PSXE Poll Update: MW2 Nabs Most Overrated Crown
Well, it's hardly surprising but at the same time...a tad hypocritical of some of you. ;)
When we gave Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 a review score of 8.9, we know a lot of you had some difficulty accepting the sub-9 analysis. And yet, when we ask you to determine the most overrated game of 2009, the vast majority of you have named MW2. Now, we're not disagreeing with you, but we just find this to be an interesting little conflict. ;) Anyway, as we've said before, we simply weren't as enamored with this sequel as others were, and we certainly can't figure out how sources like Joystiq and GameTrailers managed to award MW2 Game of the Year. But hey, we're well aware of this title's popularity and everyone really seems to adore the online multiplayer, so it's tough to cast aspersions on its appeal. Perhaps the question is, can a superb online aspect rocket a game to perennial, elite status in the world of gaming without the benefit of a fantastic single-player experience? It seems to be that way. On the other hand, some actually believe the newly revamped multiplayer in MW2 actually isn't as good as it was in the original. But that's just another opinion.
The question for this week is gonna be a lot more difficult: what game do you believe will be the front-runner for Game of the Year 2010? Is it a title that has been hyped like crazy so far, like Final Fantasy XIII or God of War III? Or will it be a lesser-known game like The Last Guardian? Out of the amazing lineup, which one has the best GotY shot this year?
1/3/2010 10:21:53 PM Ben Dutka
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Comments (224 posts)
to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:30:40 AM
As for MW2, i'm not going to waste my time about that anymore, my point on it has been clear, i agree with you LV, it's about time PS3 game snags the award.
As for this year, i can't believe how much better it can get, my wallets going to be crying when i'm through with it. lol
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:51:31 AM
rogers71
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:56:32 AM
to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:59:16 AM
to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:06:52 AM
Silent_J
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 8:39:11 AM
Arvis
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:39:15 PM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:45:11 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:43:42 PM
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GOWIII might get a nom though. But I'll bet most awards will go out to some thing or other that releases around the holidays.
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:50:14 PM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:07:22 AM
to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:31:54 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:32:11 AM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:41:53 AM
Banky A
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:44:58 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:39:38 AM
Arvis
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:52:21 PM
NoSmokingBandit
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:47:19 PM
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Fane1024
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 5:04:55 PM
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:50:48 PM
HeXeN
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:07:05 PM
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:19:50 PM
St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:13:29 PM
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:17:00 PM
to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:42:19 AM
to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:05:45 AM
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:00:04 PM
Scarecrow
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:31:39 PM
LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:38:27 PM
Scarecrow
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:32:25 AM
BikerSaint
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:29:28 PM
St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:12:29 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:18:29 PM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:07:07 AM
Qubex
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:29:53 AM
SvenMD
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:22:35 AM
St_Jimmy
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:41:30 PM
N a S a H
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:20:57 PM
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MW2 = Overall GOTY
U2= PS3 GOTY
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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:08:33 AM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:34:21 AM
Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:33:09 AM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:33:57 PM
Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:47:16 PM
OtisFeelgood
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:25:02 PM
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:28:03 PM
kevyd09
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:31:51 PM
*spoiler alert?*
so ghost and the charecter(cant remember his name)getting killed by his boss(shepard?) was easy to see? cos it took me by complete surprise!!
it was a good game on sp if a tad short and the multiplayer is good but theres better out there but they say popularity wins overall and mw2 has it in bucketloads!!
Deleted User
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:28:22 PM
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MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!! OMGWTFBBQ!!!!
I kid. I kid. ........ :)
End of Line.
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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:31:10 PM
Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:07:06 AM
Banky A
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:51:09 AM
___________
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:58:58 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:08:10 AM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:14:01 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:04:28 AM
___________
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:40:29 PM
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got the third one, finished it took it back.
i was not going to get COD 4 MW because COD 3 sucked, but because of all the hype and the COD fanboys frothing at the mouth i gave in.
bought it, finished it in 5 hours and took it back, same with MW2.
i really can not see whats the big deal, i mean i can think of a million and one better more fun shooters than either of those.
as for this weeks poll.
how can you forget MAFIA 2?
one of the most talked about open world games, one of the most highly praised games in existence is mafia.
you go out and ask what was the best open world game released so far, people will either say mafia, or GTA.
the E3 footage this year really impressed me, the graphics look incredible.
and FINALLY! a game made for the PC than ported to consoles.
im sick of PC games getting gimped because of console limitations.
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:09:20 AM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:16:05 AM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:54:37 AM
___________
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:03:54 AM
THATS HILARIOUS!
i think ive made it quite clear what i think about MW2.
i was talking about PC games being almost the same as the console games.
back in the day PC games were leaps and bounds above console games, now its hard to tell if im playing a game on a PC or a console.
some games are superior like batman AA, but not many.
forgive me if i want another crysis, that came out and for a good year no one had a good enough rig to play it.
thats what i want now, and im not waiting till crysis 2, RAGE or half life 2 episode 3 come out, because by then my great grand kids will have great grand kids.
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:06:14 AM
SvenMD
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:32:44 AM
You're complaining that the game is short, but if you play the multiplayer then you have HOURS of new playtime - leveling up, accolades, challenges....then spec ops. So the real reason to play this game is multiplayer with friends.
If you're going to spend $60 bucks on a game then at least milk it for everything it's worth.
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:46:36 AM
You wrote:
"finished it in 5 hours"
It is impossible to finish either of the MW games in 5 hours. I will assume you were referring to the single player campaign but nowhere did you write that.
You then go on to write:
"i really can not see whats the big deal, i mean i can think of a million and one better more fun shooters than either of those."
If you played all those other millions of shooters for only 5 hours each, then as I wrote, I am glad it is not you who writes the reviews around here.
Random indeed.
Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 11:01:06 AM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:36:56 PM
bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:53:23 PM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:13:59 PM
bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:06:33 PM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:52:43 PM
You clearly said no one can finish MW2 in 5 hrs. It's understood you're referring to the SP campaign. I finished MW2 in around 5hrs as well like Jawky. If I were to say I finished UC2 in 10hrs you wouldn’t then argue I hadn't touched the MP. You would understand that I completed the SP.
Obviously MW2 offers MP but not everyone buys games so they can go online. It's the duty of the developer to give a quality product that lives up to what they advertise. MW2 wasn't advertised as a MP game with SP. It was advertised as a SP game with MP.
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:06:14 AM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:04:45 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:10:35 AM
NeoHumpty
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:13:06 AM
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:14:52 AM
geovanwitdakick
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:10:24 AM
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NeoHumpty
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:19:10 AM
firehahahahaha
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:20:34 AM
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Hezzron
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:47:12 AM
One of which was the fact that it actually made me ill to play the stupid thing. My eyes wanted to look faster than the slowed-down camera control would let me, causing nausea. I would like to think a soldier could turn his head almost instantaneously, like most FPS's have perfected.
And KZ2's 8 hr campaign wasn't that much more generous or entertaining than MW2's. The online doesn't even compare either.
I guess everyone knows what my pick for "most overrated" was now.....
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Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:15:53 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:41:14 PM
Deleted User
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 10:01:43 AM
Cholo Gamer
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:29:37 AM
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BikerSaint
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:42:21 AM
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I'm so sick of hearing one of my 38 year old juvenile xbot co-workers going on & on about MW2 in our break room.
He keeps bragging about how he buys every single 360 shooters out there, just so he can to get the top world record FPS honor..so now it's become non-stop yakity-yak about MW2 on his box.
But I think he's got a long ways to shoot himself all the way up to the top, especially seeing how he's still stuck down around 45,500 on the overall list(so he says). LOL
BTW, I've been trying to convert him over to the PS3, by talking it up, along with KZ2 and a few others, but it's been like talking to a mindless brick wall, and one with nearsighted 360 tunnel-vision, that is.
Maybe since they look so good on the little PSP, I'll bring it in & show him a few demo's since I've already pre-loaded them into it, with MGS:Peacewalker, GOW:Chains of Olympus, LBP, Secret Agent Clank. Plus favorites, SOCOM: Tactical Strike & FireTeam Bravo2, Army of 2:40 Days,Syphon Filter:Logans Shadow, Wipeout Pulse, Motorstorm:Artic Edge, Resistance Retribution, Undead Knight, Buzz, & Flatout:Head on.....just to name a few.
On second thought, he's such a mindless silicone gel filled bubblehead, it might be better off for the entire PS3 Nation to just leave him stuck in his own little special corner of time-out in 360 La-La-Land.
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:54:49 AM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:07:15 AM
You should have seen the expressions on their faces. She just kept on rambling about how realistic mw2 was but they were both looking at me like I was some sort of alien.
Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:31:11 AM
WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:43:38 PM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:00:20 PM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:53:50 AM
Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:05:51 AM
to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:14:31 AM
Keep on with posts man, we need you here.
SP wasn't really for me, that's all i really have to say about it, i've already explained many times what my opinon of MW2 is.
Oh let's not forget about the beautiful menu screen of MW2. Who else could forget those big three rectangles
(purely from a cosmetic point, it wasn't that nice)
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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:28:05 AM
bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:51:07 AM
Based on SP alone it wasnt enough. But i think IW seen where the franchise was headed and that was MP. Was that a good choice? Well for a business stand point yes. But for quality of an overall game, maybe not.
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:49:38 AM
fluffer nutter
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:55:50 AM
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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:08:13 AM
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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:42:17 AM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:11:49 AM
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Just kidding don't get all excited.
Oh, and the explanation you're looking for is this. PSXE gave MW2 an 8.9 which caused a mass exodus from the site. The only people left behind to vote on your poll were all the MW2 haters. Hence the results.
Last edited by Alienange on 1/4/2010 1:12:24 AM
to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:16:00 AM
bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:44:27 AM
Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:16:45 AM
SvenMD
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:41:57 AM
So it has nothing to do with being an exclusive. We simpy want devs to push themselves and make superior games.
As Jawknee said, MW2 just got a fresh coat of paint...but didn't do anything to push itself further. And after 2 years of working on a title you should be blown away.
AC II and Uncharted 2 were both AMAZING compared to the already amazing first titles.
Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 8:15:53 AM
As for KZ2, how else did the devs push themselves with that game? Yea, it looks great. Otherwise, what else really changed from the first one to the next?
And as for my previous comment, I stand by it. If there are two shooters, both decent, both respected in the community, one is exclusive and the other is multi, and we're on the exclusive's console fan site, it should be no surprise as to why the exclusive is preferred.
Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:21:30 AM
Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:47:36 AM
Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:39:27 AM
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Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:50:20 AM
Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 11:26:30 AM
HeXeN
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:24:39 PM
Not everyone has the same experiences with games(in case you think everyone does).I myself don't play much FPS cause like COD they all move and feel like robots.KZ2 has been the only game that didn't feel that way.I'm also sure if Guerrilla really wanted they could have easily copied and paste the movements and feel of COD (or the other games that play the same)but they instead went away from the sheep .
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:44:32 PM
Deleted User
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 10:09:45 AM
Hex, I never said that everyone experiences things exactly the way I do and if they don't, they're wrong. I just really disagree with the notion that KZ2 is in any way more realistic movement-wise than MW2. To put it bluntly, niether one is "really" that realistic; it's just that KZ2 is soooo sluggish that it takes away from the overall experience to me.
BigBoss4ever
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:24:08 AM
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DONT GET ME WRONG, FF13 IS STILL TOP NOTCH AND PROBABLY THE BEST JRPG THIS GEN WHEN IT COMES, BUT SOMEHOW, BECAUSE OF THIS OVER ADVERTISEMENT OR OVER EXPOSE OF THE CHARACTERS, I FEEL LESS EXCITING WHEN I SEE THE GAME. VERSUS 13 IS DEFINITELY COOLER IMO.
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NeoHumpty
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:45:15 AM
Banky A
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:45:43 AM
Scarecrow
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:50:35 AM
bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:46:29 AM
Qubex
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:30:30 AM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:00:24 AM
furbiesmustdie
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:41:55 AM
I_defenestrate
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:42:03 AM
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Qubex
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:33:03 AM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:03:47 AM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:37:58 AM
Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:11:19 PM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:47:44 PM
Ya we're done with high fiving, you done sulking?
Enjoy the 95% average games on the market as you say, I'll continue to enjoy the 5% amazing games.
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Arvis
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:22:20 PM
I used to attack people who bashed FFX-2, and it got me nowhere. Just accept it.
-Arvis
bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:22:53 PM
Limited Vertigo made valid points unlike a lot of others around here. But speaking MP alone which isnt enough for people its a fine game. The problem with Limited Vertigo points is almost half only reflect to the PC. So anyone agreeing with him that played it on a PS3 or console in general is dilussional. First off being upset about the no dedicated servers, I get it if you own a PC. Second, the weak pc port reference is old. Everything is a weak pc port in your eyes LV, that doesn't justify this, as they are the same, trust me. And the auto-aim, well i understand that would be frustrating if you have a mouse. Not with joysticks its not an issue. And in all honesty you hardly recognize it unless someone just happens to run in front of your cross hairs. But when you aim your self there is literally no affect. I also must argue that SP is run and gun, but the MP is more strategic.
Also he (LV) pointed out that you can be good at the MP on day 1. Well with any game you want to be good at it so thats a selling point. But i must argue that there are people currently with a kill to death ratio that would make you puke its so sad. If your playing it on a pc like LV is its no doubt people will be good. FPS on pc are the only thing left for the PC to count on, as everything else is going to consoles as well. Sounds to me like LV is a lil' upset theres some stiff competition for him. ;) And lastly, i do agree the SP doesnt have much depth, but you can not say the MP doesnt. the MP has more depth that most other FPS MP games out there. And yes that includes KZ2. KZ2 had depth but no where near as much weapon customization, accomplishments or ranks as MW2 does and that's not even the icing on the cake. I love KZ2 and yes i think its better than MW2. But that leaves me with the question what are you trying to compare the depth to? An RPG? That wouldnt surprise me!
It's weird to me so many people just agree with anyone that has something bad to say about MW2.
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:34:52 PM
SnipeySnake
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:42:26 PM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:44:54 PM
You're way off with what you just posted. Let me help show you where you're wrong.
1)More than half of my list also plagues the console version.
2)You writing that everything is a bad PCport in my eyes is way off base and inaccurate. I've never said all PCports are bad or implied it.
3)AutoAim is the developer telling you you're not good enough to play the game on your own. You bringing up joysticks does not justify it.
4)Of course everyone wants to be good at a game, seriously why do you always state the obvious as if it's some unknown thought to the vast majority? The point is a game (especially multiplayer) that allows anyone to pick up and be good at it right off the bat is completely not rewarding and lacks any depth that would justify mastering it.
5)Please explain to me how the MP in MW2 has more depth than other FPS. It has fewer maps, less guns, less gameplay, less strategy, and less variation than just about any FPS out there.
6)I'm comparing the depth to the hundreds of FPS I've played. Any game that becomes the play all game of the year for 12 year olds says it all.
They agree with me because I make good points and I back them with valid information.
bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:04:47 PM
Sorry but now your just arguing to argue.
1) half your list maybe plagues the console version in your opinion. As i said the didicated servers i can understand for you but no one with a PS3. Nor the auto-aim, nor the weak pc port. The run and gun is just how you play cus im strategic.
2) everything in your eyes is a bad pc port. You always make the claim "just buy it on the machine it was intended" pretty much nails that one down.
3) Auto-Aim is not an issue unless you yourself can't find out how to counter it which i could see with a mouse. Its there yes and yes it can be an annoyance but regardless, It's not an issue. Sorry somehow you are not good with auto-aim, and that makes the game a failure for you.
4) U missed my point here. I wasnt stating the obvious to make a point. But your right that is obvious and its a plus for MW2. But i will argue all day that yes it may be a pick up and play game. but its not a pick up and play and be good at on day one game, nor day 2. Trust me i already explained there are plenty of people online struggling.
5)The MP in MW2 has depth because you have tons of weapon customizations, tons of perks, and the perk tree, the killstreak rewards and the death streak rewards. It also has tons of ranks, and many prestiges (although i hate the prestige). And if your speaking literally and serious tons of guns doesnt make the game more in depth. Guns play a pivital role in carrying out missions, and Even if you have 100 guns in front of you chances are anyone who really knows guns will still pick the M-16, a G36 (which MW2 doesnt have) an M4, and so on. Your going to pick the gun that suits you and your style of play, so thats not an issue. And we should see a map pack sometime in the future so... And i already compared 2 games to eachother above.
6) So your saying because 12 year olds are beating you, you dont like it, or somehow that means it had less depth? you combined two different subjects in one point. So what if MW2 appeals to a large amount of plenty of different people? That somehow makes it bad?
They agree with you because yes you make good points, but they also agree with anything bad about MW2. Dont get too big of a head over that because i wasnt referring to you. That comment was in regards to MW2 genreally being spoken bad of.
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:25:17 PM
2)Correct I do say to get a game for its intended platform. That's why I bought L4D2 for PC, FFXIII for the PS3, and will be getting Bayonetta for the 360. (Like how I just destroyed your argument)
3) How could anyone not be good with auto aim? I didn't mention it to imply it makes a game harder. It CLEARLY makes it easier. Christ, seriously how do you take such an obvious point on my part and twist it to mean the game is too hard because the developer is holding my hand throughout the game.
4) Anyone you know that is struggling with the game I'm sure is unable to drive a car, brush their teeth, and wipe their ass.
5) A map pack, w00h00! Have fun paying for extra content that should have been included from day one. Also a kill streak? That's neat...it's the Tony Hawk of FPS.
6) I never said 12 year olds were beating me, there you go putting words in my mouth again. You have a really bad habit of doing that, I suggest you read over everything I write twice since you're showing you're unable to take it all in on the first read.
Actually I was dead on with why they agree with me. Since you disagree of course you're going to throw out that they are mindless followers only agreeing with me because I'm anti MW2.
If you're going to reply again I suggest doing your homework. This is getting old.
bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:46:48 PM
1) I agree that you have valid points in some cases not this time. I'm not going to preove my points on that subject cus yours are purely opinion and DON'T ALL affect a console. I stated that above AGAIN!
2) I quoted you because when you say its intended machine you ussually speak of the PC, and you yourself can not argue that. You always pick apart FPS on console and really its ilegitamate. You and Ben have been in several erguments about the PC and console debate many times as have yo an I and you're always pro PC. Just cus your good with a mouse doesnt mean other people are or prefer it. As ive said i have a friend whos been PC since he was born and now plays all his games on a PS3. Some people enjoy it more. (See how i used your word to destroy you, gosh lol.) i say that and laugh cus you didnt destroy me you basically just changed your words. Get off it!
3) Because is it really logical to say somethings bad when it helps you out? i can only assume it makes your horrible and harder for you.
4) I dont know anyone struggling, its the people that play all day and i recognize there stats. Just cus your good and the vast majority of the PC commubnity is good doesnt mean EVERYONE is somehow able to get this game and immediately start tearing it up.
5)Its funny cus i seen that map pack remark coming. Regardless There is a shortage of maps but that still doesnt involve the depth of gameplay. And i see you have no remark about the guns wonder why!?
6) I dont put words in your mouth. again you didnt even explain yourself. At this point your not even making points you just keep repeating yourself to everything i have said.
I could care less if you like MW2 or not but your points are only valid to you and your opinions. I dont think people agreed with you 100% on everything you said because you played it on pc, if they did they would be dillussional based on the arguments i've given.
We can go at this all day but at the end your points are only valid as opinions as are mine. If you reply to this i suggest you come up with something that defies what my arguments are rather than just bashing my intelligence. Your clearly not arguing about MW2 any more just about what im saying.
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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:01:48 PM
2)Please point out when I've said PC is better when it comes to a particular game. If you're going to accuse than you better be willing to supply some form of evidence. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass and your credibility is shot.
3) Yes it is VERY logical to find fault with a game mechanic that doesn't offer me complete control but rather baby steps for the simplest thing like aiming a gun. How about this, in Super Mario Brothers instead of pressing a/b to jump the developer makes you jump when you approach a box. It's the same thing. The whole point of videogames is allowing the gamer to GAME.
4) Everyone I know that plays it along with all that I've read (which is a lot) is evidence to what I'm saying. Nothing you say is backed up by anything other than the select few you evidently think aren't good at the game. It's common knowledge that MW2 is a pick up and play MP experience.
5) The maps are small and offer nothing but run and gun. You think that's depth? I didn't comment on your gun comments because you wrote a paragraph, excuse me for only taking a few points as the whole. In regards to the guns now there is nothing new to MW2 that hasn’t been done before. The guns sound similar, shoot similar, and are just variations of the same thing. You're easily fooled.
6) If all you're going to do is throw out BS comments and claim I say them than I will continue to say the same thing which is "You're wrong and it's obvious".
That's bullshit. Saying an opinion is only valid to the one that has them. That's the equivalent of saying a review is just an opinion. There are facts and well known established information that a person can base their opinions around. This is what I do. I offer an opinion and make it valid with information that backs it up. You on the other hand talk out your ass and accuse me of saying certain things but offer ZERO evidence to support it.
bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:20:52 PM
2) I can supply evidence. and i can supply the arguments you have been in with Ben about you preferring the PC. It will take time as I'd have to search PSXE to retrieve them.
3) Bottom line auto aim is there to help. If for some reason your hindered by it then i blame it on your mouse as i can see that happening. Its very easy to correct rather than over correct. I liek your point on allowing the gamer to play though. but in all honesty if auto aim affects you that much i cant say we're playing the same game.
4) Hey im providing you with evidence that Not everyone can play this game. Rather than taking some ones word im experiencing this myself. This point is subjective so lets just drop it. If theres to much competition for you then your obviously not a good sport about it. Any competition is healthy competition, i say bring em on. not bash the game cus of it!
5) I have said the maps are small and confined which more than half are. But that results in less run and gun as there is more cover. MW2 is strategic, it just depends on how you play. Maybe the PC community would rather run and gun but i know myself and friends are not all about that. As far as the guns go again you have 6 classes and your always going to choose the gun best suited for you. There are enough weapons and more than plenty of upgrades and accomplishments for each, to keep it fresh. I dont know you must be spoiled.
6) I dont understand how somehow your opinions are Valid and mine are not. Your arrogance keeps getting the best of you, and you just keep repeating yourself. I never said your wrong and your opinions dont matter, i just said i disagree with you.
And as a reviewer you express your feelings on a game, and what that game offers, and your take on it. As a reviewer people will agree and disagree with you as we are doing right now, so what was your point in there? I backed all my answers up with supportive information, you must have failed to read that since your opinions only matter!
Im gonna end it right here though, because its nor going anywheer. Listen i repsect you and what you have to say. I would never tell anyone what they say is absolute BS because you have opinions. I would expect the same in return but i know i wont get that from everyone. Im sorry you feel that way about MW2, and im sorry you cant enjoy it like i can. But i do know for certain there are many other games we both like and enjoy and maybe rather than argue we'll have a much more agreeable conversation when FF13 or GOW 3 comes out.
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HeXeN
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:11:00 PM
LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:11:04 PM
Stop breaking the MW2 debate into a console vs. pc argument. There is none here nor has there been one. This is my last reply to you on this matter since clearly you're intent on responding with long paragraphs that go nowhere and just go in circles.
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:26:37 AM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:57:00 AM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:59:49 AM
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I don't know about 2010's GOTY but am guessing Heavy Rain, since some critics who have seen the game in action are making a whole lot of noise as to how its a great game and definitely a GOTY contender. To me its either Heavy Rain or FFXIII or GT5, I dunno....
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kevyd09
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:55:04 PM
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Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 9:12:38 AM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:57:55 AM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:19:48 AM
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As far as multiplayer only games, as soon as a sequel comes out MW2 will be worthless as the online will be abandoned by everyone. And glitches will be allowed to pile up and be exploited, because Activision will want to force everyone into buying the next installment.
When you look at great games of the past, it's nice to be able to play them. Of course, that option won't exist with stuff like MW2. A few years from now people will see this title got a game of the year award, pick it up and be utterly disappointed.
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 8:55:32 AM
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As for the new poll, I know everyone will vote for "God of War III", but my personal pick for GOTY 2010 is "The Last Guardian". "ICO" and "Shadow of the Colossus" are two of my favorite games of all time, and I can't wait to play as that little boy with the pet cat/bird/lizard-thingy. =D
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:02:41 AM
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I voted that MW2 was the most overrated yes, and I think that games like U2, K2 etc deseveres alot more attention then MW2. But what can we do?
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:19:34 AM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:36:47 AM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:36:39 AM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:01:02 PM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:12:32 PM
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So then, why would it be the most over-rated if you didn't rate it high? Because the rest of the gaming community rated it consistently higher? Of course.
Funny thing is that MW2 continues to be the most played game on my friends list. And, on top of that, hundreds of thousands of people play it at any given time during the day.
But I guess the rest of the gaming community doesn't know what they are doing. They all must be mindless puppets to the game developers clinging to the next fad.
Over-rated? not by this site, lol.
Out of curiosity, I would like to know what game came in second. To me, that's your real winner. Matter of fact, you should of did the poll like the best exclusive game this year. Besides MW2, .....
Mightynemesis
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:38:38 PM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:23:12 PM
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Now don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those die hard call of duty multiplayer fanatics, I am actually in agreement with your other articles where you say single player is more important than multi-player. MW2 is actually the first call of duty I have played all the way through.
I was expecting to be disappointed, but I must say, it was the most pleasant surprise I had this year with a game. I guess I am one of the few that thought it had an awesome single player campaign. I would never buy a game unless I heard at least some feedback on a good single player as I hate multiplayer.
That's why I was going to pass on this game because of what I had heard. But then my brother visited for the holidays and I played through his copy, and I must say, if anything this title is underrated on this site.
Like I said, I do not think it deserved game of the year, but it definitely should have been a contender.
Scarecrow
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:51:55 PM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:56:24 PM
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Scarecrow
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:38:11 PM
It can't be compared to SF
2D fighting cannot be compared to 3D fighting
But if you're looking to compare which fighter is king? I suggest you go look at Virtua Fighter 5's reviews compared to Street Fighter IV. The answer's right in your face.
By the way, SFIV scored way higher than MW2 on psxe and p;obably many other sites as well.
I can back up my statements. You can't
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:02:18 PM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:44:32 PM
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:39:20 PM
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It deserves to be recognised as a great game, but it was blown out of proportion when you consider it is a sequel and had a very good foundation to build on. I feel other games were far more deserving.
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:15:47 PM
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I think i'll play through it again without the bit there I may even skip the level altogether and see how it feels playing it that way.
I chose not to skip the level. Not all my friends who have played it chose not to skip.
Infamous how did that fare ? I love Infamous and feel it didn't hardly get a mention. I have tried to pass on how good a game it is to friends but they don't appear to be interested.
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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:01:57 PM
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HeXeN
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:49:43 AM
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Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 3:53:14 AM
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i still don't have MW2 yet, it will be on a redemption not my money. I think it's a a good game, with great MP, i don't have a good connexion for this so i prefer SP games. I think ot's overrated because for me to meet GOTY standard a game must have less bug & more appreciation, UC2 deserved it, yet we have a lot of runner up, mostly on PS3 side.
as for 2010 - I'm sure i'll own God of War III, Heavy Rain, The Last Guardian & maybe also GT5. I'm not into FFX genre & on Multi i'm going for Dante's Inferno, Darksiders, if Castlevania is out & will see if some announcements are made on sequels or new IPs.
it will be difficult to know what will be GOTY, PS3 will own 2010 ;) ...
my personnal pref would still go for The Last Guardian with God of War III as runner up, i just wish they release a Team ICO collection soon.
cheers!
calculator
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 7:44:27 PM
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I was hugely disappointed with MW2.
Once I get my platinum trophy, this game will be out of my collection.
BTW, is anyone here good at Spec Ops? I need help with two more missions (Snatch n grab, Wetwork) to get all 69 stars in Spec Ops. My PSN ID is calculator, if anyone is willing to help.
PS. I love PSXE.
GuernicaReborn
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 11:59:38 AM
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Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2









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Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:35:06 PM
I'm really hoping another PS3 game wins GOTY on other sites/award shows this year. It's hard to believe after such an amazing 2009 that 2010 is looking just as good if not better. I'm going to vote for: Heavy Rain. The hype machine has me fully.