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Biggest PSN Download Ever Clocks In At 8-10GB

Those of you "in the know" have likely heard about Record of Agarest War, but perhaps you didn't know that when it arrives in North America, it will only be available as a digital download off the PSN.

That's hardly earth-shattering news but here's the kicker: according to Siliconera citing an Aksys administrator, this is going to be the single biggest downloadable game to date. And as a direct result, it's going to beg the question: just how far away are we from this seemingly inevitable switch to all-digital in the future? This is what we've heard about the Agarest War download:

"I asked around, and it looks like the final size is going to be somewhere around 8-10 gigs. It sounds like a lot, I know, but I’ve been downloading the debug ROMs at home to take the load off our office internet, and they only take a few hours–I usually start them when I leave for work, and they’re done by lunch. My internet connection is nothing special either–about 500 kb/s on a good day.

So there you have it. 8-10 gigs. We should a more solid number closer to release."

Now, if you still have a 20GB or 40GB machine (or even the old 60GB), this is ridiculously huge download. And the more you really think about it, the more you start to realize that many games could fit the 8-10GB margin...and publishers may want to take advantage sooner than you might think. The question is, are people really willing to wait for such a huge download? Is that something people want to do...? It'll be interesting to find out, that's for sure.

Related Game(s): Record of Agarest War

12/6/2009 9:36:05 PM John Shepard

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Comments (62 posts)

kevinater321
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 10:28:11 PM
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Holy SH*T! thats huge! and don't dvd's hold like 10 gig or something? So coudnt a game like Assasins Creed be on the store? Coooool.

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BTNwarrior
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 11:14:46 PM

well Burnout Paradise is on the store, so technically yeah AC2 could show up in the future

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Geobaldi
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 11:57:07 PM

Only the double sided dual layer DVDs can hold more than 10 gigs

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 1:07:59 AM

Double sided or flippable DVDs hold the same on each side as a single layer DVD. A single layer DVD is 4 and a bit GB, a dual layer DVD is commonly quoted as 9GB or thereabouts. A double sided DVD would be 9GB as well, but you'd have to physically flip the disc to read the second side.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 10:37:33 PM
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That's a sizeable download but can it really be larger than Siren? That game was a monster of a download too (well at least if you bought all the episodes but who wouldn't what with the Halloween bundle price! ;) ). I remember it being about ten gigs total. Confirmation anybody?

Edit:
Sidenote; that is one provocative image. What is this game even about?

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Scarecrow
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 10:47:16 PM
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I'm SO getting this game!
Been waiting for it a good while now

By the makers of Thousand Arms, should be awesome

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Kowhoho
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 10:54:23 PM

By the makers of Thousand Arms and BY THE POWER OF GRAYSKULL! lol
I don't know why I even said that...

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Scarecrow
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 11:27:37 PM

Haha it's ok

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I_defenestrate
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 1:01:18 AM

You said it because it was hilarious and hilarity should be shared!

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 1:08:37 AM

I so didn't know about this game, I have to do some reading the game art has a certain style...

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BTNwarrior
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 10:57:19 PM
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good thing I got a 320 gig ps3

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tes37
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 11:16:09 PM
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I can only manage to get 6-700Mb a day, so this would be a definite pass even if I wanted the game. My isp would slow me down to a dial-up speed if I hit them that hard over a 10 day period.

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 1:10:06 AM

Which is a great description of the problems with going to a download only strategy, and why HD video over the Net is a pipe dream unless you have fiber, or are willing to sacrifice the quality that makes HD what it is.

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photo K
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:29:48 AM

Why wouldn't they release it both as a hard copy and digital copy?

8-10gigs of download size will not fly for users who have download caps.

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Nynja
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 3:48:38 PM

@Photo K

Releasing a title on physical media costs money. I am speculating the publisher/developer would rather not make that large of an investment on a new IP with the risk of development and production costs exceeding estimated profits.

Logical decision on their part, although potentially limiting their customer base due to bandwidth restrictions and hard drive space.

If the game receives well as a downloadable title, I would not be surprised if it gets released on Bluray down the line. At least the sequel (if one gets developed) should hit retail outlets.

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 3:56:15 PM

@Nynja,

If this title does well I would hope to see a slew of Japanese and perhaps even Korean titles that wouldn't normally get a localization due to the costs involved in re-dubbing. Most games are built with all text in specific files so that many languages are supported by the same game engine. This makes localization of the text in a game much easier if all you are trying to do is a simple translation. With such translation of the game's own subtitles and menus and other text the game may sell well enough to justify a sales niche and treatment as a download title. But that market may not be large enough to justify the cost of the total localization and re-dubbing of the game.

I don't think that BluRay publication of games like this is on the cards unless the downloadable titles start selling in enough numbers to justify the costs of production and re-dubbing in English.

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___________
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 11:16:51 PM
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why in the hell would you do this?
spend all that money in making a game than restricting your sales to very few people.
ill be surprised if this sells more than 50K copies.

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BTNwarrior
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 11:25:20 PM

well this is probably the only way this game would see the light of day outside of Japan, so its better than nothing.

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 1:17:02 AM

On the subject of Japanese RPGs an other games that are not likely to get a major localization effort. I have this to say....for games that come to these shores with English subtitles and no voicing, I have no trouble with the idea of them being download only since it's about the only way they'll be made available.

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___________
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 6:58:51 AM

depending how big they were.
if yakuza 3 was to mysteriously appear on the PSN network i would download it without any hesitation.
but thats the problem, the smallest PS3 game i have seen is 15GBs and thats virtual tennis think its called.
most PS3 games are roughly 20GBs so barely anyone is going to be able to download them. times not really a problem just leave it on over night, its bandwidth that would be the major issue.

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oldmike
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 11:18:25 PM
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i will not get this game for 3 things

1 10 gigs is to big to download if we suport this
more to try what about thous with caps?

2 i only have 26 gigs left

3 looks like a Bishoujo game

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 1:12:10 AM

"looks like" Yes, the art is pretty, but the image accompanying the article doesn't define the game.

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oldmike
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 5:05:49 AM

i seen more pics for the game some showing more

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 4:05:04 PM

I've seen more pictures of the game too. They reminded me of the characters in Cross Edge or perhaps the Ar Tonelico games more than anything else. Those games are clearly more than simple anime style dating sims.

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Alienange
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 6:18:47 PM

those are three very good reasons.

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Qubex
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 11:19:29 PM
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I don't think I will be looking into this game...

Q!

"i am home"

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Xbox_Killer
Sunday, December 06, 2009 @ 11:44:37 PM
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Does the Japan one have a english option?

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Xbox_Killer
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 1:32:46 AM

Did a search and the Japanese version doesn't have a English option. The game looks interesting but it looks like I need to learn Japanese. I been wanting to anyways.

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Scarecrow
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:29:24 AM

You should
Tough language, well worth it though

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DIsmael85
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 12:56:05 AM
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Damn well it's just under Siren. That is 12Gb's total sitting on my Harddrive. I will definitely purchase this, 10Gb's is nothing since I still have about 150 Gb's left. Upgrade time people, it's been able to do that since launch, and it's rather inexpensive. I know there are people who make excuses, but instead of buying all them games, save the money and buy the harddrive, it goes a long way.

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Blaiyan
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 2:02:08 AM
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Transformers ROTF HD Rent was over 8GB and took me hours to download on a DSL connection that Downloads 20MB a Minute. So good luck to anyone with the patience.

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Banky A
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 3:45:05 AM
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Haha wow.

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LowKey
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 4:43:48 AM
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That's fukin bullshit, excuse my language please Ben, but there is no other way to express my feelings on this matter. I have 25 gb/mo to use for dlin games and playing them. That's so stupid why am I gonna use most of my bandwidth for the whole month for some game. dm is not right for Canada nor will it be for the US as soon as all major ISPs start capping your bandwidth. Rediculous.

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Alienange
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 6:20:34 PM

25gb/mo ?? Wow, what lame isp are you using? I'm with Sympatico and it's no holds bared with the bandwidth.

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rogers71
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 6:23:46 AM
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I agree with lowkey. It wasn't that long ago that I saw a news story about some major US ISP's that were considering putting a cap on how much you can DL per month and then charging a fee for every MB that you go over. I will not support digital downloads. NEVER, EVER, EVER!!!!! Fight the power!!!!

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BTNwarrior
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:20:33 AM

I think in terms of who is the man, the ISP providers fill the term better than the small developers who put their stuff out on the PSN, so don't fight them, fight the ISP's buy not paying for any service that caps or monitors.

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LowKey
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 1:16:59 PM

Yup, they already have it in the US. Although very few ISPs use bandwidth capping it is there. Comcast, Time Warner ect. It's a prick move by bullshit companies who are threatened by online video.

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 4:07:12 PM

Internet capping is the next 'evil' to roll our way. It's simply a way to squeeze more money out of customers. Using capping they have to ways to limit the service they sell and so now they have two ways to differentiate their service and offer many more inferior packages at inflated prices.

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tanner1
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 6:47:36 AM
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Siren Blood Curse sat around 10 gig

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rogergent
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 7:49:44 AM
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If your looking into getting this game and can't download import the UK version we have it on disk

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JackC8
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 7:53:16 AM
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Some of the screenshots of that game kind of interested me, but from what I've been able to find out, it looks like that stuff will be still images in the game, with text displayed underneath. I've sort of been wanting to try out a genuine Japanese RPG, but honestly, the gameplay just doesn't look interesting to me at all.

As far as all digital media, nope. The market is determined by the consumer, not by wide-eyed executives who see increased profits by eliminating physical media. People aren't going to run out and buy new consoles with multi-terabyte hard drives, or spend an extra hundred to upgrade their current drive. And another hundred for an external drive to backup their current drive before they replace it. And deal with formatting stuff to Fat 32, and worry about all the other technical questions that come up when you start modifying a console. And they're not going to wait for hours on end for something to download when they could run down to the store and buy it in one-tenth the time, or give up their option of selling or trading in their games. Not to mention they'll never be able to get something on sale again, unless Sony decides to reduce the price after the game has been out for a while. Black Friday? Cyber Monday? Some retailer bought 5,000 copies and now they can't get rid of them? Ha, forget about it.

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 4:12:23 PM

Yeah, it looks a little like Cross Edge and a lot of the other 2D RPGs with hand drawn anime slides and text in stead of animated cut scenes. It's not as interactive as the 3D full motion video games. It's a different style, more of a blending of RPG and anime graphic novel.

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therabbitkinge
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 7:56:09 AM
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Ok so I need a bigger harddrive... anyone in the know wanna drop me a hint on which harddrive I can get for my PS3 fat?

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rogers71
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 8:07:44 AM

It really doesn't matter which HDD you get. Any 2.5" will do. Newegg.com usually has pretty good deals on notebook HDD's.

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BlinkBoy
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 8:43:24 AM

*the forums are that way --->*

We have a sticky thread about changing your Hard Drives under PS3 section of the forum, check it out. Many users have posted comments and you should be able to figure out what hard drive you need to buy for you PS3.

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 4:13:39 PM

Any 2.5-inch SATA HDD should fit. I know of drives up to 500GB that all work, and it doesn't take very long to install them at all.

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Naga
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 9:27:20 AM
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I seen it in UK in disc form :D

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camaro300zx
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 12:16:55 PM

This is a direct quote from WikiPedia:

"The game will be released as a download on the PlayStation Network, and on disc for Xbox 360."

Europe got a disc release on Oct 30th 2009.

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therabbitkinge
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 12:45:24 PM
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@Blinkboy / Rogers71
Thanks im looking into both sources now ^_^ new HDD here I come!!!

Maybe now I can stop deleting my save files and not worry about a game like this eating so much space ^_^

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BikerSaint
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 3:00:30 PM
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WTF,
If you can even stand all the time being wasted by downloading a bunch of "GB-stealing" games, you'll still have to get another hard drive just to supplement your hard drive.

JUST SAY NO!

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Alienange
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 6:21:00 PM

For real.

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LowKey
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 3:44:46 PM
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Well, it looks like just another generic NON-RPG piece of crap tactics game. Like every other tactics game that hits ps3 and calls itself an RPG. Thank goodness, I thought it was going to be important, but I now see its just impotent.

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Crabba
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 3:54:38 PM
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That's nuts, and shows why that "all digital download future" is FAR from being a realistic option in the near future! At 400kb/s AVERAGE it would take you more than SEVEN hours to download this game if it's 10GB. Considering my DSL speed hasn't even gone up at all in the last 4-5 years...

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artson1966
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 4:00:13 PM
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I downloaded a 7.5 gig movie from psn last night and it took me less then 2 hours, I admit i have U-verse internet with download speed at 18 meg per second which equals abour 2.1 megs loaded. i do feel sorry for those that don't have cable or reg dsl this may take a few hours to download. Fiber optics does have its advantages if its available in your area. I hear those that have verizon vios can get up to 20 some mgps download speeds, its just a matter of time before we all will have twice that speed. If this was about 10 years ago i would have never downloaded anything of a few megs..lol

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 4:20:10 PM

Regular DSL tops out at about 3Mbits which in the real world translates to about 2.5Mbits, or 310KB/second (or thereabouts) 10GB would take anything up to 6 hours, assuming that nothing else was competing for bandwidth at the time.

The picture gets worse for folks further away from the CO than me and on cable, congested neighborhoods could lead so longer download times too. The networking technology for better speed is there, but it costs a medium sized fortune to upgrade the entire nation, so it'll take time.

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Geobaldi
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 5:31:22 PM

I have a cable connection and I usually top out at just under 700kb/sec. Of course it depends on what I'm downloading and from where.

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Sol
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 4:25:04 PM
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And this is the reason for me saving up for a 250gb PS3.

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fundando
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 4:58:42 PM

and why I'm putting a 500gb hard drive in my ps3

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Highlander
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 5:37:48 PM

If you can afford a 250, look really hard and see if you can afford a 320. The 320GB 5400rpm drive should be almost the same price as the 250GB 7200rpm drives, and the higher RPM drives don't offer any significant performance advantage.

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Alienange
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 6:21:49 PM
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I'm not feeding that beast. Why encourage this kind of lazy publishing?

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Origami_Killer
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 8:51:49 PM

I concur.

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LegendarySai
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 1:35:15 PM
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this might work for like, America n stuf, but im in South Africa. The fastest my net goes is 40kb/s (and thats pretty fast over here). and i hav a 4 gig cap. it would take me months just to download this thing. a shame, since it looks kinda interestin

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