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PSXE Poll Update: MW2 Nabs Most Overrated Crown

Well, it's hardly surprising but at the same time...a tad hypocritical of some of you. ;)

When we gave Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 a review score of 8.9, we know a lot of you had some difficulty accepting the sub-9 analysis. And yet, when we ask you to determine the most overrated game of 2009, the vast majority of you have named MW2. Now, we're not disagreeing with you, but we just find this to be an interesting little conflict. ;) Anyway, as we've said before, we simply weren't as enamored with this sequel as others were, and we certainly can't figure out how sources like Joystiq and GameTrailers managed to award MW2 Game of the Year. But hey, we're well aware of this title's popularity and everyone really seems to adore the online multiplayer, so it's tough to cast aspersions on its appeal. Perhaps the question is, can a superb online aspect rocket a game to perennial, elite status in the world of gaming without the benefit of a fantastic single-player experience? It seems to be that way. On the other hand, some actually believe the newly revamped multiplayer in MW2 actually isn't as good as it was in the original. But that's just another opinion.

The question for this week is gonna be a lot more difficult: what game do you believe will be the front-runner for Game of the Year 2010? Is it a title that has been hyped like crazy so far, like Final Fantasy XIII or God of War III? Or will it be a lesser-known game like The Last Guardian? Out of the amazing lineup, which one has the best GotY shot this year?

1/3/2010 10:21:53 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (224 posts)

LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:35:06 PM
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I've been pretty clear on how I view MW2 so I'll just let that be.

I'm really hoping another PS3 game wins GOTY on other sites/award shows this year. It's hard to believe after such an amazing 2009 that 2010 is looking just as good if not better. I'm going to vote for: Heavy Rain. The hype machine has me fully.

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:30:40 AM

The hype machine has had me for some time also, what's not to like about the originality and how unique a title can be?

As for MW2, i'm not going to waste my time about that anymore, my point on it has been clear, i agree with you LV, it's about time PS3 game snags the award.

As for this year, i can't believe how much better it can get, my wallets going to be crying when i'm through with it. lol

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:51:31 AM

Ya I'm going to be piss poor come April but I'm going to enjoy eating hot dogs and tomato soup.

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rogers71
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:56:32 AM

Yeah,
I didn't even read the whole list. As soon as I saw MW2 I clicked on that game. The lack of single player campaign story is what did it for me. Although, I will say the special ops missions are addictive.

I am with you. Let the PS3 reign supreme for another year.

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:59:16 AM

@LV

Tell me about it, i'm going to run out way to fast. At this rate i'll be buying Ramen Noodles hahah

Crap, now you got me hungry lol

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:05:47 AM

Love me some chicken ramen.

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:06:52 AM

By far the best of the Ramen noodles, if we keep up this talk i'm going to have to start getting some grub lol

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Silent_J
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 8:39:11 AM

@world ..spicy chicken is my ramen fix lol

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Arvis
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:39:15 PM

EVERYONE knows Oriental Ramen is the best! You guys ar dumm fanboiz!!

-Arvis

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:45:11 PM

Hey Arvis, I'm making a Final Fantasy Tactics cereal and not letting you have any.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:43:42 PM
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Yeah MW2 pretty much had that poll locked in. I'm going to have to hold off on the next GOTY because well, I just don't have any hope that it will even be a game that releases early on. People will forget about FFXIII in this industry as fast as they forgot about KZ2 last year.

GOWIII might get a nom though. But I'll bet most awards will go out to some thing or other that releases around the holidays.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:50:14 PM

I'll mail you 5 dollars if you change your pic back...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:06:12 AM

Can you paypal it to me?

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:07:22 AM

ya, send me a link/email and I'll transfer the funds tonight.

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:31:54 AM

hahaha damn, its guys like you that keep me coming back here, you two are great lol along with highlander and some others i've met around here

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:32:11 AM

How the crap am I sposeda do that? Does the mainsite even have a PM?

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:41:53 AM

Just give me the email that is attatched with your paypal account.

My email is:
Limited_Vertigo
@
yahoo
.com

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Banky A
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:42:14 AM

Awesome-sauce

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Banky A
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:44:58 AM

And no, Kratos will be remembered, forever ;)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:39:38 AM

SpikeThePimp
@
aol
.com

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Arvis
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:52:21 PM

World,

How on earth are you ever going to get a job with an email address like that?? ;)

-Arvis

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NoSmokingBandit
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:47:19 PM
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I vote GoWIII for next year. It probably wont win the awards it deserves because it will be released early in the year (much like KZ2 in 2009), but if the whole game plays anything like the demo it is going to be tough to beat.

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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:08:45 PM

loving the avatar dude.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:16:26 PM

We know it's you Kevin!

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Fane1024
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 5:04:55 PM

That's why I voted for "some other title".

All these early-in-the-year releases will get forgotten by next fall, regardless of how good they are (see Killzone 2).

p.s. Thanks, Ben, for including a "none-of-the-above" option.

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Juanalf
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:48:19 PM
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I'm really pulling for the Last guardian to win the GOTY.The poor game is not getting talked about by any one and deserves some spot light.Oh and Joystiq awarded Uncharted 2 the goty not MW2.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:50:48 PM

I doubt it comes out in 2010. I also doubt you played ICO :)

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Juanalf
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:07:05 PM

Well I haven't(yet)although SOTC has been played by me so much that I had to retire it, and according to Fumito it is expected for 2010.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:19:50 PM

Wanna bet on it? I bet you 3 1/2 apples that it doesn't come out in 2010.

Glad to hear you've played through SOTC. When biker saint gets done playing my copy of ICO you're more than welcome to borrow it. I strongly suggest playing ICO in order to truly experience all SOTC has to offer.

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Jed
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:51:44 PM
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SURPRISE.

not

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:58:42 PM

What's your favorite candy bar?

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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:13:29 PM

hmm tie between skor and oh henry. Oh wait, bueno is my fav ever!

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Jed
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:14:46 PM

I guess I dont get it.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:17:00 PM

It's not a joke (who has a joke that has anything to do with a candy bar?)

I was just wondering...

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:42:19 AM

Dude, now i feel like grabbing a snickers..

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:23:31 AM

Caramello man, Caramello.

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:05:45 AM

oh man, carmellos rock also.

Theres just to many good candy bays man

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ace_boon_coon
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:23:42 AM

whatchmacallit

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Arvis
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:54:56 PM

I'm particular to Mounds, myself.

-Arvis

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Scarecrow
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 10:56:59 PM
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MW2's a joke, overhyped waste of time

GT5 will get game of the year, this year.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:00:04 PM

Hey Scarecrow what's with the lack of responses whenever I reply to your posts? You still pissed about my comment regarding Squall not being able to pleasure me sexually?

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Scarecrow
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:31:39 PM

What was your last question?
Sometimes the questions asked require a long response lol....I get lazy sometimes, man!

But yes, just ask, I'll try to reply

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:38:27 PM

Duly noted, thanks for clearing that up. You're one of the members I enjoy reading comments from.

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___________
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:42:08 PM

IF its out this year ;)

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Scarecrow
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:32:25 AM

@Limited,
Thanks

This site's encourages that kind of fun and educative discussions, so yeah, everyone's input here is cool and interesting in their own way.

Specially since there's little to none flaming.

@blank
It better come out this year. Even I would be pissed if it doesn't...

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BikerSaint
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:29:28 PM

@LV,
HMMMM, I see I'm late for the party once again, as usual....

I'd sure be happy settling down for a couple of "Zero" bars though

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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:12:29 PM
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ello gents! miss me ahhh why do i ask, of course you did! If you dont recognize me it's......KEVINATER! well i'm back b*tches and i love to see the old members again(limited, world),jeez i missed you guys! it was only like 2 or 3 days but i felt like forever, and as usual limited vertigo was right,and im back with this sight and i'm on fire fox (not as good as internet but i keeps the pop ups and shiz away) So yeah i will be posting here again regularly. ta ta for now.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:18:29 PM

Ahhh, the beauty of youth. Of course you're back. Reminded me of my days in TFC back in 1999 when I was 18 and quit a clan 3 times in 2 weeks over some bullshit.

Welcome back, glad to hear you're using firefox.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:07:07 AM

Welcome back to the fray, did you get a good adblocker?

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Qubex
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:29:53 AM

Good to have you back Kavinator... like the Terminator :)

Q!

"i am home"

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SvenMD
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:22:35 AM

Firefox keeps loggin me off of my username and password here at psxextreme...so this is the only site I use IE.

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St_Jimmy
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:41:30 PM

Firefox is working great aside from being not used to the layout i love it. and yeah world i guess it came with firefox but i works great.

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N a S a H
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:20:57 PM
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Why is it overrated? I don't care what people say. If you have the perfect game, why change it around and f**k it up? Just make it better and give the people who loved it before the option to play it their own way.

MW2 = Overall GOTY
U2= PS3 GOTY

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:08:33 AM

It's over rated because it wasn't as good as advertised. Drrrrrr!

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:34:21 AM

Yeah NaSaH, what were you thinking?? Advertising never exaggerates and has always been honest with us. But then they go and advertise MW2 as an FPS that is full of action. How DARE they!

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:33:09 AM

It wasn't just the adds and you know that. Just about every review was inflated. If we're not supposed to trust reviewers then what relevancy do they have?

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:33:57 PM

Jawknee, those are words of someone who only looks at the numbers on the reviews. Every review I've read about MW2 has pointed out the flaws as well as mentioned the good. Very few have been fanboyish in what they've written and the reviews are mostly accurate and reliable. If you don't like FPS games then obviously you won't be happy with the great reviews and believe them to be overrated.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:47:16 PM

Don't assume I only look at numbers. There's no way for you to know for certain.

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OtisFeelgood
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:25:02 PM
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MW2 is a really good game and I wish the single player was longer but I agree with it being the most over-hyped game of the year.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:28:03 PM

When you say it's a really good game are you saying that due to the SP or the MP? I played the SP and didn't get what the hype was all about. It was far too short, predictable, and definitely not as good as KZ2.

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kevyd09
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:31:51 PM

its predictable?
*spoiler alert?*
so ghost and the charecter(cant remember his name)getting killed by his boss(shepard?) was easy to see? cos it took me by complete surprise!!
it was a good game on sp if a tad short and the multiplayer is good but theres better out there but they say popularity wins overall and mw2 has it in bucketloads!!

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Deleted User
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:28:22 PM
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MW2 will win game of the year this year in 2010!! Why? Because when income taxes come alot more people are going to buy the greatest multiplayer game of all time and join them. They will probably sell another 6 million and tick Ben off and give him a heart attack ............

MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA!!!! OMGWTFBBQ!!!!

I kid. I kid. ........ :)

End of Line.

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LimitedVertigo
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:31:10 PM

Spam Spam Spam Spam Spam


See I can do it too!

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:07:06 AM

Your posts are a waste of text. Go awaaaaaaay...

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Banky A
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:51:09 AM

But he said OMGWTFBBQ.
Come on! That's good.

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___________
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:58:58 AM

insomniac should receive a medal for that.
i completley pissed myself laughing when i saw that.
classic!

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:36:38 AM

Thanks Drithe, that was hilarious.

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Scarecrow
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:44:43 PM

Garbage, just like the game

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SnipeySnake
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:40:20 PM

*loads bazooka*

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Bo0mKiiD
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:30:26 PM
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I love ps3 games as much as the next guy but Mass Effect 2 looks awesome.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:08:10 AM

I still think it will get a port later on when exclusivity runs out. Actually I'm thinking they will stick 1&2 on a single blu ray.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:14:01 AM

Get it for PC like me, it's the intended platform.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:04:28 AM

My PC is old, ME1 didn't function on it. Can't afford a new one without breaking the bank, all I really use it for is internet and writing.

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___________
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:40:29 PM
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ive never been able to get into COD.
got the third one, finished it took it back.
i was not going to get COD 4 MW because COD 3 sucked, but because of all the hype and the COD fanboys frothing at the mouth i gave in.
bought it, finished it in 5 hours and took it back, same with MW2.
i really can not see whats the big deal, i mean i can think of a million and one better more fun shooters than either of those.

as for this weeks poll.
how can you forget MAFIA 2?
one of the most talked about open world games, one of the most highly praised games in existence is mafia.
you go out and ask what was the best open world game released so far, people will either say mafia, or GTA.
the E3 footage this year really impressed me, the graphics look incredible.
and FINALLY! a game made for the PC than ported to consoles.
im sick of PC games getting gimped because of console limitations.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:09:20 AM

Wait what? Most games are made on PCs then forced into console architecture.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:16:05 AM

I'm guessing he's still bitching about MW2 which broke the mold.

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:54:37 AM

@ namelesswonder - You played both MW1 and MW2 for 5 hours and think you've somehow finished them? You didn't bother to see how much game can be found under Spec Ops in MW2 or that there is a major multiplayer component? Thank goodness it's not you reviewing these games because you don't even look a the damn menu screens properly.

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___________
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:03:54 AM

MW2?
THATS HILARIOUS!
i think ive made it quite clear what i think about MW2.
i was talking about PC games being almost the same as the console games.
back in the day PC games were leaps and bounds above console games, now its hard to tell if im playing a game on a PC or a console.
some games are superior like batman AA, but not many.
forgive me if i want another crysis, that came out and for a good year no one had a good enough rig to play it.
thats what i want now, and im not waiting till crysis 2, RAGE or half life 2 episode 3 come out, because by then my great grand kids will have great grand kids.

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___________
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:06:14 AM

what does spec ops or MP have to do with anything?
wow, talk about random.
i was not complaining that it was short, i was complaining that its crap.
and over rated.

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SvenMD
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:32:44 AM

Spec Ops and Multiplayer have EVERYTHING to do with it. That's pretty much why they made a sequel....people do in fact love multiplayer. The single player in MW2 is definitely sub-par even in comparison to MW1...but especially sub-par compared to KZ2 or R2.

You're complaining that the game is short, but if you play the multiplayer then you have HOURS of new playtime - leveling up, accolades, challenges....then spec ops. So the real reason to play this game is multiplayer with friends.

If you're going to spend $60 bucks on a game then at least milk it for everything it's worth.

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:46:36 AM

Here blank boy, let me help you understand what you wrote.
You wrote:
"finished it in 5 hours"

It is impossible to finish either of the MW games in 5 hours. I will assume you were referring to the single player campaign but nowhere did you write that.

You then go on to write:
"i really can not see whats the big deal, i mean i can think of a million and one better more fun shooters than either of those."

If you played all those other millions of shooters for only 5 hours each, then as I wrote, I am glad it is not you who writes the reviews around here.

Random indeed.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 11:01:06 AM

Actually I finished MW2 in just about 5 hours, give it take a few minutes. I assure you it's possible.

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:36:56 PM

Hey, thanks for not getting the point there Jawknee.

There is a lot more to MW2 than the 5 hour sp campaign. Why is that so hard for you to see?

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:50:49 PM

Anytime!

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:53:23 PM

alienange-

Because everyone is so bent up about the SP. They cant look past that.

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:13:59 PM

I know bigrailer19. And thanks for spelling my name right.

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:06:33 PM

i know i ussually spell it wrong and i appologize.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:52:43 PM

@ Alienange

You clearly said no one can finish MW2 in 5 hrs. It's understood you're referring to the SP campaign. I finished MW2 in around 5hrs as well like Jawky. If I were to say I finished UC2 in 10hrs you wouldn’t then argue I hadn't touched the MP. You would understand that I completed the SP.

Obviously MW2 offers MP but not everyone buys games so they can go online. It's the duty of the developer to give a quality product that lives up to what they advertise. MW2 wasn't advertised as a MP game with SP. It was advertised as a SP game with MP.

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Robochic
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:42:43 PM
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This wasnt' a suprise to me all I hear about is MW2 kinda sick of it.

GOTY will be a toss up with GOWIII or GT5 I would say Heavy rain but I think this game is going to under the radar just like KZ2 which is very sad cause this game looks flip'n amazing cant' wait.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:06:14 AM

MW2 is like a fast food hamburger. Tastes great up front but you're done with it far too soon and the after thought has you doubting yourself. KZ2 is a fine wine, with each sip/playthrough you taste/see new things and it grows on you. Months later it still packs a punch.

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NeoHumpty
Sunday, January 03, 2010 @ 11:49:03 PM
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I wish sometimes that I was a bigger multiplayer fan. I rented MW2 from Gamefly and beat it in 2 sittings. Never bothered logging into the MP. I hate getting my butt handed to me over and over by 12 year olds. I'm getting high hopes for DC Universe and FFXIV, though.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:04:45 AM

I'll be seeing you in FFXIV. What's great about FF online is others can help you get better and it wont be full of teenagers wanting the biggest gun.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:10:35 AM

lol, yeah I must admit the kids with lots of time on their hands and superb twitchy ADD hand me my own ass too often.

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NeoHumpty
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:13:06 AM

Cool. I'll be looking to build up my friend list if I get into it (FFXIV, that is). If you send an add request to NeoHumpty, I'll add you next time I log on. That goes for anyone on here, really. Just let me know who you are on here. It's a pretty sharp group of gamers on this forum. Thanks, PSXE.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:14:52 AM

Virtual high five!


Ya... lame, but come on, it's late.

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geovanwitdakick
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:10:24 AM
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I think that God Of War 3 will win, & if it does not, it will be a game that will not be released Q1. Personally, I could already tell Heavy Rain is going to be my fav. I don't think it's concept will grasp alot of gamer's attentions though.

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NeoHumpty
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:19:10 AM

I just don't see GoW3 being as in depth as I'm getting used to this generation. I hope I'm wrong, and I will be playing it. But, Uncharted 2 has some pretty big shoes to fill for the next winner of GOTY '10. Just my2 cents. I've been wrong once or twice before.

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firehahahahaha
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:20:34 AM
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I'm so tired of anyone even considering mw2 over kz2.
With that said, I'd personally love to see the last guardian win, but I doubt it will :(.

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Hezzron
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:47:12 AM

I disagree. KZ2, outside of the graphics engine, had huge problems.

One of which was the fact that it actually made me ill to play the stupid thing. My eyes wanted to look faster than the slowed-down camera control would let me, causing nausea. I would like to think a soldier could turn his head almost instantaneously, like most FPS's have perfected.

And KZ2's 8 hr campaign wasn't that much more generous or entertaining than MW2's. The online doesn't even compare either.

I guess everyone knows what my pick for "most overrated" was now.....

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Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:15:53 AM

Hezz, you hit the nail on the head. I felt entirely too sluggish with KZ2 and I'm supposed to be a futuristic soldier?! Say what you want about MW2, but KZ2 is NOT as good a game. Nowhere near the depth in MP, the SP is the same type of "on-the-rails fps" as MW2, and there is no Spec Ops mode. A lot of people seem to forget that there are 20 different modes to do in Spec Ops! I am completely fine with MW2 using a lot of resources to include co-op set pieces instead of making the campaign longer. Somebody said that people forgot about KZ2 because it came out so early in the year. It's not because it came out earlier, it's because it isn't quite as good as other shooters out there. On PS3 alone, check the numbers, more people will play MW2 a lot longer. Even as MAG comes out. What did KZ2 have to compete with? COD4? Now that it has competition, it's getting pushed to the side.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:41:14 PM

You are a soldier in the future, not a futuristic soldier. But I guess being in a Modern Warfare scrape gives you the ability to float around like no real person can.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 10:01:43 AM

World, what do you mean by "Modern Warfare gives you the ability to float around"?

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Cholo Gamer
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:29:37 AM
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Yeah it's super overated I give it an 8.1, but whatever I'm voting for Heavy Rain that game looks epic.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:02:18 AM

i love your pic =)

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BikerSaint
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:42:21 AM
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This title reminds me of something at work.....

I'm so sick of hearing one of my 38 year old juvenile xbot co-workers going on & on about MW2 in our break room.

He keeps bragging about how he buys every single 360 shooters out there, just so he can to get the top world record FPS honor..so now it's become non-stop yakity-yak about MW2 on his box.

But I think he's got a long ways to shoot himself all the way up to the top, especially seeing how he's still stuck down around 45,500 on the overall list(so he says). LOL

BTW, I've been trying to convert him over to the PS3, by talking it up, along with KZ2 and a few others, but it's been like talking to a mindless brick wall, and one with nearsighted 360 tunnel-vision, that is.

Maybe since they look so good on the little PSP, I'll bring it in & show him a few demo's since I've already pre-loaded them into it, with MGS:Peacewalker, GOW:Chains of Olympus, LBP, Secret Agent Clank. Plus favorites, SOCOM: Tactical Strike & FireTeam Bravo2, Army of 2:40 Days,Syphon Filter:Logans Shadow, Wipeout Pulse, Motorstorm:Artic Edge, Resistance Retribution, Undead Knight, Buzz, & Flatout:Head on.....just to name a few.

On second thought, he's such a mindless silicone gel filled bubblehead, it might be better off for the entire PS3 Nation to just leave him stuck in his own little special corner of time-out in 360 La-La-Land.



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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:54:49 AM

Your coworker I bet couldn't handle one sidequest in an RPG. I bet all he does is camp during MP fights and then scream at those half his age for reloading during a gunfight.

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:07:15 AM

I met a couple of xbots behind the cash register of a book store just recently. I bring my gaming mag to the counter and the girl (yeah that's right) says "do you have an xbox?" I answer yeah. She says "do you have mw2 for it?!" all excited like. The guy next to her is frothing at the mouth by this time. I say "no, for ps3."

You should have seen the expressions on their faces. She just kept on rambling about how realistic mw2 was but they were both looking at me like I was some sort of alien.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:31:11 AM

Suprisingly PS3 users out number the Xbots at my work place.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:43:38 PM

PS3 MW2 is less sluggish, you run faster and the controller response is faster.

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:00:20 PM

Is that true World? I didn't know that. Nor do I have a way to check.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:44:29 AM
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I was perfectly content with PSX review score. If anything it was generous. The MP is fun enough but the SP was quite lame. The environments are weak and It required too many patches for my taste. Not deserving of GOTY.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:53:50 AM

Was wondering where the hell you were. Stop sexing your wife and post more, christ.

The SP in MW2 made ODST look like Mario Sunshine.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:05:51 AM

Hahaha in fact.....errr never mind.

Indeed. When I was finished with the SP I couldn't believed I wasted five hours on that turd.

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:14:31 AM

bow chika wowow

Keep on with posts man, we need you here.

SP wasn't really for me, that's all i really have to say about it, i've already explained many times what my opinon of MW2 is.

Oh let's not forget about the beautiful menu screen of MW2. Who else could forget those big three rectangles

(purely from a cosmetic point, it wasn't that nice)

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:28:05 AM

Spec Ops i have to admit was quite fun. Other then that's it's just another Call of Duty with a fresh coat of paint and a crappier SP.

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:51:07 AM

Yeah honestly an 8.9 is a good score. I think it deserves that score nothing more, and nothing less. The spec ops and MP definately saved it jawknee you are right.

Based on SP alone it wasnt enough. But i think IW seen where the franchise was headed and that was MP. Was that a good choice? Well for a business stand point yes. But for quality of an overall game, maybe not.

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www
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:49:38 AM

Yea I was okay with that score but I just hate .9s, I'd rather its rounded off to a 9

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fluffer nutter
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:55:50 AM
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I believe that the GOTY will go to something coming out in the final quarter of '10. That's just the way it will play out, sadly.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:45:08 PM

yup

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:08:13 AM
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only one word that can some up my overall agreement with this article

supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:42:17 AM

im not sure you spelled it right... ;)

prolly did though.

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:06:34 AM

probably not, i winged it lol

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:11:49 AM
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Is this the weekly MW2 hate article you mentioned you would be doing earlier this week Ben?

Just kidding don't get all excited.

Oh, and the explanation you're looking for is this. PSXE gave MW2 an 8.9 which caused a mass exodus from the site. The only people left behind to vote on your poll were all the MW2 haters. Hence the results.

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:16:00 AM

Fortunately, this site has a lot of very sensible writers to clearly dictate a certain viewpoint.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:29:30 AM

Your still here. ;)

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:44:27 AM

I dont understand. an 8.9 is an excellent score.

And also I've never seen so much hate in one place for a game than here about MW2 (maybe halo), so if there was uproar about the game getting an 8.9 i dont remember! But i did see this poll going in favor of MW2 a mile away.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:16:45 AM

It's hated so much because it's not an exclusive. Bottom line.

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SvenMD
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:41:57 AM

@ Audia - I'm pretty sure Assassin's Creed II is not a PS3 exclusive, and I'm pretty sure 90% of the people around here will say that it is simply amazing.

So it has nothing to do with being an exclusive. We simpy want devs to push themselves and make superior games.

As Jawknee said, MW2 just got a fresh coat of paint...but didn't do anything to push itself further. And after 2 years of working on a title you should be blown away.

AC II and Uncharted 2 were both AMAZING compared to the already amazing first titles.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 8:15:53 AM

So, by adding a huge Spec Ops co-op mode and adding a ton of new guns, maps, perks, challenges, etc., MW2 didn't push themselves?!?! COD4 was a game that was flat out incredible in every way. It's hard to improve on a near-perfect formula and I think they did for the most part.

As for KZ2, how else did the devs push themselves with that game? Yea, it looks great. Otherwise, what else really changed from the first one to the next?

And as for my previous comment, I stand by it. If there are two shooters, both decent, both respected in the community, one is exclusive and the other is multi, and we're on the exclusive's console fan site, it should be no surprise as to why the exclusive is preferred.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:21:30 AM

Audiak that's ridiculous. Batman AA, MW1, World at War, apparently AC2, etc are good multiplats. No one "hates" MW2, or discredits it simply because it was a multiplat. it just wasn't what it was made out to be. There are plently of other games that deserved the kind of praise MW2 recieved. It was.......overrated.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:47:36 AM

Jawkn, we're talking about two different things here. You are throwing out great titles that are multiplatformers. You're not throwing out a comparison like I am. Your examples are not comparing an exclusive game of the same genre to a multi-plat of the same genre. Mine is. That is why I'm saying that MW2 is losing on this fansite because we're on a PS3 exclusive site, comparing a multi and an exclusive game. If you take the two games and put them next to each other, which one comes out on top in your opinion?

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:39:27 AM

I understand what your saying. By your logic we should equally dislike the games I mentioned because they are multiplat. That was your original point. If KZ2 was multiplat and remained largely the same game regarless of it being multiplat. It would still be better.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:50:20 AM

My original point was to show you that the main reason why KZ2 is getting this much praise from this website is because it is an exclusive to the console of choice on this site. It's not necessarily better than MW2. It's almost like these people say they prefer it over MW2 to just be like everyone else on the site. (I said almost. Don't flame me.) It's just not a very deep game in any aspect. Bored throughout the entire campaign, hated the feel of my movements, and what is with the insane amount of loading!? Holy cow. That's a whole nother issue. It does have good graphics. I'll give you that.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 11:26:30 AM

"It's hated so much because it's not an exclusive. Bottom line."

once again. By your logic we should hate the other multiplats too.

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Juanalf
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:24:39 PM

@AudiaK

Not everyone has the same experiences with games(in case you think everyone does).I myself don't play much FPS cause like COD they all move and feel like robots.KZ2 has been the only game that didn't feel that way.I'm also sure if Guerrilla really wanted they could have easily copied and paste the movements and feel of COD (or the other games that play the same)but they instead went away from the sheep .

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:44:32 PM

@ HeXen - I can appreciate what you're saying but I for one feel quite the opposite. If anything, KZ2 was more robot like. In fact they even put you in a robot at a certain point. For me, Bad Company has the most realistic movements.

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Deleted User
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 10:09:45 AM

Jawkn, I am talking in this instance alone. I never said that ALL exlusives get their a** kissed more than ALL multiplats on this website. If I had, then you would be right. However, I was just referencing this particular case.

Hex, I never said that everyone experiences things exactly the way I do and if they don't, they're wrong. I just really disagree with the notion that KZ2 is in any way more realistic movement-wise than MW2. To put it bluntly, niether one is "really" that realistic; it's just that KZ2 is soooo sluggish that it takes away from the overall experience to me.

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BigBoss4ever
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:24:08 AM
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TO ME, IT IS BETWEEN THE LAST GUARDIAN AND GOW3, NOT FF13, I REPEAT, NOT FF13. FOR SOME REASON, THE PREVIOUS TWO SOUND MORE EXCITING TO ME.

DONT GET ME WRONG, FF13 IS STILL TOP NOTCH AND PROBABLY THE BEST JRPG THIS GEN WHEN IT COMES, BUT SOMEHOW, BECAUSE OF THIS OVER ADVERTISEMENT OR OVER EXPOSE OF THE CHARACTERS, I FEEL LESS EXCITING WHEN I SEE THE GAME. VERSUS 13 IS DEFINITELY COOLER IMO.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:27:58 AM

caps lock fail.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:28:31 AM

Stop yelling at me!

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NeoHumpty
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:45:15 AM

From the reviews I'm reading, this may be a very forgettable FF. Wow. I can't believe I just said that. Bring back Materia and world maps, Square. Please??

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Banky A
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:45:43 AM

That's the loudest opinion I've heard all week :O

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Scarecrow
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:50:35 AM

Heh,

So I guess I'm right, I wasn't the only one seeing right through FFXIII and how it fails compared to other FFs

We'll see, I'll still give it a chance

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:46:29 AM

Im not saying FFXIII will fail, cus i think it could be great. But i will agree with Scarecrow and say I dont think it will live up to the hype, nor to the others.

I will be optemistic and say i hope its excellent though.

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Qubex
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:30:30 AM

Damn, where are my pink earplugs :)

Q!

"i am home"

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:00:24 AM

The best part is that he went back and edited it.

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furbiesmustdie
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:41:55 AM

OMG BILLY MAYS IS BACK FROM THE GRAVE! What too soon?

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I_defenestrate
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:42:03 AM
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Heavy Rain will be my GotY and that's all that matters to me.

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Banky A
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:59:48 AM
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God of War III ! ! !
When do RPG's ever win? Oh and maybe Alan Wake or Halo Reach will win, hehe.

;)

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:11:32 AM
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Oh, my guess for GOTY 2010 will probably be God of War III. I'd like to see the Last Guaridian or Heavy Rain but they seem too artsy for the masses. Just fine for me though. Love me some artistic expression long with chicken ramon.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:56:20 AM
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Watch out Alienange, I made a MW2 post and Ben is booting me. lol. Im not sure why this site hates MW2 so damn bad. They bash it EVERY CHANCE they get.

End of Line.

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Qubex
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:33:03 AM

Well, its not that good... I feel KZ2 is better!

Q!

"i am home"

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:03:47 AM

Drithe, you know exactly why so many here don't like MW2. Do I have to enumerate them?
1. Activision
2. Multiplat
3. FPS
4. Short SP
5. Not an RPG
6. Xbot hype
7. Getting pwnd by 12 year olds

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:37:58 AM

1. Weak PC Port
2. No dedicated servers
3. Auto aim
4. Over the top, non engaging story
5. Multiplayer that anyone can be good at on day1
6. Little to no depth in gameplay, run and gun style.
7.Typical setting, no variety.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:40:55 AM

Alienage, owned by LimitedVertigo.

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to_far_apart
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 11:56:42 AM

Totally owned by LV lol

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:46:52 PM

pwnage to the max

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:11:19 PM

Are you guys done high-fiving each other? That guy's seven points apply to 95% of the games currently available on the PS3. If you all hate MW2 because of those seven points then you pretty much don't like any game.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:47:44 PM

Your logic is flawed. Evidently you agree with all my points and you point out there are other games like it. There being other average games not worthy of my dollars doesn't justify MW2's existence or scores or sales simply becuase it isn't the only one doing it.

Ya we're done with high fiving, you done sulking?

Enjoy the 95% average games on the market as you say, I'll continue to enjoy the 5% amazing games.

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:09:37 PM

Like what LV? Your precious L4D ?

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Arvis
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:22:20 PM

I don't understand this conflict. As far as I can tell, hardly anyone is saying MW2 is a "bad shooter." It's just "not special." If you like it, no one can say you're wrong for liking it. But that doesn't give you license to accuse the personal taste of people who DON'T like it. This is Internet Etiquette 101, people.

I used to attack people who bashed FFX-2, and it got me nowhere. Just accept it.

-Arvis

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:22:53 PM

The conflict is its a game and some will love it and some will hate it. The thing with MW2 is you either love it or hate it no in between.

Limited Vertigo made valid points unlike a lot of others around here. But speaking MP alone which isnt enough for people its a fine game. The problem with Limited Vertigo points is almost half only reflect to the PC. So anyone agreeing with him that played it on a PS3 or console in general is dilussional. First off being upset about the no dedicated servers, I get it if you own a PC. Second, the weak pc port reference is old. Everything is a weak pc port in your eyes LV, that doesn't justify this, as they are the same, trust me. And the auto-aim, well i understand that would be frustrating if you have a mouse. Not with joysticks its not an issue. And in all honesty you hardly recognize it unless someone just happens to run in front of your cross hairs. But when you aim your self there is literally no affect. I also must argue that SP is run and gun, but the MP is more strategic.

Also he (LV) pointed out that you can be good at the MP on day 1. Well with any game you want to be good at it so thats a selling point. But i must argue that there are people currently with a kill to death ratio that would make you puke its so sad. If your playing it on a pc like LV is its no doubt people will be good. FPS on pc are the only thing left for the PC to count on, as everything else is going to consoles as well. Sounds to me like LV is a lil' upset theres some stiff competition for him. ;) And lastly, i do agree the SP doesnt have much depth, but you can not say the MP doesnt. the MP has more depth that most other FPS MP games out there. And yes that includes KZ2. KZ2 had depth but no where near as much weapon customization, accomplishments or ranks as MW2 does and that's not even the icing on the cake. I love KZ2 and yes i think its better than MW2. But that leaves me with the question what are you trying to compare the depth to? An RPG? That wouldnt surprise me!

It's weird to me so many people just agree with anyone that has something bad to say about MW2.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:34:52 PM

@Alien

I like how you completely avoided any of the points I made which put a HUGE hole in your logic and decided to make a snide remark concerning L4D.

My 5%
UC2
Demon's Souls
Dragon Age
Infamous
Batman: Arkham Asylum
Risen
Cities XL
R&C

What is your 95%?

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SnipeySnake
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:42:26 PM

@Alienange
"7. Getting pwnd by 12 year olds"

Haha, you nailed it on that one. My brother is actually 12 and get gets 2nd or 1st in almost all his TDM's. Man...im ashamed to have that game in my house but its my brothers..

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:44:54 PM

@ bigrailer19

You're way off with what you just posted. Let me help show you where you're wrong.

1)More than half of my list also plagues the console version.

2)You writing that everything is a bad PCport in my eyes is way off base and inaccurate. I've never said all PCports are bad or implied it.

3)AutoAim is the developer telling you you're not good enough to play the game on your own. You bringing up joysticks does not justify it.

4)Of course everyone wants to be good at a game, seriously why do you always state the obvious as if it's some unknown thought to the vast majority? The point is a game (especially multiplayer) that allows anyone to pick up and be good at it right off the bat is completely not rewarding and lacks any depth that would justify mastering it.

5)Please explain to me how the MP in MW2 has more depth than other FPS. It has fewer maps, less guns, less gameplay, less strategy, and less variation than just about any FPS out there.

6)I'm comparing the depth to the hundreds of FPS I've played. Any game that becomes the play all game of the year for 12 year olds says it all.

They agree with me because I make good points and I back them with valid information.

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:04:47 PM

@ Limited Vertigo
Sorry but now your just arguing to argue.

1) half your list maybe plagues the console version in your opinion. As i said the didicated servers i can understand for you but no one with a PS3. Nor the auto-aim, nor the weak pc port. The run and gun is just how you play cus im strategic.

2) everything in your eyes is a bad pc port. You always make the claim "just buy it on the machine it was intended" pretty much nails that one down.

3) Auto-Aim is not an issue unless you yourself can't find out how to counter it which i could see with a mouse. Its there yes and yes it can be an annoyance but regardless, It's not an issue. Sorry somehow you are not good with auto-aim, and that makes the game a failure for you.

4) U missed my point here. I wasnt stating the obvious to make a point. But your right that is obvious and its a plus for MW2. But i will argue all day that yes it may be a pick up and play game. but its not a pick up and play and be good at on day one game, nor day 2. Trust me i already explained there are plenty of people online struggling.

5)The MP in MW2 has depth because you have tons of weapon customizations, tons of perks, and the perk tree, the killstreak rewards and the death streak rewards. It also has tons of ranks, and many prestiges (although i hate the prestige). And if your speaking literally and serious tons of guns doesnt make the game more in depth. Guns play a pivital role in carrying out missions, and Even if you have 100 guns in front of you chances are anyone who really knows guns will still pick the M-16, a G36 (which MW2 doesnt have) an M4, and so on. Your going to pick the gun that suits you and your style of play, so thats not an issue. And we should see a map pack sometime in the future so... And i already compared 2 games to eachother above.

6) So your saying because 12 year olds are beating you, you dont like it, or somehow that means it had less depth? you combined two different subjects in one point. So what if MW2 appeals to a large amount of plenty of different people? That somehow makes it bad?

They agree with you because yes you make good points, but they also agree with anything bad about MW2. Dont get too big of a head over that because i wasnt referring to you. That comment was in regards to MW2 genreally being spoken bad of.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:25:17 PM

1)So you agree with me and you're just continuing to rant and say "dedicated servers" as if it nullifies anything I previously said.

2)Correct I do say to get a game for its intended platform. That's why I bought L4D2 for PC, FFXIII for the PS3, and will be getting Bayonetta for the 360. (Like how I just destroyed your argument)

3) How could anyone not be good with auto aim? I didn't mention it to imply it makes a game harder. It CLEARLY makes it easier. Christ, seriously how do you take such an obvious point on my part and twist it to mean the game is too hard because the developer is holding my hand throughout the game.

4) Anyone you know that is struggling with the game I'm sure is unable to drive a car, brush their teeth, and wipe their ass.

5) A map pack, w00h00! Have fun paying for extra content that should have been included from day one. Also a kill streak? That's neat...it's the Tony Hawk of FPS.

6) I never said 12 year olds were beating me, there you go putting words in my mouth again. You have a really bad habit of doing that, I suggest you read over everything I write twice since you're showing you're unable to take it all in on the first read.

Actually I was dead on with why they agree with me. Since you disagree of course you're going to throw out that they are mindless followers only agreeing with me because I'm anti MW2.

If you're going to reply again I suggest doing your homework. This is getting old.

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:46:48 PM

My homeworks done and on time man.

1) I agree that you have valid points in some cases not this time. I'm not going to preove my points on that subject cus yours are purely opinion and DON'T ALL affect a console. I stated that above AGAIN!

2) I quoted you because when you say its intended machine you ussually speak of the PC, and you yourself can not argue that. You always pick apart FPS on console and really its ilegitamate. You and Ben have been in several erguments about the PC and console debate many times as have yo an I and you're always pro PC. Just cus your good with a mouse doesnt mean other people are or prefer it. As ive said i have a friend whos been PC since he was born and now plays all his games on a PS3. Some people enjoy it more. (See how i used your word to destroy you, gosh lol.) i say that and laugh cus you didnt destroy me you basically just changed your words. Get off it!

3) Because is it really logical to say somethings bad when it helps you out? i can only assume it makes your horrible and harder for you.

4) I dont know anyone struggling, its the people that play all day and i recognize there stats. Just cus your good and the vast majority of the PC commubnity is good doesnt mean EVERYONE is somehow able to get this game and immediately start tearing it up.

5)Its funny cus i seen that map pack remark coming. Regardless There is a shortage of maps but that still doesnt involve the depth of gameplay. And i see you have no remark about the guns wonder why!?

6) I dont put words in your mouth. again you didnt even explain yourself. At this point your not even making points you just keep repeating yourself to everything i have said.

I could care less if you like MW2 or not but your points are only valid to you and your opinions. I dont think people agreed with you 100% on everything you said because you played it on pc, if they did they would be dillussional based on the arguments i've given.
We can go at this all day but at the end your points are only valid as opinions as are mine. If you reply to this i suggest you come up with something that defies what my arguments are rather than just bashing my intelligence. Your clearly not arguing about MW2 any more just about what im saying.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:01:48 PM

1)There you go again talking in circles. You agree but disagree and disagree about the agreeing. We get it, you're confused.

2)Please point out when I've said PC is better when it comes to a particular game. If you're going to accuse than you better be willing to supply some form of evidence. Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass and your credibility is shot.

3) Yes it is VERY logical to find fault with a game mechanic that doesn't offer me complete control but rather baby steps for the simplest thing like aiming a gun. How about this, in Super Mario Brothers instead of pressing a/b to jump the developer makes you jump when you approach a box. It's the same thing. The whole point of videogames is allowing the gamer to GAME.

4) Everyone I know that plays it along with all that I've read (which is a lot) is evidence to what I'm saying. Nothing you say is backed up by anything other than the select few you evidently think aren't good at the game. It's common knowledge that MW2 is a pick up and play MP experience.

5) The maps are small and offer nothing but run and gun. You think that's depth? I didn't comment on your gun comments because you wrote a paragraph, excuse me for only taking a few points as the whole. In regards to the guns now there is nothing new to MW2 that hasn’t been done before. The guns sound similar, shoot similar, and are just variations of the same thing. You're easily fooled.

6) If all you're going to do is throw out BS comments and claim I say them than I will continue to say the same thing which is "You're wrong and it's obvious".

That's bullshit. Saying an opinion is only valid to the one that has them. That's the equivalent of saying a review is just an opinion. There are facts and well known established information that a person can base their opinions around. This is what I do. I offer an opinion and make it valid with information that backs it up. You on the other hand talk out your ass and accuse me of saying certain things but offer ZERO evidence to support it.

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:20:52 PM

1) haha i think your confused. I'm saying i agree with you on other subjects. This one i do not at all. Again half your complaints are more PC related rather than console, tell me why i should want dediacted servers and maybe ill agree. Remember i own a PS3 not a PC. Just keep that in mind.

2) I can supply evidence. and i can supply the arguments you have been in with Ben about you preferring the PC. It will take time as I'd have to search PSXE to retrieve them.

3) Bottom line auto aim is there to help. If for some reason your hindered by it then i blame it on your mouse as i can see that happening. Its very easy to correct rather than over correct. I liek your point on allowing the gamer to play though. but in all honesty if auto aim affects you that much i cant say we're playing the same game.

4) Hey im providing you with evidence that Not everyone can play this game. Rather than taking some ones word im experiencing this myself. This point is subjective so lets just drop it. If theres to much competition for you then your obviously not a good sport about it. Any competition is healthy competition, i say bring em on. not bash the game cus of it!

5) I have said the maps are small and confined which more than half are. But that results in less run and gun as there is more cover. MW2 is strategic, it just depends on how you play. Maybe the PC community would rather run and gun but i know myself and friends are not all about that. As far as the guns go again you have 6 classes and your always going to choose the gun best suited for you. There are enough weapons and more than plenty of upgrades and accomplishments for each, to keep it fresh. I dont know you must be spoiled.

6) I dont understand how somehow your opinions are Valid and mine are not. Your arrogance keeps getting the best of you, and you just keep repeating yourself. I never said your wrong and your opinions dont matter, i just said i disagree with you.

And as a reviewer you express your feelings on a game, and what that game offers, and your take on it. As a reviewer people will agree and disagree with you as we are doing right now, so what was your point in there? I backed all my answers up with supportive information, you must have failed to read that since your opinions only matter!

Im gonna end it right here though, because its nor going anywheer. Listen i repsect you and what you have to say. I would never tell anyone what they say is absolute BS because you have opinions. I would expect the same in return but i know i wont get that from everyone. Im sorry you feel that way about MW2, and im sorry you cant enjoy it like i can. But i do know for certain there are many other games we both like and enjoy and maybe rather than argue we'll have a much more agreeable conversation when FF13 or GOW 3 comes out.

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Juanalf
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:11:00 PM

You guys sure like to write.How about we just say that the game is great and it sucks at the same time!?

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:11:04 PM

Everything I've been saying in regards to MW2 is in regards to any version available for purchase. I suggest you stop responding to my postings since you have a habit of getting confused EVERY SINGLE TIME you respond. Seriously, just look at something I post and ignore it completely. I'm tired of correcting you and explaining things that should be crystal clear to anyone with a grasp of the English language.

Stop breaking the MW2 debate into a console vs. pc argument. There is none here nor has there been one. This is my last reply to you on this matter since clearly you're intent on responding with long paragraphs that go nowhere and just go in circles.

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Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:26:37 AM
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OK. Here is a PEACE OFFERING.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53tq9g35kwk

Hugs?

End of Line.

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SvenMD
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:37:32 PM

Peace offering not accepted.

That was miserable.

I hate that I am ALWAYS intrigued by random you tube links...

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Jawknee
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:22:18 PM

Fail.

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SnipeySnake
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:46:00 PM

Im not watching it.

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LimitedVertigo
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:12:12 PM

I'm sure it's his left and right hand taking turns.

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Snaaaake
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:32:18 AM
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I think it's a bit too early to guess 2010 GOTY.

I don't even know any big titles coming out after June beside COD.

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Fane1024
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 5:20:00 PM

...and three or four "Hero" games.

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IronFace2
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:37:30 AM
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I think GOTY 2010 will definetly be Gran Turismo 5
theres no doubt.
Oh and MW2 is a great game not overrated at all.

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blitz30952
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:57:00 AM
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lol, did a double take when I saw 'this year' and '2010'... :P

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www
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:59:49 AM
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After finding it difficult to find games after these updates in MW2, its starting to annoy me now, I've quit playing and so has the rest of the Rangers,Militia,Op-For soldiers in the forums like Mackid1993,LowKey,DarthKoth to name a few and we all going down the leaderboards. Now I've gone back to the most smooth and lag-free online game possible FIFA 10, MW2 is on vacation. I woulda loved Tekken 6 online if it was perfect but it still has some issues, still its the best fighting game this gen.

I don't know about 2010's GOTY but am guessing Heavy Rain, since some critics who have seen the game in action are making a whole lot of noise as to how its a great game and definitely a GOTY contender. To me its either Heavy Rain or FFXIII or GT5, I dunno....

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kevyd09
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:55:04 PM

does darthkoth come on to the comments? whats his name? lol prob darthkoth an ill look like an idiot lol

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Godslim
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:48:05 AM
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tbh we all knew all the anti cod guys on here would make it mw2 i still think its killzone 2 yeh thumbs me down but it singplayer was dissapointing not going deep enough with the characters and i got bored of mp really quick though that might be because i was in both betas

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www
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:48:32 AM

well said godslim!

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Arvis
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 9:12:38 AM

Couldn't those same criticisms be applied to MW2, though?

And let's be jonest, which game got more hype??

-Arvis

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geovanwitdakick
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:57:55 AM
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I seriously doubt the award of game of the year would be given to a racing game. Ignorant critics would bring things up about how there's no "depth", & how every race is the same.

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JackC8
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 7:19:48 AM
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I'd like to think that we can't know what the game of the year for 2010 will be yet, otherwise it will be a rather dull year.

As far as multiplayer only games, as soon as a sequel comes out MW2 will be worthless as the online will be abandoned by everyone. And glitches will be allowed to pile up and be exploited, because Activision will want to force everyone into buying the next installment.

When you look at great games of the past, it's nice to be able to play them. Of course, that option won't exist with stuff like MW2. A few years from now people will see this title got a game of the year award, pick it up and be utterly disappointed.

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tridon
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 8:55:32 AM
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I voted for "Modern Warfare 2" as most over-rated of 2009, so I'm happy with this result. I loved the first game, but the sequel was not nearly as good and a huge disappointment. All I hear about is how much cash Activision and Infinity Ward put into MW2, and all that does is leave me with the question, "where?" I know they marketed the game through the wazoo, but that's the only place I can think of where their budget went to. It clearly didn't go into improving the graphics or gameplay engines.

As for the new poll, I know everyone will vote for "God of War III", but my personal pick for GOTY 2010 is "The Last Guardian". "ICO" and "Shadow of the Colossus" are two of my favorite games of all time, and I can't wait to play as that little boy with the pet cat/bird/lizard-thingy. =D

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Deleted User
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:57:51 AM

Tridon, "not nearly as good and a huge disappointment" is a phrase that contradicts itself. If a 9 is "not nearly as good as" 10, it cannot be a "huge disappointment". Also, everyone forgets that it costs a lot more to make a multi than it does an exclusive. As for the graphics, they are improved. Go play the two games side by side. And finally, the game engine? What do they need to improve on?

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Turbey
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:02:41 AM
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MW2 isn`t as good its orginal, but it`s still a fun game, and not bad. Haven`t played it so much lately, AC2 and Demons Soul are keeping me busy...but I still try too make some time for it`s online.

I voted that MW2 was the most overrated yes, and I think that games like U2, K2 etc deseveres alot more attention then MW2. But what can we do?

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Godslim
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:19:34 AM

yeh i think cod4 is better easily just because of it being simple and the maps are way better mw2 is good but nuthing on cod4

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D1g1tal5torm
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 9:36:47 AM
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It's not really a surprise...

COD4 I played solidly for well over a year.
COD6 sporadically, for about a month.

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furbiesmustdie
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 10:36:39 AM
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Meh I got bored with MW2 in less than a week then I was straight back to Uncharted 2 and Saints Row 2. How did it ever win GOTY on just about every game site? Let us say nothing more about it other than it was A HUGE TURD.

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St_Jimmy
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:04:32 PM

mw2 won goty awards from lots of people? i only saw it win 2 (gametrailers and some other one) or are you talking about uncharted 2? cuz that game deserves it!

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maxpontiac
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 11:05:44 AM
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I guess I am on an island on this one, but I love MW2.

As I said prior, I only play Hardcore TDM, and I enjoy shooting all the targets who believe that they are playing some run and gun HALO type game.

Hardcore TDM in MW2, in my opinion awards those who play strategic.

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BeezleDrop
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 11:07:35 AM
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I could swear I had so much for fun in the Battlefield Bad Company2 Beta then any time I had with MW2. I just cannot accept what IW has created, its smooth but the MP tests my patience. When I put 6 bullets in a guys chest then he stabs me from 4 feet away thats just too ridiculous to accept. I even enjoyed Nazi Zombies more then MW2, its just plain rubbish.

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kevyd09
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:01:02 PM

its all to do with lag!!!
i have shot at the player who killed me and the killcam shows me still lookin the other way!!! where are the servers situated does any1 know?

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JPBooch
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:12:32 PM
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Hypocritical? not here. Most of the people on the comments section of this site agreed with your assessment of the game. Not great, just good.

So then, why would it be the most over-rated if you didn't rate it high? Because the rest of the gaming community rated it consistently higher? Of course.

Funny thing is that MW2 continues to be the most played game on my friends list. And, on top of that, hundreds of thousands of people play it at any given time during the day.

But I guess the rest of the gaming community doesn't know what they are doing. They all must be mindless puppets to the game developers clinging to the next fad.

Over-rated? not by this site, lol.

Out of curiosity, I would like to know what game came in second. To me, that's your real winner. Matter of fact, you should of did the poll like the best exclusive game this year. Besides MW2, .....

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Hezzron
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 11:04:02 PM

I'm reading you loud and clear.

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JPBooch
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:18:56 PM
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Btw, I'm taking GT5 for GOTY 10.

Anything with that many delays and a developer who is OCD on perfection has got to win.

Question is wether it gets released this year, lol.

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Mightynemesis
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 12:38:38 PM
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MGO KZ2 >>>> MW2 online= MW1

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Who_KilledMe
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:23:12 PM
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I'm sorry but I am going to have to disagree on this whole article. Ben, I usually agree with your opinions, but I think you were mistaken in not including mw2 in the game of the year nominations. Do I think it was game of the year? Of course not, nothing compared to uncharted 2, but it was definitely better than street fighter 4

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those die hard call of duty multiplayer fanatics, I am actually in agreement with your other articles where you say single player is more important than multi-player. MW2 is actually the first call of duty I have played all the way through.

I was expecting to be disappointed, but I must say, it was the most pleasant surprise I had this year with a game. I guess I am one of the few that thought it had an awesome single player campaign. I would never buy a game unless I heard at least some feedback on a good single player as I hate multiplayer.

That's why I was going to pass on this game because of what I had heard. But then my brother visited for the holidays and I played through his copy, and I must say, if anything this title is underrated on this site.

Like I said, I do not think it deserved game of the year, but it definitely should have been a contender.

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Scarecrow
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:51:55 PM

How was it better than SFIV?

SFIV's depth, rapes MW2's auto aim

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 1:56:24 PM

I agree with Who_killedme. The single player was short but its good.

And MW2 MP depth is far greater than any depth SFIV has. If thats the only argument to why you think SFIV is better, you obviously havn't played MW2.

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Alienange
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:40:54 PM

Come on Scarecrow, I have nothing against SFIV, but your statement doesn't make sense. Earlier you called MW2 garbage and now say SFIV has more depth than MW2's auto aim? You are blinded by your hate.

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Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 2:59:42 PM
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SF4 was a good game. But the Virtua Fighter series better. :)

Good to see peeps calling on all the MW2 hate. lol

End of Line.

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Scarecrow
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:38:11 PM

While Virtua Fighter is good, love that series.
It can't be compared to SF

2D fighting cannot be compared to 3D fighting
But if you're looking to compare which fighter is king? I suggest you go look at Virtua Fighter 5's reviews compared to Street Fighter IV. The answer's right in your face.

By the way, SFIV scored way higher than MW2 on psxe and p;obably many other sites as well.

I can back up my statements. You can't

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ebterp
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 3:02:18 PM
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MW2 is just a updated version of COD4 nothing more. The reason MW2 is a good game is because COD4 was such a good game. If they would have releases 10 new maps for COD4 than everyone would still be playing it and having a grand time. I almost consider MW2 and update not a "new" game if you know what I mean!

EB

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Darwin1967
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:44:32 PM

Actually, when it comes down to it...COD4 is probably turning out to be the better game. MP is a rapidly turning into a joke what with people hacking the PS3 and the new/improved JOIN feature which allows people to boost for Nukes and AC130s the MP is quickly becoming un-playable. I'll gladly go back to W@W or COD4...MW2 is IMHO quickly becoming an epic FAIL.

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Imagi
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 4:39:20 PM
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Modern Warfare 2, like 1, but now 2 and a bit better. Amazing, lets shower it with sh.... Awards.

It deserves to be recognised as a great game, but it was blown out of proportion when you consider it is a sequel and had a very good foundation to build on. I feel other games were far more deserving.



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tlpn99
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 5:15:47 PM
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Dont forget MW2 got a lot of hype because of the airport level. There was outcry but you didn't have to shoot anyone till the guards were there. Also you didnt have to shoot any civilians either you could just walk to the guards, you could even skip the level if you chose. Even on the level it was held back some I felt as you couldn't really run ahead of the guys you were with and go mad so even if you did shoot the civilians it wasn't like tons.
I think i'll play through it again without the bit there I may even skip the level altogether and see how it feels playing it that way.

I chose not to skip the level. Not all my friends who have played it chose not to skip.

Infamous how did that fare ? I love Infamous and feel it didn't hardly get a mention. I have tried to pass on how good a game it is to friends but they don't appear to be interested.

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SnipeySnake
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 6:01:57 PM
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I'm gonna have to think hard on this one. Since "What has the best chance of winning Game of the Year 2010?"

and

"What game do you want to win Game of the Year 2010?"

Are completely different questions...I'm gonna have to go with FFXIII.

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Juanalf
Monday, January 04, 2010 @ 11:06:39 PM
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This thread is pathetic.The MW2 supporters are on cod's meat and the cod haters are on the cod supporters meat.Got myself hungry so I'll probably have some meat too :)

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:00:47 AM

You asking me out?

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Juanalf
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:49:43 AM

Nah... I don't fight in that side of the fence but you could try your luck with Drithe :-)~

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Oyashiro
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:09:30 AM
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Didn't Joystiq award Uncharted 2 GotY? I'm pretty sure they did.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:33:03 AM

YES.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:36:56 AM

Sadly, yes.

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Juanalf
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:50:52 AM

Sadly??

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Oyashiro
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:00:08 AM

Yeah I just checked, Joystiq gave Uncharted 2 there GotY. You might want to change that in the article.

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Richy
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 3:53:14 AM
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hello ...

i still don't have MW2 yet, it will be on a redemption not my money. I think it's a a good game, with great MP, i don't have a good connexion for this so i prefer SP games. I think ot's overrated because for me to meet GOTY standard a game must have less bug & more appreciation, UC2 deserved it, yet we have a lot of runner up, mostly on PS3 side.

as for 2010 - I'm sure i'll own God of War III, Heavy Rain, The Last Guardian & maybe also GT5. I'm not into FFX genre & on Multi i'm going for Dante's Inferno, Darksiders, if Castlevania is out & will see if some announcements are made on sequels or new IPs.

it will be difficult to know what will be GOTY, PS3 will own 2010 ;) ...

my personnal pref would still go for The Last Guardian with God of War III as runner up, i just wish they release a Team ICO collection soon.

cheers!

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calculator
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 7:44:27 PM
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I waisted 80$ on a game I thought would be excellent.
I was hugely disappointed with MW2.
Once I get my platinum trophy, this game will be out of my collection.
BTW, is anyone here good at Spec Ops? I need help with two more missions (Snatch n grab, Wetwork) to get all 69 stars in Spec Ops. My PSN ID is calculator, if anyone is willing to help.
PS. I love PSXE.

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GuernicaReborn
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 11:59:38 AM
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IMO, Most Overrated = Most Popular

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