Devs Standing Firm On Uncharted 2 Multiplayer Rules

Naughty Dog hates quitters. They just didn't like the fact that players could leave online matches in Uncharted 2: Among Thieves and not have to suffer any consequences.

Therefore, they implemented a new - and very strict - rule in order to deal with the problem: if you quit, you'll be fined $40,000. Now, you do get one free pass so feel free to drop the match in frustration when you first start playing. But every time after that, it's gonna cost you and a lot of gamers are none too happy about this policy, which unfortunately doesn't work to 100% functionality. The problem is, if you suddenly lose your Internet connection, or the power goes out, or the console freezes up, or whatever, it will be treated as a "quit," and you'll lose $40k. Obviously, this has caused a few irate gamers to speak up but according to Examiner, Naughty Dog ain't budging on their stance. Said Arne Meyer:

"Currently we’re confident we’ve made the right decision regarding penalties for leaving the match—remember you don’t get docked any cash for the FIRST time. We’re keeping a close eye on in-game stats and forums and we will make adjustments if and when we feel they are warranted."

Well, at least they're keeping an eye on things and if you make a big enough stink about it, they might return your lost money. They're also not ignoring the complaints; they're simply standing by their decision and there will be no backing out. So what do you say? Too strict? Or is this the best way to deal with the quitters who can have negative effects on a match?

Related Game(s): Uncharted 2: Among Thieves

11/24/2009 10:39:15 AM Ben Dutka

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JofaMang
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 10:51:34 AM
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It is about time there was real penalties in an online game for dropping out of a match before it is done. Bravo.

Sucks for people with crap connections, but again, if your connection sucks, online gaming is a pipedream in any form.

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johnld
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 6:02:41 PM

it doesnt take that much work to get nat 2. guides are even online. If you know this info and not do anything about it then you deserve the penalty. Dont screw up my gaming experience because you're too lazy to do it right. This is not aimed at you by the way.

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photo K
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 1:57:38 PM

Maybe the ND devs were playing online and were getting shafted by cheaters so they became jaded and put this rule in place.

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BTNwarrior
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 10:59:41 AM
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I really wish they would start doing this in Modern Warfare 2. There is not much that I hate more than having the entire enemy team quit just because they are not winning.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:19:54 AM

I quit matches all the time if I am lagging bad.

I am not going to sit there through an unenjoyable experience.

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Naztycuts
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:23:27 AM

I couldn't agree more BTN I was just telling my friends on MW2 about this last night, I wish IW wasnt so biased towards M$ because if they weren't they would probably at least consider something like this. I hate quitters

Last edited by Naztycuts on 11/24/2009 11:25:13 AM

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:58:10 AM

That's a problem in most online multi-player team based games. I'm not sure that there is a good solution except profiling user quit patterns and penalizing people based on their actions and pattern.

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 10:48:36 PM

LOL! This should be in MW2!!! 3X it has happened where the host is gettin whooped bails and Right In The Middle of my predator missile strike. What happens? After you connect to a different host it's like the stike never existed!!!

Also, once when it was changing hosts I was wrecking mid-game 26 kills it reconnected with me having zero!!! I was the only person that it chose pick on, btw!

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Arvis
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 10:59:48 AM
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Shouldn't there be a simple way to differentiate between a network error and someone simply choosing the "quit" option?

...I guess a player could just turn off the console or exit the game entirely and it would probably register the same as a network error would.

Hmm...

-Arvis

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JofaMang
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:08:33 AM

Or pull the plug from the modem to the Router, lag switch style. It's been tried in many games, but gives the cheaters a really easy way to create lag for their own benefit.

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Nynja
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:11:37 AM

Not really. I know people who simply turn off their PS3 or quit the game to XMB which would cause a network time-out that could look like a network failure.

.... and I just read the second part of your comment. Nevermind.

Last edited by Nynja on 11/24/2009 11:12:11 AM

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www
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:09:48 AM
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I've suffered from this punishment already, since then I never went back, I was busy beating the campaign on Hard and am done now. With Multiplayer, I think Fifa 10 and MW2 already got my hands full.

Last edited by www on 11/24/2009 11:10:03 AM

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big6
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:14:32 AM
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Kudos for Naughty Dog in sticking with their decision. The "irate fans" are almost always the cheaters who want to rank up fast, or who want to have great k/d ratios for bragging rights.

I wish more games would do this. Also, I wish there was a way for a server to detect people using glitching techniques or switches to help them cheat. Soooo annoying!

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:42:33 AM

Speaking as an irate gamer who got penalized, I have to disagree completely because I am neither a cheater nor someone who has ranked up quickly. My 'sin' was to have the game glitch on me and lock up leaving no alternative but quitting. Of course that was when you got the penalty even on your very first 'quit'. But, it's not much fun to lose your rank and score because of a game or network glitch. It's all very well to be righteous about cheaters, but NG are being too draconian. At least a 3 strikes and your out policy would allow a small number of software or network glitch quits before a penalty occurs. If someone is cheating, they'll quit a darn sight more than three times.

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johnld
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 6:06:15 PM

wouldnt naughty dog have information on whole games glitching? If they dont then they should so that honest people wont get penalized. I was wondering if this counts the people who team kill too much and automatically get kicked out.

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jaybiv
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:16:24 AM
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I like the idea in theory. Quitters are the worst, especially in a game like MW2 where an entire team can bounce and leave one guy against six others. Not fun!

Perhaps this is the beginning of a system that will analyze players quitting habits over a period of time to determine who the quitters really are so adequate punishment can be laid down on them.

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johnld
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 6:07:20 PM

it is pretty fun when it becomes me against 6 people. i just bring out my lmg, cold blooded perk, scavenger, and ninja.

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maxpontiac
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:22:21 AM
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I love the idea, but since Uncharted 2 runs a Peer 2 Peer server system, I don't know if I stand behind that idea or not.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:44:42 AM

They need to at least have a three strikes and you're out policy, or use their servers to determine if someone quits regularly before imposing a penalty.

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EddPm6
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:22:44 AM
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where not talking real money right? that would be bullshit. i havent played the game and dont plan to.

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JofaMang
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:24:08 AM

Hahaha, you just made my day. Keep it Real!

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Jawknee
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 6:51:08 PM

Shame on you.

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Troy Powers
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:30:39 AM
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I've already been fined the 40 grand, and I think it sucks. In the middle of a game, I had to go help my daughter with something. Life happens. And plenty of things in life will enterfere with you trying to play a video game. I don't know about anyone else, but it takes me a decent amount of time to rack up $40,000.

Loosing $40,000 after it took you an hour or more to earn it, especially if you only play a couple hours a week, will make you seriously reconsider whether or not you want to bother playing a game any more.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:43:47 AM

Agreed. I had the game lock up and all I could do was use the menu to quit, none of the controls would work and the game session itself was frozen. I got the penalty and was irate. Still ticked about it.

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www
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 1:13:25 PM

True, that 40,000 is too much!

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 3:02:46 PM

How do you know if you have been docked the $40,000? Does it alert you the next time you log in that you have been docked, or do you guys keep an eagle eye on how much you have earned, and you know right away you have been docked?

I play it quite a bit, but to be honest, I would not notice being docked money unless I was alerted to the fact.

I have dropped out a few times. Never in the middle of a game, but when it is setting up the game, and it is looking for players, or just loading settings before the match begins, and like Troy, I have kids, and I have had to quit the game to attend to them.

Do you get docked only if you are in the middle of a game, or how about you have to bow out even before guns are drawn so to speak?

Last edited by MyWorstNightmar on 11/24/2009 3:03:52 PM

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 3:56:51 PM

@MWN
Yeah, you get a notification the next time you go into Multi-player.

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jlch777
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 10:45:01 PM

I am having some problems with this game online sometimes when the game start i cant move the character, it freeze up and i can do anything. i see the others players moving and they can kill me but i cant do anything. Sometimes i get a connection error message or sometimes i have to quit. I get the 40,000 penalty because of a glitch with the game and on top of that i cant rank up, that is frustrating. I have checked my connection, i have deleted the update data and installed again but its the same. Any body else having this problem?
By the way I can play MW2 and KZ2 with no problems online.
So they have to reconsider this penalty system its taking me out of the game!

Last edited by jlch777 on 11/24/2009 10:46:18 PM

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LowKey
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:33:18 AM
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MW 2 needs to start banning quitters. Since I got it I have never had a full 6 on 6. People always leave right after the match starts. Its a peal pain. It may seem really harsh but with the way some idiots are on MW 2 I think it is necessary. They'll just keep doing it without a care.

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Bagmup
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 3:06:46 PM

I check the connection when the match starts, if it's a red bar, why the hell would i stay?

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godsman
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:43:06 AM
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I don't think this is fool proof, I've seen people kill their teammates until they get kicked. This just irritates me more.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:49:34 AM

The problem is the dorks that don't revive team mates. I played with one the other night, after being left hanging around for 10 minutes twice in the same game, I got annoyed enough to start taking potshots. Yes, I know I was left hanging, the dork was within a hands reach of me but made no attempt to revive me and was level 20-odd, so there's no way he didn't know how to revive.

Next time maybe I will take a potshot at someone who does that, or accidentally toss a grenade when they're standing next to a bad guy....oopsie.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:47:14 AM
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It's too strict because it doesn't grant any grace in the case of a network or game failure. I've had the game lock up in a multi-player session and all I could do was quit. It's the one and only time I have ever quit, and I got a penalty for it.

If you're going to impose a painful penalty, then you must take some measures to ensure you're not hurting gamers who have done no wrong, because those are the gamers who will get annoyed and not come back. NG seems awfully righteous and pious about this, but not very considerate.

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556pineapple
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:50:25 AM
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What about leaving a matchmaking game to answer to a friend's invite? I don't like to make them wait for me if I can avoid it.

Last edited by 556pineapple on 11/24/2009 11:50:53 AM

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:52:33 AM
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Guess I'll be staying out of the online part, o well. Maybe they should have left it off the game if they are gonna be like that.

Last edited by WorldEndsWithMe on 11/24/2009 11:57:13 AM

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Jawknee
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:57:58 AM
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I think it also deducts a level from you. Or maybe I was less then 40k into my next level and that's why it was deducted?

I agree with high, they should if they can figure out away to make the system recognize freeze ups. I do like the idea in general though. I've never had any lagging issues online with U2. I really do hate it when people start to quit the match. If too many quit the match ends or were stuck with uneven teams.

I've noticed a great majority leave because they suck. They take off halfway into the match, and when I look at their score they don't have any kills and massive deaths. THOSE people should be punished. Not people like High who have had freeze ups in the past.

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BTNwarrior
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 11:58:18 AM
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I've been thinking, and they should really keep the penalties but renew your 1 quit every month or so.

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Aftab
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 1:09:46 PM

Yeah, or at least once a week. My router often has to be resetted to respond, and this happens like once a week for me.

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 3:11:22 PM

Not to mention, if you are using the WiFi in the PS3, that is decidedly less reliable than a hard wired LAN connection. That could be the cause of a lot of dropped connections for users.

Last edited by MyWorstNightmar on 11/24/2009 3:11:58 PM

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 3:57:53 PM

@MWN
Wireless routers are definitely responsible for a lot of the lag on network connections, it wouldn't surprise me if they were also the cause for a lot of drops.

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Aftab
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 5:27:50 AM

I don't think it's the ps3's wireless internet adapter, because every time I lose connection, I lose it on my ps3 as well as my laptop.

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___________
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 7:12:06 AM

im the other way around.
i spent 300 bucks on a high end wireless N router and ever since my internet on my iphone or laptop or my fathers laptop never drops out.
my ps3 on the other hand.
at least once every hour or so.
reason why i dont bother playing online anymore.

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BTNwarrior
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 12:56:08 PM

do you have media server connection activated, cause for some reason that causes the ps3 to drop on some wireless routers. I used to have the same problem and disabling the media server connection fixed it. eventually I moved and got a new router and it didn't do it anymore.

Last edited by BTNwarrior on 11/25/2009 12:57:09 PM

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___________
Thursday, November 26, 2009 @ 6:15:02 AM

yea ive got it disabled same with the information bar for some reason that can cause problems too.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 12:00:26 PM
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Sweet! :)
Capcom should do this with SFIV

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tlpn99
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 12:31:30 PM
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Yeah but what about the genuine people who do freeze or lose the net connection. It's only virtual $40,000 anyway so who cares lol.
I can see people moving away from playing online with games that do this and play something else.

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NoSmokingBandit
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 12:41:26 PM
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They should give one free quit a week instead of one free quit for life. That way people with crap connections arent permanently screwed over but it still punishes the constant quitters.

Last edited by NoSmokingBandit on 11/24/2009 12:41:55 PM

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Deleted User
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 1:33:36 PM
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I like it, and yes I've disconnected, magical in-game money isnt a big deal to me, its not like its my livelyhood

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Larsperson
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 1:56:56 PM
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Seems like a decent idea in theory but as alot of you have said it will punish many people who just happen to have bad connections or game freezes. I suck at online shooters but don't like to quit rounds even when im getting destroyed (often).

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Andysw
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 3:12:45 PM
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Why would a player quit an online match? Is it because they suck or something?

I don't know because I don't have the game.

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djbool
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 3:34:21 PM

Yeah that's why. People will quit if they are losing pretty bad. I've never had someone say they are leaving for a good reason before

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Squirreldriver
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 3:18:26 PM
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While I love idea of penalizing the lousy quitters, ND really needs to be a little more flexible. I'd never bail on a game, but the other day I had a network error 10 seconds into a co-op game that booted everyone. So if that happens again I'm gonna drop a level?! It's not just the virtual money as many have pointed out. It's the leveling up to unlock extra stuff that I'm worried about.

I propose a 3 strike limit per week and a griefing system so we can help police ourselves. As much as I love U2, this will deter me from playing online much.

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NeoHumpty
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 3:36:53 PM
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$10,000, maybe. I've only quit two games of U2. My connection died once and the other I needed to go to the restroom. Not much I could do about either. $40,000 is a lot of money. At least let people have 3 quits per month or something similar.

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artson1966
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 3:46:23 PM
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It's too stricked in my book most players i have seen dropping out of a match is do to some wise ass kids cussing and splurting out insults to other player calling them fags criticing thier play rudely friendly fire killing tammates ect. One of the big reasons i don't even play uncarted online anymore even though it is one of teh few multiplayers i actaully like. maybe they should work on clean up the nasty players instead....

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 4:00:10 PM

Mute all the other players before the session starts, I find it's beautifully peaceful once I do that.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 4:33:24 PM

Gotta love the mute button.

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 4:59:55 PM

Yeah, I love the baby crying in the background you always hear. Put the controller down, tend to the kid, and let me find you so I can get an easy kill! I need all the help I can get... =)

Last edited by MyWorstNightmar on 11/24/2009 5:00:21 PM

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Deleted User
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 7:43:11 PM

yep, "Mute All" for the win, I use that feature alot

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 10:08:20 PM

LOL! Of course our use of the mute all is the reason that Valve think that the PS3 community isn't as good because we're all muting the VOIP to avoid the morons, so our games tend to be more quiet and thoughtful. Personally, I prefer a community that knows when to be quiet, certainly XBL is not such a place

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telly
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 4:17:25 PM
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Having not played Uncharted 2 yet (it's on the Christmas list) I can only assuming we're talking about $40,000 in GAME money, right ;) Seriously, though, great idea. Somebody's kicking your ass, deal with it. Don't back out like a petulant baby. Good for Naughty Dog for putting pressure on those guys. I understand sometimes your connection goes screwy and I think they'll have a fix in place for that eventually. But on the whole, great move.

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godsman
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 4:20:51 PM
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I noticed that there were less players online. There were a solid 10k, now there's half. I hope it's some other reason like MW2, and not because they hated this 40k deduction.

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 4:59:48 PM

Yeah, I'm hoping that there's some DLC soon to boost the numbers, and a GOTY award wouldn't hurt either. Nor would a GOTY edition of the game...

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Hezzron
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 6:54:06 PM

The co-op was good, but short. The rest wasn't too entertaining.

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shaydey77
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 5:10:20 PM
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I like this. Even though my connection is crap and i know im gonna lose some cash i have the peace of mind of knowing it wasnt my fault.ll get over the loss of the money as long as they dont decide to impliment a ban over time due to constant 'quitters'. then my voice will be heard.

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 6:56:03 PM
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i absolutely love it! this is why naughty dog is great! They stick to what they know, and they know its gosh dang irritating when people quit matches!

In MW2 it just counts as a loss and u dont get you match bonus, so what! You constantly switch hosts which is a nice addition, but 75% of the time you just get kicked from the game! Also if your winning people constantly leave and even though the number of people playing is huge, its hard to fill a room, when u have a party of 4!

Great job naughty dog!

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kirobz
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 8:10:51 PM
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I haven't really played Uncharted 2 since I got DC once. I don't like the idea of losing my money because of my connection. I'm really saddened since Uncharted 2 is a great game. And it really is on the top of my list.:( I hope they do some workaround on it. And actually, I like it when teammates quit. More kills for me right. :D

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Highlander
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 10:09:41 PM

Write to them and tell them. The only way it'll change is through feedback.

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___________
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 1:44:25 AM

way to fix their wagon.
just stop playing.
when the servers turned into a dust ball watch how fast they remove it.
thats one thing i cant stand about society these days they b**** and b**** and b**** and b**** about something till their face turns blue.
but do they do anything about it?

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MadKatBebop
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 8:25:14 PM
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I'm sorry but I just simply don't like this. Ive never quit a match but I have been disconnected before a couple of times, and to loose $40k is not fair to the players who have spent night and day into UC2 multiplayer who get disconnected and loose a good portion of their cash. Their has to be a better way to do this, if this happens to me over connection issues I will probably just stick with KZ2 & MW2 multiplayer.

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 12:22:14 AM

it depends how you look at it? i understand 40k is alot but im sure maybe they'll figure some way to count in disconnects.

heres why i think its great! MW2 is horrible with disconnects and people quitting! if a team is losing half that team always quits, then its rtediculously hard to fill that room back up! ive waited in a lobby for 5 min, waiting b4 and it never fills, people join then wait 5 sec. leave and its a constant hassle. second even though it counts asa loss people dont care, something else needs to be enforced! Lastly the whole switching hosts in UC2 works great but in MW2 its horrible. It might be oke if your by yourself but 75% of the time if im in a party one of us will get kicked from the game while its switching hosts. the servers in MW2 are awful. in fact i havnt evperienced worse servers in awhile (operation flashpoint was the worst ever by far though). The game is absolutely awesome and will have me coming back for a blot longer than MW or a lot of other games but the servers are terrible!

Something like this needed to be done, and i congradulate naughty dog for the effort to stop this completely annoying and uncalled for non sense of quitting!

Last edited by bigrailer19 on 11/25/2009 12:23:04 AM

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Banky A
Tuesday, November 24, 2009 @ 9:54:13 PM
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Damn how could Naughty Dog not think of a way to help people with Disconnects.

90% of multiplayer games like R2 don't count disconnects as quits.
How can you sync a 'Quit' or other statistics if the game servers are cut off from your account?

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___________
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 1:33:53 AM
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thank god i did not bother with the online otherwise id be really pissed.
i mean seriously consoles play up, 4 times just today my ps3 has frozen on my while playing assassins creed 2.
4 times in less than 3 hours.
thank god they did not have that in the beta otherwise i would of not played a single game and would of been on the forums telling ND off.
how can they do this for something thats so common and easy to happen?
i mean jesus christ i cant turn on my ps3 once without the net dropping out, its as regular as me eating or going to sleep.
its a normal part of my everyday life now, swearing at my ps3 because it keeps dropping the connection.
ive lost allot of respect for ND because of this.
sorry guys you now slip from #4 to # 20 now.

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photo K
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 10:38:02 AM

When I first read the article I thought they were fining individuals $40,000 of REAL money! LOL

I haven't played online yet with UC2 but it sounds fun, but I agree, every once in awhile I lose connection for some reason, I thought it was more due to the servers cuz I never lose connection when I'm browsin the internet..

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Deleted User
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 5:21:52 PM

its called online multiplayer, and you dont go into a game unless you have the time.

next you'll be complaining that you can't pause multiplayer too right? :P

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FireNUrHole
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 3:04:51 PM
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I think my son had the best recommendation for this.
How about no money deducted, no rank change...just a 5 minute timeout.....
Or maybe 10 minute timeout, where you could not join another online game for 5 minutes

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Battousai
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 3:20:35 PM
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I remember when this was first announced, I think the penalty was $100,000! I've thought alot about this. Sure, it sucks that some innocent people may get penalized but I think this weeds out more bad people than good. Maybe they could support some kind of appeal process with the recorded games option? I'm not sure what could be done with systems that freeze because I don't think there is a way for Naughty Dog to tell that on there end. But ya I think maybe, as someone already mentioned, maybe a 3-strikes approach over 1 time would be better. I could've swore they said the penalty only happened if one left the game alot in a short period of time. I play online alot and the system seems to work fine to me. I don't know, but when it comes to people that disconnect alot from there ip, they need to take some personal responsibility. If online gaming is important then get a good ip for it. On another note in regards to people on psn over xbl, people need to stop with those stupid biased judgments. I own both a ps3 and a 360 and the vulgor, rude, immature, and disturbingly racist people are rampant on both networks! I'll gladly deal with any penalty that may come if it means one less person like that. Very interesting how people get all irate over a $40K penalty, but there's nothing being done about the disturbing vulgor and racist behavior of many playing online games on these networks!

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Highlander
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 9:13:03 PM

Who says nothing happens to those who use vulgar or abusive language? Sony has permanently banned PS3 game systems and users for such offenses in Home and online games, and continues to do so.

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Battousai
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 3:24:40 PM
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Oh, to the posting above mine. I beleave there is a wait period inplemented before you receive a money penalty that makes it take longer for you to join another match.

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Battousai
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 3:26:15 PM
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WOW, I can't spell today. I meant 'implemented' not 'inplemented'. My bad.

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Thinker
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 6:39:45 PM
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I applaud ND for their stance in penalizing gamers for quitting.

That said, I agree with others here who argue that their stance IS a bit draconian. There are so many things that can happen when you are playing the PS3 online that might appear as if you had quit even if you had not:
(1) losing your internet connection
(2) some glitch kicking you out of PSN sign, which would kick you out of the game as well
(3) the game or the PS3 glitching, necessitating rebooting the PS3
(4) power failure
There are probably several other reasons as well, but the crux of my argument is that, there are several things that can make it appear as if you have left the game without any wilful participation on your part.

In my opinion, if ND are to take such extreme steps, then they should go the extra mile and patch in some code or something which would enable them to differentiate between a normal quit or a manual PSN sign-out (which would be deliberate), and an abrupt sign-off or loss in connection or something (which would be out of the gamer's hands). Granted, the potential will exist for some gamers to just pull the plug on their PS3 or internet connection, but, in my opinion, the percentage of people who will endure the hassle of reconnecting or rebooting for just exiting a losing game will be considerably less.

Last edited by Thinker on 11/25/2009 6:40:22 PM

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fuk u
Wednesday, November 25, 2009 @ 10:37:14 PM
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every so often i get dropped from a game, 'its because i use a router and connect wireless'
but i have to!' ive never quit while playing... so the other night this happend, i was dropped from a game it cut me 40k i wasnt so mad but when it cut my level.. i was irrate! then it happened agian i went from 35 to lvl 33 almost. I put alot of time into getting those levels and if it is to happen agian I probably will consider not playing it anymore. ND is gonna lose alot of peeps online on U2 i think because i hear of many people having this problem time to time. They definitly need a way to detect lost connections cuz its pointless to lose your skill level from somthing out of your control.....

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Blaiyan
Thursday, November 26, 2009 @ 9:19:13 PM
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I use to dislike quitters but with MP likes this i'll just take the 40K hit. I just can't accept it like everyone else. To me it completely unbalances the game when you make it take exactly 23 bullets to kill an enemy and then put a shotgun, hammer and pistole on the map and allow others one hit kills. Just give the option to play only one hit kill games. I really get irate when I shoot someone a so many times and they just keep running or hide behind something. Main reason why I mostly play co-op which needs new maps fellas.

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