Uncharted 3 Will Be Graphically Superior To Uncharted 2
Uncharted 2: Among ThievesNaughty Dog has said they will continue to make Uncharted "as long as the fans want it," but they must've already assumed the reaction to Uncharted 2: Among Thieves would be good enough to warrant a third entry (and of course, that's a correct assumption).
But as amazing as this sequel looks - just trust us when we say it's the best-looking console game you've ever seen - it seems the team actually can actually make a future title look better. According to what co-lead game designer Neil Druckman told the gaming press, Uncharted 3 is going to blow our minds once again, and it's not necessarily due to the power of the PlayStation 3. In fact, Druckman says they're already working with the full power of the hardware for Uncharted 2, but the engine for the game can be optimized to look visually superior. In a direct contrast, it seems Uncharted: Drake's Fortune only utilized about 30% of the PS3 hardware, which - mathematically speaking - would mean Naughty Dog used more than three times the hardware power in the making of Uncharted 2. Plus, with the 90 minutes of cinematic content that will emulate real life better than ever before, Uncharted 2 is going to be one fine production...but can you even begin to imagine what Uncharted 3 might look like? Can the designers really take another significant step? If so...wow.
We always get a big kick out of seeing the graphical achievements developers continue to make. Graphics don't make the game, but they sure as hell add to the experience.
Related Game(s): Uncharted 2: Among Thieves
9/24/2009 9:43:33 PM Ben Dutka
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kreate
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 12:11:34 AM
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bigrailer19
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 1:03:33 AM
the game is out in less than a month, and if a dev is already saying they can improve on the next one we should be excited, not bashing there work!
Uncharted 2 will be insane and probably one of my fav games of all time, well it will be... anyways if naughty dog can tell me now that they can keep this up and then some, ill be more than ecstatic.
Naughty Dog deserves an award!
Last edited by bigrailer19 on 9/25/2009 1:11:55 AM
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bigrailer19
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 1:14:19 AM
sorry!
i know no one was bashing there work, just got caught up!
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kevinater321
Saturday, September 26, 2009 @ 11:53:50 AM
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frylock25
Saturday, September 26, 2009 @ 4:14:28 PM
"we worked our asses off to get where we are with this game and we are very proud of it. through continued optimazation of our game engine we believe we can make a third game that will look better than what we have now"
im not really sure how that would make a difference to be said a few months from now if they already know now.
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Culoslap
Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 10:05:09 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 11:09:23 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 10:07:47 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 10:18:59 PM
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Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 1:18:27 AM
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Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 11:07:07 AM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 10:09:52 PM
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Wage SLAVES
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 12:56:22 AM
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HeXeN
Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 10:18:12 PM
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Highlander
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 9:55:31 AM
I think they are not even correct to say that they're using the full power pd the PS3 - this is an opinion, not fact. It's a very subjective and interpretive thing to say to be sure. But technically you could use 100% of the Cell BE to execute an infinite loop of NO OP instructions that do nothing. In other words, even if they are using every cycle of CPU right now, there may be ways to use the CPU better than what they have right now, resulting in a XX% improvement in CPU use. The same could be true for the GPU. They may even find ways to spread the load between CPU and GPU differently. Who knows. So even if right now there are no spare cycles when Uncharted 2 runs, Uncharted 3 will still more than likely be better, because there will be two or three years more work in the game engine.
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Aftab
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 1:49:45 AM
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 1:52:23 AM
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Aftab
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 4:18:21 AM
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AntDC
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 5:28:09 AM
*cough* Halo ODST *cough*
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 3:33:14 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 10:40:19 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 10:40:25 PM
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Xra897
Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 10:47:23 PM
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) have given uncharted two a max on the graphics. so 3 will probably be on ps4 or some crap
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frylock25
Saturday, September 26, 2009 @ 9:08:37 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 10:58:16 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 11:08:20 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 11:29:01 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 11:33:35 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 11:33:59 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 11:35:58 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 11:36:46 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 11:43:35 PM
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Thursday, September 24, 2009 @ 11:56:58 PM
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Highlander
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 10:01:21 AM
Uncharted 2 is the best that can be produced with the current engine. ND are saying that they are certain that further optimization will happen allowing them to do even better with Uncharted 3. They're simply being ambitious for the future, and not saying that they held something back from Uncharted 2.
Good grief.
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Snaaaake
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 12:01:44 AM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 12:15:32 AM
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Qubex
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 12:03:17 AM
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A friend of mine has just taken delivery of an Alienware Rig, dolled out to the hilt.
Sitting on his 4 core motherboard, are x2 Nvidia 295's SLI'd. This is one mean machine. He maxed out Crysis at 1900 x 1200 with all detailed turned up to maximum, including x2 AA, and it sings along. He is also sitting with 12GB of system memory and 2GB of graphics memory.
In the PS3, we are sitting with 256mb of memory for the RSX :( ...its poultry... Our PS3, at theoretical peak, is capable of 2.1 Terra Flops of processing throughput; just the 2 Nividias in the Alienware Rig are bursting 2.5 Terra Flops and those are only the graphics cards, we are not talking 4 core processor with Hyper threading combined.
My conclusion is, with some trickery and hard work, Unchartered 3 can possibly make thinks look a little better, but increasingly, from what I saw recently having taken a good look around a PC hardware electronics store, our PS3 is looking aged :(
Anyway, let us wait and see what they can do with it in the next 24 months... should be interesting...
Personally I was going to buy a PS3 Slim, but now I am convinced all extra monies I have which are not going to go toward a PS3 game exclusive should now go toward a really nice, powerful PC rig which would give me the overall grunt I am looking for, together with a decent home PC which I need anyway. The cross platform games are cheaper... memory is almost infinite and the new line of Nvidia GPU's and ATI GPU's are incredibly powerful...
In addition, Linux on the PS3 is hobbled no thanks to not having RSX GPU access, therefore making it impossible for me to use it as a everyday general computer. The reality is, it could be, if only Sony wanted it to be :)
So having a Fat PS3 and a top of the range PC it's a gamers dream, best of all worlds mi thinks :)
Q!
"i am home"
Last edited by Qubex on 9/25/2009 12:14:39 AM
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Qubex
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 1:17:40 AM
Generally speaking, my post was saying that with the advent of some very nice PC hardware about, I would like to continue investing in my PS3 games - the exclusives anyway, but also put extra monies aside for a powerful PC rig so I have the best of both worlds. Instead of purchasing a PS3 Slim and PSP, I would like to put the cash toward a decent PC set up.
World; do you believe graphics on the PS3 can get much better when looking at what is being achieved already?
Q!
"i am home"
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___________
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 1:42:44 AM
seriously dont.
there is no point in spending serious cash on a gaming pc at the moment.
1 games are STILL yet to be coded for multi core CPUs.
2 there is not 1 game out there that needs a alienware high tech computer.
if you want to get a PC, i sudgest finding a company that will build one for you, or if you know how build it yourself.
it will save you a hell of allot of money.
if i was to get the exact same specs with my computer from dell, alienware, HP, toshiba, Asus or any other PC maker it would of cost me at least 500 bucks more.
i got a intell I7 920 OC to 3.2Ghz 1 Nvidia 9800GTX+ and 6GB DDR3 ram @ 1333Mhz that is no where near as powerful as a alienware.
I spent 2800 AUD on my pc and am really regretting it, because my laptop which cost me 2K can do everything my 2800 PC can.
wait till crysis 2 and half life 2 episode 3 and RAGE are out, because by then you will need a powerful pc now its overkill.
my PC is overkill, alienwares are 4 times more powerful than my PC, so there 4 times the overkill (not literally but you get the point)
i wish i listened to my teachers, they told me not to spend any more than 2K on a PC for gaming because its overkill.
anything a 3K computer can do, a 2K computer can also do.
I would spend 1K on a PC max.
anything more than a dual core @ 2.8GHZ, 6GB DDR3 ram and a 9800GTX+ is a waste of money.
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 2:20:01 AM
I run Crysis at max settings.
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Aftab
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 2:51:15 AM
Now to the relevant topic, you really are bringing up the "pc vs console" debate. The answer is, know the kinds of games you want to decide on which platform to get...
Otherwise you're just wasting money, either way, and you'll spend eternity arguing what is better while secretly wondering if you really just wasted money since you still don't have what you want even though you have the best tech that money can buy or the most highly-rated games.
If having the best graphics possible is your top priority, and money is no issue, and don't mind gameplay or story being an afterthought or something tacked on at the end, then, yeah get yourself the best gaming rig money can buy. If you like games like Halo or COD4, I still recommend getting yourself a pc, since mouse and keyboard is the best way to go for fps's, so I hear, and even a medium-spec pc will give you better performance than a 360. If all your buddies live on xbox live and have a 360, and online gaming is your main reason for gaming and your social life, then go for a 360. But, if you love the sleeper-hit, 1st, 2nd, 3rd party franchises that have made the PlayStation brand famous (ICO, GOW, GT, J&D, R&C, WipeOut..), having an online experience on par with that of Xboxlive, without having to pay for it, and having tech potential that is a happy medium between console and pc, then of course, one would go for the ps3.
As for meeting the pc needs of your home, and meeting the spec requirements of the latest showcase of gaming rigs, don't confuse the two. For MS-Office and browsing the net, a few hundred dollars will last you many years. Where as having the best display of graphics, even a couple grand will hardly last you a couple years.
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Qubex
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 11:12:25 AM
Uhm, please understand... my intent for posting was not to re-awaken the debate about PC's vs Consoles; I was (in all intense and purposes) thinking out aloud. I come back to my reasons for getting a decent PC rig... is I want lots of power, I realise I need it, for 3D graphic modeling and rendering and gaming. So a nice powerful rig that has a 4-5 year longevity, maybe even longer would do me well.
Therefore if I am going to invest 4-6K on a monster I need it too last for many a year... x2 Nvidias 295's SLI'd are crazy powerful, together with a decent i7 quad processor will go down well for half a decade. Max memory on the mother board permits me to stuff up to 24GB of DD3 memory on there, together with the 2GB's of gfx ram from the Nvidia cards. I think this will suffice for many a year.
Unfortunately, part of the cost of that will be dropping the PS3 Slim and PsP for now.
I won't order a pre-built system, I will build it myself, I could do it cheaper no doubt... I also won't do it right now... looking mid next year; prices for some of these components would have dropped too, by at least a 3rd.
Still sticking to my PS3 exclusives... they all look stunning :)
PS. appreciate your comments Limited Vertigo and "anonymous"
Q!
"i am home"
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Aftab
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 11:49:05 AM
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Alienange
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 12:58:32 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 3:28:59 PM
You forget to mention that the 800 dollar computer someone bought isn't just for playing crysis but also for thousands of other games, running thousands of applications, surfing the web, running a media server, emulating well over 20 consoles, or how about this aiding them in their JOB. I find FAR less value in a PS3 for 300 dollars than a computer that only cost me 800 dollars.
PC gaming = no restrictions, you f@#khead.
Last edited by LimitedVertigo on 9/25/2009 3:34:29 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 5:26:14 PM
Stop spreading such filth; PC gaming IS pretty damn close to obsolete, as evidenced by retailers shrinking PC software down to almost non-existent numbers due to almost non-existent sales except for goddamn World of Warcraft and a few others in the past decade. Game of the Year awards are dominated by things like MGS4 and Uncharted 2 and Killzone 2 and Gears of War and Gran Turismo and NO, they're NOT all "better" on PC. A lot aren't even ON PC. Without RTS and FPS, the PC would be effing USELESS for gaming, and you goddamn well know it.
Apparently, you don't know much about anything and insist on badgering users around here into being a blind PC elitist like yourself. This is the very last time I'm warning you: KNOCK IT OFF. You flame someone with personal insults the next time someone says something against PC gaming, and you're gone.
Christ, PC elitists know less than my GRANDMOTHER about gaming. Guess it's because they never have SH** TO PLAY.
Last edited by Ben Dutka PSXE on 9/25/2009 5:28:14 PM
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Highlander
Saturday, September 26, 2009 @ 3:09:02 AM
Indeed, I toured the shelves of a game store recently and the PC scene is anemic to say the least.
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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, September 26, 2009 @ 4:17:05 AM
How on earth do I come off as elitist? I freaking own a PS3 and play it just as often as my computer. If anything you're coming off as a narrow minded elitist since all you do is talk down about the PC every chance you get and attempt to silence me and NOW threaten me. All becuase I replied to someone's comments directed towards me.
So if I have it correctly if someone spews ignorant comments towards a platform I'm knowledgeable about directly towards me I'm supposed to play nice and ignore them and allow their opinion to not get any counter thus allowing them to say any garbage they want.
I think everyone here is a free thinker and able to believe what they want, why are you so against someone speaking their mind, especially if it is a response to another's comments.
I've constantly played nice but when someone directs their comments towards me I view that as open season, excuse me for being a free thinker.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, September 26, 2009 @ 10:30:27 AM
No, you clearly can't speak intelligently about such things...primarily because you're WRONG about your "PC is always superior" mentality. All PC elitists are exactly the same way...you think you simply know more than everyone else, and in so doing, absolutely refuse to admit the PC is a decade behind the rest of the gaming world in terms of ANYTHING but graphics.
You're not a "free thinker." You just know less than you think you do, and call people fu***** idiots" for saying anything against the platform of which you're an obvious fanboy.
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LimitedVertigo
Saturday, September 26, 2009 @ 11:51:48 AM
I sure do think I know more than alienange in regards to PC gaming when he decides to say a ridiculous comment implying someone would pay $800 for a computer simply to play Crysis. That's as ignorant as someone saying they only bought a PS3 to use its browser.
Okay you've got me, PC gaming is behind consoles in regards to innovation. Never said otherwise on that matter and I along with millions don't seem to have a problem with it.
You can continue to think consoles are right up there with PCs in regards to multiplayer but I believe you're incorrect. Multiplayer on consoles will continue to be constricted as long as their isn't open source and expensive map packs.
I shouldn't have used the language I did or attacked a specific member of the site, that I regret. But I stand behind my opinion and maybe if I played nicer you would see that I'm a little right.
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Saturday, September 26, 2009 @ 12:21:36 PM
Just remember that.
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frylock25
Saturday, September 26, 2009 @ 9:02:46 PM
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Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 12:15:25 AM
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Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 12:57:34 AM
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Jawknee
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 9:53:08 AM
No. They are simply saying as long as there is a demand they will continue to deliver and make it better at no extra charge. Naughty Dog has a great relationship with Sony and seems to take a humble attitude towards their fans. Comparing Naughty Dog to Craptivision is way off base. Your not paying attention.
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BTNwarrior
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 11:53:06 AM
activision adds some new guns and some new maps and then ships it out the door. Or in the case of guitar hero, never updates the system just adds new songs and characters who are on the screen playing the music
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___________
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 1:32:52 AM
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think about it, if they can do uncharted 2 graphics imagine what they could do with a top of the line gaming grade PC.
ohwell i guess i will have to wait till crysis 2 to find out the answer to that.
one thing ND really need to fix for the MP is, the choke hold the enemies use.
ive lost count the amount of times i have gone to mele a enemy, he melees me i automatically turn around he puts me in a choke hold i mash triangle like theres no tomorrow and i still die.
and quite a few times thats happened, than a friend revives me as soon as i get up IT HAPPENS AGAIN!
they need to remove the choke hold its so friggin annoying.
and they need to lower the time in the lobby, last time i tried to play a game i was in the lobby searching for a game for like 20 minutes.
than i FINALLY got into the game and had to leave because it froze on me.
not happy jan!
i have to say killzone 2 is still the king of multiplayer, but im yet to play MAG so that could change.
2 friggin days and its only at 50%.
anyone know what the world record for the worlds slowest 2.66GB download is?
i think im going to break it by at least 6 hours the way this is going.
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Ivan_PSP
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 2:04:48 AM
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Ivan_PSP
Friday, September 25, 2009 @ 2:03:51 AM
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My PSN ID: Ivan-
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