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Modern Warfare 2: Most Pre-Ordered Game In History

Pre-orders are always a big deal for GameStop, which is why they should probably send a "thank you" note to Activision.

According to a statement made by executive vice president of merchandising and marketing for GameStop, Tony Bartel, Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 is now officially the most pre-ordered title in the retailer's history. It seems GameStop has raked in around 2.5 million total pre-orders just in the US alone, and as Bartel told USA Today, "the number of pre-order reservations we've taken for the game is the highest for any title we've ever sold in our 6,200-store network." In more good news for huge holiday titles, GameStop is also reporting that reservations for Assassin's Creed II are up 10-20% over the original title, which launched back in 2007. That may not be too significant, though, if you factor in the gigantic difference in the PS3 user base between then and now... But it's still good to see and let's not forget that the first Creed ended up selling over 8 million copies when it was projected to sell only about 3 million. Yeah, it's clearly a good time to be a gamer.

Of course, Activision is still saying that Modern Warfare 2 will not only become the best-selling video game of all time, but it will also have the single biggest entertainment-related launch ever (including movies, music, books, etc.). At this rate, it just might happen.

Related Game(s): Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2

11/3/2009 10:44:30 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (112 posts)

LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 11:02:07 AM
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F.........T.........L

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:20:24 PM

what you said!?!?

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Mornelithe
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:29:20 PM

Agreed LV...very much so. A win for Activision is a lose for everyone else imo.

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bomba2812
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:49:44 PM

so you're saying you want modern warfare 2 to be fail

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Hexen
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 3:15:39 PM

You Ticked about no dedicated servers and full price tag?

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ace_boon_coon
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 3:16:14 PM

this game is going to be awsome. it looks a lot better than the first one FTW!

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Naga
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 5:07:18 PM

Do no want CoD is fail

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Mornelithe
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 4:07:46 AM

@ Bomba2812 - Oh, MW2 is already fail, just wish everyone else saw things the same way I did....in this particular case anyway.

Hexen - Yeah, no dedicated servers = Shit game to me. Couldn't give a rats ass about it now.

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Hezzron
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 11:03:31 AM
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I pre-ordered it, but not from GameStop. I don't trust that grease pit.

It's gonna be fun getting in on this game from launch time.

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SILVERAMMO
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 11:14:12 AM

i agree i preorderd mine at gamecrazy..... i stopped preordering there after a game came out they told me their copies didnt arrive happened two times with two gamed

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:21:55 PM

Silverammo- thats crazy we have completely different stories. i only order from gamestop. i pre ordered from best buy once and my game didnt show up for 2 days, that was COD: MW. then i tried play n trade, and not only did it not show up but they pre ordered the 360 version of army of two for me.

gamestop has not let me down not once. today could be a test though, ussually they have my games i pre-ordered in by 9, and dragon age has yet to show up! uh-oh! then again its only 10:30 here on the west coast so...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 2:43:00 PM

Grease pit, superlol.

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 11:04:21 AM
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Activision is sounding rather cocky. Hopefully this game brings it.

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Nynja
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 11:06:31 AM
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The bigger Activision becomes, the more I dislike them. They're turning into the old EA (and even Sony at one point).

I'd like to see a large publisher buy Infinity Ward. Someone like Square-Enix.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, November 11, 2009 @ 3:18:13 PM

IW is probably worth more than SE is right now

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Imagi
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 11:15:31 AM
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Am I the only one that does not go Baaaa?

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WolfCrimson
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:01:35 PM

nope, you're not alone

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kevinater321
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 2:24:21 PM

i'm here too :)

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SnipeySnake
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 9:06:42 PM

Same.

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chewy102
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 11:33:41 AM
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(shakes head) This is starting to look like the 80s. All of the good/great games over all platforms being replaced with more expensive utter crap one at a time. Back then Nintendo was the one that saved video games, and I thank them for that. But now if crap like this keeps getting shoved down our throats what happened in the 80s will happen again. I just hope we can trust that Sony to keep up with their momentum and produce game after game that can be truly be called "next gen".

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:29:22 PM

If you believe Modern Warfare 2 is "utter crap," you need to straighten your brain out.

Dislike it all you want; this is HARDLY the same situation as the '80s. Maybe you hadn't noticed, but the best games of every year also have the highest sales numbers. Last I checked, that's a GOOD thing.

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chewy102
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 2:36:59 PM

I called MW2 crap because it does not deserve most of it's hype or price. The gameplay might be good (MW was till it got hacked) but gameplay alone shouldn't make the game good. The SP is going to be under 10 hours, MP is going to have the same feel as MW, kill streak perks are just stupid IMO (why punish a losing team), and since it's the same engine Id bet almost anything that most of the old hacks STILL in MW can and will be used within a month in MW2.

Im just one man stating an opinion. I respect that you don't share it but my post wasn't just about MW2. It was about how the gaming industry is starting to look like dark clouds in the distance. First it was the Wii and all of its mass selling shovel-ware and costly attachments that did nothing. Then M$ dumping all but a few first party devs for timed exclusives and exclusive DLC. And now things like Halo3-ODST, MW2, L4D2, RE5 (the versus mode), and most sports games are telling devs and publishers that they can and will make huge profits for something that is little more than a pait job or new in game toys.

Call me a nut/mental if you want. Im just saying what Im seeing, and it doesn't look like any form of a good thing to me if stuff like this keeps up. But Im arguing with an admin, no way in hell I stand a chance.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 2:41:48 PM

You're entitled to your opinion. Everyone is.

But I think you're being far too negative. It'd be one thing if the mass-market games were inferior products, thereby bringing everything down with a developer's realization that gamers are willing to eat up mediocrity by the shovelful. But that has never been the case. Poor games perform poorly on sales charts.

It's difficult for me to be anything but hopeful for the future after the high of playing Uncharted 2. Furthermore, with games in the future like God of War III, Gran Turismo 5, Alan Wake, Heavy Rain, and Final Fantasy XIII, I really don't see how the influx of casual/mainstream gamers is having any impact whatsoever on the inherent quality and growth of the industry's products.

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SnipeySnake
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 9:08:55 PM

What happened in the 80s?

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Mornelithe
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 4:09:40 AM

The game IS inferior Ben. Pretty graphics don't make a game. Period. As we progress through each iteration of CoD, Activision and IW detract from what worked previously, and warp it into something terrible...perks....in a realistic FPS??? Are you kidding me??? No dedicated servers? Yeah, those two alone make it inferior. CoD 1:UO never needed stupid gimmicks to be successful...cause it was just a great game.

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chewy102
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 1:14:48 PM

Snake.

In the mid (?) 80s the entire video game industry almost died due to lack of quality games (no joke, it was very close). Most systems back then could allow anyone to make a halfass game and sell it without a single quality test at full price. If Nintendo didn't have such a grip on what games where released on the NES and didn't have their official seal of quality, there wouldn't be any video game industry today.

Im not one to quote about this anyway, I was to young to remember most of the 80s. There a few books about video game history (Wiki might have the information)and they can tell the story much better than I. That's where I got most of my information from, so I highly suggest that you look it up.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 11:34:15 AM
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Holy Fail.

at least I never going to buy that crap.



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Godslim
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 1:55:28 PM

holy fail on your part ;)

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Oxvial
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 2:14:41 PM

Holy Fail If I buy something I don't like.



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Godslim
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 3:11:45 PM

no holy fail for calling it crap!

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bearbobby
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 3:40:46 PM

Enough, if you're not buying it and consider it crap, why oh why are you posting multiple times in multiple threads stating that fact. It shouldn't matter to you as much as it apparently does.

Yes, you are entitled to your opinion, but please HAVE an opinion. "I'm not buying that crap!" is not an opinion. Why don't you like it? Have you played it? Oh, all games in a genre are all the same, I almost forgot.

I understand that some people don't get excited for certain types of games, but don't write off every game in that genre.

For the record, no, I'm not buying this right off, maybe a little down the road. FPS's are not my first love unless they do something special that appeals to me. I loved Killzone 2, but haven't played it in forever due to other games that appeal to me more like Batman AA, and Uncharted 1&2.

I'm not a fan of top-down RTS's, they do almost nothing for me. But I don't go into threads concerning StarCraft 2 and call it crap. I know it's not crap, I'm sure it's a well made game, just not for me. In those cases I just close the article and move on. Why can't you let it go. You don't like it, you say you don't like it (over and over,) but you don't say why, so who cares?

lol, sorry for the rant. Game on.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 4:02:33 PM

bearbobby @ I already tried to have a formal discussion with FPS fanboys but I got tired they never learn so I just post for the lulz...but at the same time its my opinion so sorry if you get offended.

Godslim @ with you I can't be serious you are a fanboy of this genre.

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bearbobby
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 5:42:11 PM

Not offended, just slightly annoyed.

"I just post for the lulz..."

This is called "trolling," don't be that guy. lol

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Oxvial
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 6:06:38 PM

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sir.

you offended me.

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Godslim
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 4:28:41 AM

no i am not a fan boy of the genre my fav game series happens to be mgs i stand up for it because u troll against in EVERY single post about cod!

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Oxvial
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 12:55:21 PM

blah blah blah yeah you always try to defend yourself talking about Metal Gear like if that would give you weigh to your words.

stand up? that sounds like you are a fanboy .

I'm sure you always get angry when someone talks bad about Call of Duty.



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Godslim
Thursday, November 05, 2009 @ 5:24:19 AM

u sir FAIL!

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Deleted User
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 11:52:51 AM
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Yeah, I wish I could comprehend the hype that Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 and Assassin's Creed 2 are getting. I don't care for either game. I'm more interested in Demon's Souls, Dragon Age: Origins and *GASP* DJ Hero as my future purchases, not these two super-hyped games.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:01:54 PM
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Dumb-Down gameplay for mass appeal.

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Hexen
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:53:08 PM

The gameplay is not really being Dumb-Down; it's just the features(for PC at least).

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BlackBriar
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:05:08 PM
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Gamestop Is the worst! Its really hurting and not helping

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Silent_J
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:06:29 PM
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Im 1 in that 2.5million pre-orders cause I started a little late playing call of duty MW which IMO is a good game.

yeh gamestop does suck ass.I just stared pre-ordering games from Amazon like the god of war collection

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BlackBriar
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:11:53 PM
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The gamestop I know, their rude and dont really help and seem they really hate their jobs. I feel bad, That company doesn't give a crap about them, their expandable and they easily could get another fan of video games to fill in, that's why I hate Lamestop the most. It's sad

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Imagi
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 4:14:38 AM

@ JN_fromGT

Hence why this game will only be a rental for me, not interested in the MP when BFBC2 is on the horizon. Is a lot of cash for 10 hours of entertainment at most.

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BlackBriar
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:20:12 PM
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It's an 10 hour game. Your going to beat it in day and half and for some in a single day.

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Silent_J
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:54:30 PM

yes thats true the single player is gonna be played out very fast but the online multiplayer where most of my time is gonna be spent.

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OxyFenix
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:35:07 PM
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I already knew this would happen. Whenever anything gets to be this famous, a lot of people get sick of hearing it. Some just suck at CoD period, and others are just too deep in their nonconformist world. Now you hear all the hating and demeaning comments about the game. When probably half the people who are hating on it now used to absolutely LOVE the game a year ago. People create hype and fame just to destroy it.

It's modernwarfare 2 guys, give infinity ward some credit, not Activision or the media who elevated and hype things up even more.

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www
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 1:00:42 PM

Exactly what I was about to say!
Same people that build you up like to bring you down. Same way GTA is also getting hate. Same way the Xbots who used to be PS loyalists hate the PS3 cause it came late with a hefty price tag.

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Slimcere
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 3:16:11 PM

Couldn't have said it better


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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 8:44:28 PM

Great posts guys. People just like to go against the grain sometimes even if they like what is popular. I, for one HATE to like what is "in" but I'll never compromise my true feelings in spite of myself. That is just poser.

It is a great game I like Cod because it is a good product. It's MUCH akin to an Xbot because they forever defend and reason not to admit a superior product is to be had. Stop the delusion. Either you plain out suck at FPS's, you dislike the genre or you are just a brash HATER.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 6:42:56 AM

Lol, to bad 'going against the mainstream' has became mainstream now a-days. XD

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www
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 12:56:22 PM
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Pre-Ordered mine at Amazon.

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tanner1
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 1:45:07 PM
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If it weren't for th hefty price tag, it would have been in my library. Oh well :-(

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frostface
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 2:17:45 PM
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This game is gonna be great and it'll have absolutely nothing to do with Activision. It'll be down to the hard work from the Infinity Ward staff who kept Activision out of their vision as much as possible when creating the game. I said it a long time back, it wasn't long ago when mostly everyone played CoD and the first Modern Warfare and dare I say it was even considered cool. The reason why so many are hating now, has more to do with not wanting to support Activision and not based on the finished product.
Everyone's definitely entitled to an opinion, just make sure it's your own opinion and based on the facts about the game itself. There's alot of people who seem to just want to go with the flow incase for some reason they'll be looked down upon by the 'real elitist gamers' who oppose this game for the wrong reason. Oppose Activision and their attitude towards gamers, fine. But don't hate a game you haven't even played yet. Even the most hardcore gamer's who have a superior complex will have to admit that this game is most likely gonna look good, and even if it's not your thing, will entertain millions of other gamers who just so happen to not be in the same league as yis, and from where I'm sitting thats not a bad thing.
Rant Over

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kevinater321
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 2:26:06 PM

For me Activision is simply icing on the cake. The reason I'M not buy is cuz i don't really like fps aside from resistance. And i didn't really like the first game.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 2:53:40 PM

Acti still gets a heaping helping of the profits to make more overpriced peripheral garbage.

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smileylyon
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 2:31:12 PM
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Of course it's the most pre-ordered game! Corporate has been pressuring GameStops employees to cram this game down everyone's throats! I can't wait for the release, that way I won't feel like such a corporate whore!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 2:50:16 PM
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I love how this game is polarizing people. I don't doubt it'll be a good game, if technically inferior. Personally I'm not keen on Activision's ego but I guess hype is part of the business game.

In defense of the folks who are against all this, it is worrisome any time a game releases every year (yes I know there are two teams with different focuses) and there are those of us who hate to follow a trend and just avoid anything that goes uber-mainstream because that often means little more than a re-skin.

I recommend using your dollar the way you wish, I intend to. Meaning IF I get it at any point, it will be at a smaller price with no money going to activision and mainly so I can play it with my brother. Just use your bucks wisely people. Will it matter when Kotex is rolling around naked on his bed in a pile of money? No, but at least my money won't be the bills clinging to his balls.

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bearbobby
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 3:28:58 PM

For that lasting image, you receive a thumbs up.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 3:44:40 PM

Yeah, I know what you're saying about the polarizing. I don't know about you, but I smell elitist gamer mentality. Common and even prevalent amongst those who have been playing for many years, they automatically believe that anything with mass appeal sucks. That may be true in other industries but it has NEVER been true in this one.

I really despise the idea that if a game doesn't cater to the "hardcore," it's immediately inferior to those that do. Why do I get the feeling that a lot of the Demon's Souls lovers condemn Modern Warfare 2...?

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www
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 3:57:13 PM

"Why do I get the feeling that a lot of the Demon's Souls lovers condemn Modern Warfare 2...?"

You said it right! Its like we have folks who support people from underground to probably indie level, as soon as these SAME people become major or mainstream, their same supporters will start bashing them for going mainstream like with musicians, simple.

If Demon Souls were to go mainstream, it'll have the same hate. Remember the hate for Square going multi-plat....

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Oxvial
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 4:49:43 PM

square multiplat?...

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King James
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 4:52:25 PM

LOL..."clinging to balls"

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www
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 5:35:51 PM

Oxvial,
Not multiplat exactly, I'm saying when Square started showing more support for the 360 and leaving PS3 in the cold so to speak.

I know you dont want MW2, dont worry there better games out there, Afrika is an example ;)

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Oxvial
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 5:59:44 PM

yeah I know what you mean .. these last years Square ignored sony base that sucked a lot more than Kotick declarations.

still I'm grateful with Dissidia you don't see too much games like that.



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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 8:56:50 PM

Ben's definition of the situation as elitism rather than polarization fits best. It's much less a belief than it is a reaction to the popularity.

I hate Kottick too, bout as much as I do any communistic, monopolistic, iron fisted douche-bag that has ever walked the earth. BUT a talented group, NEARLY independent, like IW deserve their reward for a game I will lose months of life on. Reward the talent I say.

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Mornelithe
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 6:41:09 PM

But what about the folks with serious beefs with the game itself? Not just fawning over the graphics, but really being bothered by some of what they've done to a revered series?

I'm not sure if WorldEndsWithMe qualifies to this or not, but for me, seriously, I have a problem with matchmaking...I _like_ getting to know a community, maybe even working on maps collectively (Tested the Barbarosa map for UO, with the Afterhourz guys)...not a clan, just a bunch of people who casually played on a bunch of solid servers.

No dedicated server....terrible. No server browsing...what...the...BLEEP. Why? What's the point of that? I really do have a problem, not being able to play games by ping rate. That's pretty important if you can actually see those stats. Ever lag in an FPS? Usually goes away on servers with low ping...I s*** you not.

There are many more issues I have with MW...believe me, you don't even want to open this can of worms. But no, it has nothing to do with elitism.

As for Mass Appeal...I'll say it right here, I play WoW...my character has 162 played days. But...WoW has extreme mass appeal, and I still play the dog**** out of it. You are, however, correct, in that some things that have mass appeal are lame/idiotic/<insert derogatory adjective here>, after all, George W Bush did get voted into office _TWICE_.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 7:30:38 PM

@Mornelithe: I'll ignore the pointless and humorless political comment. And just say that I completely understand what you're saying about the server stuff. (I assume that you are of course talking more about the PC version than anything else.) The old way of doing things on the PC is great, it allows the community of players to interact with the game and each other in ways that simple matchmaking never will. Unfortunately for all the good it also comes with a s***-storm of bad. Not the least of which is the piracy stuff. People with dedicated servers don't have to care if someone is using a legite copy of the game. People can actually torrent CoD 4 and play online. Everytime this happens Blizzivision loses money. It's arguably so bad, that it was either: 1) do a console-style online system or 2) don't release the game on PC. It sucks that PC gamers are tethered down by this, but until someone comes up with a better way to fight piracy on PC it's really Blizzivision's only option.

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Mornelithe
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 8:00:02 PM

@ Shadow : Well, it wasn't exactly without point. It's a similar train of thought to the movie Idiocracy, and in the same vein...it's as humorous as it is scary.

Yes, people who download the game via PC...can play it on a network or a non-dedicated server. But those dedicated servers are not only a bastion of hack/bot/lag free gaming, but as you said they create a community of gamers (Not to mention the crazy mods/maps etc.. that come from such communities). My history does indeed stem from PC usage...however, why can't consoles have dedicated servers? Seriously, they're $300/ea now...you're telling me there's no commercial viability for dedicated racks of PS3/360 gaming servers?

Having the ability to choose the lowest ping available, combined with the variety that the brower + dedicated server combo provide, are essential to FPS games. Even the slightest amount of lag can ruin an otherwise phenomenal experience.

Beyond that, there will ALWAYS be piracy. It won't be stopped. Creating more and more restrictive, closed networks to try and combat it will only take away from the other users enjoyment of the product, as well as increase the possibility of misconduct from the parent company, and remember...the folks doing this are selling one of the hottest selling games of all time right now. Piracy bad or not, is that something they really have a reason to be worried about? I've pirated games before, but for demo purposes. The ones that sucked...gasp, I stopped playing and deleted. The good ones, I went out and bought. (Honestly..is that bad?? I'm not really 100% there...skates a grey?)

I still have to come back to it though Shadow, why remove dedicated servers and server browsing? It servers absolutely no purpose whatsoever.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Thursday, November 05, 2009 @ 2:59:56 AM

No, there might not always be piracy because they might simply stop making PC games. A closed network makes it virtually impossible to play a pirated copy of a game online against others. And games like MW2 are predicated on online play. And while you may only pirate for demo purposes the statistics show that you are clearly in the minority. While I don't no the specific numbers for CoD4 I know that there are some games where there are more pirates playing than there are legitimate buyers. This is a huge issue if you are the one making this game. What real reason do they have to release the game if they are not going to see returns for it? But instead of just abandoning the PC for the much more successful console market exclusively, they gave a different (some may call it gimped) version of the game to at least let PC players experience the game. If anything PC gamers should be thankful.

Now to the general idea of servers. I hate how awful the entire process is. I understand the benefits but i simply don't care. I would rather deal with the occassionally lag-filled matchmaking system then have to search through server lists. That is precisely what has kept me out of online gaming on the PC for years. So its a two-way street the server thing isn't all upside either and clearly there are people who enjoy the new-school way of doing things.

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Mornelithe
Thursday, November 05, 2009 @ 7:37:47 AM

@ Shadow - PC Gaming will never go away...I hope you realize that. It still...to this day, creates the lions share of profit for developers (Do not go by NPD, they don't track online sales). To say _nothing_ of MMO revenue.

You also forget, that it is JUST as easy, in fact EASIER to pirate for the 360 than the PC. Why, you ask? Because you need a serious hack team release in order to actually play the PC rip. Whereas, the 360 requires less than 2 hours of modding (no soldering, no mod chip) and you can download and burn to your hearts content. Let us not forget that the _first_ illegal copy of MW2 currently resides on the 360. NOT, the PC. You know why PC piracy is so rampant? Because people turned a blind eye to it for so long...just as is being done on the 360, eventually it'll be far to rampant for anyone to even hope to combat.

I'm sorry, and I don't mean any offense here, but you don't like server browsing...because of personal opinion. It's not based upon fact. Facts are, dedicated servers and server browsing guaruntee your experience. If people are too lazy, or not interested in taking a the brief few minutes it takes to learn how to navigate through it (Seriously...this is about as hard as turning on your PC...), that's well...that's terrible imo. And speaks volumes to the 'quick fix' mentality ruining a great many things for a great many people this day and age.

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Thursday, November 05, 2009 @ 10:33:06 AM

But here's the difference when/if piracy gets to that point on 360 there is a very simple fix that PC will never be able to do. Release a new console. Also, as much as I hate the way Live is a closed system it gives MS free reign to not only ban users from a specific game but the entire service. And what's more they can ban your hardware specifically meaning no matter what user name you use you'll be unable to play online.

"PC Gaming will never go away...I hope you realize that. It still...to this day, creates the lions share of profit for developers (Do not go by NPD, they don't track online sales). To say _nothing_ of MMO revenue."

For some developers. sure. but not most developers. Infinity Ward makes most of their sales on consoles as do well... most major releases. Believe it or not publishers understand money. If more money was in the PC market the scene wouldn't be shrinking so rapidly.

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Mornelithe
Friday, November 06, 2009 @ 6:24:11 PM

It's not shrinking...it's moving away from retail as primary source of marketing. By normal market analysis the PC gaming market appears weak. However, when you take into account online sales (ebay, amazon, steam etc...), it's actually increasing. In fact, from 2007 to 2008 software sales revenue increased 18% (that's...$1.8 billion dollars more).

What you should remember is that PC's have been part of the online community for much much longer than consoles, can be tapped into by any developer, with virtually no restrictions over the internet. And there are an estimated 228 million PC's capable of playing games worldwide ;)

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NonProphet
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 3:14:08 PM
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WOW! Its sad how many people consistently read and post to the MW2 articles just to spit hate. You'd think they might have something to do besides just rip on a game they don't like.

LimitedIntellingence and the rest of the haters should play MW2 just so all us real fps fans can shoot you in the face.

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Hexen
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 3:25:59 PM
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It's another great installment of the popular, FPS Haters VS FPS Fanboys.

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 9:02:25 PM

Why do you have to be a fanboy to want a good game that happens to be an FPS?

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Hexen
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 9:08:23 PM

FPS Haters VS. FPS Fans

Happy??

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Godslim
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 4:30:29 AM

exactly there are loads of crap fps aswell....and just because mw is epic and u argue that it is when people troll against it.....it makes you a fps fan boy! if u guys were trolling on uncharted or mgs i would do the same

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DIsmael85
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 4:00:45 PM
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Hey first off, I work for Gamestop, let's not bash, you people need to get your priorities straight. Secondly, for all those bashing on COD MW2, get the hell out please, it's a game, if you don't like it fine, but posting multiple times about it being a failure?!? You're acting like babies. The game is massive, it's gonna sell massive, and there is nothing you can do, get over it. Infinity Ward is way better at doing this than Treyarch, and Im buying this game for them, not Activision. Grow up or get out.

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King James
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 4:09:34 PM

...Said the rational GameStop employee.

Ismael, you should let it go. This happens everytime the community bashes your company. Its gonna happpen regardless of how good your store is.

In the words of Chris Rock, "If someone steps on your new sneakers...Let it sllliiiiidddddeeee."

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King James
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 4:05:49 PM
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Preordering mine today on Amazon. No Tax FTW!

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King James
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 4:53:44 PM

What is say?...No tax?

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King James
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 3:03:58 AM

I just finished my Pre-Order. And Amazon gives you $20 off your next game purchase so thank you again PSXE. You reminded me to pre-order it b4 it was too late.

*big thumbs up*

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LittleBigMidget
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 4:51:17 PM
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MW2 is garbage. Yeah I said it! *Runs away quickly*

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King James
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 4:53:06 PM

"Hey! Get back here!"

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Oxvial
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 6:03:34 PM

run and live! to tell others the truth!

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DGo8
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 5:07:02 PM
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People are only gonna buy this game coz everyone loves the online part of tha game.. and in my eyes in terms of online..Killzone 2 is better...so is Uncharted2

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King James
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 3:01:02 AM

I always play though CoD's campaign 1st before I go online.

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DGo8
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 5:08:45 PM
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..i wont be buying this game i was nearly gonna but im not now not at all its not tha game..its Activision i dis-like... they are indeed tha NEW EA..and that coment about Sony being tha hated or dis-liked at some point why?!? i've always loved Sony!

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BlackBriar
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 5:11:44 PM
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I know, people will always speak their mind and gamestop sucking might be it.Why so serious?

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 5:48:24 PM
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Modern Warfare 2 will be the best CoD no doubt but whether they can go better than this is still in doubt.

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frostface
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 6:10:14 PM

I believe no matter how well developed we the consumers of these games might think a game is, the developers are always trying to out-do their last piece of work (or at least some of them try).
Just take the comments from Naughty Dog about how Uncharted 3 will be even better then U2.
I believe Infinity Ward can and do adapt to this mentality if only on CoD MW games. What I would like to see though is the IW guys proving that they are more then this series by branching into another genre other than FPS's.

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NonProphet
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 6:24:39 PM
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I've haven't heard of this game, is it supposed to be good?

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frylock25
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 7:57:50 PM

eh only so-so.

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bearbobby
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 9:09:29 PM

The book was better...

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Banky A
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 9:25:50 PM

Haha.

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frylock25
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 8:02:07 PM
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honestly i dont hate this game it just has never got me excited. i also am not big on playing online. i buy games to play the single player. i want a story and excting game play. i dont always have to be shooting something to have a good time playing a game. a game here and there will suck me into the online game play but never holds me like i have seen some of my buddies with their xboxs.

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SnipeySnake
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 9:13:54 PM

Same here.

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SnipeySnake
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 9:15:26 PM
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I have a idea for the next poll. What do you like better? Realistic games or Unrealistic games?

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Banky A
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 9:25:20 PM
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Well, duh.

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FoReVeR_0515
Tuesday, November 03, 2009 @ 9:56:16 PM
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I bought Call of Duty 4 a few days after it came out, just by hearing someone else talk about it and it sounded like a good game to me. As far as I knew, there was no hype for this game. So I went and bought it, and I was highly impressed.

I played through the campaign, and it was awesome. Short maybe, but great nonetheless. And the multiplayer? I was addicted, for quite a while. I believe it was a combination of things, but it just got me. Especially playing with a couple of friends, leveling up and unlocking new things, the gameplay itself, etc.

If FPSs aren't your cup of tea, I wouldn't expect you to like it. They can hype it all they want, I was looking forward to this one before they had any info on it. If the multiplayer is at all an improvement over their previous and the story mode is better(which I believe will be), then I'll be happy.

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King James
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 3:01:18 AM

Go Mavs!

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Xplicit
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 4:39:26 AM

The story mode is fairly boring and takes around 5 hours to complete.

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FoReVeR_0515
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 8:11:08 AM

Aside from the enemies infinitely re-spawning if you didn't advance, I quite liked the story mode, though it was short.

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___________
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 12:38:09 AM
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well i was not going to get MW2, but since R&C is not coming out till the 12th ill give MW2 a go and R&C a miss.
same, i was really looking forward to finishing the storyline and finding out about ratchets past.

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Dancemachine55
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 5:06:15 AM
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I preordered my copy, Prestige Edition believe it or not. And I am looking forward to it, very much.

I enjoyed the first Modern Warfare. Modern Warfare 2 looks great IMO. And quite frankly, I have more fun with COD4 than I do with any Halo game. Except Killzone 2, but seeing as it's PS3 exclusive, you really can't compare, it's on a level of its own now.

For those going to thumb me down, please refrain. As much as it pains me to give some of my money to Activision, it makes me happy to reward Infinity Ward for their hard work. They do deserve it.

Activision will not see a penny from me for World at War 2, I didn't even bother with COD World at War. Just looked like a WWII reskin of Modern Warfare with a few vehicles thrown in for good measure. And Nazi Zombies? Pfft, not interested, I got enough Zombie games to keep me happy. (Left 4 Dead not included, my God that was painfully average, not bad, but not great either)

I think Modern Warfare 2 does deserve the hype, but think about it. The hype is from us, the players, the fans. All that's come out is a few trailers, maybe some leaked stuff, but a lot of games do that. It's obviously not the marketing, its the hype created from the first Modern Warfare.

As for the night-vision goggles, it'll be interesting to see if they're any good, otherwise I've just wasted a lot of money. And last thing I want is to give Activision more of my hard earned money. I'd rather put it towards Heavy Rain, God of War 3 or Gran Turismo 5. Or even Mass Effect 2 or Bioshock 2.

If Activision don't bring something new to the table soon, they will see a huge decline in sales numbers and reputation. Maybe not this year, or even next year for that matter, but it will eventually happen.

I'm already talking up Lego Rock Band over Band Hero at EB Games, winning people over by telling them MTV are working on it and there are hundreds more tracks to download with better and more popular songs.
Alas, Rock Band is very unpopular here in Australia, and Activision is much loved for its Guitar Hero and Call of Duty.

Shame that no one knows about Activision and their monetary greed. I guess they're riding the "ignorance is bliss" business model for now.

Just keep in mind that it is the fans and gamers creating this much hype around Modern Warfare 2. Infinity Ward have a lot up against them. If it's too much like the first Modern Warfare, they'll be slaughtered. If it's too different from the first Modern Warfare, they'll be slaughtered.
It's tought being a games developer for a sequel, especially if it's a popular sequel. My condolences to Infinity Ward for going through with this dangerous task.

So, yes, buying it. I like the tight controls and the way the game feels. The story is pretty good and the graphics look pretty sweet too, even if resolution is sacrificed for frame rate, but I honestly like smooth gameplay IMO.

Quite frankly, short stories in a game work better for busy people like me. While Demon Souls and White Knight Chronicles look fantastic, I just have no time for them. So Modern Warfare 2 is a good choice for people busy like me.

One last problem, I'm getting the PS3 version (obviously) but all my friends are getting the 360 version of Modern Warfare 2, which means I can't play against them. Should I sacrifice getting the version for the more reliable console just so I can play against friends for a few months? I can't decide!!!!

Get the PS3 version and not worry about RRoD? Or play with friends on 360 but worry about RRoD and having to get the PS3 version anyway while waiting for my 360 to be fixed? Playing with friends or reliability???? I can't decide!!!!!!!!

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SHADOW [Moderator]
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 7:34:26 PM

That was one of the most meandering posts I've ever read. You were all over that map. anyway, if all your friends play it one 360 and you've got an Xbox. That's the system you should probably get it on. What's the point in having a 360 laying around if you're not going to use it out of fear that it'll break?

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Mr Bitey
Wednesday, November 04, 2009 @ 2:29:51 PM
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Activision needs to take a cue from Naughty Dog and make a proper sequel. Not just a thrown together annual rehash, but actually make worthwhile improvements.

Supposedly the game doesn't have dedicated servers and they did away with the co-op that was promised.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, November 11, 2009 @ 3:22:29 PM

You do understand that it's not an annual rehash right? They have rotating teams so each team brings out a game every two years. They don't even like each other much less work together and that's why you see start diffrences on how they handle things

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shootu
Monday, November 09, 2009 @ 1:08:38 AM
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I thought this game was goin to be FPS and TPS? If thats true then that WAR is over and ALL SHOOTERS GAMES should be that way. Not hard to do. As for the COD haters you F@GS JUST SUCK! COME AND PLAY JUST SO I CAN KICK YOUR ASS! Oh wait you cant cause you dont know how to play a REAL GAME B!TCHES!

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Wednesday, November 11, 2009 @ 3:23:48 PM
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Best selling game? I think Wii Play will have some 50 million more copies than this game will ever have.

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Subtracterall
Monday, November 16, 2009 @ 12:09:24 AM
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why are people complaining about a higher price and no dedicated servers when this is a PLAYSTATION site?

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