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Mom Complains: "Video Games Were Created By Satan"

Now, before any of you freak out, bear two things in mind: we are talking about a woman who simply wishes to be a good mother and is concerned about what she hears in the press (and if you know nothing about the subject at hand, this is always a bad position to be in), and secondly, let's not give the impression that she might be right by getting all caustic and aggressive.

In a blog entry that's bound to rile many a gamer around the country, staff writer Marla Jo Fisher of The Orange County Register believes that video games can only have a negative impact on children. In her article, she complains that after playing video games at a friend's house, her son will come home "with a sickly pallor" and remains "testy" all day. This is after saying she thinks video games were created by Satan "to turn otherwise normal children into his drooling, glassy-eyed stooges." Then she cites the unfortunate news story of a kid who couldn't stop playing Grand Theft Auto IV; the obsession was to the point where two Boston cops had to step in. Now, considering what she has seen, I will freely sympathize with her and recall a simpler, gentler time...okay, a time before I was born, but I've heard about it, at the very least.

The point is this, and you will forgive me for creating an article that is part news and part editorial: as difficult as this will be for her to accept, this is simply passing the buck. This is seeking out a culprit when the only culprit that ever can exist is - get ready for it - the parenting. I grew up with video games. Everyone I know grew up with video games and still play them to this day. We're all over 30 now and we all have respectable jobs (I know everyone from teachers to programmers to former police officers and salesman), many of us are starting families, and oh yes, not a one of us have a criminal record. Lastly, we were always some of the smartest kids in class, although adulthood has a way of marginalizing those accomplishments to some degree. In the end, when you see a kid walking out of a library with his face buried in a Nintendo DS (as she cites in her article), that really isn't the DS's fault. And it sure isn't Satan's.

My parents were relatively strict about how and when I played my games. Other parents were as well. If my grades dropped (they didn't, but we're doin' a hypothetical, here), I can absolutely guarantee that my play time would've dropped considerably. Now, I have always been a proponent of the ESRB and I wholeheartedly believe that children of a certain age should never be playing something like GTAIV, for the same reasons they should never be attending a rated "R" movie. She's right in wondering why kids "don't think" anymore; they don't because they really are too glued to electronics. But while the pull of these electronics is indeed strong, what is stopping the parents from instituting and maintaining some discipline in the household? What's stopping them from opening the young eyes and minds of their children by introducing them to other aspects of life? Take them to the theater, take them on hikes, take them to the zoo and the carnival and the museum and the town green for a community get-together. Be a parent.

I know, I know. Not being a parent myself, I'm not allowed to lecture. But am I not allowed to use the example of my own parents, or parents I grew up knowing? Am I not allowed to look around me and see intelligent, well-adjusted, respectable individuals who once may have had a "sickly pallor" from playing a game a little too long? The point is, video games can be dangerous for a child, just as most all forms of entertainment can be. But keeping them away from it entirely is typically a bad idea; the curiosity of a child is second-to-none, so if you keep him away from junk food forever, the instant he goes off to college, he may live on junk food. So my advice to the mother here is this: get that Wii and just keep an eye on its use. When the kid goes to a friend's house, maybe he won't be so apt to dive headfirst into the "forbidden" leisure activity, 'cuz he has already experienced it in his own house.

Oh, and the museum and the hikes. Don't forget that. Please, help the child expand his horizons. Put a book into his or her hands before the kid even leaves first grade.

P.S. Read the comments below that blog entry.  A bunch of really intellingent gamers have stepped UP.

1/6/2010 10:54:50 AM Ben Dutka

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Comments (174 posts)

MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:22:13 AM
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Perhaps it was the kids he was hanging out with at the next door neighbors house, and not the video game. Maybe that kid next door is testy with his/her mom, and it is rubbing off on her kid.

My son goes next door, and it ticks me off that I find out he has played T for Teen games or M games. I talk to the adults over there, and make it clear what I expect for my son when he is over there.

I walked in on my son playing Super Mario, stomping on Goombas saying "Die Die Die!". Ahhh, the joys of parenting.

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:22:25 AM
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Oh my lord...

:rolls eyes:

Where to begin? Ben, I agree with you 100%.

I am a parent, and older than you Ben, I remember a time before video games. This person is making a judgment that a child has a sickly pallor after a gaming session? I wonder whether he/she had the same pallor before the games were played? Because I've never seen anyone's pallor change that rapidly unless they were coming down with the 'flu or something. Sounds like hyperbole to me, and you know hyperbole is no substitute for thought.

I'm not going to doubt the religious views of anyone, but to content that all games are the work of Satan is rather an anachronistic thing to do. This is what happened with Radio, TV, Dancing, Rock and Roll, pop music, punk rock, heavy metal, role playing games, TV movies, color TV, etc... Hell, movable type was once considered the work of Satan, as was an English translation of the Bible. Perhaps this person should look at history before making sensational and frankly ill-considered comments. Yet another commentator who sees some aberration like a kid that commits a crime and blames a video game, or in this case a story about one who plays compulsively, and explodes in a wave of hyperbole.

As you say Ben, it's not Satanic influence on the production of games. It's downright lazy, incompetent and irresponsible parenting that is to blame. If parents can't keep their kids use of electronics under control, if they can't control what their child plays and watches, then they are not doing their job as a parent. That's no one's fault but their own. Parents want to abdicate their responsibility and blame everyone else. In the absence of a real physical person to blame, why not blame Satan, he's an easy target. It's hard to argue against Satan being at the root of bad things, whether you consider Satan a literal being, or simply a metaphorical figure for the very ambiguous 'they' that always screw you over.

However it still comes back to parental responsibility and accountability. Be responsible for your kids behavior and hold yourself accountable for any failures.

Your last point about putting a book into a child's hand is a wonderful point. You've said it before, I think I have, and I've certainly agreed with you reading books develops your brain and enhances your intelligence. Yes books can be educational, but they also exercise your imagination and intellect. Show me a child that reads books from an early age, and I'll show you a child that's likely to go to university and succeed in life.

Perhaps I am a Luddite, but I also think that books are best enjoyed as print on paper pages, and not using an ebook reader. That said, I cannot understate the importance of reading regardless of the media.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:47:19 AM

We always on same page. :)

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rogers71
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:14:29 PM

Once again Highlander took the words out of my mouth.

Ben,
I have a 7 year old son that plays video games as much as I do. He also gets straight A's in school because he knows the wrath of dad will come down on him and the video games will be gone if he falls to C or below. It is always the parents responsibility and as in any other venue of life, there will always be people who want to point fingers and pass the buck. It could never be their fault. That kind of thinking really chaps my...well, you know.

Great article as always Ben.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:43:34 PM

Thanks.

And I know there ARE good parents out there. We got some right here. :)

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St_Jimmy
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 6:45:27 PM

Is it just me or does it seem that gamers are better parents than non gamers.

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Qubex
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 8:11:06 PM

Thanks TheHighlander; yourself and Ben put it together perfectly... not much more that can be said :)

Q!

"i am home"

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Jed
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:25:51 PM

@Rodgers

I'm not a parent, but I can totally relate to
"...he knows the wrath of dad will come down on him..."

That made me laugh. Thumbs UP

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johnld
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 3:01:36 AM

sadly some parents really care but just dont know whats going on. While working at best buy, i saw this father walking around with GTAIV and asked me if there are any OTHER games that his 13 year old daughter would like. I immediately told him that GTAIV is a really violent game. The reason he was going to buy it was because his daughter told him to. fortunately he didnt buy it. I mean theres only so much the video game industry can do to help parents but the parents themselves should also do their part.

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Antu
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:25:39 AM
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lolz :p

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N a S a H
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:42:15 PM

I was gonna say that :O

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CaptRon
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:27:29 AM
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Women man... Their all out of their damn minds.

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inkme101
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:34:45 AM
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well ben,

i am a father and I'll tell ya what. my son gets the winter blues bad. he mopes and "lurks about" with this woe is me attitude cause he cant spend much time outside when its 12 degrees. So,this year we got him a ps3 and the boy has never been happier. Now I don't wanna say we're using video games to replace physical activity, but its kind of what its done. he could care less about doing anything physical. Which in the winter is fine by me as long as his grades stay up and he doesn't get too zombified. I still have him read 1 chapter book every day and i feel like the video games are played in moderation. All that was to say this: video games are the BEST thing that ever happened to my son. why? you ask. because he loves that ps3 so much and is so afraid of being grounded from it that it has made him work harder at school, do more chores at home, and be all around a far more well behaved child. I'm serious, he has pulled a complete 180. He used to be kinda angry but now with the proper outlet for his "anger or what have you" he has become an absolute angel. So I say "thank GOD for video games". LOL

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:48:33 AM

Cool story. It really is all a matter of perspective, regardless of the life subject. ;)

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:13:24 PM

LOL! My son is home schooled, he's a special needs child who was being failed by public school. He has a new homework assignment this year. Each week he has to read a chapter in a book (the book is chosen for him) and has to present a written book report on the chapter. It has to be a written report, but he has to present it orally.

I agree with you, video games can be an outlet for frustration and aggression resulting in a calmer, well adjusted child.

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rogers71
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:58:47 PM

Who in their right mind is going to thumb down Highlander's post about his child. Stop trolling and get a life.

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 6:34:34 PM

Hmmmmm, some video gamers must be against reading.

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IronFace2
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:35:25 AM
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Our parents didnt have video games when they were kids so I think they were jealous :D

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Gregory Freeman
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:42:55 PM

my dad grew up with 00% video games... when he was with my mom, he noticed that her mom (My Grandma) was playing "Super Mario Bros." non stop.... well my dad was fascinated with it, and that day, bought a Super Nintendo, and played it 72 hours straight!

now days my dad works 24/6, so he spends his sabbath day playing online Poker, and Red Alert 2...

By that parent's logic, my dad would have been a Turtle Murdering Lunatic, and then later on, would rally the soviets and attack America..

XD in all seriousness, it seems through history, if something exists that you don't approve of, it's always Satan's fault...

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pillz81
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:23:35 AM

Idle parenting is Satan's fault. Idle hands (lazy parents)are the devil's tools.

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Sunni_Boi
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:35:42 AM
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If It Wasnt For Video Games I Honestly Dont Think I Would Be As Smart As I Am In Some Areas. This Mom Should Just Let Her Child Play His Playstation, Xbox, Wii, or Whatever Video Game System And Just Adjust What Games He Plays Based On His Behavior. My Mom Only Took Away My Playstation When I Got In Trouble In Elementary School, And I Was Hooked On Jet Moto 2 So I Definitely Didnt Get In Trouble No More After That! :)

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IronFace2
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:43:21 AM

Agree... my mom took away my PS1 for bad grades at school.
and that was a disaster. Anyway, my grades became better and I got it back. :)

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:47:37 AM

All Caps At The Beginning Of Words? English And The Construction Of Sentences Must Not Be Your Strong Suit.

Or perhaps you are trying to express yourself differently?

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:03:11 PM

Yea dude. Your Captials At The Beginning Of Every Word Make For An Annoying Read.

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fluffer nutter
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:04:30 PM

I agree with you and even though your capitalization looks odd, I don't see why people would jump all over you about it. Although, I do see who made the comments and I'm not surprised. It's one thing to poke fun at someone but just to ridicule them for this? Come on.

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SvenMD
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:04:35 PM

Jawknee, You Misspelled "dude", It's Dude.

Better Luck Next Time.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:07:11 PM

Ha!

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:09:29 PM

No disrespect to you jawknee, and myworstnightmar, cus i like you guys. but let him speak how he wants. He has a voice too and he was just stating his opinion. I know i dont type the best, and frequently make key errors, but scored high enough on my writing test to be placed in an above average class. Im not saying thats great. but what he is typing here might have nothing to do with how he actually writes.

Its what he wrote about and topic included that you should be worried about, not how its written out. I think you guys should re evaluate your sitiuation and see if you can re read it and look past what matters to you and see what matters obtaining to the subject at hand.

Great comment btw, Sunni_boi.

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:27:52 PM

@Sunni_Boi
"Adjust What Games He Plays Based On His Behavior."

One of the best pieces of advice I've seen in this comments section.

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www
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:43:35 PM

I'm surprised at you guys, try to treat our guests better next time

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johnld
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 3:06:15 AM

not trying to show any disrespect but pointing it out maybe because of talking about being smart but expressing it in a somewhat flawed execution. I mean, and this is just an example, you can prove that you're the smartest guy in the world but if you are speaking the way that snoop dogg does, you know foshizzle, it doesnt really back up your claim.

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Alienange
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:43:40 AM
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Satan, Nintendo, same thing.

As for your lecture Ben, no, looking at parents is not the same as being one. Nevertheless, you make valid points. Kids will ALWAYS test you as a parent. Many weak minded individuals are not able to handle rejection, even from a child, so they allow their child to walk all over them. They in turn hate this situation they've put themselves into and point the blame at society.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:57:00 AM

Fail.

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Arvis
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:37:12 PM

Success!

-Arvis

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www
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 4:50:00 PM

Jawknee, enough with the sarcasm :)

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Hezzron
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:45:26 AM
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I'm starting a game development company and I've just trademarked "Satan's Playground" as it's name.

I'm taking applications now.

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fluffer nutter
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 4:30:03 PM

Sign me up. Can we make a proper version of Fairytale Fights? But this time, I want to kill My Little Pony and Rainbow Brite. Oh, and the Care Bears.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 1:17:16 AM

@hezzron73,
So, are we to be known as Satan's Slaves Or Devil's Disciples???

Oh wait, I know of 2 other motorcycle clubs that already own those names LOL.......
No, seriously!.

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:49:53 AM
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Ahhh.... This just reminded me of good old times. It's just too good not to share: I'm 19 now, but back when I was like 8/9 I had a PlayStation. Now, my parents really regretted getting me it because it really me and the way I acted in school. Not in a bad way, mind you; I just kept talking about PlayStation to people. I even remember the teacher complaining to my parents that I bored her ear off about Crash Bandicoot. Anyway, once my parents decided enough is enough, and told me they were going to confiscate my Playstation. Mine had stickers on them, so that I can tell which one is mine and which PlayStation is my cousin's (I'll explain). Luckily, the house we lived in was a combined house, like a privately-owned building with apartments/flats. We shared it with my uncle's family, and my cousin (who's about a year older) had his own Playstation, but his was busted. So what we did was swap the PlayStations before my parents confiscated it for about I think a week or so (a week felt relatively long back then). And I would go visit my cousins house and play there everyday without my parents knowing. And when I got mine back, did the switch, and continued playing as if nothing happened. And they still don't know to this day. :D

And it kinda counters your point about the solution being "it's parent's responsibility to limit their child's use of videogames". Didn't affect me.

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jaybiv
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:19:23 PM

Funny story. I like how you used your noodle to keep gaming.

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pillz81
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:28:38 AM

What your parents did was the smart choice either way. It gave you a problem to solve in a creative way, so Ben is correct in his opinion..

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inkme101
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:00:37 PM
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well sometimes the kids just happen to outsmart the parents, but that wont happen in my home. atleast where video games are concerned. LOL

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:03:50 PM

Are you sure? Kids can pull off a fast one if you ain't lookin'.

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inkme101
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:07:35 PM

i will admit my kids pull the wool over my eyes in some areas but only the areas where i have limited control of the situation. when it comes to video games: I HAVE SUPREME RULE! in my home

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johnld
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 3:11:23 AM

well, if you're also playing the game console, chances are that its in the family room. that way he has more control of what his kids play when the kid has everything in his room and the parent dont know whats going on. Kudos to you for actually doing your part.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:01:03 PM
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My parents taught me self contol. My use was limited and I wasn't allowed to bring stuff like gameboys out in public. This woman needs to rethink this. The same could be said about beer.

"satan created beer to turn us all into mindless, stinky, drunks". I love beer but I choose to drink it in moderation just like I tend to at games in my off time. Work first, play later. The kid needs to learn self control and she needs to teach it to him.

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:02:45 PM

I agree with you. This seems to be the best solution.

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:20:41 PM

LOL. I always love people that claim that alcohol is the work of Satan. Usually I let them have their say and they politely ask if that includes wine.

Of course they say, YES! At which point I demand that they retract such a terrible accusation against Jesus. When the look of angry confusion appears on their face I continue, explaining that if alcohol is the work of Satan and wine is alcoholic, then it too is the work of Satan (as they just confirmed). Remembering that Jesus turned water to wine - as written in the Bible (like the one they're holding...). Logically speaking, they just accused Jesus of emulating Satan, or worse, they're calling Jesus, Satan...

It's usually a good time to flee the location at that point. It takes a few seconds for their brain to wrap itself around the logic.

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:24:43 PM

@ Highlander: IMO, there's no doubt alcohol is harmful. I mean, it has absolutely no benefits (other than being drinkable), and it comes with a ton of disadvantages.

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bridgera
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:30:18 PM

I started drinking at the age of 12 and now have a MS degree in Physics and have a good paying job. Clearly it was only by drinking alcohol that I was able to get an education and be a productive member of society.

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:40:37 PM

@WolfCrimson

Wine is an integral part of Christian belief, even at the last supper they drank wine, not water. I understand the point about alcohol in excess being a problem, but at the same time, alcohol in moderation is depicted as a healthy thing in th Bible. Which is why I always find it amusing when a 'Christian' tries to denounce alcohol as something horrible.

I was just pointing out a paradox in the behavior of some, and not making a value judgment about wine.

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:46:02 PM

@Highlander Ah OK, I get your point.

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:24:36 PM

"Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy."
-- Benjamin Franklin

Thats all I have to Say, or well all Benjamin has to say!

I do agree alcohol in excess isn't necessarily a good thing. I'm pretty much in agreement with Highlander as always.

I will point out, both alcohol and gaming should be respected and can be dangerous in excess. I'm 23 and can honestly say I've done my fair share of drinking, but I lost interest in it. I dont go to the bar because a $40 tab, and a hangover isnt my idea of a fun night out, or money well spent.

But on the flip side alcohol is and can be good when monitored, certain beers go good with certain foods. And games well as long as the parent monitors a childs hobby then it shouldn't reflect negatively. Games can still be a hobby and a part of your life, but when you stop respecting that then it can consume you, as does alcohol.

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:47:20 PM

Yeah, well, I don't drink.

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Arvis
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:26:06 PM

Jawknee hit the nail on the head: Self-discipline.

Mature people know how to use their time wisely. If you have an obligation to take care of, nothing frivolous (video games, parties, drinking, etc) should keep you from fulfilling it. Once you allow the unimportant things to take precedence, you've failed. Period.

-Arvis

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Shams
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:23:55 PM

Jesus, God's 'only son' or God himself, as it were, according to Christian belief, getting tipsy or even mildly buzzed with his buddies on the final night before dying for the whole of mankind's sins? I don't think so. The heavenly personality who's night lamp was the moon, who's only pillow was a stone, who was too pure for even having a wife, who's clothing was chaffing, coarse cloth, who's food was coarse bread, and fasting and hunger was his only spice, and whose only company were the down-trodden, broken-hearted, abandoned, have-nots. Even a drop of alcohol? Something was obviously lost in translation.

And Benjamin Franklin was probably a bit tipsy himself when he made the quote. That, and not having alcoholism in his family. I've seen what it does to families. And if there's a God (my personal belief in him aside), I'm sure He has, too.

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johnld
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 3:14:47 AM

hahaha, when i was small, i could only play videogames for a bout 2 hours a day. well....i guess its not much since we actually went out to play then. But try telling a kid to stop playing now compared to back then, all you're hear is "just a few more minutes" until you just give up. well, i still said "just a few more minute" but i did stop after a few minutes,lol.

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Andysw
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 10:44:45 AM

Highlander,

The word wine may not literally refer to wine that we have now. More so grape juice in the days.

I know I'm off topic, but thought I tell you that.

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Highlander
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 11:01:28 AM

@Andy,

Until there is a 100% reliable and completely un-spun translation of all biblical (and other holy texts such as the Qur'an) - that is a translation from the languages on the earliest manuscripts available without a western, eastern, christian, islamic or any other spin, bias, weighting, or leaning, I'll leave the arguments over specific meanings of words to the academics. What I do know is that in the bibles I have seen in my life Jesus drinks wine, and miraculously turns water into wine. Contextually speaking it was not uncommon for weak wine to be drunk with means and at large gatherings because potable water (as in drinkable) was not always reliably available. So dilute wine was used because even in ancient times humans realized that something in the wine (the alcohol as we now know) made the water/wine blend safe(r) to drink. So until someone comes up with a translation that is reliable as I described above that says that it wasn't wine, but grape knee-hi I will continue to understand the word wine to mean wine.

@Shams,

I trust you're being sarcastic, because otherwise you're indulging in rationalization based in today's context and a specific viewpoint of Christ.

As for Ben Franklin, I like this quote which is strangely applicable to the suject of this thread... "Educate your children to self-control, to the habit of holding passion and prejudice and evil tendencies subject to an upright and reasoning will, and you have done much to abolish misery from their future and crimes from society."

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Andysw
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 12:00:55 PM

There are two uses for wine in the new testament. Translated from greek which the new testament was written in, Oinos means generic wine and gleuos means sweet wine or fresh juice.

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Radiohead
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:25:09 PM
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well at least video games keep kids distracted from doing worst stuff like actually stealing a car or shooting people.

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bridgera
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:26:22 PM
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I think nuts like this lady get too much attention. It is the fault of the media, and the fault of the public, for giving attention to this type of nonsense.

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:38:37 PM

Actually there is a silver lining in all this. It shows that faulty parenting exists, and this needs to be addressed, because the youth are the leaders of tomorrow, and they need to grow properly.

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:49:01 PM

Ack! I meant *be raised* properly, not *grow*. My bad.

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bridgera
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 2:11:56 AM

Not sure what the silver lining is in some woman claiming that Satan is responsible for the effects of video games on our youth.

Faulty parenting will always exist, and it does need to be addressed, but giving attention to the crazy lady isn't productive.

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jaybiv
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:29:36 PM
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This lady is preaching to the choir there in Orange County. That area is caught between being in crazy L.A.'s shadow and its conservative foundation.

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frostface
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:38:53 PM
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If ya give the kid a book she'll probably say it's full of Satanic verse's or something...what a nut job! She needs to stand up and be a parent but when that fails it's easier to blame someone else and when there's noone else around to blame, blame Satan! I blame Satan every time I turn on my console, I swear when you see me playing Demon's Souls you'd swear I was possessed!

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Sunni_Boi
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:39:10 PM
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It Kills Me Sometimes When People Look At How You Write Something And NOT What It Means......And Im Not Even In English Class!

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N a S a H
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:40:48 PM

Oh the irony.

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:45:55 PM

Thank you. You are correct. It is the content that matters.

There are so many ways in which the ability to use language can be different from person to person. People may have a different style, a different educational background, they may not speak English as a first language (or even a second or third language) or they may face some other difficulties such as dyslexia. But, the point is not everyone expresses them self in the same way. It's not like you posted in all lower case using texting shorthand is it?

I had no trouble reading or understanding your post.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:46:22 PM

It's because it's a distraction.

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:11:45 PM

Thank you highlander! Gosh i wish i spoke like you, I'd be set. ;) anyways just listen to what he has to say rather than how he says it, or types it. He deserves that as much as the next guy round here!

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G8GTdriver
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:14:25 PM

I agree. But isn't it a pain to type like that? Constantly hitting the shift key or is there an automatic way of doing that?

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 7:08:50 PM

Highlander, this type of forum begs for mispelling, slang, shorthand, it is expected.

Sunny, no offense intended. I find your "style" of typing distracting. Perhaps I am not hip. No, it is true, I am not hip.

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Blaiyan
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 8:46:09 PM

Here we go..

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Naztycuts
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:42:39 PM
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Some people have no lives and these are the kinds of things they write about, that's what I've taken away from the artticle. There were no real facts to support her claim that video games were causing these effects on her son, maybe she should be a better mother and actually get to know her son's friends parents so they can agree on what is and isn't to happen with her child there. She said she read the GTA story in the Boston Herald but no one batted an eye at the fact he was 14 playing an M rated game. The ESRB is there for a reason, it's her fault for not paying attention to it. I think if Sony, Microsoft, and Nintendo knew how many children they were raising in the U.S. they would want to charge a babysitting fee.

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Sunni_Boi
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 12:57:32 PM
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Thanks 4 Having My Back Highlander, And Jawknee i aint tripping i understand how people have different tastes but this is how i set myself apart from the other "psxextremers" out there. Im not an ignorant type person see how i made all my letters lower cased for ya :) Anyways for anybody out there my psn name is Sunni_Boi add if yall want some nice competition! And I Do Have A Mic!

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Alienange
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:02:46 PM

BT Mic FTW!

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:10:36 PM

Ha it's fine. I don't really care that much. Just giving you a hard time. There's plenty of ways to express your self using the english language without having to alter the way it's written or looks. Having all Caps for each word just distracts some from what your text is saying is all I meant by it. No one thinks your ignorant. Don't take me seriously. I kid. :)

Welcome to PSX.

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Banky A
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:18:20 PM

I don't mind at all but how much more time consuming is writing each word with a capital letter?

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www
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 6:26:22 PM

Hey Sunni_Boi, I gave you thumbs up. I guess everybody wants to meet the new kid on the block especially one who has his pic up. The other kids at psxe don't mean it, dont mind Jawknee, I gave him a wedgy the other time ;)

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 8:37:35 PM

And I loved every second of it.

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bigrailer19
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 1:51:18 AM

Awkward!!!!

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fluffer nutter
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:02:31 PM
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We get The OC Register and I've read this woman's crap before. I would put her in the same light as the hostesses of The View. It scares me that these people have such influence on the women of America. It saddens me, too.

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Hezzron
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:39:57 PM

"The View".

That's a hen-house in need of a good rooster.

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pillz81
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:37:53 AM

The View is a total vertical smile fest.

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nogoat23
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:06:40 PM
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lol @ the picture. That's not exactly what I think of when I read 1 Peter 5:8, haha.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 1:33:07 AM

@hezzron73
LOL to that one!!!!

As for myself.......I'm sure some cock-a-do-dude'le will do with those View gals, but I'd just have to go find some pills to "KILL" off my libido,
(except for a few hours with Young Blondie)

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G8GTdriver
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:08:09 PM
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Yeah. They aren't playing video games, I used the we're just "playing video games" line on my parents and sometimes it was true, but usually not. lol That "sickly pallor" is the swigs of alcohol he just ingested.

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:23:34 PM

Unfortunately too true, and these days it could be alcohol or other slightly hallucinogenic substances...

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BikerSaint
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 1:45:15 AM

That kid's pasty pallor could even be from huffing cans of paint, her hair spray, or even her aerosol cleaners whenever she's not watching.(but I'll make bet that her can of Drano stays full)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:17:56 PM
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Welcome to teenagers lady.

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:21:55 PM

ROTFLMAO!

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:37:17 PM
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@ Ben: There's something wrong with the forums. I can't access it for some reason, it says "Address not found" and this is not the first time. What's going on?

Does this happen to anybody else as well?

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Ben Dutka PSXE [Administrator]
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:45:49 PM

No, they seem fine. I'm not sure what the problem is on your end.

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bearbobby
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:39:41 PM
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An imaginary entity cannot create anything but deception. Man created "Satan." Your kid just needs guidelines, deal with him openly and stop making excuses by blaming his behavior on anyone but him.

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WolfCrimson
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:02:32 PM

I would advise you to watch what you say, or in this case, how you say it. You might be stepping on some people's toes, and you wouldn't want that. It doesn't hurt to add "I believe" or "IMO", rather than state i as fact, because it comes off as arrogant, and I'm sure you're not one who would want that.

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Madmanonfire
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:32:41 PM

But he's right. Also, this mother is asking for it. She would have the gall to say "this fake entity created video games!", when everyone knows (or should know) that isn't true. She deserves it for being stupid enough to hand the blame over to a religious figure and not try to take responsibility.

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bearbobby
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 8:30:26 PM

@WolfCrimson

You're absolutely right and I apologize. Religions and superstitions are never "stepping on people's toes" and people spouting their dogma never come off as arrogant.

Sorry, I'm tired and cranky, but it's 20-frickin'-10, we need to move on as a people. The way I see it people should believe in themselves... and we should have jetpacks.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 8:40:50 PM

Yes because those "superstitions" never taught the human race anything valueable, like not to murder, steal and covet. Let's move on people and start working on those jet packs.

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WolfCrimson
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 12:53:14 AM

@ bearbobby: Hey if someone, or something, did a wrong, that's no justification to do it yourself. As for religions and superstitions "stepping on people's toes", every religion and superstition is different, it's a very broad "issue" so I can't comment on that. Modernity has nothing to do with anything. And the reason why I said what I said is because, well, I like the community here, don't want it ruined with religious showdowns or flaming or anything. There are always people with different beliefs to yourself.

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pillz81
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:43:07 AM

bearbobby, people are sheep and therefore shouldn't believe in themselves totally because we will never be as evolved as you may want to believe. Adults and children have continued to act in the same ways every generation in human history.

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BTNwarrior
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:46:16 PM
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If you think the generation of mothers who think that videogames are evil are bad, you have not met a mother from the generation that grew up thinking tv was bad. Hell when I was a kid my grandma threw a hammer through my tv because she didn't like what I was watching.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 6:19:04 PM

That's fracking awesome. Ha!

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therabbitkinge
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:52:09 PM
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The word parenting is such an insult these days. Tell an adult they need to use parenting and they all go into a fit of rage!

Well when it cames to games my mom taught me the value of a buck by making me earn cash to rent a PS1 and games from my local blockbuster and man oh man did it work.

Simple stuff working with my old man was fun and I learned a lot about how gaming didn't need to be my only outlet for education and entertainment.

Now as a proud father (im suprised how man of us there are btw lol) I hope to be able to impart similiar methods on my son because simply "passing the buck" as Ben put it is unacceptable.

Hopefully this concerned parent will change the focus of her concern at a more feesable issue instead of blaming the things she and/or her family buy for her child.

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Darwin1967
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 1:53:44 PM
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Having worked as a consumer rep for a very large, well known video game company, I can say I've heard just about everything from the puritanical. This whole, VG's are satans work is nothing new. You should have heard the yelling and screaming when Mortal Kombat hit store shelves. You would have thought the second coming was upon us. One mother suggested, that because I worked for the company she was calling, I had clearly earned a special place in hell. When I heard the vicious, snarly, evil that spewed from the mouths of people so concerned with the mortal souls of the youth it made me wonder...who had Satan touched more. I for one, KNOW it comes down the parenting, and VGs are an area where parenting, IMHO, is paramount. Take for example a friend of mine who's son came out to dinner. He brought with him his PSP and was playing GTA...when I jokingly asked if he had talked to any hookers lately, he laughed and said yeah, I had one in my car. His mother about spit noodles through her nose and said, "what hookers?!". When I explained the game to her, she was beside herself both with embarrassment and horror at the thought she had purchased this game for her 9 year old. Needless to say, GTA was swiftly removed from his game inventory. Apparently, when he hits puberty, she might consider returning it to him.

I wish more parents actually took the time to talk with their kids, to understand what it is that they are playing or want to play, and to make it a family thing...not just something to throw at your kid to make him/her happy.

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Alienange
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 9:20:25 PM

You hit the nail on the head with that experience. Thank you for sharing it.

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:48:57 PM

Darwin, that boy was probably none to happy with you that night!

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fuk u
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:02:47 PM
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this is just trrrble. what a trrrble trrrble thing..

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Hezzron
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 4:27:43 PM

Thanks Chuck!

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Riku994
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:10:02 PM
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I grew up on video games. I may not have the best grades, but I have a beautiful girlfriend that loves me, I'm in advanced math, I have never failed a class, I have no criminal record, I've never taken drugs or been drunk, never smoked a cigarette, nothing. Bad influence? I think not. The responsibility honestly lies within the parents, monitoring what their children play. Sure I plyaed Resident Evil when I was 5, but I never had to urge to shoot someone because I knew better. And thats where the child's own intellect comes in. If you're not teaching your children that what happens in video games stays in video games (see what I did thar?)and if your child can't handle that, THEN you can take the video games away. And sure you can't handle them when they're out of your sight, but that's when you should be contacting the other parent and tell them that you'd prefer if your child didn't spend their whole time there playing video games. It's your responsibility parents, not "Satan's"

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:14:53 PM

Isn't it funny how people have to find something to tear us down with?

You're a good person, a good student have a stable relationship, don't smoke, drink to excess or do drugs, therefore something else *must* be wrong. What're your hobbies...oh, you play video games!? Those foul, degrading, filth ridden, murder trainers? Excellent...er, I mean disgusting. Spawn of Satan, how dare you play those things!? They are the things of Satan, you must be cleansed. Call a priest we have an exorcism to conduct!

I don't understand why it is that some people act like this, it really is like they just can't accept people as they are and have to find something wrong with them. I guess games make an easy target because when you want a rent a quote there are plenty of politicos ready to make generalized statements of doom about violence and sex in games.

*sigh*

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Banky A
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:16:04 PM

Well, doesn't everybody say their girlfriend is beautiful anyways?
Teehee.

+1

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 7:15:16 PM

Beautiful girlfriend who tolerates video gaming? You better not screw that one up!

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Riku994
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 7:21:25 PM

@ Nightmare: I got my ex into Oblivion and Sonic, and I've already gotten this one into Sonic : D haha I think I even convinced her to try Demon's Souls some time...

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BikerSaint
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 1:58:15 AM

@Riku994,
You had Res 4 when you were five?

Heck, when I was 5, Mom only gave me Grandma's stick....

.....a stick!

"BOOM"

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Riku994
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 8:20:38 PM

I didnt say RE4 lol.

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Sir Shak
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:11:13 PM
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Ma'am , if you can't handle your son , you shouldn't have had him in the first place . But I can understand your plight , it's hard to be so religious and accept responsibilities at the same time .

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Cuetes
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:28:45 PM
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Being the parent of two I can see some of her points, but to be totally truthful I cold hardly disagree. My boy loves games, he would tear a hole in most of you "gamers". He is also an A average student, plays sports, recently won a school spelling bee, and relatively a good kid. Whenever he slips, he knows his games are gone, so he works hard at it. My daughter plays as well, she is 6 doing 4th grade work because she attends accelerated classes. Before I introduced games to them I had a hard time communicating with them, but since then I have broken that barrier. Thanks to games we talk, laugh and have a great relationship. Now can that really be satan's doing? I think not

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bigrailer19
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 2:50:54 PM
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I know this is a gaming site and most everyone will disagree with this lady. But isn't it odd that even on her blog most everyone disagrees with her?

It goes to show just how uneducated some people are not to mention she never cited one thing. Everything of hers was pure opinion. The problem with opinion is its hard to sway peoples decisions unless you can somehow prove your point. She can not do this. She mentioned he kids skin color changing after playing vids. Well then i'd see a doctor cus he might be sick. Theres no logical explanation why that would happen unless a problem existed elsewhere. I know my skins never changed colors and trust me i've played my fare share of vids, as well as everyone else here.

Gaming is a great hobby, and it seems from reading previous comments that everyone is well off with gaming being either a family thing or a personaly hobby. There have been a ton of comments pertaining to games actually making there child more focused because of worry the system may be taken away if grades slip for instance. There also have been comments pertaining to how it made a family come together more so because of gaming. It gives them time together. I know that gaming has nothing to do with what i do with my life. it certainly is a hobby of mine, and i hope i love and respect gaming as much as i do today in 20 years. I not only enjoy the time i can game, but its my distraction from the world. Its its my drug or alcohol i guess you could say. But i dont let it distract me from everyday life neither.

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fluffer nutter
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:06:53 PM
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Why does Satan get such a bad rap? He's seriously misunderstood. Shame on these people.

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Banky A
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:14:20 PM

Yeah he's a straight up holmie that has to deal with the bad people all day.

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Banky A
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:13:50 PM
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But MOM...
Woman!

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dante_zero
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:25:02 PM
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maybe this woman should play Dante's Inferno when it comes out. if i remember my history right there was no such thing as Satan or this idea of a little red devil till after Dante wrote his canto's. Maybe she might learn a little something. anyway. gaming for me has always been a family thing and certainly alot of responsibilty lie's with parents. I used to be gutted when I had my PS1 taken of me cause of trouble at school. and to make it worse my mum would play crash bandicoot instead just to remind me what i was missing cause it had been taken off me. it's safe to say i didnt get into much trouble after that. lol

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tes37
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:47:10 PM
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I remember being told that I had a bad attitude when coming back from friends or relatives houses, when I was a kid, and video games had nothing to do with it. They had nothing to do with it because we didn't play any.

This woman may be so strict that it causes the kid to hate having to go back home. She may look for something or someone to blame other than herself.

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Kr3sn1k
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 3:51:06 PM
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Well i have a question lets say saten did make video games would it mean that us as the players of those games are sinners...

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 4:21:39 PM

Not sure you'll find many takers on that question, it's something that can too easily lead to the inevitable religion flames.


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Hezzron
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 4:31:27 PM

I'll take you up on it.

The answer is no, because Satan doesn't make video games. Santa and his little helpers do.

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tes37
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 4:32:31 PM

No. But they would probably be poorly made with a cheap price tag of about $6.66.

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Jawknee
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 4:43:40 PM

He invented the Xbox and Bill Gates sold him his soul for it's rights.

=P

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Naga
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 5:19:24 PM

Any game title that features a year at the end besides PES or Fifa is evil, even ones with the game at the end to! lol

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pillz81
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:52:06 AM

Check the letters in Santa's name and it will clearly spell satan.

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gumbi
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 4:42:12 PM
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Oh dear, here we go again.

Highlander and the rest of you have all made great points, and there's not much more for me to elaborate on.

Suffice it to say, I have two children and there's no way I'll be denying them the joy of video games. I grew up with video games and by golly I turned out alright. That's the key though, I grew up WITH video games, not ON video games. So shall my children.

Parents who are unfamiliar with video games really need to educate themselves, you should always have an active involvement and good understanding of your child's pastimes. I'm not saying parents have to take up gaming with their kids, but they do have to moderate it intelligently.

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fluffer nutter
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 6:40:58 PM

I completely agree with you. I was lucky enough to have video games that complimented my outdoor activites and my schoolwork. My kids understand that if they don't do well in school, or behaving and taking care of their chores, then no video games for them.

Man, I remember when I was a kid, and I got in trouble, I was forced to stay indoors and not play with my friends. That was torture. There's nothing like being outdoors but watching a good story or playing a video game does have its rewards.

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:27:35 PM

Great point - growing up with and not on games.

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Darwin1967
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 4:42:34 PM
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If any game is made by Satan, it's the Xbox [insert evil monster voice]....THE RED RING OF DEATH.

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Naga
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 5:16:35 PM

No the Xbox is the black king Akron, satan?! meh the Wii

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556pineapple
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 5:18:34 PM
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Well said. I always enjoy reading your views on this subject. This is the reason I'm glad to be a part of this site.

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Nerull
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 5:23:46 PM
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Great article, even though this issue looks like it will never go away, thanks in large part to todays media.
If Satan created videogames, well it just proves that anybody can have a good day. I'm far more inclined to believe that Satan is responsible for the way all those A's become so marginalized the second you step into the workforce.

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FlyingKickPunch
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 5:59:04 PM
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it's true you know. satan created games. he told me so when i played my raffi cd's backwards.
damn ignorant parents.
i cant wt til my kid's old enough to play games with me...until they beat me...

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rogers71
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 6:01:31 PM
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What these outbursts are usually about is someone looking for their 15 minutes of fame.

Instead of creating blogs and, no doubt, doing interviews with the media, this woman needs to be spending more time with her child to address his chameleon like abilities. 'Nuff said.

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Scarecrow
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 6:17:25 PM
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Blame v-games 'cause you don't know how to be a parent

Very nice!

By the way, Satan doesn't exist. At least not the one referenced in the bible.

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Kowhoho
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:44:44 PM

I watched on History channel (or something) that some random preist pretty much added on the whole Hell idea to the religion long after its inception.

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Scarecrow
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 1:47:09 AM

Exactly

Religions are as real as any fairy tale
Heh, who knows how high people were in those days anyway?

Seriously, the possibility that there could be an evil "power" is possible. That I believe

But the idea that we know it's some guy underground it's freaking hilarious. Where's heaven in the vast universe anyway? It's surely not in the clouds....

And if not believing in religion is so bad, will "god" really damn the 1 billion + in China who don't believe in Christianity?

Anyway

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bigrailer19
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 2:01:39 AM

I wish you guys wouldnt involve religion. First off and formost this is a gaming site! Second for the people who do believe in God like myself, you truly are disrespectful. I'm not gonna sit here and tell you there is a God because this isnt the time nor the place, and i certainly wouldn't put you in that position so repect me as I have you please. I visit this site daily for gaming news and the last thing i wanna see is this conversation unless it was otherwise productive.

You may believe what you want thats your choice. But there is nothing wrong with believing and having faith so I ask again please leave it be if you dont have that faith.

To put this on a gaming perspective and on topic, this lady is looking for a scapegoat. She's a nut job to think anything like that. She hasn't provided one solid fact in that blog, everything was pure opinion.

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Sunni_Boi
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 7:34:05 PM
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Its Not That Much More Time Consuming, I Have Gotten Used To It By Now, And www I Dont Wanna Get On Nobody Bad Side Who Gives Wedgies :)

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 8:20:25 PM

Sunni, press reply to someones comment, that way your responses stay with the ones you intend. Keeps things nice and tidy like that.

Unless you are trying to be different again... =)

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Highlander
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:28:43 PM

Atomic Wedgies actually...

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Sol
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 7:51:34 PM
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*Sigh*

The key words that caught my eye:

Kid... and GTAIV.

Enough said.

I don't think I really need to expand on this one.

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Cholo Gamer
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 9:45:14 PM
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My parents are the same if my grades drop bye-bye internet, and PS3. So I really work hard and they do take me on trips to like Mexico. What parents should do is when they're at school take the PS3 away and hide it.

Also, parents should have a time limit for their children if they surpass thelimit diconnect it and hide it. That kid really had some problems if the cops had to step in.

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Jed
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:40:13 PM
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I dont have any kids, but I used to be one. My parents were always great about letting us know what is real, and what is not. When we would see something new on TV or a movie, they would make sure we understood the meaning of fiction.

By the time GTA 3 came out, they didnt have to worry about what I saw in video games, they knew that I wasnt some kind of school shooter or something likt that.

If you are so dissconnected with your kids that you are worried about them becoming evil or stupid vecause of video games, then you should probably take the weekend off and just spend some time with them.

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pillz81
Saturday, January 09, 2010 @ 11:59:02 AM

If my mother didn't buy me video games I would have been in the arcades and she would have had an abducted child.

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Jed
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:40:59 PM
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I dont have any kids, but I used to be one. My parents were always great about letting us know what is real, and what is not. When we would see something new on TV or a movie, they would make sure we understood the meaning of fiction.

By the time GTA 3 came out, they didnt have to worry about what I saw in video games, they knew that I wasnt some kind of school shooter or something likt that.

If you are so disconnected with your kids that you are worried about them becoming evil or stupid because of video games, then you should probably take the weekend off and just spend some time with them.

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Kowhoho
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:41:47 PM
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Last!
Just kidding. So I took a look at the blog and read most of the comments and I got a few good lols. Although not as good as the Black Looks blog post about RE5 in Africa!

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MyWorstNightmar
Wednesday, January 06, 2010 @ 11:45:12 PM

Everyone gets a last.

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___________
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 12:55:12 AM

yea RE5 is really racist because all the zombies are black.
HELLO!!!! IT IS SET IN AFRICA!
last time i checked theres not many white people in Africa, well in comparison to black people.
its like creating yakuza and saying its racist because 99% of the characters are Japanese.

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___________
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 12:46:27 AM
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ill second those hikes.
i remember when i was young me and my father every Sunday would take a hike to a national park, or take a drive to the blue mountains and take a walk through the Forrest.
i remember one day going to burning palms, the most beautiful place i have ever been.
a really REALLY steep walk down a cliff almost but once your down there crystal clear water and pure white sand greet you.
O and you can go rock climbing and theres rock pools, nice and warm and crystal clear.
good to keep you fit, really relaxing and well the funnest thing ive ever done.
shame we dont do them anymore.

all ill say is this.
if a parent is too lazy to watch what her kids do to entertain themselves its her fault.
there is more than adequate warnings on lables of games saying if there suitable for kids or not.
why are games always the scapegoat?
i mean seriously i have seen some seriously sick stuff in movies and no one says boo, someone takes half of it and puts it in a game and the sh*t hits the fan!
people like here are the ones i have to thank for half our games getting banned.
THANK YOU!

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eLLeJuss
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 1:34:02 AM
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People always try to find something bad about anything fun.

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BikerSaint
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 3:28:28 AM
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Everyone who knows me here, already knows my take on this from prior articles that blamed video games for every kid with a serious misbehavior problem.

Video games are not the problem....but bad parents are!!!!!

It's most usually the very same kid's parents who complain all the time, who are the real blame...
yup, those same parents who "throw" their kids outside for 15 hours a day with little to no supervision at all.

Or those very same parents who think nothing of turning on the TV & VCR & giving their kid the remote & controller from the moment they awaken, till it's they go to bed at midnight.
WAKE UP, A PIECE OF ELECTRONICS IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL SUPER-NANNY!!!!

Or parents who don't have, or even care, enough child-rearing skills(or no backbone, or even just plain laziness) to not give in every single time their kid starts complaining about something they're told to do, like I see every time I'm going down the supermarket candy & Ice Cream aisles.

I'll bet that the mom who had to call the police on her kid playing GTA, had bought her kid that game the very moment he first whined about wanting it.

Another bad side-affect about neglectful parenting is that a lot of their own kids are going out & having kids themselves at a super young age.
So now we have more kids that are forced at 14 to suddenly grow up as single-parents and without parenting skills too, or even any kind of supervision or guidance either.
And if these new new children can't get the skills from their own teenage parents, then just how, & where are they supposed to learn them????

A few quick thoughts on the writer of this gaaarrrr-bage....

1. Why didn't she go meet the other parents & explain that her child isn't allowed watch movies or games that weren't rated for his age.

2. Where is the father in this whole story?
It's odd that there's no mention of a dad or any male figure at all, so maybe could that also add to at the very least, part of her overall problem too????

3.She needs to set logical rules & responsibilities for her child so he'll make it in the real world, and not brainwash him so he winds up fearing life later on.

4. I'll bet she's so overbearing that she's actually stunting any real growth potential & creativity her child may have had.

5. I'll also make bet that Ms. Frumpty actually believes she a real live journalist.

6. Satan needs to brand her in the a** with a nice red hot flaming pitchfork!!!

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Highlander
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 11:49:50 AM

@BikerSaint

"A PIECE OF ELECTRONICS IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL SUPER-NANNY!!!! "

Excellent advice.

BikerSaint FTW!

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Robochic
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 4:11:14 AM
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I do believe that it's the parent responsibility to parent the child on anything.

With me I have a 5 year old with Autism which is difficult in it's own ways especially since hes 5 but acts like he 10 his brain processes things differently. For some reason games are his outlet they get him out of his world and into ours with playing certain games with me and my husband since autistic children don't like to socialize this way playing tetris or Peter rabbit JK-SK or even racing games like GT he's at least socializing with us.

Honestly if parents just be there for their kids, teach them right from wrong and distill self control and only let them play games that are for their Rating group then their would be no problem playing games, but unfortantly their are some parents that want to be a friend not a parent and I have met alot of those parents.

Ben I agree with you 100% and highlander same goes for you! Reading is the best thing for a child I love reading and love reading books to my kids to get their imaginations going it's amazing what a book can do once you sit and read it and how many place you can go without leaving you're couch!

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Highlander
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 11:48:22 AM

@Robochic

My son is autistic also, and has significant challenges due to very, very severe ADD. Games have allowed him to participate in activities that are age appropriate and that give him a common context with his peers.

Playing games has helped in so many ways, the hand eye coordination improvements have been awesome. Games like Ratchet and Clank have improved his spatial awareness and hand eye coordination out of all recognition. Of course my wife and I play games, so it also gives him a common frame of reference with us. That gives us something to talk about with him.

It's not just the games of course, we are very active with interventions of all kinds from physical and occupational therapy to home schooling and working constantly to improve his ability to handle social skills and interaction.

I could probably write 20,000 words on this topic but I won't. PM me on the forum if you want to discuss further. All I will say is that with active and loving intervention by parents, doctors and therapists, Autism can be coped with and to an extent overcome. There's no cure, you can't magically rewire the brain, but you can help the brain help itself.

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BikerSaint
Friday, January 08, 2010 @ 3:47:10 PM

Robochic & Highlander,
Amen to both of you, well spoken & well thought out.

BTW, my grandson is mildly Autistic too, and playing games with, and reading books to him has helped his social skills along too.

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Snaaaake
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 6:31:13 AM
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These parents who are blaming video games for affecting their child should be ashamed of themselves.

I have a cousin who was 7 years old when he was exposed to GTA and I taught him how to play.

Guess what, he is now naughty but not crazy and violent, I didn't even said things like you shouldn't do this and that. It was his parents that disciplined him well(maybe not good enough but it's enough for him to stay naughty rather than violent).

It's the parents fault for not teaching their children properly.

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Macavity
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 9:20:05 AM
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Stupid mom is stupid. *sigh*

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Blink182Fan99
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 12:32:02 PM
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How can it be Satan's fault if he doesn't exist? :P

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CptGreedle
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 1:11:18 PM
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She has a new article up, where she blames video games on Voldemort, and continues to spout the same bull she has been. She even tries to get Einstein into it, but fails when she says he finished his Unified Field Theory.

Parents like her are the reason there is evil in the world today.

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Highlander
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 1:37:48 PM

She is an attention seeker trying to generate hype, hits and micro-fame.

Don't give her what she wants by visiting her site.

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kaufdaddy21
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 4:47:53 PM
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I guess educational games were the spawn of satan as well. Who would have known that playing Reader Rabbit and other The Learning Company games when I was a kid were bad for me. Lets just hope this mom decided on getting some Leap Frog gear for her kids... oh wait those are games too. Satan is everywhere I guess.

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BikerSaint
Friday, January 08, 2010 @ 3:53:38 PM

@kaufdaddy21,
I bought my daughter a "Speak & spell" when they first came out.

And I swear, Satan never came out and said a word to us, even once.

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Deadman
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 6:07:06 PM
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Video Games are the Devil!!!

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Crabba
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 6:39:51 PM
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Well said Ben! I agree 100%.

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Doomsquirrel
Thursday, January 07, 2010 @ 7:34:51 PM
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ok, i'm a gamer and a much older brother/stand-in parent, which IMO sets me on both sides of the line, what i have to say is this: the sickly pallor, that's just from lack of sunlight, most gamers play at night or use artifial light (lightbulbs, for the stupids out there).
also, let me reiterate what Ben said, pay attention to the ratings, but don't always write it off as preverbial porn if its higher than Teen, it may be mature for the use of drugs and alcohol, turn the box around and see why its rated T or M or what have you.
and if your kid is playing a game for TOO long, if they are on a 360, set the family settings, if its any other console, put in the living room, the kid will have to leave there sometime.
also, don't go writing off games as the work of Satan, i mean, look at what they sed about Heavy Metal, and look at it now, stronger and livelier than ever, don't be a bible thumper, you'll just be written off as crazy

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Ricochet
Friday, January 08, 2010 @ 1:38:36 AM
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Books were created by Satan, the printer was created by Satan, the Paintbrush was created by Satan, the Radio was created by Satan, the T.V. was created by Satan.

Now video games are created by Satan.

Now kids, what have we learned here today?

Answer: Technology evolves, yet human perception has not.

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