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Infinity Ward: "We Only Care About What Our Fans Think"

Usually, a publisher wants to be very much in the loop, especially where massive blockbuster projects are concerned.

But it seems they put a lot of faith in developer Infinity Ward, as the studio was actually able to keep Modern Warfare 2 secret for quite some time. According to what community manager Robert Bowling told OXM, Activision only laid eyes on the game once development "was well under way." Bowling said he wanted the team to remain "focused," and better yet, "the only opinion we care about is what our fans think." You may remember when Infinity Ward reached out to the community and asked what they wanted to see in the sequel:

"So that's why very early on, we got in touch with our fans via Twitter and Facebook and said 'what's the one thing you wanted to see in the game?' So we got all that feedback and later on we asked a few more questions, and as we're designing, we have all these boards in the office that we can gut check ourselves and say, 'this is what they'd like to see, this is what we have planned and this is what we already have, and let's try to get those more in synch.'

That's really what's important, our relationship with us and our fans, and not so much us and Activision, or us and retailers or anything like that."

Some people aren't the biggest fans of Activision but it'd be a mistake to lump Infinity Ward into your hostile feelings toward the publisher. It's clear that IW went their own way with this one, and bear in mind that we're talking about the same developer that defied Activision's wish to keep the Call of Duty franchise in a World War II setting. See, this is why we care most about how the game makers operate.

Related Game(s): Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

10/27/2009 12:24:33 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (82 posts)

BTNwarrior
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 12:36:45 PM
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and yet one of the most asked for additions (zombie modes) were left out of the game, because infinity ward has a grudge against anything that was added to COD by treyarch

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bridgera
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 6:02:18 PM

Thanks for that info, I was actually wondering if Zombies would be in it, but wasn't sure where to look.

I've never played the CoD games, but I'm looking at getting World at War, I enjoy local co-op and Zombies.

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Wage SLAVES
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 7:16:54 AM

Kinda doesn't fit the bill though...in context that is what Spec Ops is supposed to be replacing. Russian Zombies or something doesn't seem to be IW's style.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 12:37:37 PM
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Infinity Ward is a good developer, that's for sure. I am looking forward to playing COD MW2.

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Titch1794
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 12:41:06 PM

I just hope it won't be a let down. It can't be a let down surely. :s

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 1:45:55 PM

I believe the only thing the PS3 users will disappointed in is the fact that MW2 does not look as good as Uncharted 2.

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nickert0n
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 4:30:43 PM

Exactly! But then again nothing looks like Uncharted 2

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johnld
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 1:03:22 AM

that and the fact that in the modern warfare, ps3 users came second to xbox users when it came to dlc and patches. lets hope for a more even developers support, at least on patches.

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LimitedVertigo
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 5:26:40 AM

Crysis.


That is all.

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Godslim
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 4:01:00 PM

u thumb him down but we all know crysis has better graphics as much as i hate to admit it

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Godslim
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 12:52:53 PM
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yeh it was cool of them to ask us what we want :)
cant wait for mw2 its gonna rock

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ace_boon_coon
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 12:56:30 PM
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2 more weeks. this is going to be a sweet game. can't wait for my NV goggles

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Godslim
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 4:41:01 PM

lol nv goggles

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BTNwarrior
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 11:39:55 PM

if thats what they call a green light filter these days

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Imagi
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 12:56:50 PM
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Sounds like they are trying to distance themselves from Activision now that the release date is looming.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 4:37:58 PM

that's what I was gonna say.

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AshT
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 12:59:03 PM
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Didn't Bowling said about the length of the game that it's dictated by experience and not by demands of players, do they care what fans think, hmmm let me guess "No".

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 1:18:34 PM

I think the fact of the matter is that fans don't know what they really want, sometimes the creators need to take a step into uncharted territory and help redefine our wants. Otherwise every game would just be Halo.

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I_defenestrate
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 1:59:17 PM

And that would get me out of the FPS genre for good.

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bearbobby
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 3:57:00 PM

The length of ANY game is subjective. Some people can whip through Uncharted in 5 hours, and some take 16. Some can get through a Final Fantasy in 20 hours, others spend over 120. What time frame do they give to marketing?

You can't say; "I want that game to be at least 10 hours long," cause it might only take YOU personally 6 hours to get through it while some other chump might take 15. lol

I don't know, I kinda agree with them in that the experience dictates the length. It's not that they don't care what gamers think, it's that every gamer thinks something different. lol

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AshT
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 9:08:41 AM

@bearbobby, well the point i was trying to make, IW doesn't care what fans think, or they are too arrogant.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 1:21:36 PM
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You gotta love that IW makes so much money for Blizzivision that they can make comments like this without any backlash.

I love IW I just wish that they could tone down their egos a bit and play well with others. I think that even a series as great as CoD could be incredibly improved if IW would work with Treyarch instead of against them.

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www
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 2:04:16 PM
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Exactly what I was saying, you gotta love IW, don't let Kotick's arrogance get in the way.
Now all am looking to see is, if MW2 is going to take my GOTY crown from U2.

I just gotta feeling MW2 is gonna be the best fps EVER! I'm predicting a 96 or 95 overall at Metacritic, maybe just right under U2 or above it, who knows.

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www
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 3:15:42 PM

The MW2 haters gave me thumbs down lmao! I know all you...

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bearbobby
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 3:58:41 PM

It's not that they hate MW2, but perhaps you're overestimating it. (Best FPS ever?)

We'll see...

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Juanalf
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 4:52:05 PM

I doubt it'll have as much content and polish as Fifa10 or KZ2 let alone U2.Also "best fps EVER!"; Sorry buddy but I think Half-life 2 reserves that title, maybe of 2009(maybe.I hope the game turns out well for y'all but don't be surprise to read in reviews things like "More of the same"; which has recently been labeled to R&C Crack in Time.

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www
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:00:18 PM

Bearbobby, yea maybe.

Hexen, okay best fps this gen but of all time I think Goldeneye 64 has it not Half Life, check the rankings.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:14:46 PM

lol, u like how I made fun of ya in the forums? Listen I'm on record saying that IW is extremely talented, I by no means hate COD and I'm sure it'll be great but I don't see it doing anything to gain GOTY except having multiplat status (those always win to appease the masses)

I would gladly pay 30-40 dollars for that short of a game because lets face it the real draw here is multiplayer and some of us old guys just aren't that into it. We get tired of multi after a month so it's hard to justify the full price based on all the BS jerking around we get from Acti and the BS competition between Trey and IW because in this one case competition is a bad thing. They still can't make a COD game that even runs at the full 720p. It's in Maddenland and other games already put it to shame at least in a technical sense and for sure in a SP campaign sense.

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www
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:54:18 PM

Lol World, its not you, dont feel guilty. There more fps haters here who are taking the hate on MW2, which is kinda annoying, considering what MW1 was able to achieve back in 07, most fps games that came after it, borrowed a lot from it. Its not like am a big fan of fps, I prefer 3rd person by far.

I wasn't into multiplayer when MW1 released, the single-player alone though was annoyingly short was just epic! Then after, I decided to try out the Online Multiplayer and it was just crazy. That's when I had respect for IW.

After MW1, I just had this feeling, that NO! no game is gonna be able to easily achieve this. Thus I skipped Killzone2,Resistance2 & W@W but got K2 at a later date, I wasn't on here hating on any of those 3 games.

And its not me saying this, go check the overall at Metacritic, Call of Duty 4 : Modern Warfare is still the highest rated fps out there besides Bioshock. Talk about Bioshock, I bet most of you haven't even given it a shot, just cause its a port!

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___________
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 12:46:39 AM

if this gets GOTY 09 i will officially dye my hair pink and take up ballet lessons.
there is no way in hell that is going to happen.
but than, the industry has gone into a crazy paid off spiral so i guess anythings possible.
depends on how large IW and activisions checkbook is.
and no half life 2 still owns best FPS title, until half life 2 episode 3 comes out.
or may be RAGE or crysis 2, but doubt it.
nothing can touch half life.

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johnld
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 1:30:17 AM

@line

then might as well start dyeing your hair pink and take those ballet lessons now. We all know that someone is going to name modern warfare 2 based on sales alone. Its probably going to be VGA awards. really, GTA4 wins over MGS4? In my opinion, Modern warfare 2 doesnt deserve to win game of the year. It will just be modern warfare with more perks and different levels. Its not ground breaking as Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2, even gears of war series. If GOTY is decided by the game itself and not sales then multiplatform games, which only uses the common denominator approach and not much innovation/advancement wont be considered at all.

Well...not like game of the year is something special now. The proof, how many different games have game of the year editions coming out. It just lost its meaning.

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___________
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 6:58:21 AM

because back in the day there was 1 GOTY, now every website and its dog has nominations.
but i seriously doubt MW2 is going to get MW2.
and i never said when i would do it, so ill wait a while if it happens.
the game that got GOTY has not deserved it for a long time.
oblivion in 06? never liked that.
MW in 07? what no uncharted , BIOSHOCK should of got it.
08 most sites gave it to either fallout 3 or L4D when it should of been MGS4 all around.
my choice for GOTY 2009 is still inFAMOUS just the platforming mechanics still amaze me today.
sonys right that game is addictive.

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King James
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 2:10:12 PM
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So they care about the fans but more about M$'s money? I want my PS3 expansion maps IW!

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EddPm6
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 2:25:04 PM
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I think IW should operate under themselves. Maybe they could make a PS3 exclusive, and thus show off thier real talent.

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Zorigo
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 3:13:48 PM

it doesn't matter which console, as long as they go for its potential.

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BlackBriar
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 2:54:51 PM
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Looks Fun, But its only about a 10 hour game, alot about people will beat it in weekends time

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AshT
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 3:28:45 PM

I doubt it's even going to be 10 hours, still gonna get my copy, but will wait for the reviews

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___________
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 12:42:06 AM

well its the same length as the first, and that took me 6 hours to complete.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 2:56:44 PM
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hehehehe

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Kowhoho
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 2:57:54 PM
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I did actually lump them in with Activision, completely by mistake. I'm sorry Infinity Ward, I wasn't angry with you!
(But give us our map packs at the same time dammit)

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Zorigo
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 3:13:14 PM

and make sure those packs aren't too expensive

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Zorigo
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 3:12:51 PM
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im glad they find fans important, to improbe on somethin like cod4, you need to know what the fans want.
uncharted 2 improved on uncharted, so it can be done.

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NonProphet
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 3:39:42 PM
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My bet is that IW wanted to release Modern Warfare as a new IP, but when they revealed their plans to Activision, they were told they had to keep the COD moniker (for financial reasons to be sure). But IW went ahead anyway and executed their vision and in doing so, completely changed the nature of the game. By bringing the game into modern times they drastically altered the technology, weapons, environments and characters with which the player interacts.

The fact that the "developer defied Activision's wish to keep the Call of Duty franchise in a World War II setting", throws in to question the idea that the whole COD franchise has turned into a Madden type situation where we get a yearly upgrade with only minor tweaks and revisions. Because for all intensive purposes, MW was a new IP that was simply forced by the publisher to retain the uncharacteristic COD tag for name-recognition and hence higher profits. This is mostly supposition but its not crazy, right?


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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:05:50 PM

not to be a stickler but it's "For all intents and purposes" anyway I agree with you, COD is now in Madden territory.

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johnld
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 1:18:50 AM

If you want proof that Infinity ward wants to distance themselves from the call of duty tag check the game cases. the regular version has the call of duty tag in the cover. while the hardened and prestige edition doesnt have them anywhere.

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NightHawk17
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 4:01:35 PM
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If you care about us how come the ps3 fans have to wait for the dlc since they are timed exclusives?

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:06:32 PM

they care about MS cash more.

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oldmike
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 12:47:13 AM

do what i do at best its a 10 hour game so just rent it

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johnld
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 1:16:23 AM

old mike, the thing about MW2 is all about online. Sure you can beat single player but thats not even half the game.

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LittleBigMidget
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 4:29:53 PM
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I wish all FPS games would roll over and die

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Godslim
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 4:42:17 PM

i bet they wish the same for you ;)

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Oxvial
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:02:07 PM

FPS = junk food of this gen.

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___________
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 12:40:04 AM

is that why some of the best games ever created are FPS?

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johnld
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 1:13:43 AM

If you suck at first person shooter games so much that you just put down the whole genre, then dont play. Its not like its gonna hurt my experience if you're not playing. in fact, i prefer it.

However, i want to hear your side. why dont you like FPS? and no stupid excuses. i actually want to know.

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Godslim
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 7:56:48 AM

i like junk food :)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 4:38:09 PM
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Politics in video games? Go figure.

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jerocarson
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:18:45 PM
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i dislike FPS with a great intensity. . .
release date's getting near and we are beginning to see some sincerity. . .

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NonProphet
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:29:01 PM
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Thanks World, I've heard that phrase is nonsense but didn't really think about it when I wrote it. You're correction makes much more sense. It does bother me when people say things like 'irregardless' and 'I could care less', and 'for all intensive purposes' is definitely one of those malapropisms. (Ludicrous misuse of a word, especially by confusion with one of similar sound)

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LowKey
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:36:55 PM
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So, I've decided that in spite of my anger towards Activision, and my 1 beef with IW, that I will be picking MW2 up first day. My beef with IW was their false advertising on COD 4 to get people to sign up to their forums. Then when anybody brought it up in the forums, they were banned. So yeah I am so surprised that some disgruntled banee diddn't try to sue them for false advertisement.

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Juanalf
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:41:26 PM
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FPS Fanboys VS FPS Haters ...LMAO

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www
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 6:00:09 PM

Yea fanboyism will never die even if we have a Universal console.

Universal Console fanboys vs PC fanboys
Fifa fanboys vs Pes fanboys
LIVE fanboys vs 2K fanboys
Arcade fanboys vs Simulation fanboys
Fps fanboys vs Tps fanboys
On and on and on..........

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BattleFox21
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 5:47:05 PM
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I would love to see IW become publishers of their own games I'm sick of them being held back by the likes of EA & Activshit. Kudos to IW. now start publishing ur own & we'll love u even more!!

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Highlightreel
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 8:15:00 PM
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I'd be a bit concerned that this isn't in HD yet and is the same engine. Too much of a good thing actually does get old fast in the gaming world.

Take SOCOM for example. They made Socom 3 then made Combined Assault with basically the same engine and just added some new things (namely vehicles) and that sort of started the end of Socom. (obviously, they didn't care as much as IW about the fans nor did they care to respond to anything, but alas, that is another battle). After a month or a few, it's just the same thing you've been playing for 3 years.

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to_far_apart
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 9:04:46 PM
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Look, let's all be honest, as much as most people claim they all want a longer single player campaign, the thing that they're mostly looking forward to is the online; let's not be naive. I know plenty of people who opened up there COD 4 box and hit up the online without a taste of the campaign. For example, Halo 3, sure it finished the story, but the only reason it sold out so fast and got these amazing ratings is for that amazing online play. Granted, it has a good story, but it's nothing like Halo, Half-life 2, etc. Now, I'm not saying this goes to everyone, I'm just being blunt, but let's not kid around, most people who are buying this are looking for a killer online experience. So people can say all they want about Infinity Ward, but you can't deny the fact that they've done amazing jobs on there games, and arguably have set the standard for online gaming. Look, I'm no big fan of the FPS genre. i mean i like some of the games but it doesn't suit me. I just think that some people should stop with the bashing when in reality they probably care more about the online anyways. Now as for me, I'll take my Unchartered 2 over any game thus far. lol

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___________
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 12:37:56 AM

thats not true.
i never touched the online in COD MW and neither am i in MW2.
the only MP ive plated is R2,KZ2,warhawk and the uncharted 2 beta.
O and the MAG beta

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johnld
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 1:10:03 AM

wow, if you never touched online in modern warfare and modern warfare 2 then you're not going to get your money's worth. The main draw in modern warfare is online. If you played the other online games then why are you planning to skip online on MW2. its already in the box when you buy the game, and i assume you have a ps3 which online gaming is free?

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Godslim
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 4:51:03 AM

have to aggree there the singleplayer was short but epic i luved gaz and the team but the mulitplayer is where cod4 was at!

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___________
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 6:51:53 AM

ive never really enjoyed MP.
ill give it a try, but i doubt ill be on there for long.
but than i said the same thing about KZ2s MP and i was on there without fail 3 hours every day for a month.
i must admit though, theres nothing more satisfying sniping a guy from the other side of the map, than hear him swear his head of at ya.
beautiful!
some people take these things too seriously, its a game for christs sake i cant believe how competitive some people are.

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to_far_apart
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 10:19:01 AM

lol if you read i said it doesn't apply to everyone, im just saying in most cases it does

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eLLeJuss
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 9:47:08 PM
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The only FPS i ever got addicted to was counter strike :D

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 10:01:46 PM

Same here, I missed FIRE IN THE HOLE!

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Mcbever
Tuesday, October 27, 2009 @ 10:04:23 PM
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SHADOW [Moderator]
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 12:40:06 AM

Don't spam the comments section again. This is your only warning.

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___________
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 12:35:35 AM
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yea sure.
IW net cough, cough.
sorry i got a bad cold.

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johnld
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 1:06:31 AM
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I just hope that the harder difficulty levels arent anything like world at war, yes i know it was made by treyarch. But those levels were grenade hell. I got to a checkpoint once where the grenade was about to explode. killed me most of the time i spawned. I said most because when i tried to run out i got shot to death.

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Darwin1967
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 1:22:41 AM
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They certainly pick and choose who they listen to. As an HC player I feel like IW left us out in the cold with now new HC modes for MW. I'm sure PC players also have a thing or two to say about IW's listening abilities. In just two weeks I've gone from really excited for this release to just ho-hum, especially after the Airport video leak...where I feel just a little bit sick.

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Kangasfwa
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 1:36:11 AM
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Does anyone else think that Infinity Ward will attempt to go independent like Bungie did after MW2 releases?

I've also been wondering if Infinity Ward doesn't like Treyarch because they feel that Call of Duty was 'their' series. Makes sense to me after what NonProphet said above--was Modern Warfare supposed to be a new IP?

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Banky A
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 3:55:01 AM
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Good for them.

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Banky A
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 4:33:24 AM

And guys, what's with the FPS war between our awesome PSXE family? Just STFFFFFU.

Plz ;)

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tanner1
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 7:41:49 AM
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Crysis.... what about it? All i know is 4 it to look good u need about £5000 to run it, lol

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ExhumeART
Wednesday, October 28, 2009 @ 5:20:32 PM
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Bullshit! Bring back dedicated servers for the computer!

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formerroadie
Thursday, October 29, 2009 @ 11:36:23 PM
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Too bad IW kiss Microsofts brown crack. I am tired of them catering to the douchebox.

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I don't have the money right now.
I'm happy with other platforms.
I just plain don't want it.

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