Sony Considering "Pay To Play" Titles For Network?
We already know about Sony's consideration of a Premium Subscription Service for the PlayStation Network, but have we thought about a possible influx of MMOs or other games that require a fee to play?
Up to this point, the only examples of these are MMOs and episodic experiences that require you to purchase and download new gameplay portions over a certain span of time. Might we start seeing more of these games in the near future, in an effort to generate more revenue for the ever-expanding PSN? According to another survey Sony has issued to journalists and gamers alike, there is the possibility that you will have to pay to play at some point in the near future; however, bear in mind that we're not talking about paying to play a standard game online. That will remain free, of course; we're dealing with games - possibly like MAG - that would require a monthly fee to play online, like World of Warcraft, for instance. As the article points out, the PS3 could certainly handle the likes of WoW but without a paid subscription service in place, Activision Blizzard probably wouldn't think too highly of the idea. But what do you think of it? "Pay to play" is hardly a new concept, but it might be new for non-MMO-ers who aren't used to the idea.
For those who only casually use the PSN to download a few demos and trailers here and there, you might not be interested in any premium service for either PSN access or playing games. But hey, that's your option. What you're doing now should certainly remain free.
12/29/2009 9:17:22 PM Ben Dutka
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Sk8monkey
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 9:57:06 PM
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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 10:04:18 PM
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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 10:07:21 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 10:11:38 PM
ShadowRunner
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 11:57:08 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 12:01:39 AM
Banky A
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 5:16:51 AM
Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 12:52:41 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 1:53:06 PM
hellish_devil
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 9:18:36 PM
therabbitkinge
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 10:23:17 PM
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It seems like a sound strategy and "Pay to play" sounds reasonable depending on the actual game so im not judging unless they charge for what should otherwise be free. ^_^
Oh and -ahem- F**K YOU CHELIOS!!! (That avatar signifies the most random moment in that movie... among like 100 others.)
Buckeyestar
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 10:24:48 PM
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Geobaldi
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 11:45:55 PM
Fane1024
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 4:39:38 PM
OtisFeelgood
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 10:28:47 PM
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BikerSaint
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 10:35:46 PM
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jerocarson
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 11:26:35 PM
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just2skillf00l
Tuesday, December 29, 2009 @ 11:30:13 PM
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Reccaman18
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 12:01:57 AM
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 12:10:13 AM
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We already know that Final Fantasy XVI is a subscription based game, and we have the example of World of Warcrack to show us that for some a subscription model for online multi-player games is a workable solution.
Remember that PSN is an open network and the PS3 has direct Internet access, unlike the Xbox360 which has to go through XBL. Sony can either offer these subscription games within the framework of PSN and gain some revenue, or they can watch as third parties build games that they sell cheaply on disc and then charge subscription fees to play - with Sony getting nothing out of the deal. It's clearly beneficial to Sony to bring MMOs within their framework so they can get a cut of the revenue, and it also works for the publishers of such games since they get their game on a service that is put right in front of PS3 customers nearly every time they switch on their PS3.
The best part is that this isn't about making us charge for something we already get, it's about allowing *new* MMOs and subscription gaming/content delivery services to be done within the framework of PSN.
WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 12:24:35 AM
jaybiv
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 12:36:32 AM
Qwarktast1c
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 11:08:11 AM
superben1990
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 12:18:50 AM
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Alienange
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 12:56:47 AM
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Nobody plays MMORPGS that require a subscription. There's a few stragglers still holding on to WoW but even Blizzard can't be bothered to update the old beast. Every other MMORPG that came out has failed since WoW's release in 2004 and many even imploded before that. Getting gamers to pay a monthly subscription fee just so they can type to each other is nonsense. If Sony tries this they will fail miserably.
Geobaldi
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 1:21:09 AM
Really. With around 12 million subscribers, WOW proves that wrong.
"Every other MMORPG that came out has failed since WoW's release in 2004 and many even imploded before that"
Also wrong. Sony put out Star Wars Galaxies in 2003 and it's still going strong. Lord of the Rings Online is still going. Warhammer Online is still going. Final Fantasy XI is still going. City of Heroes is still going. Dark Age of Camelot is still going. Lineage is still going. Note that these are just some of the MMORPGs that came out before and after WOW came out and they're all still going strong and producing new content on a regular basis for the most part. And then there's the grandaddy of them all, Ultima Online.
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Alienange
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 9:50:56 AM
Besides that, have you played Sony's Free Realms? Nothing too complicated there and yet Sony STILL hasn't come through on their promise to bring it to the PS3. And we are to believe that they will bring an MMO to the PS3 that will rival WoW worthy of a monthly fee?
___________
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 1:03:37 AM
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i think paying 120 bucks per game, 1000 bucks for a launch system, 500 bucks for a slim, and 100 bucks per controller and ive got 5 controllers is more than enough.
not to mention all the PSN games and PS1 classics i have bought like R&C QFB, fatal exteria FX, PAIN, crash bandicoot 1,2,3,CTR, oddworld, pandimonium,RE1,2,3 and such.
sony are becoming the new M$ and i really dont like it.
they start charging for online games both my ps3s are going on ebay and im going back to where games are meant to be played.
PCs.
Beamboom
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 3:59:46 AM
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Those who need nothing else than a stockpile of singleplayer games and multiplayer FPS will still get theirs. For the rest of us however this is great news!
Beamboom
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 4:15:42 AM
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Add to this a play field that is many, many times larger and more complex than any single player game you have ever played, and a constant string of patches that adds content, and it should become a bit more clear why a monthly fee is *required* for these games to exist, and why many gamers see no problem paying a monthly fee of $15 or so. With a good mmorpg one really do not need many other games... For months.
LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 4:52:14 AM
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LegendaryWolfeh
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 7:06:34 PM
bigrailer19
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 5:01:12 AM
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Its just a little aggrivating to see this happen when clearly it doesnt need to! The PS3 is doing great, and the consumers are happy. You cant put "Playstation Network, Sign up for free" on the box then start charging people on some games to play. I know to have an acct. its free and they would be charging to play cetain games but, its just not right as a Sony consumer for this to happen. I can see why they might want to its business but what happened to the customers always right? ;)
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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 5:16:32 AM
tridon
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 5:53:01 AM
bigrailer19
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 5:05:45 PM
I spoke pretty clearly about how i understood the difference between paying for the network and paying to play a game online! So what did you not understand when reading my comment, or did you even read it?
My complaint is charging to play even an mmo online is working as WOW has become huge, but it doesnt make it right! We already purchase the game, we already buy DLC, why should we have to pay a subscription. And my comment about Sony' PSN being free, someone new to gaming or new to the network in general and it being free, might be upset to find out they still might have to pay to play a game online if they wish to do so...
And as tridon said, there are games coming very soon that we will be paying for. Its not If its going to happen, its when, which is sooner than i wish for cus i wanna play FF14 bt will not pay to play that game since i have others for free!
Beamboom
Thursday, December 31, 2009 @ 6:58:24 PM
Geobaldi
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 6:31:35 AM
Alienange
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 9:57:01 AM
Banky A
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 4:30:07 PM
tridon
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 5:51:32 AM
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I'm down with the subscription for premium content. I'd pay to beef up my PS3. However, I will never pay $70 for a game and then go and pay $10-$15 a month to play it after that. I'm semi-interested in MAG right now (even though I might not touch it because there's too many single-player adventures coming out this Spring), but if they're thinking about charging you to play it, I'll be zero interested. And what the hell? The economy looks a little better for a month or so and suddenly Sony is thinking about charging for a load of stuff? Good way to put the low-income gamers back out of commission!
JackC8
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 6:46:05 AM
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Just don't start charging me for what's free right now.
G8GTdriver
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 7:28:27 AM
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Beamboom
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 8:58:03 AM
Alienange
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 10:04:00 AM
Beamboom
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 10:53:39 AM
Some random price comparisons, source play.com:
COD MW2 PS3: £44.99 PC: £34.99
AssCreed PS3: £39.99 PC: £26.99
GTA IV PS3: £14.99 (platinum) PC: £9.99
dragon age origins: PS3: £39.99 PC: £26.99
Not to mention the hundreds of top rated PC-releases from a few years back that you get for a mere £5. I've not to this day found a PS3 game that low priced, ever. Not even the flops. There simply is no rational way of arguing that the PS3 is a cheaper gaming platform than the PC. But there are other, good arguments for the PS3!
Dewi47
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 12:55:21 PM
Fane1024
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Beamboom
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Highlander
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 11:34:57 AM
Draguss
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 12:27:02 PM
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P.S. Some people here REALLY need to learn to read through the entire article before commenting
Beamboom
Thursday, December 31, 2009 @ 8:48:56 AM
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BikerSaint
Wednesday, December 30, 2009 @ 8:09:18 PM
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phade2blaq
Friday, January 01, 2010 @ 5:10:51 AM
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Before Sony starts trying to build an online subscription service they should first fix the crappiness of the Playstation 3 !
Lets invest in figuring out why the PS3 overheats, freezes, skips. doesn't read discs, and anything else it does that Sony doesn't explain too well !
RebelExtrm02
Friday, January 01, 2010 @ 4:59:34 PM
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THE NTMIDTR
Friday, January 01, 2010 @ 11:37:09 PM
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THE NTMIDTR
Friday, January 01, 2010 @ 11:39:14 PM
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