3D Functionality Coming To PS3 Via Firmware Update
Wipeout HDI still think trying to play a game like Wipeout HD in true 3D would be almost terrifying but nevertheless, the option is coming.
We had heard that 3D gaming would be coming to the PlayStation 3 next year although details remained sketchy. Well, we now have more of a confirmation of sorts; according to GameSpot, this unbelievable feature will actually be made available to all PS3s via firmware update. We have no idea when this might be, but we know we have to wait for the first 3D-enabled Bravia HDTVs, which are set to be available to consumers towards the end of next year (won't do you much good to have a 3D-enabled PS3 without a compatible TV). During a presentation yesterday, it became clear that every console out there would receive an update that would allow all 3D games to work. That line of futuristic games is still being planned but it's definitely on the horizon as well, so it's a bold new world out there. And remember, this technology will also be applied to certain titles that are already available; we've seen examples using Wipeout HD, for instance, and there are other games that may receive the 3D overhaul.
All of this seems like a huge step for the industry but I really have to get immersed in one of these before I decide for myself. I keep thinking I'll need some time to get...acclimatized.
11/19/2009 9:15:10 PM Ben Dutka
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ohmikkie
Saturday, November 21, 2009 @ 3:12:29 PM
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Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 9:59:21 PM
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Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 10:08:42 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 10:17:43 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 10:16:57 PM
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As long as I don't bloody well have to pay extra for it. Sony can rot in hell if they think they're getting another penny from me. Free gaming FTW!!
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Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Sony is really pushing ahead in this 3D stuff. Makes me wonder whether they have stolen a leap on others...
As for 3D immersion itself, I worry about motion sickness. full 3D may cause significantly more gamers to experience motion sickness - especially in games like Wipeout HD/Fury.
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Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 10:26:46 PM
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Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 10:20:56 PM
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Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 10:27:03 PM
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Highlander
Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 10:27:24 PM
I do know it's not done using colored filters like the old blue/red glasses from the 3D movies of the 50s.
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Qubex
Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 11:38:35 PM
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Qubex
Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 10:23:56 PM
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There will also be an issue with RAM again... unless they have amazing stream in / stream out compression algorithms that permit the ability for the system to flick through double the amount of pixel information per second...
Anyway, will be interesting to see. I just find it difficult to believe that hardware wise the PS3 has enough processing and graphics bandwidth that will permit a game like Uncharted 2 or Killzone 2 to retain their current visualisation resolution, colour depth and frame per second rates whilst still able to render a full real 3D gaming experience!
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Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 11:41:35 PM
I am nooooooo rush...
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Qubex
Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 11:46:24 PM
It all depends if you have to have that urge of having something right now... but I don't believe it is value for money doing that...
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___________
Thursday, November 19, 2009 @ 11:16:53 PM
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i will finally be able to live out that add they put onto the PSN after release.
staring down a sniper barrel than watch the bullet come hurling towards your face.
also i remember sony saying a while ago that there exploring a way to get the ps3 to render the frames that way you wont need a 3D TV just one that supports 200hz minimum, like how the 3D Nvidia stuff works.
if you have to buy a new tv for it, than it will never catch on even if their dirt cheap because well most people just bought a new tv.
hope they are cheaper though, not like LED TVs there a complete utter rip off!
samsung 40 inch full HD LCD tv $2000
samsung 40 inch full HD LED tv $3600
sony bravia 40 inch full HD LCD tv $2300
sony bravia 40 inch full HD LED tv $3800
got that from the new JBHIFI catalog today.
yea LED tvs are better, they produce much better colors.
but $1500 better?
i dont think so.
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Imagi
Friday, November 20, 2009 @ 3:45:44 AM
I am looking for a new TV so will be looking out for any compatible models with the 3D. I use to have some 3d glasses for my PC setup, did not use it as much as I thought I would due to headaches and eye strain after prolonged use also needing to lower the resolution to keep the frame rate and refresh rate high, was rather good though :)
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___________
Friday, November 20, 2009 @ 7:37:03 AM
and they use less power up to 35% for the high end ones.
3D tvs wont be out till this time next year though, if i was you i would wait till then.
if you cant maybe get a cheapie till the 3D tvs come out.
thats the problem with tvs though theres always new tech coming out.
i remember a few years ago my father needed a new TV and knew LCDs were comming waited ages for them to come out,than got tied and got a CRT.
than LCDs came out within a month.
than LEDs, soon OLEDs than 3D Tvs and laser TVs well they were suppose to be out last year.
if i was buying a new tv i would wait for laser TVs since they offer the best colors, and contrast ratio but no one knows when they will be out.
so if your waiting on them your probably going to be waiting a while.
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Friday, November 20, 2009 @ 6:17:55 AM
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was also looking into finding a new tv if anyone can recommend a good 26 to 32 inch. i do my own research but i value the opinions of this community as there are some very smart people around here. i like the sony bravias but hear mixed things about them. LG almost feels like the way to go.
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Fane1024
Saturday, November 21, 2009 @ 3:33:52 PM
I also have a four-year-old 26" Toshiba HD-CRT, which is fine (and a good choice at the time), but I would buy an LCD if I were getting it now.
Sharp makes some excellent LCDs.
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herukuti
Saturday, November 21, 2009 @ 3:34:00 PM
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the offset that is required to trick the brain into thinking 2 different planes are existing within the plane used to create the effect, is the mode for presenting "3d" as of now.there is curently no way to properly express volume and mass with current stereo 3d, so regardless of the methods of presenting stereo changing, stereo will never be able to show a mass or volume in projection.
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Fane1024
Saturday, November 21, 2009 @ 3:50:00 PM
The worlds are already built in 3D within the computer (at least as wireframes) and then "photographed" to produce the 2D image shown on the monitor.
I don't think any new technique is necessary, though I would like to see the sort of generation of objects with "true" mass and volume that you reference (and of which systems like DMM are precursors) become the norm.
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herukuti
Saturday, November 21, 2009 @ 8:26:02 PM
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the worlds in a computer are 3d(that are made to be such); and depending upon your hardware, look like 3d without a projection of mass or volume.
i feel this technique(stereo3d), which is outdated, is fundamentally(literally) incompatible with the 3d realms created within a space.so, the 3d realms created within a space can never be projected from outside a space through a distortion of space itself;my conjecture.however a space that is likened to a 3d realm can be composited and viewed, and i believe the technology present today is years beyond stereo 3d: that makes this possible.
if you have ever attempted to use stereo with todays high end presentations you encounter artifacts.while this may be true, stereo is still viable for presentations. i just feel it is old and incompatible, and know that "real"3d projection can be possible using means that are not new.
a new method: for example, could be; as mentioned, a composite with stereo point being the place holder for the cycles of refresh being the use of projection. so i would call it composite 3d and the technology present could present all the content that is software through a different means of hardware.of course then, all means of interaction would change, the way games are now presented in 3d from a planar perspective without stereo would be compatible but the method of interaction would differ greatly with composite 3d. it would probably be safe to wear glasses(jk).
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Lordnicon
Sunday, November 22, 2009 @ 11:20:04 AM
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I understand the draw to boost sony television sales but they know a lot of people wont be able to just drop their current unit and thats why its going to be a free firmware update (which we are assuming at this point) and i think thats fair. As long as the 3D games a playable in a non 3D format and good without, im more than happy.
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