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Cheaper Software In The Future?

Considering that certain old-school cartridges from two decades ago cost the same as games today (despite the massive advancements in the industry and inflation), many will complain about the $60 price tag for new video games.

But might that soon change? According to Game Informer, EA Canada senior producer Jason DeLong believes that lower prices for new software looms somewhere on the horizon. It may not be this year but nevertheless, the lower price tags may still be inevitable. Said DeLong:

"I think that we’re going to start to see – maybe not in the next year, but in the near future – games go down the route of smaller up-front experiences and lower prices at the beginning, and then the ability to extend the game through episodic material or future feature material. I think that’s a direction we’re probably heading in."

Ah, so there's a catch! Is he only talking about smaller titles followed up by episodic content that requires an additional charge? Well, not really, because he expands on the idea by clearly referring to regular, big-budget titles:

"Games are getting more expensive, and times are tough, and it’s getting harder to purchase every game you want. So, how can we keep people playing and offer them more but not have to make them break the bank to do it? It’s going to be an interesting creative problem for us to solve."

It's an ongoing debate in the gaming world: "how much should new games cost?" There are those who believe they're too expensive while others (usually older gamers) look back to a time when they cost the exact same amount...and we certainly didn't get the product we get today. But at the same time, $60 is tough to spend on a frequent basis for your hobby, regardless of how you see it.

1/5/2010 12:26:32 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (81 posts)

I C E_COLD
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:43:32 PM
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Yeah I'm still waiting for Blu-Ray to go down and I do see it going down soon.

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fluffer nutter
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:47:20 PM

What's your price point? I regularly get blu-ray films for $15 or less.

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556pineapple
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:52:07 PM

I've noticed certain new releases are starting off at $20 now. I won't buy a blu-ray anymore if it's over $20, unless it's something I really want.

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:53:01 PM

About $20 or less for new release Blue Rays on Amazon.

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BTNwarrior
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 7:07:35 PM

just never go to best buy, they were asking $40 for inglorious basterds. Bluray prices there are a joke

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rogers71
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 10:02:05 PM

I hope we don't start seeing developers making a full game then deciding to take parts of the game out so they can charge us for those parts later....oh wait!!!


Anyway,
I would be willing to bet we will see shorter games for cheaper prices and alot more DLC for those games. I don't know about you guys, but that will suck.

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neighber
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:49:23 PM
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its not that hard for me, usually buy 2-4 games a month i just bought bayonetta this morning. hopefully its worth the hype. but i all ways like a price drop on anything

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SnipeySnake
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 6:41:24 PM

Can you give me a score out of 10 when you finish it?

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Jawknee
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:54:20 PM
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I never minded paying $40 to $50 for PS1 and PS2 games. $60 for PS3 I assumed was due to Blue Ray. Never understood why Xbox games cost the same.

Ripoff!!

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phudge_supreemz
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:08:28 PM

sega genesis games used to be like $90 CDN

edit: my point being that we're not being as ripped off as we once were

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556pineapple
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:54:28 PM
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there's about 5 games out or coming out soon that I want, and I'll be lucky to get even one of them. Once I'm out of school and (hopefully) working, the price tag shouldn't be a problem for me though. Wouldn't hurt to see it go down, but I'm not sure I like the idea of smaller, shorter games with episodic content added later. I don't know, I guess we'll see.

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I C E_COLD
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 12:55:49 PM
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Dam that's cheap I get them new 30$ (@ store), amazon is were I pre order for like 15-25$.

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NoSmokingBandit
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:11:22 PM
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I dont like this idea. I like buying a complete game. I dont want to buy what is essentially a demo then unlock the rest of the game with DLC.

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phudge_supreemz
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:14:14 PM

i agree. and what changes/compromises would the developer have to make in order for the initial purchase to feel like a whole game by itself?

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Hezzron
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:18:45 PM

I agree. It kinda sounds like developers and publishers are really keen on figuring out how to ram DLC down our throat.

The whole broken-up game concept just sounds sloppy to me.

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:19:42 PM

Yeah i have a problem with dlc in the grand scheme of things. The game should be released as intended. I read an article here that AC2 will release dlc soon and that dlc was originally in the game. Regardless the reason iif that was the plan we shouldnt have to pay for it now.

There have been plenty of controversial dlc releases (RE5, cough, cough*), as of late and it bugs me that im starting to feel like all my games are incomplete unless i buy the dlc. I really hated that Fallout 3 had 5 dlc packs come, and i had to wait even longer cus i own a PS3. Luckily i am fond of amazon and found the game of the year edition for $30 on Christmas day. I sold my original Fallout 3 copy for $15 bux so i got a good deal.

More and more though dlc seems like its a force buy if you want more from your game, which maybe in some cases should already be there.

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NoSmokingBandit
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 3:49:05 PM

It would be impossible for a developer to make a great story and sell it in parts. The whole thing would have to end in the first chapter or you would be forced to buy the DLC to finish the story. Smart developers will keep one game on one disc instead of breaking it apart.

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Beamboom
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 4:28:53 PM

I so totally agree, this whole expansion thing has gone too far imo. Fair enough to come with a "real" expansion after a few months, but many of them got the expansions for their game ready almost at release date - it's just too obvious that it *could* have been included in the original release but chopped out just to squeeze a little extra cash out of us. As if the games were not expensive enough as it is.

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gumbi
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:21:03 PM
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I certainly can't always afford it, but I'm okay with the avg price tag on new games being in the $50 - $60 range. It's always been that way, for as long as I've been playing video games. And you can bet that $60 was a lot tougher for me to come by 15 years ago than it is now. ahh, the good ol paper route days.

Besides, it takes me several months to get through the average game these days (I finally just finished Valkyria Chronicles!). So $60 once every 3-4 months is acceptable to me.

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WolfCrimson
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 3:19:25 PM

Congrats on finishing Valkyria Chronicles, that game is my personal favorite.

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gumbi
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 3:59:50 PM

For sure Crimson. It's one of the best games I've played in a long time. Can't wait for the next one...

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fuk u
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:29:43 PM
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50 bucks should be the price tag on new PS3 games in my opinion. And as of recent i dont think ive purchased a new game with out trading in an old one in order to get it at 30-40 bucks... oh and on blu-rays you can get them for 11 dollars amonth on Netflix ive gone threw 12 movies in a month thats 200 bucks + if you buy 12 blu-rays a month...Netflix is the shit!

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fuk u
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:32:46 PM
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wow 7 months to finish a game, man the longest game ive ever been on is 3 weeks and that was DAO most games i Plow threw in weeks, guess i play too much lol.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:35:21 PM
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Sounds like they want to go the way of taking chapters out, only to make you pay extra later for each DLC they took out!!!!
Like AC2 did.

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Minishmaru
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:42:08 PM
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I have a hard time buying games but this helps me from impulse shopping and I remember in the past I've done some horrible purchasing on horrible games. I am just a bit more picky about the games I purchase and not every game has to be picked up on day one(Example Bayonetta, Darksiders,and Divinity 2 are games that I want...but thinking about it Bayonetta and Darksiders are probably only worth playing through once..obvious choice is to pick Divinity 2 and rent the other 2 or wait til they drop in price cuz they definitly will and probably pretty fast! FF13 is finally coming out and as much talk about it there is...I think i'd much rather pick up GoW3 to finish the awesome story that month). I think game prices are fine the way they are...just don't go higher kay? ;-P

Blu rays are about the same as most dvds now...thats if you buy them new release day cuz they are on sale for atleast $10-20 off, I only buy movies I loved seeing in theatres on bluray anyway. It's not like i'm buying Dragon Ball on blu ray...I totally streamed that steaming pile on my computer

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Blaiyan
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 3:00:57 PM

I thumbed up only because you didn't buy DragonBall.

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xnonsuchx
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:52:11 PM
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I think $50-60 is OK, depending on the length and replayability of the title (and if it has free online playability). Something that only lasted 2-3 hours and had no benefit of playing again would seem like a rip-off. I think part of the problem are all the expensive-to-produce, mediocre-at-best games the big publishers lose a lot of money on. Maybe if they could weed out turkeys of titles before they invest too heavily in them, they might be able to sell better titles for a little less.

My gaming needs are pretty basic, though...I think I still play GALAGA more often than any other game and that's almost 30 years old (1981). One thing that's good about PSN (as well as other consoles' online features) is that they have the ability to easily sell smaller, far less expensive titles to balance against the more epic retail ones. Not all games have to be super-realistic 3D, but it seems like those are the only ones ever considered "next gen"...a phrase I find overused and unnecessary. I only care if something is fun to play over any other aspect.

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jaybiv
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:54:02 PM
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Another case of the Nickel and Diming of America.

Considering today's games essentially cost the same as they did 20 years ago, I see no problem with prices. We are definitely getting a bargain nowadays.

I certainly do not like this idea floated by EA. It smells of a money grab, and yet why am I surprised EA is behind this "new model"???

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tridon
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:56:10 PM
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The only time I have REALLY have a problem with spending $60 on a game is when there's a ton coming out at once. For example, I hated last October/November and now I'm dreading March/April. Last Fall was really rough, though, since I was in the middle of Christmas shopping, too.

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SvenMD
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 1:58:56 PM
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This also seems like a way to "ease" into digital media distribution.

If you buy the first part of the game for cheap and then have to download the rest for some price, then eventually it seems like they could try to just do away with the original physical media and then we would all have been bamboozled right into digital distribution.

My point is - I don't like this idea. I want to buy a game....a complete game....ONCE.

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BikerSaint
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:19:30 AM

Some of these shadier developer/publishers have suddenly realized that they can now turn chopped up game downloads into.....
a gigantic dildo you never saw cumming.

Don't you get caught with your pants down!!!!!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:04:17 PM
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Well, I sure as crap am not going to spend a little money on the opener, then more to keep going, and more do beat it. That's BS. AND it's a scam, if you bought Siren in its episodic form it cost more than waiting for the full thing on disc. It's just a scam, and I won't be clogging my hard drive up with it. Gimme a full game you ninnys!

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 4:14:29 PM

Siren sure was fun...

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Naztycuts
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:05:01 PM
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It is initially cheaper but how much episodic content are we talking about here? Will the game be $40 initially then each additional installment sell for the remainder of the original $60? There will probably be no limit. So Theoretically FF XV could be $40 initially and then additional episodes could sell for as much as $30 apiece? Wow! I love the Digital Age! Looks like they are going to find a way to make us succumb to this Beast that is Digital Distribution after all. Remember kids if you can't touch it you DON'T own it.

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fuk u
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:06:15 PM
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yea buy a complete game, and if there is DLC make it expand the game further not slash it out then give it back.

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Phoelix
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:08:45 PM
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Yeah $60 is brutal. It's reasonable, though.

I do enjoy how a $60 game a year ago is only $20 now. That's a major plus. Good job, EA (Dead Space) and SEGA (Valkyria Chronicles).

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:13:55 PM

i just picked up DMC 4, for $12. so yeah good point on that!

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Karosso
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 6:43:26 PM

Just picked up Mirror's Edge for 19 dollars and Oblivion as well :)
Someone called the shop while I was there asking for PS3s and they did not have any in stock... Hope the momentum keeps going!

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Fane1024
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 7:04:40 PM

I wish I could find Valkyria for $20.

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bigrailer19
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:13:17 PM
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I dont mind paying $60. I understand its tough at times though. but it would have to be a drastic drop in price to make a difference.

Even if software dropped to $50, what would i do with that extra $10? There is a few things i could do i guess, but its not like saving that axtra $10 will help me with my bills. I guess throw it in savings and use it towards the next game. Or just buy 3.5 gallons of gas.

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fuk u
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:15:47 PM
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well 49.99 is more intriguing then 59.99 right?

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Cavan
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:27:36 PM
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as long as supermarkets in the uk keep undercutting the gaming stores then am happy, i paid 26 pound for MW2, which is about 40 dolla's so thats not bad.

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Cpt_Geez
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:47:06 PM
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Yeah I have the wii, 360, ps3, psp, and a ds and I don't have any problem buying games at the current price. I just picked up bayonetta for the 360 today. Sega ruined the ps3 version so I had to go with the xbox version. It would be nice if they lower the price on software tho.

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big6
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:54:26 PM
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I think Jason DeLong's suggestion of this new model of pricing is somewhat fair.
It's fair in that, sometimes you buy a game and realize you don't really like it, and neither does anyone else, then finding it hard to sell it for a decent price afterwards.

With this new model, you can pay less upfront for *most* of the game, then buy more levels/chapters if you feel you want to play more.

The catch, I think, is *how much* the initial purchase should be. The suggestion of $50 is too high, in my opinion. It should be more like $40.

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ebterp
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 3:12:02 PM

I do think that less upfront could be a benefit for picking up games you might not usually pick up. Keeps the investment lower unless you really like the game and then you can shell out for the additional content. Would also be interesting to see how that would impact game rental companies.

EB

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bridgera
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 2:54:31 PM
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20 years ago I paid $60 for a new NES game when it was released.

Now I personally wait 1-2 years before buying a new game (when it falls in price from $60 to $20), or I wait until there's a sale, such as Amazon's buy $80 get $40 towards a future purchase. (Got Little Big Planet, Dynasty Warriors 6 Empires, GTA IV, and later Ultimate Alliance 2 for a total of $116, or under $30/game).

After seeing the level of detail and the amount of content of GTA IV, I must confess, I feel I ripped off the programmers. The amount of detail in that game is insane, and I don't notice any loading times just driving through Liberty City normally. I certainly didn't get that detail for my $60 20 years ago.

I really think for what we're getting now, newly released games should just stay at $60, and then they should fall in price over time as the developers recoup the costs of programming.

In other words, I don't want anything to change, if you can't afford it, wait for it to fall in price then buy it. You don't need EVERY new game you want at release.

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Blaiyan
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 3:17:42 PM

I agree. I usually push the $40 for new games and I have noticed that publishers who realize that they have a low budget game will price it at $40 off the bat. Anyway you're right about the waiting thing. I do the same. Now I just say, let the people who want it for $60 buy it at $60. I'll wait to get it at $20-$40 depending on the game. With me making the rare full price purchase.

I don't necessarily feel like I ripped the developer off when i get a game that I ended up really liking on sale but I do get a thought like , I wish I paid full price for this, or that it was actually worth full price but it happens the other way around too so it sort of balances itself out.

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Nynja
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 3:27:33 PM
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$60 in the 80s netted around 120 McDonald hamburgers (avg of $0.50 each).

$60 today nets around 67 (at $0.89 each) McDonald hamburgers

Based on inflation, I believe video game prices are reasonable when compared to the cost from 30 years ago. Omg... I'm old.

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SvenMD
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 3:49:28 PM

I like that - using the 'ol McDonalds Hamburger inflation model.

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 8:18:32 PM

@Nynja,
You can't be that old,

Hell, I remember the giant Chef Burger fast food chains(reversed Burger Chef name in different locales)selling burgers for 12 cents.

And I loved those hot, greasy, 15 cent taco's at the old Jack In The Box franchises.

10 cent for 1 & 1/2 LB loaf of bread

27 cent gas stations, with free front & back windshield glass cleaning.
(and they even gave out free full sized bath towels, dinnerware, glassware, silverware, or 5 LB box's of laundry detergent with every fill-up).

Hell, I better stop now..... I'm starting to feel old enough to be an antique on display, nestled right there between the Brontosaurus & the Tyrannosaurus Rex at one of the Smithsonian Museums.

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goodgamer
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 4:15:00 PM
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i still play counter strike source daily and for 19.99,fact is css replace all fps for me. been playing that for 5+years

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 4:17:16 PM

Glad to hear it, I've been playing CS since 1999 and CSS since 2004. What's great is both cost me ZERO dollars. I mostly make my rounds on Breakfloor and Crackhouse maps. :)

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 4:15:31 PM
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Release the same content online for $10 cheaper and I'm sold on just about anything.

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tes37
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 4:27:55 PM
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I would rather pay the $60 for a complete game. This seems like a scheme to get more money from you in the long run. They should just leave the price alone and make sure we get our money's worth.

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Highlander
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 5:17:10 PM
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So, "cheaper" games that are actually not really full games and then we pay through the nose for expansion packs that deliver the actual game content?

Let's imagine an EA version of Uncharted 2.

For $40 you'd get the first 10 chapters as well as the multi-player engine. Then it'd be $2 per chapter from then on. You'd end up paying$72 for the game, and that's assuming they only charge $2 per chapter.

So, far from being cheaper, the game could end up more expensive. Rather like an Xbox360 looks cheaper until you add all the extra's needed to make it match the PS3, then it looks more expensive.

Sorry EA, this feels like a con, you'retrying to get everyone with the nickle and dime approach of a lower up front price and then endless extras to follow. It's like paying $99 a night for a cruise when in fact the true cost is closer to $200 a night. So the cruise line starts nickle and diming you with charges for everything and mandatory tipping of your steward, waiter, Matre'D and so on and so fort until they manage to nickel and dime the other $100 from you during your cruise. Except you find that all in all it'd be cheaper to pay all up front because you spent $150 a day on all that extra crap making the cruise cost $250 a night.

Airlines have adopted this practice too. You pay a "lower" price for your ticket, but you pay a fee to print the ticket, a boarding fee, your bags are charged and you have to buy food and drink on the plane. What's next? Pay toilets on aircraft? (I'd love to see that, can you imagine the mayhem of someone refusing to pay and soiling the seat?)

Of course with all the security crap at airports now you can't buy anything to take on board with you so you are essentially obliged to buy something on board. Not to mention the security bans of carry on bags that some places have enacted means the airline can charge for another bag to be checked. A nice little scam the airlines have there. By the time you add everything up you're paying far more than you were when the price of the ticket included all that stuff.

I guess it was only a matter of time before someone exploited this method of nickel and dime business. No surprise that EA would suggest it, after all the NFS games arrived with all the cars on the disc, but you had to purchase unlock codes for them separately. So you spent $60 on the game and another $20 buying the bloody cars.

I do not like this idea at all.

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Qubex
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 8:03:39 PM

I dislike saying this, but to get real value for money you need to wait for the game to come down in price... 6 months down the line you can get it for $15-20 cheaper usually. Alternatively you get second trade ins that are in near perfect condition. Typically you can buy these for half the price, even a few weeks after release...

It really depends on what you as a gamer are prepared to pay for perceived "value for money". What is the cost of entry to you over the life time of the console; and what budget to do you run to sustain your hobby in a responsible way? Typically I will only buy about 3 games per year.

Its is a poultry sum but as much as I can deal with for now. Time and effort to finish games can take weeks for me. I haven't finished the single player campaign of Killzone 2 yet! I haven't purchased Uncharted 2 yet, but will... I am a bit of a slow coach!

But then again, like the PS2, I will have an absolutely huge huge backlog to chose from over the coming years. I don't mind playing Infamous 3 years from now, or Demon Souls... and I will get them for 10 dollars a piece... so it all depends.

Some of the newer AAA I will probably get, like GoWIII, GT5 and Heavy Rain... the rest can come and go depending on the deals I see. This will keep my "average" cost per game down which will help the budget :)

I want this generation to last me at least 5 more years; I want it to be like sipping a fine wine... there is so much more to come, and so many games to play over the coming years... not overly concerned about release dates either... I will play these games when I play them, simple as that...

Q!

"i am home"

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 9:58:04 AM

I do that for games that are not quite on the gotta have it list. I wait for them to be reduced at retail or get their 'Greatest Hits' release. That way I only pay $40 or less, but the publisher and developer still get their cut.

I do buy many full price games as well - probably too many for good sense it has to be said. But then again, I neither smoke (at all) or drink regularly, so I don't fritter away my money there and at least I have something besides ash and empty bottle left over to show for my money.

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furbiesmustdie
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 5:27:01 PM
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I got a hard copy of Ratchet & Clank: Quest for Booty for $10au and its $25au for a blank blue-ray disc.

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sniperflash
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 6:08:10 PM
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yeah i like to see those blu rays go down i love them i got the new batman for 10 bucks lol and for old school call me crazy but would anyone like to see zelda come to the ps3 lol i know but i would love to see it happen i loved those old ones the new one not so much just because of all the hand movement but my dreams will never come true but could some one lead me to a good ps3 game that is like zelda yeah i know im kinda of a new gamer to this gen but a old one at that lol u guys know what i mean lol

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 7:21:40 PM
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Good!
Bring them down to $49.99/$44.99 like in the great old days

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 8:19:50 PM
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I have not once paid "full" price for a game. Never have paid $59.99 for a game. I just won't do it. There is something inside me that HAS to get a deal.

Toy's R Us constantly has buy one, get one half off.

Best Buy was selling on sale MW2 for 39.99 and Dragon Age for 39.99 last week. I went in there, and showed them Toy's R Us ad, and they matched. So I got MW2 for 39.99 and Dragon Age for 19.99. Both games should have cost $120.00 together regularly priced, and I got them for $60.00 total.

If you are a savy shopper, you can either wait for the game to come down in price after it has been out for awhile, or if you have to have the latest release right away, you can just look around and find a good bargain.

My best score was purchasing Uncharted 2 for 1 penny. Not an everyday occurance I assure you.

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Scarecrow
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 8:25:29 PM

I'm the other way around

I fully support great games like Uncharted 2 and come out happy out of the store, knowing a fully supported Naughty Dog with that purchase

Yes, sadly it's the store which gets a good chunk of that extra money. But overall ND got its fair share.

Paying $59.99 for Demon's Souls was well worth it.

Supporting quality is a priority every gamer should have, imo.

I only care 'bout deals when it comes to accessories.

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 8:49:04 PM

Scarecrow, I hope you have never bought a used game from the likes of Gamestop. Now that is REALLY not supporting developers if that is your goal.

Me? I can't bring myself to pay full price, when I can go across the street and get the same product for cheaper. I have to look out for me and my wallet first.

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MyWorstNightmar
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 9:08:29 PM

I suppose I should made an ammendment to my claim that I have "never" paid full price for a game. When I was younger, I often paid full price for NES and N64 games. I had money to burn back then I suppose.

Now that I am older and hopefully wiser, I have not paid full price for a DS, Wii or PS3 game.

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 10:56:47 PM

I'm with you Nightmar, I seldom buy games at full price.

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Qubex
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 11:22:32 PM

How did you buy Uncharted II for 1 penny MyWorstNightmar? :)

Q!

"i am home"

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LimitedVertigo
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 11:47:47 PM

Penis + Mouth

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:55:40 AM

Limited, I never saw that offer in a Toys R Us ad. Maybe where you live?

Qubex, back when Toys R Us was doing the buy 2 get 1 free deal, I took that ad to Best Buy. I bought Brutal Legend for 59.00, and Borderlands for 59.00, and they charged me 1 cent for Uncharted 2. (So to me, that is three games for 120.00, each costing me $40.00 right?) Well, later I change my mind on Brutal Legend, so I take it back figuring they will give me $40.00 back, but no no no, they give me 59.99 back for it. So I say to myself, if this is their return policy, I am taking Borderlands back, and sure enough, they gave me 59.99 back for it. So that is how I got Uncharted 2 for 1 cent.

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Hezzron
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 9:58:28 AM

@MyWorstNightmar -- I love stories like that. Good for you!

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BikerSaint
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 8:36:39 PM
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If they keep trying to screw gamers over, more & more will just start buying like I do, waiting till it drops to a $20 used price-point (especially since BD's rarely scratch).

And there will still be enough "1st day buy" people who will also trading them back in on the next "1st day buy", so you can always find copies of them on the shelves a few months later.

That's the only way I'm able to buy the games for my collections in batches of 5 to 20.

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Highlander
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 10:20:14 PM

What's the difference between a used PS3 game and a brand new one?

Shrink wrap and about $15 at retail.

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Qubex
Tuesday, January 05, 2010 @ 11:23:25 PM

Exactly Highlander!

Q!

"i am home"

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___________
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:03:38 AM

depends where you got it from.
buy a brand spanking new ps3 game from target and it has scratches all over it because for some reason they keep the games in the manual not the box.
buy a used game from EB and its got absolutely no scratches on it what so ever.
thats why ive only bought 2 games from target and never will again.
take it back with receipt and show them the scratches and they say you did it and refuse to give a refund.
should of reported them to the department of fair trading.

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 10:02:05 AM

Good grief, what is your target doing to the disks? TO scratch a BD you literally have to try to scratch them. I've purchases many games from amazon and the discs are not always retained properly in the case, and yet even through delivery in that state the disc is unscratched.

I think perhaps that target needs to be outed, because PS3 games at least cannot be copied and if they sell a bad disc, they should step up and replace it. Now if it were a regular CD or DVD I could understand some of the reluctance once the shrink wrap is broken. But a PS3 game on BD? ridiculous, they should refund or replace. Most places will at least replace the disc with a clean one, I wonder what justification they have for not replacing the faulty disc?

Buy it on a credit card and demand a replacement from Target. If they fail, contact your card issuer and demand a replacement through them because the disk is damaged and therefore faulty and should be covered by their purchase protection.

I'd definitely report that Target branch as you say. Tell them ahead of time that you will unless they uphold your consumer rights to a replacement for faulty goods. You have rights and they should know that.

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___________
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 6:32:59 AM

exactly.
i have never ever EVER! scratched a bluray disk.
and i even used one as a frizzby outside on the bricks and it still did not get scratched.
target for some reason keeps them in the game manuals instead of the game cases, i think its because they dont get display cases so they have to use those.
opening and closing the draws and such making the disk roll around.
they still should not be getting scratched like they are, so its a stone cold guess why they are.
thats why i never buy games from them, no matter how cheap they are.
instead of siring up a ruckus i just ignore them.
they treat a customer like that, soon there going to mess with the wrong person, and they will find themselves in court.
but i wont be the one there with them, dont have the time or patience.


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___________
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:00:44 AM
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prices double from the PS1 days to PS2 days, than ps3 comes allong and adds another 20 bucks to the mix.
yea, i cant see this happening.
ps3 games have dropped slightly, they use to cost 120 each on release now there roughly 108 each on release.
BUT trade value has dropped dramatically.
i remember trading in rainbow six vegas 2 2 weeks after release and got 90 bucks for it.
though i traded in SAW 12 days after release and got 40 bucks for it.
how a game can depreciate 70 bucks in 12 days is beyond me.
SAW was not made by alfa romeo was it?

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 10:11:38 AM

I think that retailers of used games are learning which titles will sell well used and which will not, and the used value is dropping accordingly. They also know that BDs don't scratch easily, and so if they sell a used copy of a moderately successful game that has a play through time of about 20 hours, it is likely that the game will be back in their hands in a couple of weeks and they can get a second bite of the cherry - so to speak.

I've noted that recently Amazon sells brand new top tier games through pre-order at about $56 (no sales tax) with free shipping and generally includes a $5 incentive reward that can be used on your next purchase making the 'real' price of the game more or less $51 not $60. So It's relatively easy to find games below $60 on launch day.

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Antu
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:21:45 AM
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are they talking about modchip on ps3 ??

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:31:53 PM

Nope. The last one of those mentioned never surfaced and required more than a dozen solder links on the motherboard to accomplish.

If ever anyone does actually produce a mod hip for the PS3 there are other things to take into account. Consider the fact that the system was designed with IBM's assistance and almost certainly includes tamper detection allowing the system to silently 'call home' and notify Sony that it's been modded. The net result of modding a PS3 will be a permaban for the PS3 system and PSN id associated. Sounds like a price that's just not worth paying

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___________
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 6:29:41 AM

or you can use ZPack.
special software and a USB dongle that allow you to store and play games off the HDD.
thats if the videos are not fake.

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Geobaldi
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 11:46:05 PM

But for those that don't take their system online, like me, a ban doesn't mean anything to them.

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