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What Makes Bayonetta Worthy Of Such High Praise?

The title isn't a rhetorical question. I'm not going to embark upon a quest to prove that Bayonetta isn't worthy of the praise it has received thus far. I'm actually asking the question: what is going on here?

Being a big fan of action games like God of War, Devil May Cry and to a lesser extent, Ninja Gaiden, I have been intrigued by Bayonetta ever since it first arrived on the journalist's radar. I've watched Platinum Games mold this bad boy into something I'd definitely wish to play; I love the cocky heroine and the campy humor, and I've always grinned at the tongue-in-cheek presentation of an impossibly gifted character who just so happens to boast the traits of a stripper. Really, so much of this game appeals to me and I fully intend on purchasing and playing. However, that being said, and after having played the demo, I'm a little confused about these perfect or near-perfect scores it has been awarded. I've seen an A/A+ from 1Up, a 9.5 from IGN (for the Xbox 360 version; the PS3 version only got a 8.2; ouch), and a perfect 100 out of 100 from Edge. ...not like I'd trust the latter source, anyway, but the point is that Bayonetta can apparently do no wrong in a critic's eyes. But...why?

I've read the reviews in question. I get it. But is it really worth this level of praise? I mean, we're talking Uncharted 2-like scores here and that's a little off-putting. Maybe it's because I played the obviously inferior PS3 demo, or maybe it's just because I get confused when certain reviewers complain about one game not being "innovative," then point to another game that simply does age-old mechanics better than anyone else and say, "now that's awesome." Besides the obscene number of skills Bayonetta has at her disposal, I don't see anything remotely innovative or evolutionary about the game but I may change my mind when I have the final product in my hands. The graphics were decent but nothing to get too excited about and that sadistically hard gameplay is smooth, but I did notice some camera lagging in that demo. I have a tough time believing such an issue is so radically different in the 360 version but then again, maybe it is. I'll be getting that version, anyway.

But with the 360 version averaging 93% right now at GameRankings, we automatically have to put Bayonetta among the best of the best. I suppose my question is: does it belong there?

Related Game(s): Bayonetta

12/22/2009 9:36:24 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (102 posts)

Riku994
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 9:59:41 PM
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I'm with you Ben. I played the demo and all I could think was: "Why hasn't the hype train come to my station yet?"

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vicious54
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:02:11 PM
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It belongs with the top past multiplatform action games of this gen and last gen. It will look like a PS2 game when God of War III comes out.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:36:34 PM

It already does look like a PS2 game.

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Alienange
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:02:32 PM
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"to a lesser extent, Ninja Gaiden."

Indeed.

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godsman
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:04:27 PM
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I've seen articles saying retailers are selling US version for PS3. Does this mean that the game is completed and fixed already by Sony?! Is that demo that was released not long ago, the fixed game?

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Deleted User
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:09:47 PM

Maybe they are selling imports. The game is already in English.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:09:05 PM
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I played both demos and came away unimpressed. I don't see what's so special about Bayonetta. I don't see it as a GOTY-caliber game. Could there be something going on behind the scenes between Sega and the press?

God Of War 3 and Dante's Inferno will blow Bayonetta away when they arrive. I want to see what those so-called "critics" will use as excuses when they try and give reasons why they are inferior to Bayonetta.

I wouldn't trust anybody from IGN in regards to their reviews. Nothing like reading kiddie babble from people my age.

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Sk8monkey
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:15:46 PM
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IMO the game is mediocre at best, the music, stylish fighting moves and the cheesey lines made it feel like it's intended for highschoolers.

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Gone
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:24:19 PM
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(.Y.) (.)(.) = high scores

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Jawknee
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:34:59 PM

It's even funnier because it's like that Sony guy is saying it. Ha!

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 2:27:42 AM

@Boom, LOL

BTW, just as she turns her hair back into her clothing(after using that raging wolf monster-thingie, she makes sure to show off those naked butt-cheeks too

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xnonsuchx
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 3:40:43 AM

That's my thought..."bodaciousness" often gets guys to buy and use something, even if their sense of reason is not involved.

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Spartan 117
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:30:36 PM
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Play the 360 version and you'll understand.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:35:22 PM

You seem familiar.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:38:11 PM

Aren't you the negative nelly trolling the forums?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:15:39 AM

Gone. Shows up to be a fanboy every now and then.

And he better NOT be in the forums.

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Banky A
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 2:52:52 PM

I thumbed him up +1
(:

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Jawknee
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:33:32 PM
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I think a growing number of reviewers are becoming unreliable. Why I come here for most of my news and reviews.

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SnipeySnake
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 11:08:12 PM

*cough* ign *cough*

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:37:27 PM
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Must agree, and not out of habit, the demo is solid, and I love the idea, but the execution was rather clumsy and dismal. Controls were unrealistic, and even though she is very agile, I feel like if this were the world of GI Joe, Bayonetta would be GI Jim, in the world of Transformers Bayonetta would be Gobots, in the world of Action Figures Bayonetta would be the one whose arms and legs don't move... etc.

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Oxvial
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:42:23 PM
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I have the game and played 5 hours of it until now I think the 8.2 is what it deserve.

now the graphs must be really look very different on the 360 to got those overrated reviews.



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enjoi
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 10:48:14 PM
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Xbox mags... They'd give Halo 4: Hannah Montaster Chief a 10/10

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hellish_devil
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 11:08:45 PM
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Well, I'll just have to wait for Ben's review.

Lately, there have been fewer reliable sites, just like Jawknee said, so I'm counting on you Ben.

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Highlander
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 11:08:57 PM
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I think what we have here is an example of a game that's been hyped to kingdom come and is apparently visually superior on the 360(until the optimized by Sega PS3 version hits NA). You see I think that the Xbox360 crowd has been very tired of the beating it's taken due to Uncharted 2 actually meeting the expectations set for it, and in many ways exceeding them.

Excuse me for being somewhat skeptical, but I do find it rather odd that a game that is so - quirky (perhaps bohemian is a better word) gains such mainstream accolades and appeal. Especially when the hyperbole on 360 reviews is so positive and the spin on the PS3 version is decidedly negative.

Perhaps Sega will optimize the snot out of the game and it's NA release will be marked by a better version and the noise we're hearing over the game will die down, or perhaps people will realize that actually it's nothing really new or special.

Personally I was briefly interested in the game when it was announced, but as time has gone on the fugly character and utter lack of coherent story does pretty much kill the game for me. Not to mention that there are several third person action games around already, and GOWIII is coming soon if I really want that kind of thing.

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hellish_devil
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 11:22:37 PM

"until the optimized by Sega PS3 version hits NA"

I highly doubt about this, altough I wish it was true.

I'm broke, I have no xbox and I want this game so much!! (not that I want an Xbox, though)

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Deleted User
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 11:52:55 PM

Well, Bayonetta's moves are pretty fugly. Why must she shoot guns with her feet?

Your take on the whole matter is very good. I mean, what does the 360 have going for it exclusives-wise in the early going of 2010? Just Splinter Cell; games that are on the PC like Mass Effect 2 don't count.

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:17:18 AM

Sega is enhancing/optimizing the game prior to the NA release, so there could very well be improvements, especially if the bring in Sony's hit squad of experts on Cell programming.

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oldmike
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 1:11:52 AM

this mite be a big part of it
that and for the X-bots to point to
and say "see its just as good as GOW3"

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___________
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 6:37:03 AM

hopefully they do clean the game up because its seriously washed out.
all ps3 versions of games are far washed out than their 360 counterparts for some reason.
and thats with HDMI range on full, that normally makes the colors darker and Richter.

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 9:40:32 AM

I think that washed out look is down to the gamma correction settings. Sony really needs to add a way for us to alter the default gamma correction for the PS3 because a lot of times games do look washed out by comparison, and if we could lower the Gamma correction value, I think a lot of that would go away.

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COBB
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 11:17:50 PM
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Let's just say $$$, umm, buys good reviews.....remember the the hype army of 2, haze got, big como, MS funded I'm sure, or just in the past months Borderlands.....7.9-8.2 is more realistic for this game, maybe better, but not UC2 numbers, not even Infamous type good

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artson1966
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 11:18:13 PM
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my opinion is that some critics are trying to take away some momentem from the PS3 AAA titles that have been released of late...most of these critics that have reviewed the game to the most part are very biased towards the 360 anyway.. I really didn't care for the demo on either platform to be honest it seems to be like devil may cry hack and slash type games are to basic in my opinion. so to see high scores like this on this type of game through me thru a loop to be honest...

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mike rlz
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 11:20:07 PM
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i just watched the demo on youtube... whats with collecting rings like sonic? lol

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johnld
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 1:33:54 AM

they're halos,lol. basically currency like the orbs in devil may cry.

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___________
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 11:27:20 PM
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ok i think we have a new contender for the most over rated game ever!
yea, bayonetta is good, its fun and DAM! its fast passed.
BUT! its no where near as good as all the praise its getting.
seriously its like devil may cry 4 with a little more polish and innovations, nothing groundbreaking.

look at all the aspects of the game.
combat is a clone of DMC4 not that its a bad thing, but the combos in this pale compare to DMC4, especially when using the devil bringer attacks.
another thing i hate about the combat is since the camera is so god dam far away, and theres so much crap going on screen you cant see what the hell your doing.
you get one of those massive keys, thrust it through a enemies head, slicing him in half and all you see is a pool of red paint.

the cutscenes.
WTF?
why are they like a really old movie?
there is no lip sync what so ever, and the audio is lagging the action.
like bayonetta will give the cat back to the girl, the girl will cuddle it than bayonetta will say "here little one" and give her cat back.
aint she suppose to be saying that as she gives it back?

whats with the music?
OMFG seriously the music aggravates me so much during combat i have to turn my speakers off.
they trying to put me to sleep?
mission accomplished!

its really repetitive too, chapter two is a repeat of chapter one, chapter three is a repeat of chapter two and so on.
ive lost the ammount of times ive said "havent i done this before?" or "havent i been here before?"

and because its so repetitive it gets real boring real fast!
with devil may cry four i brought it home installed it and played the game from start to finish.
did not leave the room till i was done.
i had so much fun playing the game, not once was my attention drawn elsewhere.
12 hours it first took me, and it felt like 6.
bayonetta im half way through in a month.
i seriously can not be stuffed playing it, it just bores the crap out of me.
like last night i played it for 2 hours and every half hour i was looking at the clock thinking 5 hours had past when it was only 30 minutes.
bayonetta can not hold my attention for more than 2 hours, it just bores the crap out of me.

dont get me wrong, it is a good game.
BUT no where near as good as the critics are making it out to be.
this is why i dont trust journalists anymore because they blow EVERYTHING! way out of proportion.

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:08:43 AM

The only explanation I can offer is pure hyperbole and the need for a 360 game that's any good right now.

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oldmike
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 1:03:08 AM

i soo feel you its like GTA4
GTA4 is a 9 no way was it a 10

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___________
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 6:34:50 AM

just finished bayonetta and man thats how you end a game.
brilliant.
though still does not change my thought on the reviews.
why do action games have to have the camera so bloody far away?
DMC, NG, GOW are all really bad at that but bayonetta is the biggest offender.
honestly at times its like the camera is in a different universe!
they should have it that the camera is right behind your shoulder, almost first person but still third.

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karneli lll
Tuesday, December 22, 2009 @ 11:51:03 PM
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Bayonetta sucks. Case and point.

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just2skillf00l
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:25:39 AM
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I'm not going to go as far and say it sucks. But...I wasn't at all impressed with the graphics. The graphics resembled games from last generation. As for the gameplay, it was fun to me, the stylish moves and attacks, very fluent combos and such, I was content. But the graphics were so bad, I mean for a game released this generation, it can't compare to any game I've ever seen released this generation (excluding the Wii). This will be a rental at best unless they decide to fix up the PS3 version visually or maybe just the game in general before it's release next month. But the game was very fun, just not to appealing on the visual side of things.

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:46:14 AM
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I dont think its worth the high praise personally. I honestly am with you though Ben I mean I cant say much except speculate. But after playing the demo, I dont see the big deal. Now after playing the GOW 3 demo I understand why it could possibly be the PS3' best game, (ugh tough competition coming though, and I hate saying that cus I love UC2 but I also love GOW and I love the industry pushing forward! Gosh Sony has great devs.) and quite possibly the best game n e of us have played! It obviously is just a demo and I know Santa Monica, and Sony will only further polish the game as it nears its launch but how beautiful was that demo, jeez! Point is I didnt get that same sensation playing Bayonetta, all I got was huh this is more fun that I thought type of feeling!

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Masry_XI
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:52:24 AM
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i have to agree , actually am not a big fan of games shifting to sex , i feel like this is leading to loss in gameplay and story and more focusing on legs .
also i think devil may cry will be better than bayonetta.

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 2:51:59 AM

The funny thing is that a game starring the DOA girls is at least honest about what it is. Bayonetta is trying to dress up the sex within a 'serious' action game.

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Kowhoho
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:56:05 AM
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Edge is running out of places to hammer nails into their coffin. Killzone 2 and Dead Space are both a 7 and yet Bayonetta is somehow a 10? Come on, WTF. SERIOUSLY, WTF?!?!?!

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Qubex
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:59:30 AM
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Well, I downloaded the demo... and, whilst it is not my type of game typically (I am more into the FPS genre) I thought it was actually quite slick.

I thought the graphics looked very good, polished. Loved the texture work and modeling on the station... Yes, it is a DMC clone of sorts; and I thought at the time DMC was a beautiful looking game...

I don't have issues with Bayon... I think it and she is pretty cool... I don't care about the Xbot version or what people think of it.

Q!

"i am home"

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Bigimpactpooch
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 1:01:37 AM
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What did Heavenly Sword score? W/e HS scored thats what Bayonetta should of recieved.\

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sunspider13
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 1:37:34 AM
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I got the demo and I was surprised but I liked it, despite it's flaws. My main peeve was the camera. I get the cheeseness of the script. The more gameplay that I see, the more I like it, i know I'm a mutant, lol.

However I could care less about the whole hulabaloo with the game. If it's put together solidly and doesn't freeze while I'm playing it then hey, happy day.

I'll get the game when it comes down in price, or when I can't take waiting for GOWIII any longer.

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hellish_devil
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 4:27:56 PM

Sorry for the question, but I'm an Spanish speaker. What does cheeseness mean?


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sunspider13
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 5:45:33 PM

Cheesiness misspelled in my original post means obvious humor and bad jokes. Hope that clears it up.

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hellish_devil
Thursday, December 24, 2009 @ 12:47:01 AM

thanks

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daizycutter
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 2:47:29 AM
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bayonetta was just a bit too cheesy for me ..dantes inferno was a better play ..i know this because i just got into it when the demo ended!

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Qubex
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 2:59:40 AM

Daizycutter, for some very strange reason I cannot kill/beat Death in my demo of Inferno... which is very frustrating :( - so I cannot play the rest of the demo.

Q!

"i am home"

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bearbobby
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 11:10:31 AM

Really? I felt the demo of Dante's Inferno was rather simple. Are you getting his health down enough for the R2 prompt to show up? Beyond that you just follow the on screen buttons and watch what happens.

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Imagi
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 3:20:01 AM
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I with you on this one Ben, I found it hard to see how such high scores and praise for the game were justified after playing the Demo.

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SubjectiveTruth
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 3:29:48 AM
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Honestly, maybe the 360 really is better. I love Sony dude, I've been a Sony guy since I became jealous of my neighbor's PlayStation shortly after receiving a N64 for Christmas. Just like last gen, I first bought a PS3, mostly because of Metal Gear, god I love Metal Gear. Recently, because I had the opportunity of some saved money and a generous present from my grandmother for my birthday I bought a 360. Now, I have rented MX vs Atv Reflex and dude, I like it a lot, despite the frustration, because I actually ride a dirt bike, the ability to manipulate the machine with body position just creates magic for me. So, wanting the game I made it a christmas wish, and then looked up reviews. Apparently, graphics are far better on the xbox. After reading the reviews, I do see the blurry textures and pop-ins that the reviews refer to. So, I guess it is the developers fault and possibly due to the difficulty in programing for the P3, but it appears this game really is better on the xbox. Possibly this is the case for Bayonetta? Although the gaps in review scores between said games are much larger...

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 9:44:21 AM

Hmmmm....what a truly remarkable, outstandingly literate loquacious reply.

Oh yeah, the 360 is better, that's why Uncharted 2, KZ2, LBP and MGS4 (to name but a few) could only be done on PS3.

It's well known that Bayonetta suffered greatly from rushed-port-syndrome.

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SubjectiveTruth
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:40:19 PM

I didn't mean to say that the 360 console is better, what I meant to say is that the 360 version of the game might actually be that much better. Therefore, playing the PlayStation version would give a bad impression of the game. Drives me crazy that developers seem to favor the 360 when the PlayStation is superior.

I didn't mean to piss anyone off with that post..

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isaya85
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 4:39:01 AM
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@Kowhoho LMAO man i can't stop laughing

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Kowhoho
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 9:00:13 AM

Glad I tickled your funny bone. Is it possible to hate Edge TOO much?

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BadBrad
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 4:57:41 AM
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DMC 4 > Bayonetta
This is the same hype train that drove Brutal Legend.

Thank god for demo's ! ...otherwise we would all by this sup par game(s)

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Buckeyestar
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 8:49:03 AM

Strange then the demo convinced be buy the game day one.

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JohnnyGold
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 7:13:53 AM
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great article ben. from an outside perspective (i havent played the demo or been following the production of the game) something has seemed VERY fishy with all these reviews. now I understand that the game has been getting SOME hype... but literally EVERY review from a big company mentions SEVERAL times how much better the xbox version is than the ps3 version. its just crazy. on ign, the video review is like

"well... the story isnt that great, its actually non existant... but man is the 360 version better than the sony version. game of the year. if you buy the 360 version of course."

why does sega have to be the one paying reviewers off? i can think of a company that has more vested interest in a big title being out for the 360 this holiday season now that the modern warfare hype is dead. a company that has thrown money at EVERYTHING this gen to lock down exclusivity. if you're gonna give rockstar 50 million to secure a pretty marginal profit on some dlc, why not pay off big time review sites if it will make everyone NEED bayonetta this holiday season.

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JackC8
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 7:29:45 AM
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I played the demo, and thought it was like Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2, except with butterflies. The boss battles reminded me a bit of God of War. I dunno, all I was doing was the most basic button mashing, which apparently produces all sorts of combos. It was impossible to tell if certain combos have more effect than others.

According to the IGN review, the main problem is the crippling load times on the PS3 version. I can see how the demo could hide that flaw. Anyhow, I don't pay full price for scratch and dent items. I'll probably pick up a used copy when it gets down to $20. I in no way thought this was a title worthy of extraordinarily high scores, but it was kind of cute.

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Lotusflow3r
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 7:33:12 AM
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Wow.... i agree at last :)

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Thrill Kill
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 8:16:34 AM
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this game

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Deleted User
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 8:38:31 AM
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To the people who say the content in this game is cheesy, I agree. It's a good game but it's so painful to watch: the butterflies, Bayonetta's actions, the partial nudity, the innuendos, etc. Playing the demo made me feel embarrassed. In a day when we have Elena Fisher and Chloe Frazer, here's Bayonetta to take us back to the past, when female characters were nothing more than eye candy.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 10:20:36 AM

You're taking it all too seriously. The entire thing is designed to be a part-spoof; a charade of sorts. That's why I think it's just plain fantastic in that respect. This is artistic humor, not an artistic statement concerning females in games or "how to use sex appeal to sell a product."

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karneli lll
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 10:43:03 AM

There is no artistic humor in the game, its riding on sex appeal. Im all for mindless fun and all but not like this. Are there no other games that this one has to be put on a pedestal? I bet you if the main character was a dude,the hype would've been much,much less.


Moreover, are we going back to the port days?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 11:12:33 AM

Then you're not getting it.

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Deleted User [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 11:32:10 AM

I get what you're saying, Ben. In Japan, it's more common to have games like this.

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Alienange
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 1:39:42 PM

Got to agree with Ben on this one simply based off of my time with the demo. If you ask me, Bayonetta is the kind of character most women think they are. Strong, sexy and smart. Kinda like guys and Superman.

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Buckeyestar
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 8:52:10 AM
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IGN is badly Xbox biased. They have XBL sections without corresponding PSN pages. Links to all Xbox sites at the top of their pages, and they even used to have a feature called Xbox University that also displayed on every page. According to Metacritic, Game Informer gave an identical score to both versions and their overall metascore is only 2 points apart.

Sadly this will fuel Xbot ravings that the PS3 is crap, neglecting that any difference is purely from lazy programmers and no deficiency in the console.

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www
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 9:02:12 AM
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Yea I also can't understand what's going on, I've played the PS3 demo but am downloading the 360 version also to see if something's missing.
And that Famitsu giving it 40/40 and 39/40 for FFXIII, makes it seem like there's a LOT more to do in Bayonetta, which is not plausible, we all know RPGs for what they are,longevity.

I'd love to get it but with Heavy Rain in Feb, I dunno....Besides you barely see where she is when things get clumsy on screen with all those complicated moves of hers but anyhoo I still know its a great game that I might be skipping till its dirt cheap.

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Snaaaake
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 9:14:32 AM
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Played the demo and I loved it, already pre-ordered a copy of Bayonetta.

Call me a fool, but I'm in love with Bayonetta now.

Edit: Although as much as I love this game, I seriously have no idea how it get such score.

If it's something like 8.0-9.0 then I understand but to get more than that really makes me want this game even more.

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telly
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 9:15:23 AM
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Haven't played the game (or demo), so I'll refrain from saying whether the game is worth the insanely great scores it's getting. I will, however, say this -- I frankly just can't stand the protagonist's hyper-sexualized presentation. I love hot chicks as much as anyone, but this is pandering toward a nasty stereotype among gamers -- that we all go ga-ga over some animated skin. I have absolutely no problem with female protagonists, but every time I have to play a game with some laughably proportioned female performing combat in a skin-tight dominatrix outfit with heels, my immersion in the gameworld is hurt.

Plenty of us gamers do just fine in the dating world, thanks (see: Dutka, Ben!) and don't need or want to have some horny Japanese nerds programming softcore porn fantasies for us to enjoy a game. In fact, their efforts usually have the opposite effect (for me, at least.)

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 10:22:00 AM

See my comment above. You guys really need to understand the goal, here. Not everything is a political or sociopolitical statement or observation, especially when the developers know exactly what they're doing.

Despite the fact that nobody is allowed to make jokes anymore in this world and this administration, there IS such a thing as "all in good fun." ;)

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telly
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:19:47 PM

@Ben, if there wasn't already so, so much gratuitous female hypersexuality in games -- and worse, typically about what a 15-year-old thinks "sexy" is -- I might be a little more apt to agree that Bayonetta's presentation is a sort of *wink wink* or ironic choice for presentation. Because there is so very, very much porn star-inspired art design in games, though, I'm just not interested in the title at all.

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telly
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:21:27 PM

BTW, I do hear you on the "all in good fun" comment. While this particular instance is just too much for me -- maybe I'll change my mind if I ever actually play the thing -- i definitely agree it's best not to be too sensitive about everything in general.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 12:37:37 PM

I guess it's all in how you look at it. I agree that we need to somehow stem the tide of insanity that has 15-year-old girls apparently idolizing pornstars. And I'm all for family values in all respects.

But I think Bayonetta is just more tongue-in-cheek than blatant pandering, and there is a clear difference. BMX XXX was pandering. Saw is pandering (although in a different vein). This? This is what I like to call "silly sexy," and I don't view it as particularly harmful. :)

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telly
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 2:43:20 PM

Well put, dude. I can definitely agree with the distinction you make. Maybe I'll give the game a try so I can actually know what I'm talking about :)

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sunspider13
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 5:51:06 PM

I second that and you said it better than I did.

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Dustinwp
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 9:31:30 AM
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Bayonetta is an annoying ditz! I really cannot stand her cheesy comments! Bayonetta makes it into my worst video game characters list for sure. I would rather have my toes smashed with a hammer, than be forced to play trough Bayonetta and have to be exposed to her terrible script. I'll be picking up Dante's Inferno and not even giving this game a second thought.

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Superman915
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 10:18:51 AM
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dont bother thinking about it, or support a garbage port of a game by a company that should know better.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 10:29:26 AM
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Sometimes, I wonder if Platinum Games, who did no work with the PS3 version as we all know, is hoping that the U.S. Xbox Nation helps pay their mortgage. They are all in here.

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Deleted User
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 10:40:09 AM

Well, one Xbox fansite that will remain nameless wasn't too impressed with the game. They only gave it an 8. They are a biggie, though.

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xnonsuchx
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 1:37:46 PM
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Weren't the TOMB RAIDER games (and movies) more popular than they should have been too???

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Alienange
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 1:43:54 PM
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The only thing about Bayonetta that I don't get, is the purpose of the game. I mean the story is nearly incoherent. The rest is fine. I'm not one to get bent out of joint because a woman is sexy.

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JDC80
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 1:57:55 PM
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I played the demos for Dante's Inferno and Bayonetta while I like them both I rather spend 60 bucks on Dante's Inferno or wait for "God of War 3" when it drops.

While "Bayonetta" is fun I don't see how Bayonetta is getting the GOTY buzz while people outside the xbot universe are waiting on pins and needles to get their hands on "God of War 3" and "Heavy Rain".

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cell9899
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 2:11:12 PM
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What really pisses me off is the fact that some reviewers are praising this game as innovative, and also how they are saying this will be game of the year, or how this game is better than GOW3, how ridiculous is that.

I can already see EDGE giving GOW3 an 8.5 for not been "innovative", rather for not been on XBOX.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 2:34:45 PM
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It's a scheme to make the 360 look as if it has games

They're trying to UP these multiplats so that the 360 can actually survive the barrage of AAA games the ps3 is releasing

(I know I know, I made all this up, but you never know. With that fact that Gamespot got paid by some company to give a game a good score anything's possible)

I played the demo too and it was ok. I don't see it as being better than Devil May Cry 4....So how can it average better scores?

Something must be going on
We'll see, psxe's review will be the definitive answer for me

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Banky A
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 2:58:37 PM
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Yes I don't understand it either! How can it be getting near God of War-like praise for something sooo Devil May Cry.

And I don't get the high scores in graphics, I don't have an HDTV but it didn't look 'that' great(?).

BTW, Ryan Clements of IGN is a fan of Japanese stuff and JRPG, so... you know. But he's not a big and experienced action gamer.

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Banky A
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 3:00:27 PM

Game demo was definitely fun though. I uploaded a vid on YouTube where I show myself practically killing the 1st boss in 10-20 seconds.

;)

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SILVERAMMO
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 3:06:26 PM
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the reason is since the ps3 version sux they gave it a good score for 360. if both versions were really good it would average 8.9 to 9.0

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 9:28:40 PM

That's the kinda scheme I was thinking 'bout

IGN was searching for the one game they could call REALLY game (for early next year) on the 360..........................................

Now I see it clearly. Any multiplat that is GOOD will get REALLY high scores on the 360(or on both) so that it undermines ps3's exclusives.

Dante's Inferno is the next victim

It will be over-praised so that it takes attention away from God of War III

Amazing how this whole Microsoft/American media bias works...

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___________
Thursday, December 24, 2009 @ 6:39:04 AM

dont ya think thats a little far fetched?
i mean seriously, M$ may have a big checkbook, but not that big.
IGN lost their credibility long ago.

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BigBoss4ever
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 9:25:19 PM
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so just dont play ps3 version, instead, buy the 360 version, and you will know why it is awesome. the ps3 port version is just so bleak and the whole screen has a greyish foggy look which render players unexcited. this is the time to say the benefit of having both consoles, and i just need awesome games, it does not matter which consoles they are on. game is the focus for me.

with that said, Bayonetta is absolutely awesome and i love that mysterious echoing background music. we have not seen these type of music for a long time, which was quite frequent to have in older generation of jap. games and i was fascinated by those music.

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Highlander
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 11:42:14 PM

If the whole screen is washed out then the problem isn't the game, it's the gamma correction.

The ps3 offers no way to alter the gamma correction, so you'll need to play with the brightness and contrast and color saturation on the monitor. This has been a common complaint about PS3 game ports since day 1, and I honestly can't believe that Sony hasn't figured it out yet.

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Ricochet
Wednesday, December 23, 2009 @ 10:30:14 PM
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Like most sites and reviews state by now, the 360 version is the one that YOU have to try before judging the final game. I played the demo and I think it's great and if the 360 version is anything better than what I've played then I don't really doubt the high praises.

This is one of PS3's worst ports in this generation's history. An ok game is not ok if the other product is 70% better for the same price.

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just2skillf00l
Thursday, December 24, 2009 @ 12:03:39 AM
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The game IS FUN! I would get it on the 360 if I had one since it boasts a better experience says multiple sources. I just had a problem with the graphics for the PS3 version. Not that they were atrocious but for this generation I wasn't impressed (with the demo's graphical content). If they fix up the PS3 version I would be happy to get this game. If that price tag still remains lower than the 360 version as well that's also a plus!

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Godslim
Thursday, December 24, 2009 @ 5:51:28 AM
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tbh i thought it was pants after playing the demo and i dont know y its so hyped up

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gorezilla
Thursday, December 24, 2009 @ 11:40:30 AM
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The Xbox demo was definitely much better and it actually was a different demo for the most part. However, I think the ps3 version will be a safe purchase because the devs said they will fix it before the NA release. Also, If I'm not wrong, I think what most people love about the game is the constant state of adrenaline without being overwhelmed.

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PaiNT_kinG
Friday, December 25, 2009 @ 6:14:17 AM
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sex sells=case and point this game,critics gave it high scores because it gives them a hard on while playing =D

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