM
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All of the GHero expansions (metallica, aerosmith, now VH) have got, or will get, pretty poor reviews. They don't really change anything. But I've been reading up on the Beatles Rock Band and its been getting very good reviews. RB did it right it seems, they made the game like it should be...all about the Beatles. Including its own retro style gameplay and presentation. At least they seemed to have taken the time and effort to get a different, true to the band, style experience.

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 9:59:10 AM
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The frequency of these games is apalling. Why can't they just release expansions? Updates?

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BTNwarrior
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 10:24:30 AM
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I wouldn't really care that much if it wasn't for the $60 price tag they all recieve, I can remember rock band ACDC was only $30 when it came out. $60 is reserved for something different like the addition of a sixth button, or a graphic overhaul, aside from that these should be no more than $30 when they come out

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Fane1024
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 5:12:51 AM

$60 = 85 (or so) songs
$30 = 18 songs (and they're live versions, so the vocals suck)

The full versions are much better deals. Don't get me wrong; I bought AC/DC (at a discount), because the songs rock.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 11:32:08 AM
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As long as the public keeps purchasing the titles, we will keep seeing them.

It's the same logic that applies to all sequels.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 11:37:29 AM

Timesplitters?

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BeezleDrop
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 11:43:44 AM
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GH games aren't my steez. Personally like everyone else says the animations are some of the WORST in gaming, Rock Band nailed it. All music games are meaningless until I can put my own CDs on my PS3 and play actually GOOD songs my friends and I enjoy to hear. Plus I would rather play an acoustic drum set.

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tlpn99
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 2:13:13 PM
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I can see what Ben is saying though. There does seem to have been a new Rock Band or Guitar Hero rather recently, I sorta know one was Metallica and then a Beatles one came out sorry if I got the franchises wrong these games are not my type and therefore I myself personally would never buy one.

I was in Game today and the lad behind the counter informed me it would cost me £90 for the controller. I was like I could get 3 games for that. So I dont think I will be buying one ever. But good luck to those that do like it happy gaming to you.

If it was a Metal Gear game being released and then MG5 was released a few months after would we be moaning ? Of course not if you like the franchise. The non fans would possibly be the ones moaning.

At the end of the day if you don't like a game or a game company you don't have to buy the stuff do you. :)

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556pineapple
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 2:55:23 PM
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Being a musician, when I first heard of GH, I hated the idea. It bothered me that the real instruments were getting replaced. When I finally tried it, I began to realize that it's just a game, and doesn't even come close to replacing real instruments. I got into the Rock Band series earlier this year and love it.

Harmonix knows how to do it right. They don't flood the market with new installments, they just left it at 2 (with the exception for the Beatles, which I hear is it's own separate experience), and release DLC which anyone can download. Activision and Neversoft sicken me. All these installments and spinoffs of GH show nothing but corporate greed. They've released 3 GH titles in 2009 alone with another one on the way. I have absolutely no interest in them except to maybe rent them just to try out the songs. They seem to be in it more for the money, while Harmonix actually seems to care about the music.

On a side note, when my housemates and I aren't playing Rock Band, we do the real thing, which is MUCH more satisfying.

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Fane1024
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 5:19:12 AM

I don't know where musicians (most recently Bill Wyman) got the idea GH/RB would decrease interest in learning to play. Apparently, instrument sales have actually increased.

I played guitar and bass (badly) before RB and now I would buy a drum set if I could afford it.

Harmonix formed in order to increase interest in playing music; they decided video games were the best vehicle.

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reryan
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 3:26:23 PM
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I agree with the people who are saying that Harmonix is a much more creative and talented developer than Activision/Neversoft. They will release 3 guitar hero games per year until nobody buys them anymore, but Activision has made certain that each installment has been an increase in quality and enjoyment. The music on the Rock Band store is diverse in genre and includes many bands I would never have heard of except through this game. The people at Harmonix truly care about music and they understand how important it is to people, and that's why RB is going to be a major part of how people experience music in the near future whereas GH is going to fall to the wayside, a la Tomb Raider, Sonic, Tony Hawk, and Medal of Honor. I'm a professional musician and I love playing RB with my friends who are also professional musicians, it doesn't diminish the fun at all.

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dlte
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 5:15:02 PM
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I just want Guitar Hero/Rock Band: Led Zeppelin. Then I wouldn't need to get any others.

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556pineapple
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 1:14:28 AM

I want that too, but Jimmy Page has come right out and said he hates these kinds of games.

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Byakko2009
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 7:22:04 PM
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I play Guitar Hero all the time without a plastic guitar or the game CD. I'll let you guys in on a little secret. First, go buy a real guitar (if you don't have one). Second, download all your favorite bands (to take out all the junk GH puts in) and put those songs on your PS3s. Next step is to play your songs in a playlist or repeat 1 track then play your real guitar along to the music. It works so well, and it's oddly more fun than the game!

Jokes aside, I personally don't like this genre, but I can honestly say there's too many of them now. Also, there's too many oldies in the track selection. I grew up in the early 90s listening to stuff like Tool, Deftones, Nirvana, Soundgarden, and RATM. I'm pretty selective with rock music so I really don't like the GH games. I shouldn't have to buy all 30 of them just to hear 2 or 3 decent songs from my favorite bands. I got nothing against people who enjoy them though, but you definitely won't see me mashing plastic colored buttons on a fake guitar.

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twenty8nine
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 8:18:10 PM
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I stopped buying when Guitar Hero sold out and tried to copy Rock Band. I only rented Guitar Hero Metallica because I really like their music.

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Nerull
Tuesday, September 08, 2009 @ 10:22:47 PM
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I'm just getting my first music game now, RB 2. I've played all of the non-band-centric ones since my sis loves it but I only like a handful of songs from each one and none from GH 5.
For the foreseeable future I'm just gonna stick with rock band 2 and the better dlc they release. I wouldn't mind the frequency if it was ever something right up my alley like GH: Devin Townsend, RB: Mushroomhead allowing you to play an 8 person band, RB: Korpiklanni/Finntroll/Alestorm. I could go on but basically I don't want to stoop so low as to get GH: Metallica for my interactive metal fix.

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