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Ron Jeremy: Games A "Worse Influnce" Than Pornography

Warning: the subject is controversial enough. This will not result in a war in the Comments section. Consider this a heads-up, people.

As you all know, there are plenty of video game haters out there, regardless of the advancements the industry has made in the past three decades. And not surprisingly, there are plenty of anti-pornography activists as well. So what happens when a member of the latter group comes together with legendary pornstar Ron Jeremy at this year's Consumer Electronics Show? Well, it didn't come down to fisticuffs but you had to expect that a few barbs and jabs would be tossed into the discussion. Jeremy was speaking about pornography in the age of the Internet and Crag Gross, an anti-porn activist, went at each other in "The Great Porn Debate" that didn't really feature the fireworks everyone anticipated. You can check out some of the highlights but obviously, there's one comment from Jeremy that's going to get on a gamer's nerves:

"We don't want kids to watch porn. Though if they do, there are far worse influences out there — like video games. "[Studies have] found that violent video games are much bigger a negative influence on kids."

Gross countered that while porn may not be catering to a younger demographic, the Internet has almost made this a moot point, anyway. His quote - which is great, in my opinion - says that "what we used to have to work hard to find, you now have to work hard to avoid." Jeremy quickly blamed the parents, saying they had "better start to learn the Internet." Obviously, this is an argument that could go on until the end of time and few will emerge unscathed if they really dive right in. I don't feel like getting involved; please bear in mind that I interviewed a pornstar on this site, so it would be somewhat hypocritical to fully take one side of the issue. After all, Mia was one of the more pleasant interviews I can remember, and I've done a lot in my time. However, I will say this:

I know a lot of people who grew up with video games since the age of three or four. ...I do not even want to meet the person who grew up with porn since that age. No, thank you.

1/10/2010 9:56:28 PM Ben Dutka

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Comments (142 posts)

tes37
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:23:55 PM
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Video games take precedence over porn any day. Ron Jeremy probably thinks a movie like One Eyed Monster is better than a video game.
In his field brains aren't required. Anybody can do what he does without thinking about, but gaming requires thought.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:41:22 PM

I dunno man, sex can be a real puzzle! I guess if I had to choose which was more detrimental, Kingdom Hearts or The One-Eyed monster, I'd have to go with Kingdom Hearts. I'm DRIPPING with sarcasm.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:59:00 PM

Oh god... My use of the word puzzle under these circumstances has made my brain imagine a sexual scene involving professor Layton! Aaauuuggghhh! <--Flapjack Scream

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donfelipe
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:00:27 PM

Ron Jeremy is actually a pretty smart guy. He has a Masters is Special Education. What is your Masters in?

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tes37
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:59:28 PM

I have a Master's in bullsh*tting.

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Cholo Gamer
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:37:30 PM
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Sure...

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Riku994
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:20:04 PM

^ I see what you did thar...

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SnipeySnake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:25:51 PM

Lol...

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Banky A
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:37:06 PM

The ass?

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geovanwitdakick
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:38:02 PM
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tell you what, I'd rather have Ron Jeremy's job than play any game out yet. (I include "out yet" solely because of Heavy Rain).

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mastiffchild
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 @ 7:48:52 PM

Then give it a go. You don't even NEED to be the size of old ronnie J(who it strikes me as odd ihe should dislike games seeing as he based his whole "look" around Mario)to make it in the porn world-you just need to be able to keep your wood in front of a camera crew and a bunch of girls well used to accommodating some of the biggest members around in every orafice.

Seriously, any of the companies will give you and audition but don't wish too hard or you might just find yourself on set and all the fluffing in the world won't help you unless you were born for porn. It's one of the most difficult things in the world to be able to perform on demand with a woman you could well hate, that you know has seen many, many bigger and mklre experienced dicks than your's before and in fromnt of a full crew who are just waiting for the new guy to , erm, deflate in front of them for a good giggle.

I might not like a lot of porn myself and actually find Mr Jeremy disgusting on many levels but I have to admit that there's no way I could do his job even if I tried! Not that I'm against porn(there's way too much wailing about something that prolly reduces rape figures by oproviding an outlet for all that pent up tension if anything, imo)-it just isn't my bag-even if Born Erect is one of the funniest films ever created.Not for any good reason but it just is.

Anyway, I doubt porn is either better or worse for people than games. I don't really thinkl he thought this through, though, unless he was just after some more press. He's one seriously ugly bloke though, isn't he? Anyway, I'd watch myself if I qwas proclaiming a desire to be a porn star-as the chance is there for anyone with a penis to emulate Ron's career path.

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therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:39:07 PM
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Porn... in comparison to games? Really? I mean... really? Im starting to lose faith in my own sanity T^T can we really look at this as an argument in ANY sense? Ron Jeremy tapes women having scripted permiscuous sexual encounters and I play Rachet and Clank... no Ron... no there is no way gaming is worse, as bad as, or even comparable to pornography even when looking at how each would influence children over a lifetime...

Yeah... I went there lol

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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:51:41 PM

***Best paragraph i have read all day!***

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Sol
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 10:20:16 AM

My response had the same concept... though it was just one word in the form of a question, and overly drawn out...

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:40:01 PM
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I think ol Ron is just behind the times. I hardly see how this could turn into one of those massive wars like we have on politics now and then.

I think games are probably not "worse" since well, anyone knows whether you are the goofy Mario or the slutty Bayonetta, you are just a graphic. If a kid thinks what Germans and Japanese people do in pornography is normal they might not wind up okay ;)

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Sunni_Boi
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:41:19 PM
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Well When I Was Younger I Sneaked Around Watching Pornos, But Played Games Out In The Open, Sooooooo Im Pretty Sure That Is For The Dudes When They Was Young. So Tell Me Which One Is Worse RON?

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laxpro2001
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:58:30 PM

lol, but what's with all the caps? Please don't be one of those people. That's one of my biggest pet peeves on any forum.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:00:33 PM

Let's not do this again. Don't judge him, he's just doin his thaaang!

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laxpro2001
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:02:01 PM

I'm not judging I just made a simple request... unless that was a response to his comment?

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Kowhoho
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:04:05 PM

Nope talking to you lax. This subject was already heavily argued in a different Comments. I just didn't want to see it happen again. Plus the judging thing was a reference to Family guy and the greasy blind man (I think).

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Jawknee
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:57:15 AM

Ha

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Sunni_Boi
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 9:17:05 AM

Ha you my boi kowhoho, but i guess ill chillout with the caps at the beginning of every word since its bothering some people for a lil bit but it shall return!!!

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therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:41:53 PM
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Ahem... :whispers to CHOLO GAMER: Who's the chicha in the avatar photo?

Totally doesn't invalidate my point... she's just hot is all ^_^

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:47:11 PM

(he keeps sayin' it's his wife, I'm not sure in which dimension though.)

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St_Jimmy
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:52:49 PM

The only demention he knows......never mind, thats not for this site.

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Cholo Gamer
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:12:23 PM

She's my wife why? I don't really care if people don't believe me as long as me and my girl are happy Im good.

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Sir Shak
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:31:12 AM

Does your wife have a name or has she not told you yet ?

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OtisFeelgood
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 7:26:41 AM

It's Vida Guerra and I doubt she's his wife.

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coverton341
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 11:45:48 AM

Damn Otis, did you have to go out and name her so that everyone knows he's living a fantasy life? Some people need to have a dream and you just crushed his. Now suicide is probably his only option left. You're a bad man. It must be from all the video games you play...maybe if you just started watching more porn you could level out.

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bigrailer19
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:47:55 PM

I know if Vida was my wife, i wouldnt share her with you guys! ;)

Nope not even a picture of her as my avatar!



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OtisFeelgood
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 9:25:26 PM

@coverton

My bad =(

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Fane1024
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 @ 1:09:22 AM

...he also made comments about how his parents can still control his behavior, so I'm guessing he's still a minor and not married to anyone, much less a glamour model.

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geovanwitdakick
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:46:46 PM
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sorry to interrupt, but that is the lovely Vida Guerra :). Smoking isn't she?

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MadKatBebop
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:54:37 PM

Damn straight!.

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Superman915
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:47:37 PM
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Didn't Ron JEremy just do a commercial for FairyTale fights?

Oh and the girl in Cholo's avatar is Vida Guerra.



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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:49:32 PM
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I was exposed to porn properly, first nude scenes on skinemax and horror flicks, then softcore, then hardcore, then internet.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:56:22 PM

Lol @ pron. A part of every boys journey in one way or another.

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SnipeySnake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:30:58 PM

I went your way but backwards. (JK)

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:18:21 AM

We didn't have the internet back in the day, lol.

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backatcha00
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 6:48:05 AM

You forgot saggy native boobs as seen in National Geographic circa third grade.

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Highlander
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 11:08:46 AM

@backatcha

Also forgot the Sears catalog underwear section. Tough these days it's the Victoria Secrets brochure that comes through the mail...

Nothing like trying to figure out whether you can see anything in those catalogs when you're 10....

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:12:43 PM

lol, Victoria's Secret, and that other one, I forget the name.

And If I was a billionaire I'd buy those poor native women a boob lift.

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coverton341
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:25:55 PM

Fredrick's of Hollywood. Took me a minute to remember the name but I did it.

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BikerSaint
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:52:12 PM
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This statement was made by the #1 "worst influence" in the porn's own industry!

I still can't understand why this fat greasy-haired pencil-dick tub of lard was even got 1 testicle through the porn doorway.

Hell, even the fluffer's should have just took one look at him, and had enough sense to bounce that roly-poly fur-butt of his, right back into the gutter, where it actually belongs!!!!

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ExhumeART
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:54:27 PM

I take it you've never seen one of Ron's films? I admit, he's a fat creep, but why he's in the business? It should be obvious.

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LowKey
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:11:41 AM

Ron wasn't always fat. Greasy and creepy.. well hes always been that way. Still Ron Jeremy is my hero.

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Geobaldi
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:20:34 AM

Yeah when he started he was skinny like everybody else. Getting older sucks.

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therabbitkinge
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 10:58:17 PM
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Oh I remember Vida! What magazine was it that put her on the map? I always forget her face cause im always stuck on her... well her more prominent qualities ^_^
(FYI she isn't in porn though she should be in gaming lol)

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Superman915
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:01:38 PM

FHM.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:06:08 PM
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Gaming: it seems so wrong, but it feels so right.

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BikerSaint
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:34:30 PM

To those who replied to my earlier post on RJ,

Yeah I've seen his early stuff, and the only difference I see now is that he was just a much skinnier scumbag back then.

But that's just my opinion.

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NoSmokingBandit
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:16:26 PM
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http://www.switched.com/2009/01/26/school-shootings-not-caused-by-violent-games-study-says/

http://www.qj.net/psp/news/study-violent-games-dont-alter-normal-kids.html

http://news.illinois.edu/NEWS/05/0809videogames.html

Ron Jeremy needs to read some articles before he starts talking out of his ass about something he knows nothing about.

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Phoelix
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:56:34 AM

Wow nice job.

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BigBoss4ever
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:20:30 PM
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i think i need both. haha

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556pineapple
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:21:08 PM
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I don't take this comment too seriously, because I would have to say Mr. Jeremy is a little biased.

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Kowhoho
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:28:30 PM

Then again so are we, right? But were still right about this! XP

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556pineapple
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:38:08 PM

Yeah, true. I didn't think about it that way. But his bias is way stronger than ours I'm sure. And yeah, we're right.

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SnipeySnake
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:28:09 PM
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That's why we have this thing called ESRB ratings...

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G-WiZ199
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:34:35 PM
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Ok, Ron. A gamer taking down colossi in SotC is worse then the profession you are in? This coming from the man who orally took down his own colossus. There isn't enough money in this lifetime or the next that would make me even attempt such an act.

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___________
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:35:00 PM
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i got to say i can kind of see where there coming from.
i was watching this documentary today about kids behaviors after playing games and 99% of the kids in there would not get off.
if there parents were to turn the system off they would chuck a spaz.
check utube the video of the kid wbo had his WoW acount canceled by his mom.
i think these people are looking at these cases and are automatically assuming that all kids who play games are like that.
i played games, i played duke nukem 3D when i was 8, been watching R movies since i was able to walk.
you dont see me shooting up high schools.
all my family members 3 girls aged 12, 16 and 8 play games, boys aged from 7-20 play games and they are the nicest most polite well behaved kids you will ever see.
i remember my mate telling me about this kid in the US who killed his parents, than told the cops "its ok they will respawn at the next checkpoint"
now thats a serious worry!
thats the problem, there seeing these select few who do not have strict parents and are assuming well 5% are like that so that means 100% of them will be like that.
parents need to wake the fu** up and take responsibility!
thats the problem you can be a grade A moron who has killed a thousand people and be a parent.
i think you should have to go for a test, a course just like when your going for your drivers license.
pass that, than you can stick it to your wife and have kids, but dont pass it.
sorry than its condoms for you sir.
and re tests every 5 years so you better keep your skills straight.

my ex boss has 1 7 Yo boy and a 10 Yo girl, he leaves them home alone every night and goes out clubbing.
from 5PM to around 3 AM there alone by themselves.
its a miracle they have not burned down the house yet!
wheres child services when you need them?

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johnld
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:13:36 AM

well, i think its more of a difference of kids today and back then. When i was young, i had to work(i dont really mean work but stuff like chores and good grades) to get what i want. Unlike todays kids who act like or they have the right to be given everything they wanted or else. They expect everything to be handed to them. Of course this statement is just a generalization as i know of some decent kids.

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LowKey
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:58:42 AM

Thats exactly right John, the crap your talking aboot LINE, people taking tests to be a parent is stupid. Why don't we just go back to USA circa 1930's and start sterilizing every child who has bad grades, or every member of a family because other members of that family has been in jail or something.

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___________
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 6:44:06 AM

its not the kids its the parents.
we use to have some family friends back when i was like 10, every year we would go on holidays together, and i went to Italian school with their daughter.
there son and daughter are spoilt little sh*ts.
why?
because daddy is a rich mother %$#@#@ and will buy both of them anything they want.
i remember one day the daughter was playing on her gameboy color and her brother wanted to play and she said ok let me finish this than you can have it.
so he screamed no, snatched it off her and pegged it against the wall.
and his parents did absolutely jack sh*t!
i would not even think let alone ever do that, not only because it wrong, slack ect but my father would go bananas on me.
id be the last thing id ever do thats for sure.
when i was at school all my mates were scared to come over because of my father, everyone was scared of him.
there not the only ones either, as i said my ex boss is out every night and both his kids are little sh*ts too because there parents do not discipline them.
you treat a kid, like a kid, give him chores, reward them from time to time, lay down some rules and punish them when they do something wrong than you will end up with a well behaved kid.
you let them do whatever they want, buy them anything and never punish them than of course there going to turn into little sh*ts.
all my family, everyone i know thats well behaved is so because there parents would give them living hell if they stepped out of line.
my cuz got grounded for 3 months no TV no music no games no leaving the house besides school for 3 months just because he got a F on his last math test.
its not the kid expecting anything, its because of the parent.
humans will do anything they get away with, you give one a bone hes going to ask for 2, than 3, than 4 and so on.
you give him one and stick to one for a while than he will not push his luck and appreciate the one he has.

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WorldEndsWithMe
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:37:21 PM
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Porn made it so I can't get off without watching women with freakish genitalia getting it on with butt plugs, old men, donkeys, and at least 3 midgets. True story ;)

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BikerSaint
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:44:36 PM

World....
What, no sheep humping...er....
I mean herding?????LOL

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Highlander
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 11:11:16 AM

::blinks::
Eeep!

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Scarecrow
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:38:05 PM
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scapegoating...

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LegendaryWolfeh
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:39:18 PM
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The biggest controversy I see here is Ron Jeremy being the King of porn, pfft. No way, I'm totally the king of porn. =)

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johnld
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:17:14 AM

I think he got you beat by a little. Unless im wrong about you, you only watch porn. Ron Jeremy is in some and watches porn,lol.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:43:54 AM

As far as you know I only watch porn ;) LOL

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johnld
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 4:51:45 PM

Thats the thing about the internet, anyone can be a porn star. Hell, why do you thing were talking about Ron Jeremy concerning porn?

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BikerSaint
Sunday, January 10, 2010 @ 11:47:39 PM
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ron's no f*cking King of anything.....
but he is it's court jester!

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leatherface
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:03:24 AM
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he's just mad cause he didn't come up with the name Solid Snake.

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BikerSaint
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:04:02 PM

Leatherface,
LOL, best comment so far!!!!

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fluffer nutter
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:26:45 AM
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I feel that games can be worse if the person is very impressionable and does not have the proper figures around to teach the ways of life and ensure that this person is nurtured, cultured and most of all, educated. Now, please understand that statement before you go attacking me because if you really do understand it, you won't be arguing against me.

Now, the same can be said about porn under the very same circumstances. What does that tell us? Guardianship. Parenting. Teaching. Without these, kids will never learn how to use the "tools" of life. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it because it's true. Don't go blaming the mediums. Blame those that are involved directly with upbringing our youth.

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WolfCrimson
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:34:22 AM

Can we blame both? After all, they both contribute to the problem.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:25:40 AM

No. There is no reason to blame the medium. It's just content. Nothing specific about the content tells one to do what is presented before them.

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WolfCrimson
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:53:30 AM

So we should blame the people who take drugs, but not the drug dealers or the drugs themselves? What a weird way to look at it.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 4:47:56 AM

A person is told about the possible bad side effects to ingesting something. They disregard this information and ingest the item, have an adverse effect and possibly die. Now, you're going to tell me that this person should not be held accountable for his or her actions? Even after they were warned? Responsibility is the lesson of the day, kids.

I apologize for following you off-topic but it did earn a reply.

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WolfCrimson
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 6:11:40 AM

Why not remove it from his possession? Get rid of the bad thing once and for all, no good's gonna come from it anyway. It's like cigarettes: "Smoking causes lung cancer yadda yadda yadda". Then why not ban it? I know it's not simple, they have huge influence and whatnot, but that's no reason to look the other way and blame it only on the person who smokes. They all contributed to the problem.

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Shams
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:16:46 PM

Legal ramifications for drug trafficing is much harsher than drug use itself.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:02:16 PM

Why would I remove something from another person's hands when they went and purchased the items? Banning substances? That makes things worse. Giving people choices, along with knowing the consequences, is the best avenue. If they want to try something, and they understand the possible effects, let them do it. They have no right to go after and sue or attack someone if they have already been disclosed the information of what can happen. Stop trying to strangle people into what you want them to do.

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WolfCrimson
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:35:50 PM

I'm not strangling anybody into anything, just discussing what is the best course of action. Not that we can do anything about it anyway, just a discussion.
About removing something from a person's hands, that's my way of saying "Don't make it easily available." If something is harmful to begin with, why make it easily available? If people are gonna do it anyway one way (allowed, but disclaimer attached) or the other (disallowed, banned)? I'm just saying this from a theoretical point-of-view.

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WolfCrimson
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 11:20:27 PM

Of course molestation is sicker than self-fellatio. I never said it wasn't. Heck I even explained what I meant. I know I didn't write down in the first post, but there you have it.

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Sir Shak
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:39:19 AM
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I wouldn't take the word of a person whose biggest achievement is self-fellatio very seriously . Tell you what , Ron . Do yourself a favour and ..... oh wait , you already did .

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WolfCrimson
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:41:34 AM

That... has got to be the sickest thing anyone can do.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 4:48:51 AM

Molestation would rank higher on the "sickest things anyone can do" list, in my book.

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WolfCrimson
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 6:14:22 AM

Willingly and with all involved parties' consent? You know, approved by law.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:04:22 PM

I didn't infer to the legalities of the issue but I guess you missed that. You seem to think that molestation is better than self fellatio. Shall we thank someone for this?

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WolfCrimson
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:28:32 PM

I never said molestation is better than self-fellatio, what I'm implying is that it's the sickest thing one can do without breaking the law. Now if you can bring to the table something you think is worse, then go ahead, but keep crimes out. I can think up of crimes much worse and sicker than molestation.

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fluffer nutter
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 5:25:29 PM

I didn't see any implication up there. I did see the following statement, though. "That... has got to be the sickest thing anyone can do." Sounds like you've made your decision. I will say, again, that molestation ranks higher. The only people that may disagree are clowns.

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Alienange
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:07:43 AM
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What the hell are these two imbeciles doing at the CES?

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johnld
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:19:06 AM

new sextoy? or 3D porn perhaps? I know i saw a few 3D games there, You'll know Ron Jeremy would want a piece of that.

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LegendaryWolfeh
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:11:19 AM

3D porn isn't new =P I know

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Fane1024
Saturday, January 16, 2010 @ 6:34:18 PM

CES is always held in Vegas at roughly the same time as the porn convention there.

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swapnilgyani
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:10:47 AM
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Even if we assume that video games have "worst influence", so what? What does that make porn? A rehabilitation activity for children traumatized, tortured and mutilated by the "satanic" video games?

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 @ 3:38:46 AM

Obviously, Jeremy thinks so xD
More attention for him!

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WorldEndsWithMe
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:26:30 AM
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I suppose comparing notes would take too much research, but I'd bet my PS3 more people in the porn industry commit suicide than in the gaming industry.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:41:35 AM

They have more STD's too.

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BikerSaint
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:48:39 PM

World,
Hmmm I think you're right.
And if I can remember correctly, that fallen beauty, Savannah, was one of them that cums to mind.

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Jawknee
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:41:03 AM
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Riiiiiiiiiiiight...this coming from a guy who's probably had more crabs then Long John Sliver.

I played video games and turned out to be a responsible, well educated and productive male who's faithful to my wife. He turned into a pig who gets paid to objectify woman.

Sure Ron. Sure.

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Oxvial
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:49:16 AM
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Ron Jeremy without the hot girls of his porn videos is just a living lol.

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sunspider13
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:29:36 AM
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Meh...

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fooosie
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:35:50 AM
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Ron is just mad because there wasnt a Commodore64 under the tree. It was the Christmas that changed porn forever

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Snaaaake
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:52:59 AM
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Video game is the best damn thing ever to come to us and I dare someone to argue with me.

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IronFace2
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 7:29:32 AM

Agreed
Ron's the worst influnce... As*pirate

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Kangasfwa
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:02:32 AM
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I think Ron Jeremy is implying that the encouragement of rebelling against lawful authority (GTA/GTA-clones) is worse than objectifying women.

What bullsh**.

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dante_zero
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:08:07 AM
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bit hypocritical considering Ron Jeremy advertises video games. did anyone see the adverts for fairy tale fights amongst others?

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sobleck
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 4:29:39 AM
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You know what, I think Ron just came prepared for that argument and probably picked up a couple of reports that use limited samples of maybe a few thousand people and found one that says violent games is more likely to lead to acts of violence by gamers in reality while porn is more likely to lead to masturbation, and guys being shut down whena asking girlfriends for sex or somwthing like that.

I mean in a sample questionaire are you more likely to answer

"When you play an action or violently orientated video game do you get agitated or excited based on the results of your efforts- if yes please explain"

or

"When you watch pornography day and night do you feel like sexuaally assaulting someone, or engaging in promiscuous activity?"

If anyone did take a questionnaire about pornography and actually happened to have these feelings, i doubt they'd be stupid, or bold enough to say yes.

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www
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 5:06:16 AM
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" I know a lot of people who grew up with video games since the age of three or four. ...I do not even want to meet the person who grew up with porn since that age. No, thank you."

That sums everything up Ben.



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Shams
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 1:17:25 PM

Agreed.

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tridon
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 5:08:16 AM
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What about violent porn?

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therabbitkinge
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 6:15:44 AM
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What about it?

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therabbitkinge
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 6:17:56 AM
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I think its safe to say noone touching that with a "39 1/2 ft" pole.

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BikerSaint
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:57:38 PM

Hey therabbitkinge,
It's not safe to say it, cause AT&T already said it....

In fact, in their commericals, they used to brag about their "big poles".

In case you don't remember it....

"Reach out & touch someone"!!! LOL

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THE NTMIDTR
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 7:20:53 AM
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Hilarious! Seems the hedgehog (not Sonic) took the good old whipping stick argument of course...

Also, porn on the internet is just too easy to find.... how do you teach kids not to accidentally come across it? He apparently went on to say us parents "better start to learn the Internet." What an idiot! LOL That is the other whipping stick they like to use... like we all are clueless.

I'll say it again... HILARIOUS! I don't take Ron seriously, I don't think he is qualified to be in that conversation, and I don't think he expects anything more than to push buttons.

I still believe having an .xxx domain would help to keep stuff from kids... it's not like not having it is working? Wouldn't it stop all but deliberate attempts to find porn?

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JackC8
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 7:54:19 AM
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A couple of loudmouths yakkin' at each other in an event staged to draw a bit more attention to the Consumer Electronics Show. Gives me a perfect reason to use the word "meh".

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NeoHumpty
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 8:50:30 AM
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It should be mentioned that both forms of entertainment fall on the parents to keep out of their kid's hands.

On that note, I'd like to mention that we are blessed with 2 hands. I can hold my controller in one and.....well, you get the point. Can't they all just get along?

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maxpontiac
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 10:51:54 AM
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I know a lot of people who grew up with video games since the age of three or four. ...I do not even want to meet the person who grew up with porn since that age. No, thank you.

What more is there to say? After what Ben wrote, nothing comes to mind..

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Highlander
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 12:15:05 PM
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Ben nailed it as always.

I do have a couple of thoughts, and I would love to hear what others think.

My thoughts are not so much regarding the definition of 'porn', but wondering what kind of material Ron Jeremy is talking about when he says porn. Is he referring to solo nude shots ore the rather more common gynecological close ups that producers of adult entertainment think people enjoy? Is he referring to hardcore images, is he referring to hardcore video/movie action? Is he referring to hardcore material involving fetishes? Seriously, I ask be cause to me there is a world of difference between viewing nude and topless pictures and viewing a series of hardcore images or video. Never mind stuff that involves more than one person and actual sex.

I'm just saying that there is such a wide spectrum of content. It goes all the way from micro bikini and topless pictures all the way to sex videos with multiple participants, sex toys and other devices and beyond.

To me you can't say one thing is worse than the other unless you can quantify what you're talking about. Depending on your definition of 'porn', there are oil paintings and sculpture by the old masters that qualify. Of course I would say that anyone who considers such works of art to be 'porn' has a rally narrow mind. However the point is that there is a huge range of material that can be labeled in this way.

Of course the same is true of video games. You can look at the range of games from material like Mario all the way to gore splattered games like Doom IV, Left 4 Dead, Unreal Tournament, Manhunt 2, and so on. If Ron wants to compare worst case against worst case there are innumerable examples of so called adult entertainment that are outright offensive to any reasonable human being. For every uber-violent/gorey video game he cares to point to, I can point to dozens of utterly despicable videos made by his industry.

You have to be careful with statements comparing one to the other. Personally I think that topless or nude images (minus the gynecological close ups) are far less likely to cause a problem for anyone than playing virtually any of the M rated games is.

I think that the kind of statement that Ron Jeremy made cannot be taken at face value. You need to carefully define what kinds of game you're talking about and what adult material you're comparing against.

</JustMyTwoCents mode>

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Minishmaru
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:01:44 PM
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I dunno unless porn was invented by satan I think video games are still a worse influence...I only say that cuz the lady from a previous entry :-P I love both porn and games

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Doosharm
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 2:37:18 PM
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I think hands down video games are a worse influence.

I mean, my brother and I used to fight over and about video games all the time. Pretty much the only time I ever display a temper is when I'm getting frustrated with a video game. Come on, you people have never punched or thrown a controller, yelled at the TV, gotten into a fight with a sibling because they just kept tripping you in Street Fighter and won the match? I know I have done all of the above.

Porn on the other hand has never made me angry or violent, I have never been inappropriate with a woman, and the thought of Rape is as sickening to me as it is to anyone else. I mean, they way I see it, if porn is bad, so is sex. And for the life of me I just can't see sex as being bad.

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Shams
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:30:45 PM

"Porn" entails sexual activity, but sex does not necessarily entail "porn".

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Highlander
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:41:18 PM

"Porn" entails sexual activity, but sex does not necessarily entail "porn".

Quoted
For
Truth

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WolfCrimson
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:52:00 PM

err... Doosharm, I don't think you need to get that angry with v-games. I don't think I've ever done that in a video-game. Heck, once I got Sephiroth in KH2 down to 1/4 of his last health bar, I tried to heal, slipped up, and got killed. Didn't get mad at all. Just tried again.

And sex is not bad at all. Sex is a human need. That's right, a NEED, just like food (although not as frequent :P ).

Porn, however, causes sexual arousal without providing an outlet (unless you count masturbating, but that has been proven to be harmful, I remember reading a study about this).

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Highlander
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 4:18:17 PM

@Wolfcrimson

Wasn't that the so called "Harry Palms" study? ;)

I've never heard of any accredited study, medical or psychological that has suggested that masturbation is harmful.

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Doosharm
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 4:32:29 PM

"Porn" entails sexual activity, but sex does not necessarily entail "porn".

Indeed you're right. And I left myself open to that with my generalization of "if porn is bad so is sex."


But my point is that the average, well adjusted person is more likely to be negatively affected by the average video game (say ACII) than the average porn video (two consensual adults engaging in vaginal intercourse).

Video games are an intrinsically emotional experience. In some cases we'll feel joy (beating a game), others sadness (FFVII), and others frustration (fighting games with your brother). When emotions run high people can behave erratically. When people behave erratically, trouble is bound to follow.

Porn on the other hand is meant to elicit a physical response, not an emotional one. Its unlikely that the act of watching porn would cause emotions to run high or erratic behavior. And for many, porn along with masturbation is just a substitute for sex. So, in that way, I don't see it being any worse than just having sex. And furthermore, after having such a "release" people tend to be far more relaxed and mellow, which is certainly not always the case with video games.

I'll certainly agree that the worst porn in existence is FAR, FAR worse than the worst video game. But for the average person who doesn't have any mental issues, playing the average video game is more likely to cause a negative effect or emotion than watching the average porn movie.

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Minishmaru
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 5:05:00 PM

I dunno I hear a lot of the things porn stars do on film vs their real life partners is a lot different. A lot of people think that whatever the people in porn do is the norm. I don't believe girls enjoy "money shots" some probably but not all lmao...I never thought I'd have a chance to say that.

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WolfCrimson
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 11:22:12 PM

@Highlander:
I don't remember the name of it, actually. But I tried looking for it again on PubMed and got this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19453891?itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=13

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Highlander
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 @ 10:38:01 PM

@WolfCrimson

A few articles for you...

This first is a link to a collection of material apparently collected by a premed student;

Ooops forgot the link..

http://prep4md.blogspot.com/2009/01/is-masturbation-bad-for-you.html

The second is a link from the University of Pennsylvania (as quoted by the med student who collected the previous set of articles...

http://www.vpul.upenn.edu/ohe/library/Sexhealth/articles/masturbating.htm

Here's what the Mayo clinic has to say, note, no warnings against the practice...

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/search/search

WebMD was similarly devoid of dire consequences, the worst I could find was that over frequent use of the toy wore it out in the short term - if yo see what I mean.

Look, it's not that I am advocating frequent self pleasure, I'm just saying that it's not harmful, and the idea that it is is a myth put about by the clergy. Frankly, had members of certain clergy relieved themselves they may have left the young boys and girls in their congregations alone.

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Banky A
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 3:38:20 PM
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Sonofabit*h...
Porn is annoying these days.

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Gordo
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 5:27:58 PM
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Yes, sex has a lot to answer for.

Reminds me of something that happened to a friends father:

He got struck off the register for having sex with a patient.

That was a shame because he was a wonderful vet.

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PSNclaw18
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 5:37:07 PM
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I think he can get away with saying that is because a lot more "incidents" have happened with the excuse of "playing 'that' game made me do it".

You don't ever hear somebody commit murder from watching porn though.

(i know he didn't say that directly, but it's probably what he was thinking when he says "influence")

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Gone
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 5:49:03 PM
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Video games are good clean fun that you won't have to be embarrassed about if your mom walked in on you (except for God of War sex scenes "what is that lady doing on the candle", nothing mom, she is just taking a ride).

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therabbitkinge
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 6:29:14 PM
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@BikerSaint- hah, nice ^_^

(reply button doesn't work for me)

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dveisalive
Monday, January 11, 2010 @ 9:11:58 PM
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Actually both are bad for you. Porn is corruption that promotes premarital sex etc... and you dont exercise nothing but your fingers playing PS3 unless you have a Wii that most of you other PS3 gamers don't have. Kids and adults kill people over video games but not porn. I game but i get a good 30-1hour exercise a day. But me being a grown man I say FTW when you bring porn and games together lol XD

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mastiffchild
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 @ 7:55:27 PM

People don't ever kill each other over porn? Are you kidding me? Some of the shadiest people in the world run the porn industry in countries where it's not at all legal! The same folk who traffic girls and children from country to country hhave been involved in the underground porn industry for decades leaving a trail of dead business partners and associates! not to mention the cost in ruined young girls who, not unusually, end up suicidal, desperate or overdosing on drugs after slipping into prostitution and addiction.

There's a definite human cost to the porn industry in many countriess I'm afraid that put the rare, but headline grabbing, "gaming" deaths into stark perspective. And how many people still die every year in the name of whichever God they pray to? Honestly, there are few things less dangerous thaan being a gamer! More kids will dioe at school this year than will die because of gaming! So, we're banning religion, education and, while we're at it, most forms of transport, yes? And what of all those people that die in hospital? They have to go too!

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Gamer Girl Gemo
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 @ 3:35:28 AM
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Video games worse than porn? Huh... Excuse us gamers while we advert our eyes and move onto board games... What? You say they're worse than porn too? Oh God...
Find some real reasons to slander video games Jeremy. That's just ludicrous.

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just2skillf00l
Tuesday, January 12, 2010 @ 9:48:20 PM
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Can someone inject a sensible syringe into this man's thick skull. So using a controller to manipulate a virtual character to perform a certain task (not sexually intense) is worse than eye******* a visual representation (in the form of pixels) (and maybe masturbating) of real (or fictional characters if that's your thing) people. Of course it is! Now let's move on to another ridiculous non-biased and heavily evidenced argument and say that politics are indeed dangerous. Wait...JFK assassination, and Lincoln murder, yeah...nevermind.

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Jed
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 12:17:49 AM
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I dont agree. You are much more likely to put an eye out while watching porn.

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Underdog15
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 1:33:51 PM
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It's a worse influence, huh? Well, he certainly doesn't try to say porn isn't a bad influence. Kind of a creep, don't'cha think?

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MrAnonymity
Thursday, January 14, 2010 @ 5:40:28 PM
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The best part of this whole article? The comments. Why? Because someone actually came in here, told a lie, got disproved, and never posted another comment. That is just golden. And as far as Gamin/Porn or the other way around... why bother comparing? Why compare gaming to anything? Maybe reading... or doing yoga... What Jeremy said was simply unnecessary and he was likely just grasping at threads to justify his argument. If that were the case, gaming is going to catch crap around many corners.

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