3D Gaming With PS3 On The Horizon

When Mario 64 exploded onto the scene all those years ago, we were all like, "woah, so this is what it's like to play in another dimension!" Yeah, well, you ain't seen nothin' yet.

During the 2009 Consumer Electronics Show, Sony really impressed the attendees by showing several PlayStation 3 titles running in full 3D. You need special glasses to see them correctly but when you do...oh Lordy. We got a chance to see the likes of Gran Turismo 5: Prologue and MotorStorm running in three dimensional goodness, but of course, the big question was: "uh, don't we need a special TV to do this?" Yes, and the HDTVs that will support 3D gaming on the PS3 are scheduled to arrive next year, and according to a recent CNET report, Sony says they'll be ready to bring fully 3D-compatible Bravia HDTVs into production by the end of next year. At the IFA show in Berlin last week, Sony wowed everyone further by showing games like Wipeout HD in 3D, and this time, the technology needed was built into the TV itself. And when might this technology find its way into the PS3 hardware? Sony says this will all start in 2011 and if that happens, we'll all suddenly be in a quasi-virtual reality that we've never experienced before. Think the industry is moving at a rapid clip?

Well, we'll be certain to keep an eye on these proceedings, because it could change the entire way we look at games. Such a revolution hasn't happened in quite some time...

9/9/2009 9:55:13 PM Ben Dutka

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johnld
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:10:02 PM
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i wouldnt mind 3d games but i dont know about using those glasses just to play games. It better be damn comfortable, plus with glasses then you'll be the only one seeing it, kinda waste.

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napoleon85
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:11:23 PM

I don't think glasses will be that expensive. In fact they aren't expensive at all. You can always buy a second pair for guests. I guess "word of mouth" will mean nothing by then lol...

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coldbore
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:15:01 PM

Can't imagine they are expensive, there's a reason they are free at movie theatres...

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ffrevenge
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 1:41:00 AM

I've got my very own pair with the Guiness World Record book for 2009. They make your eyes hurt if you wear them too long.

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johnld
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 2:28:13 AM

thats what i meant, it wont be very comfortable wearing those glasses for extended periods of play. I didnt say anything about it being expensive, i just meant if people watch others play then they'll need to use those glasses because all they'll see is crap on the tv. If you can play those 3d games on a tv and no other accessories then im sold.

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napoleon85
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:10:18 PM
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Definitely, this is something we will look forward to. I just hope the tvs wont be too expensive.

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tes37
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:14:33 PM
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I'll be waiting a while on 3D gaming. Those tv's probably won't be cheap. After spending $1300 on a hdtv, I don't plan on buying another one for a long time.

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www
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:01:42 AM

Right, but I'm glad I didn't spend a whole lot on HDTV, now I can wait for this 3DTV.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:24:16 PM
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I don't even like wearing my own glasses, gotta go with contact lenses that support 3D, :P

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:38:38 PM
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ugh...but using those glasses...-_- meh
And 2011?

Meh, whatever, I just like to play games

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Hezzron
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:39:06 PM
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Now that gaming is finally being accepted as a little more mainstream and less nerdy, they want to send us back to the geek stone age by slapping some "special" glasses on us......and they want to sell us new TVs to boot! Knowing me, I'll probably get nauseous playing it too.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:43:51 PM
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actually you can just buy a 3d tv that's already avaliable? all you need is any tv that runs at 120hz and bam you're good to go, plenty of tv's already do that. also depending on they go about it, yes, 3d stuff is expensive. if you try to buy the 3d set from nvidia for pc's it's about 500$ and that's just for the equipment+glasses/goggles, you still gotta buy the monitor on your own. but i'm sure since this is going to be for a console it'll be around 200-300$ (unless all you need to buy are the goggles then like 50-60$) and won't need as much equipment, especially if they make it happen via firmware instead of buying equipment.

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fluffer nutter
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:52:41 PM

I was reading about the 3D and 120Hz televisions. Interesting stuff. That would mean that we're already covered in this house. There are already 3D capable televisions for sale and they're cheap as they are only 720P. They also have the split-screen capability so that two could watch what they want at the same time. I don't know about that one though. Watching the news and porn at the same time would be odd.

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tes37
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:57:46 PM

240 hz is also available, but mine unfortunately happens to be 60 hz. I would have to buy another tv, which is out of the question. I'm pretty much happy with regular gaming or at least I'm gonna have to be.

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TheHighlander
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:40:34 PM

Since most HDTVs available are already capable of 60 frames per second display, you could render and display frames from alternate points of view at 30 frames per second, and that would be well within the PS3's capability at 720p resolution. I'm not sure whether the frame rate would be high enough for some, but 3D cinema runs at similar frame rates, so I wouldn't be surprised if this worked on most HDTVs as long as they can handle at least 60 frames per second.

OK, well, my bad - perhaps. The 3D technology uses polarization and interleaving (interlacing) so that each frame is polarized to be seen by one eye or the other, and each line of pixels in the frame is interlaced. The speed of the display isn't really a problem, it's the ability to polarize the pixels. The lenses in the 3D glasses are polarized in a way that corresponds to the display so that as each line of the frame appears it's seen by the appropriate eye, and the brain sees the image as 3D.

You'd really only want this running at about 30 frames per second since the game console has to render twice the number of frames. But I can see how it could work, especially if the frame rate were 30.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:03:35 AM

well i don't know the limitations myself, i'm just running on my search via nvidia for my computer, this was months ago, and they essentially said you have to have at least a 120hz because it's effectively halving your tv to where you get two images at 60hz so they make a 60hz 3d image or something dunno (gotta remember everything i'm talking about is in reference to pc's)
here's the link for nvidia tho
http://www.nvidia.com/object/3D_Vision_Main.html

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fatelementality
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 10:54:47 PM
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All I know is that I tried to watch Coraline in 3D and my head hurt for about 2 days afterward. If this is going to happen, they need to do it right.

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yak4life85
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:07:53 PM
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Sounds neat just wondering how expensive the tv's will be.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:25:47 PM
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I useda want that Jaguar VR headset :) Missile Command 3D ftw.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:37:49 PM
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Virtual Boy anyone?

I think it sounds interesting, I'm concerned with how this might effect my eyes. I'm cool with watching a movie in 3d for a couple hours but I can't see myself enjoying extended gameplay using this technology.

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TheHighlander
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:43:12 PM
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If this works easily and can be done by the PS3, and if it can be made to work with standard HDTVs, can you imagine this combined with the head tracking that Polyphony is talking up with GT5?

I'm just doing the equivalent of adding 2+4 to get 4 here. Clearly there are still a lot of 'ifs' but, combining this 3D with head tracking and motion sensitive controllers leads to some incredible possibilities using only the technology we already have.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, September 09, 2009 @ 11:48:21 PM

I agree these concepts are intriguing and open up new avenues in gaming. Have to admit though I'm an old school gamer and perfectly content with a game pad and some good ole turn based action going on in front of me. I must be getting old, I find myself dragging out my SNES collection of RPGs even with all the new games released today. Don't see these new innovations changing that's.

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NonProphet
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:39:38 AM
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As happy as I am with the current generation of games, I can't help but tremble with excitement at when I imagine the future of gaming. 3D is the next step in the evolution, and as Highlander alluded to, when its combined with motion controls/tracking, I think we're gonna be playing some seriously immersive games in the next couple years.

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jerocarson
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 12:42:17 AM
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mMm....

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ffrevenge
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 1:42:23 AM
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Well it sucks that we have to get brand new TVs for that. I've already got a 40" Bravia, cant get rid of that!

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mer3y
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 1:54:02 AM
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i played 3d game it's left 4 dead on my PC and yes the tv will be too expencive because the screen on pc already exist from 6 months (samsung) and the 3d glasses from nvidea and both cost 1000 dollar glasses alone 240 dollar.......... the screen only 22 inch

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LegendaryWolfeh
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 2:34:25 AM

um what? the monitor is 500$ and the bundle for the 3d equipment is 500$

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___________
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 4:20:47 AM
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arent 3D tvs already out?
i thought the only thing you needed for 3D was a tv that displays at 200Hz they have been out for months, but bloody dam expensive.
4K for a bloody 46 inch youve gota be kidding me.

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Naga
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 4:27:02 AM
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don't know about you but Wipeout hd in 3d will be sweet!!! but the price will be insane :(

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chucknasty
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 4:59:31 AM

this news is on the Western horizon. The TV is the only difference, PS3 and game are the same. You may be correct about the price of the 3D TV.

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tanner1
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 6:37:59 AM
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You can get a panasonic viera 42 " plasma @ 600 hrz for a £1000, full hd

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PSNclaw18
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 6:53:55 AM
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I don't know that the industry is moving at a rapid clip, but by the sound of this article, Sony sure is! Go Sony!

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tlpn99
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 7:20:46 AM
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I can wait not that bothered to be honest lets face it it is gonna be a while before they make 3D games innit. Not everyone will be abel to afford a 3D TV like the plasmas and LCDTV's now they come down in price just a matter of waiting it out.

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TheHighlander
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 3:59:35 PM

Oh I don't know. Most games are done in 3D now. All the objects, characters and so forth are modeled as a completely 3D environment, it's only the rendering that makes it 2D. If you render it stereoscopically, you get a 3D game. It takes twice the rendering work (render each frame from ywo slightly different points of view to give a 3D view), but the rest is the same without any major modifications at all.

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Gogaku
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 8:35:47 AM
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Like some people already have said, 3D gaming should work with any HDTV 120hz and over. If not, then I think this will be somewhat of a fad. Who buys another expensive tv a couple of years later just for a gaming experience?

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Karosso
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 8:37:33 AM
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Damn! I just got retinal detachment on my right eye and doubt I could be able to see 3D stuff with double vision already :(
Well I hope they don't make it standard, or that will be the end of gaming for me...

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Wage SLAVES
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:10:23 AM

What happened to ya man?

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Karosso
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 3:21:30 PM

The Doctor kept asking me if I had been hit in the head or something but I just recall a car accident a few years back... The retina is the light sensitive layer inside your eye the translates the image to your brain and my has a distortion that makes everything seem half of the normal size on my right eye :(
At least I still have the left one but, playing FPS is a lot harder with just one eye or two with double vision...

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Wage SLAVES
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 5:27:47 PM

Damn. Hope it somehow gets better. Good luck.

I got knocked crazy hard in the left eye once playing basketball and now my pupils are never dilated the same. So I have a small contrast difference in each eye giving everything a halo or glowing effect. It is annoying.

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King James
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 8:53:01 AM
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Great...I guess. Deadspace 3D would look trippy.

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redman479
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 9:16:20 AM
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Actually, Mitsubishi is already making them. Bestbuy has them listed for $1299 for a 65 in.

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Wage SLAVES
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:09:52 AM
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Dude, I have a gut feeling many of us are gonna fall over with seizures with this thing...

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Karosso
Friday, September 11, 2009 @ 2:41:16 PM

That could be a real possibility, they better test it very well!
Thanks for the well wishes! Both doctors think it will go back to normal but it might take a whole year or it might never get better.
What about you? Is there any chance you can get that fixed? Can you still get a good 3D experience with that halo effect on it? Hope it goes away somehow or that you find some way to get it fixed.

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Wage SLAVES
Saturday, September 12, 2009 @ 1:52:32 AM

They told me the same thing. A year later and it still isn't the same. It is better though cuz the left eye was completely dilated at one point. That made my eye super sensitive in the light but it is stuck at about 1/4 dilation now.

B'sides the slight halo I see well...yours seems more serious by far.

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Ricochet
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 10:13:04 AM
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This is going to be interesting. I've watched 3D/4D films on theaters and I was impressed to how the audience could be interacted. Journey to the Center of the Earth is the good example. Can't imagine if the Last Guardian or even GT5!

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BeezleDrop
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 1:45:27 PM
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Man this is great! I already drool over WipeoutHD so in 3D? My epileptic friends should probably stay home for this.

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herukuti
Thursday, September 10, 2009 @ 2:32:14 PM
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if with the motion controls the developers don't implement a way of interaction with the 3d with volume and other variables and the games is just presented in stereo 3d with normal controls then this will be an expensive fad. but if you can use motion controls to interact with the volume of an object being presented in 3d then this will be new for gaming.if the 3d tech is standard stereoscopic then this will fail, sony should invest in r&d to make sure volume from a perspective can be expressed in 3d with stereo 3d the limitation is the linear aspect of stereo3d, thus projecting what appears to be a 2d object away from a point and not adding volume in a true 3d sense; this is an aspect of 3d that needs to have more research done.

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