NPD Predictions Place PS3 Ahead Of 360 For November

The console race is closer than ever with each passing month, and the latest November NPD estimates indicate that Sony has retained its momentum established by the price cut this fall.

Both Wedbush Morgan analyst Michael Pachter and EEDAR analyst Jesse Divnich have offered their predictions for the previous month, and first and foremost, both believe we saw a definite increase in overall software sales. Pachter thinks we'll see total sales for the month hit $1.55 billion, which would represent a 7% increase over 2008's $1.45 billion, although he does expect overall hardware sales to be down 19% in a year-over-year comparison. Said Pachter:

"PS3 unit sales last year were 1.1 million for the November–December 2008 period (compared with 2.3 million for Xbox 360 and 4.2 million for Wii). The Xbox 360 outsold the PS3 for 13 consecutive months until September, likely due to a higher perceived value proposition. (The Xbox 360 'core' model was priced $100 lower than the PS3.) We think that the PS3 will again outsell the Xbox 360 in November and December, prompting a price cut some time early next year."

Pachter says the PS3 will have sold 700,000 units in November with the Xbox 360 coming up close behind at 650,000 while EEDAR's Divnich expects something similar: the PS3 at 725,000 and the 360 at 700,000. Both believe the Wii will top the million mark and as incomprehensible that is to me, the Wii won't be destroying the competition as it did during last year's holiday season. As for the PS3, we're certain that a few must-have exclusives will continue to fuel hardware sales for December.

12/7/2009 9:20:04 PM John Shepard

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Zemus101
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 9:44:15 PM
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I still think it's strange that the Wii and 360 sell so much. Hmm... guess it's just me (obviously) but I haven't even thought twice about ever spending so much on a Wii or 360 for what hey offer (which isn't much) but I bought a $650 PS3 without even thinking (which was a couple years ago) and I'm glad I did to this day.

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johnld
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 4:27:09 AM

i bought a ps3 for 1000 bucks and couldnt care less but i wouldnt buy a 360, although i use my brothers one, no matter how cheap because i know it will die on me at any time. The wii wasnt even on my mind until it found itself near my tv. Ohh, i paid 1000 bucks because damn frys only had it in a bundle launch year.

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johnld
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 4:27:09 AM

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Mamills
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 9:49:57 PM
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well i mean im just happy to see the industry moving ahead. and yes i chose a PS3 b4 any other console.

im glad SONY has this strong competition. i mean cmon its only gonna benefit us PS3 owners even more.

they were once on top, they screwed up at launch and now they busting their ass to get back on top.

hell i welcome the competition, it's only gonna make it better for us PS3 gamers

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Kowhoho
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 9:54:52 PM

I try not to trust that too much; one time I saw a hannah Montana game for the DS place higher than Uncharted 2.... I almost ended it all right them and there.

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Alienange
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 12:56:08 AM

Hate to tell you, but Hannah Montana can sell more of anything they slap Drake on. It's sad, but true.

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photo K
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 1:59:44 PM

Hannah Montana on the wii probably outsells Uncharted 2 lol.

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OtisFeelgood
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 9:51:17 PM
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I plan on getting a Wii for my little sister for Xmas. I'm going to try to find a used one though.

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Mamills
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 9:53:09 PM

yea i was actually thinking of getting 1 for my mom with the new super mario bros wii.

PS3 is for the hardc0r3 (like MOI)

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kevinater321
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:11:31 PM

Get em a ps3 with a pseye, a few dowloadable games and lbp or something. They will enjoy it much more than the wii and will open them up for the better games. Like Or maybe get them a psp go with a 50$ gist card for ps store.

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Kowhoho
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:14:11 PM

Don't forget Ratchet and Clank!

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OtisFeelgood
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 11:21:10 PM

I'm gettin her a Wii because she's a kid and Wii has the most kiddy games. Its for her and my mother. And besides, my first game system was the NES so why not keep the tradition going and get her a nintendo console. I'll never buy myself a Wii though.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 1:11:06 AM

Wii is awesome.

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photo K
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 2:00:49 PM

My mom just bought herself and my sister a wii. My brother just bought a ps3, so that's a 2:1 ratio right there.

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Aftab
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 4:52:24 PM

He's just getting them a Wii, so he can play it.

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, December 09, 2009 @ 4:44:28 PM

Otis, the Wii is a good decision, just make sure you save enough money this xmas to finally buy yourself a PS3.

Last edited by MyWorstNightmar on 12/9/2009 4:45:12 PM

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Scarecrow
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:06:59 PM
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The modded 360s

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Mamills
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:10:44 PM

lool i know a few ppl who have modded 360's just so they dun have to buy multiplats and sports games.

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Mamills
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:15:55 PM

actually scratch that, come to CANADA, every1 up here that i know has a 360 thats Modded.

Hell, i can get one for 150 bux if i wanted

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mastiffchild
Thursday, December 10, 2009 @ 2:07:28 AM

That dear? Adter the recent bans I was offered a few for around £40 each in the UK! Might have taken them up if I hadn't already been given one broken that we fixed up-might actually sell my legit one now that I decided Live was just too much of a con(God, how I regret the money wasted on that service since launch! £40 a year for four years and for what? The odd game of Halo and the pleasure of finding out P2P sucks and Gears2 was broken online? Thanx MS!). And anyway they'll prolly be that price new by the time Natal's out!

Whatever, the amount of US citizens now buying PS3 seems to at least be matching the 360 but here in blightly the 360 is still kinf by a mile, amazingly, but our media just never mention other consoles than the 360 when talking about gaming-the odd Wii playing nanna-but def no PS3 love. Then you have idits like the woman on Yahoo saying the PS3 is a bad Xmas buy cos the controller batteries can't be replaced as DS3s are glued shut! Dunny, seeing as I just unscrewed one last week to put a new rechargable in-not to mention the PS3 is the ONLY one that comes with a rechargable as standard!

FUD gets everywhere and Sony has faced more this gen than every single other console in history put together!

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Ogibillm
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:09:33 PM
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sony has finally hit on an ad campaign that isn't just god awful. and now that they've made it clear just how much the ps3 is capable of and it didn't require some crazy tentacle monster to do it.

imagine that.

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Kowhoho
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:13:07 PM

I know what commercial you're talking about, and it was AWESOME! Tentacle PS3 monster FTW!

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BTNwarrior
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:12:22 PM
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who didn't see this coming, oh yeah microsoft

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Gone
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:13:17 PM
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Does a refurbish machine count towards these sales?

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newchef
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 2:25:25 PM

if u got it thru sony, i believe it does

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Jawknee
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 5:06:54 PM

No it doesn't. I just got my 60gb replaced. Sony didn't count it as a sale. How can they?

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NeoHumpty
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:16:30 PM
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My girlfriend is trying to talk me into getting a Wii for the 6yo. He already has a Gamecube, and I just don't see spending $200 for a new version with motion controls. All the new games he sees ads for are on the Wii, but I don't really want to get sucked into buying $40-$50 games for a 6yo, either. This sucks, but I'm sure I'll lose the fight. Guessing Nintendo can chalk a sale up to us this year. Either that or the DS. Of course, I have my reasons against that, too. I've seen how rough he can be with his old SP. That thing can take a beating.

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Gone
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:34:07 PM

If you don't want to spend $40-$50 a game, you can always rent games or join Gamefly. Gamestop is selling the Wii for $149 used and Walmart has a deal where you buy a Wii and get a $50 gift card.

For the record I am not promoting the Wii. I just remember what it was like being 6 and wanting a Nintendo so bad because most of my friends and cousins had one.

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NeoHumpty
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 11:30:49 PM

I just started using Gamefly again against my best judgement. It takes a week for the games to get to my house at best. A 6yo doesn't have that kind of patience. Plus if he really likes the game, sending it back will not be something he wants to do unless I go and buy it. And even at $150, it's still $120 more than I spent for his Gamecube.
I'm old. I remember when I was 6. I wasn't allowed to play the Atari very often at all, let alone have my own system.
I don't know. I just think it's WAY over priced. But again, you can't get a 6yo to understand hype.

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StevieRV
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:39:09 PM
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when i was 6 i wanted a ps1, im 16 now, all i wanted to play was ape escape and hercules, ive bought every playstation home console since then

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BTNwarrior
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 10:44:39 PM

I actually remember the hercules game beeing pretty bad ass. I was pretty young then though.

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Scarecrow
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 11:15:12 PM

Haha omg I can't believe you guys remember that game!

I used to play a demo of that game all the time, it was so fun (co-op play for the win!)

ps1 was such an experiment, god I love that console

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photo K
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 2:03:01 PM

when i was 6 i had the Atari 2600 and then Nintendo. Those were the good ol days.

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Qubex
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 11:10:41 PM
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Well I have predicted of total supremacy for PS3 by July-September 2010; that is when there should be more PS3 installed worldwide than 360's... I am sure M$'s response will be a new generation of Xbox... again getting the lead on Sony... let us hope they realise this probability!

Q!

"i am home"

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___________
Monday, December 07, 2009 @ 11:43:14 PM
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console sales have increased?
wow who would of thought that.
i thought that was the whole point of introducing a price drop and a re designed unit.
huh, i wish i could get payed to sit on my a$$ all day predicting the obvious.
in new news tomorrow is going to be hot.
who would of thought that?
were only in summer!

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Highlander
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 12:26:24 AM
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What was that the Microsoft men were saying about a 3:1 advantage over the PS3 this holiday season?

Indeed.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 1:13:05 AM

Yea that euro website was saying the same thing. Lamo.

Stick a fork in it. That xbox is done.

Last edited by Jawknee on 12/8/2009 1:13:38 AM

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johnld
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 4:34:11 AM

hahaha, please teacher. guy who blacks out ends up married to his teacher, which is an alien. watched it once, wasnt impressed.

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Highlander
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 11:43:25 AM

@John,

Which has what to do with this thread, or the PS3?

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Alienange
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 1:03:18 AM
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And that's what it really comes down to. The games. Bring the fantastic exclusives and people will buy the system to play them.

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Charger7302
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 1:06:41 AM
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Great too see ps3 pushing some hardware but, now let us hope ps3 can maintain it. This talk of another price cut for the 360 is alittle worrying, if the 360
elite goes down to 199.99 then that can stop ps3 right in it's tracks and put it back in third place.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 1:13:16 AM

Not without quality games

The 360 has officially become the Dreamcast, no matter how cheap it'll be left in the dust to the superior console.

Last edited by Scarecrow on 12/8/2009 1:19:00 AM

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Jawknee
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 1:35:16 AM

What Crow said.

No games=no moving consoles.

Maybe MS should create a new firmware and brick everyones console again like NXE did. Get their trolls to go out and buy yet another console to replace their bricked ones. ;)

just about all my friends except one has given up their Xbox and has moved on to better things. A PS3.

Last edited by Jawknee on 12/8/2009 1:35:35 AM

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Highlander
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 1:52:35 AM

@Jawknee,

That's why they waited so long to perma-ban modded consoles. I mean, does anyone believe that darn near a million Xbox 260 owners suddenly rushed out and modded their 360 just in time for MS to ban them so they'd rush out in November and buy a new one?

Not that I would *ever* accuse Microsoft of cheating like that....much.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 5:07:57 PM

No, never High. Ha

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Ultimadream
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 4:01:36 AM
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The only way is up, baby........

Yes i'd say thats a worthy predictiion. PS3 has been on top form this year and next year it will anhiliate competition!

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D1g1tal5torm
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 4:55:26 AM
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The only issue for me, is that the software being released for the proved technically superior machine is being held back by the 360.

When will dev houses start devoting time to coding games 'indepentently' for the differenet systems.

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Snaaaake
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 10:17:23 AM
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As if the 360 can outsell PS3.

It didn't even have one exclusive AAA title.
ODST got a high score because it's Halo and Left 4 Dead 2 ain't exclusive.

Last edited by Snaaaake on 12/8/2009 10:17:47 AM

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Wage SLAVES
Tuesday, December 08, 2009 @ 3:57:30 PM
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I recently got a new tv (Sammy LED 8000) and I talked to the Best Buy guy. He said PS3's were selling like hot cakes. I looked around and they only had 250gb packs. They were nearly sold out, next to a pallet of 360's....

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, December 09, 2009 @ 5:09:03 PM
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Ben, you say the Wii isn't going to destroy the compitition? Wii selling in excess of 1,000,000 plus, and the PS3 selling 700,000 and the XBOX 650,000 respectively. Might not be as huge of a spread as last year, but in my book, it is still an ass whoopin.

How in the world did XBOX sell 650,000 units? That amazes me. It has to be replacements for modded units, has to be.

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Fane1024
Friday, December 11, 2009 @ 2:50:22 PM

...and RROD units that are now out of the extended warranty.

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MCsephiroth1313
Wednesday, December 09, 2009 @ 6:50:42 PM
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Exclusives for not only December but February and March especially.

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cadpig
Wednesday, December 09, 2009 @ 11:54:46 PM
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If course everybody wants a PS3 now. Everybody and the family pet already has an xbox 360. Just wish that sony would have dropped the price sooner.

You guys killed me with that you pay more cause it does more crap...Nobody outside of this forum or in the real world saw that. Or could justify paying 100 USD extra for a PS3 over a xbox 360.

I knew that when sony dropped to price to be equal with xbox 360. This would level the playing field.

Sony has made some major gains in the past few months. The question is what is microsoft going to do counter and stop sony's gains in the coming year.

If i was a betting man. I would say buy more proven sequels and make them exclusive.

It's now a horse race may the best company win.

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mastiffchild
Thursday, December 10, 2009 @ 2:18:01 AM

No, not strictly. "Best" is a subjecive term in this case(like was the snes or the Megadrive(Genesis) best?)and I con#'t see a clear winner of the beneration even if the Wii keeps on as it is and the other two sell less month over month. The installed bases of each are big enough to ensure the fight oes to another generation just as, though disappointing on the surface, last gens Xbox sales ment that MS stayed in the game-and this gen all have sold better than that with Sony still aiming or the PS2 figures.

It always makes me laugh when fanboys on either side .llist why the other platform is the "me too" console that co[pies theirs as well. They ALL copy each other. Sony ripped of Achevements with trophies(though Insomniac claim to this day, with some truth, to have invented the whole thing with their R&C skillpoints), MS ripped of Singstar with Lips and Miis with Avatars while Sony can easily claim the Wii motion control boom ws a direct result of what they first tried with Eyetoy. It's all further proof that the console manufacturers are closer together than we might like to imagine(and with Sphere and Natal will get EVEN closer)-so is "best" possible? not in ultimate, factual terms, no. In subjective "I ike the way they do it best" terms? Certainly. That's where Sony win for me as I just think they push more interesting projects than MS or Ninty. F'rinstance I can't see MS funding a risk like HR, can anyone?LiS?TLG?Home?

So, like the stupid "who won E3" articles we always get(seriously, people think you can "win" a fekkin press junket these days?)winning this generation is a very personal thing and depends more on who you are than any empirical evidence.

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Fane1024
Friday, December 11, 2009 @ 2:54:23 PM

@mastiff

I think I agree with what you wrote. Please take the time to read and edit your comments before posting.

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